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Percentages of fat? Any thoughts?

What do you guys think about how many polyunsaturated, monounsaturated and saturated fats should be in your diet? For example, my average fat intake is broken down to be about 39% saturated fats, 39 % monounsaturated, and 22% polyunsaturated fats. Does this sound about right or are the percentages off?

The dietician I saw was concerned about my fat intake (about 18%-20% of my caloric intake) but if I have much more I get sick with gallbladder pains. So she said to just keep doing what I'm doing until after my surgery, then slowly add more fats. I'm curious if this seems like an extremely low fat diet, and if it could be effecting my energy levels, but I don't know what else to do about it except push for a gallbladder attack.

Any thoughts?
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That seems like a high amount of saturated fats.  Saturated fats are those that come, mostly, from animal products and are not considered "healthy" fats.  Monounsaturated fats are healthiest, with polyunsaturated fats are next best, with saturated fats bringing up the rear.

Saturated fats tend to raise cholesterol levels, so is best limited.  Common sources of saturated fats are butter, lard, meat fats, solid shortening, palm oil, coconut oil.  

Adding more monounsaturated fats from foods such as avocados, olive oil, etc should cause less trouble for your gall bladder.  Polyunsaturated fats come from vegetable oils, such as soybean (don't use this, since you have thyroid issues), corn, sesame, safflower.  It also comes from  fatty fish such as salmon, mackerel, herring and trout, as well as some nuts.

Studies show that mono and poly unsaturated fats can help guard against heart attack and other health issues, while saturated fats actually contribute to them, since they raise cholesterol levels.

You might want to discuss this with your dietician again.

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That seems like a high amount of saturated fats.  Saturated fats are those that come, mostly, from animal products and are not considered "healthy" fats.  Monounsaturated fats are healthiest, with polyunsaturated fats are next best, with saturated fats bringing up the rear.

Saturated fats tend to raise cholesterol levels, so is best limited.  Common sources of saturated fats are butter, lard, meat fats, solid shortening, palm oil, coconut oil.  

Adding more monounsaturated fats from foods such as avocados, olive oil, etc should cause less trouble for your gall bladder.  Polyunsaturated fats come from vegetable oils, such as soybean (don't use this, since you have thyroid issues), corn, sesame, safflower.  It also comes from  fatty fish such as salmon, mackerel, herring and trout, as well as some nuts.

Studies show that mono and poly unsaturated fats can help guard against heart attack and other health issues, while saturated fats actually contribute to them, since they raise cholesterol levels.

You might want to discuss this with your dietician again.

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Yeah I'm a little confused with how high my saturated fats are. I cook with nothing but olive oil and keep it under 1 tsp /serve (otherwise I get sick and even with that I might still get sick), have chicken breast 1-2 a week 80g or less, 90-100g white fish/prawns 2-3 times a week, and 100-130g kangaroo for the rest of the week. 99% of the foods I cooked are baked, broiled or steamed. No dairy, never more than 1 tsp of margarine (canola oil based), no shortening, egg, or coconut. I also get sick with more than 80g of a oily fish like trout or salmon, 1 tbsp avocado, 1 tbsp low fat peanut butter, or half a dozen nuts- so I don't know what to do to try to raise my monounsaturated more.

Although I did have a bad week that had a love affair with dark chocolate. That would make sense. Might have to go back through it to see if that one week skewed my average.

The dietician basically told me not to bother coming back until after I get the gallbladder out because I'm so difficult. She said I could use some changes as far as fats and proteins go, but to try and change them would result in me getting sick. Still I don't like this waiting, my cholesterol was over 200 and I'm only 24, I want to do something about it. :/
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Ok my math was a little wrong- real numbers for total month are 30.2% saturated, 17.0% polyunsaturated, 30.5% monounsaturated. That doesn't add up to 100?? I'm confused. All well.

Ignoring my pms chocolate week, my percents were 27.8% saturated, 19.2 % polyunsaturated, 33.8% monounsaturated. Does that seem better?

And what is the other 20 percent? That can't be all transfats can it? I don't eat red meat, dairy or fried foods, how is that possible? Maybe the program I'm using is faulty
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Are the grams you listed above for just the amount of fat, or the total amount of the food you are eating?  In other words are you eating 80 grams of chicken or does your chicken have 80 grams of fat?

Part of the problem, it seems, is that you aren't assigning your foods to the right category of fats. The fish and nuts would go into the polyunsaturated or monounsaturated categories vs the saturated.  Not familiar with kangaroo meat, but I'd guess that to be in the category of saturated fats.

Unless you are eating a lot of processed foods, I doubt you are getting much in the line of transfats.

If you are eating a lot of fresh/frozen veggies, you shouldn't be getting that much fat, unless you are eating them with a lot of rich sauces, etc.  

Yes, you might want to take another look at the program you're using.  Have you tried MedHelp's Food Diary?
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80g it the total amount of chicken eaten, not it's fat.

Lol, no fear of processed foods or sauces. Anything in a package that is without eggs, red meat, and dairy isn't always low in fat or is freakishly expensive. And I think it's been over 2 years since I was able to eat takeaway without gallbladder problems.

Think I might have to try the medhelp diary, been putting it off because all my original recipes are added to the other one. All well.
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Maybe you just need to go back and make sure you have the fats categorized properly.  Just remember that meat products (meat, dairy, eggs, etc) will have the most saturated fats, while vegetable products will have the most mono and poly unsaturated fats. You can google them to find out, if in doubt.  

I'd also like to point out that by not eating red meat, dairy, eggs, etc you are missing the main foods that provide vitamin B12, so I do hope you are supplementing for that.

Didn't you say you have gall bladder surgery scheduled soon?  I had my gall bladder out in 2005 and haven't missed it for one second.......

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I think it might have been the site I was using. I used both of them yesterday to compare. The program I was using gave me 100 more calories and 10 more grams of fat then Medhelp. It's awesome for adding my own recipes, but I learned long ago that most of it's info for veggies are assuming they added salt and fat. (Neither of which I've ever been a fan of adding to foods.)

My gallbladder surgery- because it's socialized medicine- I'm just somewhere on a waiting list. Estimate 9 months to 12 months, unless I have another severe attack. (Which thank god I haven't had.) I'll get 10 day notice before operation, but besides that I have no idea when it'll come.

Kangaroo is really high in the B12 and iron. It's like red meat except it's less than 1 g of fat for 300g (10oz) of meat. So I think I'm covered, but I'll ask my dr if she thinks that's enough with my multivitamin.

Thanks for your help. It's also nice to hear from people who have had their gallbladder out without problems. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't terrified of surgery.
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You can add your own foods to the MedHelp diary, so they will be in there without fat or salt.  I think you can also add recipes, but I'd have to look at it again to make sure about that.  

I didn't realized you had to wait so long for a surgery.  My gall bladder was removed laproscopically and I only had 5 small incisions, each with a bandaid, when I left the hospital.  My surgery was done late one afternoon and I went home the next morning; if my surgery had been done on time (in the morning, as it was scheduled), I'd have gone home the same day.  I had almost no recovery time.  
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I asked medhelp improvements about recipes- nothing like I want yet.. but potential improvement.

The wait is insufferable; I've had gallstones and pains for almost 2 years! But it's nice to hear of people who had good, easy operations. My gp did tell me today that if I talk to the surgeon and tell him my overall symptoms have gotten much worse (which they definitely have) he would be able to put me up the waiting list. *Crossing fingers that it works*
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