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Advanced Lipo Dissolve in KS- NO RESULTS-IN FACT A GAIN INSTEAD

by butterflygrl, Jan 31, 2007 12:00AM
I have gone PAST my 6th treatment, which when I signed up they told me 6 treatments was all I'd need. I am now on my 8th treatment and 10 months later......I have gained inches - not lost.........and gained pounds also with this (15 lbs at least).
I have contacted them and noone seems to want to talk about this "Guarantee refund - money back". I even saw the "main" doctor there who also told me he saw no results either....just give me more shots.
I just want my money back...........10 freakin months is crazy.........AND FOR WHAT????????? NO DAMN RESULTS,IN FACT WEIGHT AND INCH GAIN INSTEAD.  THIS PLACE IS A BOGUS, THEY DONT BACK UP WHAT THEY PROMISE AT ALL.
I'm sorry, I'm only maybe 60 lbs overweight and 6 ft tall, I'm not a real heavy person- there is NO reason for this, this should have been easy! I was only 40 lbs over my normal weight when I began this program. I WISH I NEVER GOT SUCKERED INTO THIS BY ADVANCED LIPO DISSOLVE. And if they STILL wont help me...I will be calling FOX 4 PROBLEM SOLVERS for some REAL assistance and the pleasure of making sure all viewers know what they can expect from this place.
Funny that even some of their employees have told me behind closed doors that it hasnt worked for them and they have told me to get my money back. lol Now how does that look for the company.
WHAT A JOKE.....All I can say is DONT GET SUCKERED IN. If you can lose the money , then GO FOR IT, but EXPECT IF IT DOESNT WORK.....YOU WONT GET THAT GUARANTEED REFUND! thats the only thing you can count on getting.........NO REFUND!
Member Comments (159)

by myphotographer, Feb 01, 2007 12:00AM
Has anyone had good results and anymore bad results from lipodissolve- I am 5'0" 106lb I am just trying to lose some of the jiggly that is had to lose when I work out.
good & bad results I would love to hear them all.
Thanks!

by butterflygrl, Feb 01, 2007 12:00AM
To: myphotographer
Actually thats ALL I was trying to lose myself, that loseness left over from having a baby 12 years ago. They said no problem, it would get rid of it. ANd now I am at least 15 LBS HEAVIER and NO RESULTS AT ALL. I wouldnt try it.............you'd get more out of a diet or diet pill than LIPODISSOLVE...........ESPECIALLY FROM ADVANCED LIPO DISSOLVE. I , like many others, chose them because they had a MONEY BACK GUARANTEE if it didnt work.......TOTAL BULL **** AND LIES.......THEY DONT GIVE YOU **** BACK. NOT EVEN AN ATTEMPT TO OFFER HALF BACK . BULL.

If I was you, I'd try something else. You gets some results from that. OR actual LIPO SUCTION would be even better than this place.

by rhondeveau, Feb 07, 2007 12:00AM
I'm glad you posted this,  I live in the KCMO area and was contemplating
this procedure.  I think I'll pass now.

by butterflygrl, Feb 12, 2007 12:00AM
To: rhondeveau
Good choice "Rhondeveau" ..........I wish I had never done it...........All I want is my money back! THAT'S ALL IS WANT. Is for them to stand by there word and what they advertise! My next call..........FOX 4 PROBLEM SOLVERS!!!

by kcguy, Feb 14, 2007 12:00AM
To: rhondeveau
rhondeveau, in this area you really need to do your homework.  There is a lot of information on the web, but a bunch of it is obviously canned stuff from the lipo promoters.  My wife and I both went to Advanced Lipo for a consultation, and we both felt like we were being pressured into buying, like the old time-share condo sessions.  We did take information away, however, talked to a number of other providers, and settled on Dr. Byers at MedCostmetic.  A number of key questions to ask: 1.Just what drug compound to they use - not all are the same.  2. Does the injected liquid include pain relief medication - most do not.  3. How often should the treatments be - speculation now seems to be that those pushing more frequent plans inject less meds each time (although I have no way of verifying that). What I see from the doctor sites now is more in the once every 4-8 weeks range. 4.  Do they require a multi-treatment plan - it appears more are now not requiring that. 5.Do they have you put on a topical numbing agent before the treatment - some do not; it is better to have it.  6. How closely spaced (in distance) are the injections - there are different approaches, not sure which is better, ours are half inch.  7. How many treatments will it take to see results - if they say guaranteed results in one treatment, run for the hills.  Evidence seems to show somewhere between 5 and 10% will not respond to the treatment.  I have not heard of people gaining weight from the therapy, although when we went to Advanced Lipo, they did stress to us that the results would only hold if we gained no more than X pounds (I think it was 8) going forward.  We are both still getting treatments.  Getting results, predictably wishing we were getting even more. Hope this helps.

by gina_d, Feb 24, 2007 12:00AM
To: I Agree
Ladies,
I am from St. Louis and signed up for 4 areas. I logged each visit and am in the teens on some areas.  Like the previous post, hundreds and hundreds of shots and over a year later - nothing.  No results!  They told me around 2/3 way through that I was a slow dissolver.  I started when they first opened their facility in Novermber 2005 and continued treatments every week for awhile.  I should have just gone in for lipo and been done with it.

I have submitted my file to the review board for a refund and I hope to see some fair action there. I'll have to keep it our local news crew in mind if I don't get my money back becuase I actually weight less now and the measurements are dead-on the same. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a full refund.

Thank goodness I didn't tell anyone that I was doing that becuase I would be so embarassed if they knew how much money I spent and got nothing in return.

Keep your money and don't fall into the so-called easy solution like I did!

Thanks for listening to my vent session.

by ang4747, Mar 28, 2007 12:00AM
Have you had any results with getting the refund?  I am going in Friday for my "refund consultation" and they say it can take up to 60 days.  If you haven't gotten your refund, please let me know how far you got in the process...I have a name and number you can call to get going on it.

I started LD (now known as fig.) in November.  My friend and I went in for a consultation and both signed up for 3 areas.  I feel bad now cause I talked her into doing it.  I started out with the 1 area in my first treatment, then moved up to two for the other treatments.  I had horrible side effects.  I would have to schedule my treatments for Friday after work and I would be down for the whole weekend every time I went for treatments.  The discomfort and swelling would get so bad that I would have to take pain meds to take the edge off.

When we first went in, we were told that we would see results after the 2nd treatment.  At our third treatments I was told that it was usually during the break between the third and fourth treatments that you started seeing results.  At my fourth treatment I was told it could take up to 6 treatments to see results.  At that point I had gained 6 pounds and told the nurse I was not satisfied.  I was told that the company could do nothing for me until I finished treatements.  This is despite the fact that every time I went in I told them how hard it was for me to get the treatments and the extreme side effects I suffered from.  I made the decision to continue because I had invested so much time and pain that I knew only a couple more treatments and I could get a refund if it didn't work.

My fifth treatment came and they put in double the meds in my lower abs.  I didn't know you could do that until I went in for my fourth treatment and had that done then too.  I was told that sometimes you could see faster results.  During my fifth treatment the needles hurt really bad.  I kept saying that it hurt far worse than normal, the nurse insisted she was doing nothing different and continued.  I went home to bed as usual.  Within one hour I had hives covering my entire body.  My sister came to take me to the ER and by the time we got there my hearing was affected because the hives were in my ears and the allergic reaction was so severe that the hives clumped together and engrossed parts of my body.  I spent the evening at the ER and have spent this past week on steroids for the hives.  This was last Friday night.

What I realized Friday night is that since I have started LD I have been suffering from random breakouts of hives.  I have sensitive skin, and I am allergic to a couple meds so I've had hives before, but usually you know right away what you did differently to cause them.  This time I couldn't figure out what was breaking me out.  I missed 2-1/2 days of work, had medical expenses, and took I don't know how much Benedryl for these crazy breakouts.  They were massive hives, too, not just little ones.  My doctor and I chalked it up to stress as the stress at my job had increased greatly.  But I figured it out Friday night at the ER.  The first treatment I had no hives because it was only one are.  It wasn't until after a week after the second treatment that I had my first reaction.  Because the meds stay in your body, my body continued to react to the medicine.  It wasn't until Friday (which the double meds and probably placement of the meds causing the severe allergic reaction) that I could definitively tie the hives to the LD - before that I hadn't even considered it!  

Saturday morning I called LD and told them about my reaction.  They scheduled an appointment for me on Monday to go in.  Then a couple hours later I got a call saying that I didn't need to go in, that I needed to call someone else (who turns out is the head or pres of client relations).  I called on Monday and left a message.  Tuesday I got a call from another party who said I needed to schedule an appointment.  She tried to tell me that I had almost finished my treatments and I quickly cut her off and reminded her that I still had a third area that I hadn't started and had been experiencing medical issues the whole time but was told I had to continue.  She didn't say anything else.  I have an appt on Friday at noon, and I cannot wait to tell them what I think.  To date, outside of the medical issues raised above, I have gained 7 pounds (this is per LD weigh-ins at every appt) with zero results.

Remember at the beginning of my story I said that the time when my friend and I would be seeing results kept getting longer?  I have her as a witness (and sounds like the promote those false results a lot)...she is also going for a refund.  She's gained weight same as I and no results (she didn't not have medical issues like I did though - I know my reaction was atypical).

I'm thinking, class-action lawsuit???  False claims of results, pressure to purchase the package with promise of quick results, being encouraged to continue with treatments despite adverse side effects.....there has to be something that can be done about this company.  I know if they do not give me a refund (and I even have photographs of my hives along with medical docs) then I am consulting an attorney – and I’m considering that even if they do give me the refund.

by Geckogirl, Mar 30, 2007 12:00AM
Has anyone gotten a refund yet?  I requested a refund back in January and keep getting told the review board has to look at my file.  We are past the 60 days.  I am ready to contact my local news investigation team.  My treatments are working but they signed me up for four areas which I didn't need.  Even the nurses agreed that I only needed one area treated.  I think patients should have  a free treatment first before they sign up to see how their body reacts and have an idea of what type of pain is associated with this treatment.  They double dosed my husband at one of his treatments and I thought I was going to have to take him to the ER.  The pain was excruciating and he could not stand up.

by sandrafromtexas, Apr 02, 2007 12:00AM
To: everyone in this posting....
Thank you so much for posting your results.....I just saw the ad on TV this week in Houston and was concidering going to see them after looking at the fig site..... I have had gastric bypass and a lower body lift after losing 110 pounds.....I still carry weight in my thighs.... and wanted to try this procedure to advance fat reduction in the thighs....I'm sorry it didnt work for you and thank you again for letting people know....I know its hard to tell ppl you have been "taken"...been there done that with other weight loss gimmicks....good luck on getting you refunds.....

by aliciajoleen, Apr 05, 2007 12:00AM
I started lipo dissolve back in June 2006.  I have been COMPLETELY disappointed!  My mom and I started it together.  She has only lost 1/2 inch and has gained a couple lbs.  I have lost 0, nadda, zilch, and gained about 10 lbs.  We spaced them out so that we were getting them every 6 weeks or so.  They said they worked better if you could hold the sessions off.  They also sold us a package of 6 sessions and said that after that it would be $99 each time for life, if we wanted to.  We went in on our 3rd appt and were told they bumped it to 9 sessions.  On our 4th appt they said they bumped it to 12 sessions.  We asked why and they said the shots weren't working like people wanted them to and they weren't giving enough (only 2 shots of 5cc's each), and they bumped it up to 40cc's for my mom and last time was 30 cc's for me!  That was about 50 or so different "sticks" with the needles.  I'm so TIRED of it!  It doesn't work and it HURTS BAD.  You swell up and turn red, get bruises and knots.  It's like I had little aliens in my stomach and they'd move around, it was awful.  I was taking darvocet and percocet to ease the pain the first 2 days.  You can only take Tylenol, unless you have a script for something stronger.  But you CANNOT take advil, aleve, or any prescription anti-inflammatories.  We had our shots done in Overland Park, KS.  They told us last time that if we didn't see any changes when we came in next (we'll be going in 2 days) then they'd submit their opinion to refund us.  Now an opinion is not what I want.  My mom and I are sickened by this and we've decided that we're not getting the shots again, regardless of a refund.  YES, we have been ripped off!  They give you false hope and say it's "slightly uncomfortable"... they say this to get you in.  I want you all to know that it DOESN'T WORK and IT'S VERY PAINFUL!!!  Just go get lipo suction, it's CHEAPER and almost IMMEDIATE results!!!

by aliciajoleen, Apr 09, 2007 12:00AM
To: all
I had my appt on Saturday.  They did measurements and photos.  I haven't lost anything, not one centimeter.  They submitted my file for a refund.  Who know's how long it will take.  The girl said they submit refunds all the time, she just has no idea if anyone has ever gotten a refund.  She told my mom that once her "nodules" go away then that would surely effect her measurements.  That's not true at all.  I had huge knots in my stomach, they go away but I think your fat just shifts to fill it up.  Those shots have got to change your body (in the area that you were getting them) and I'm not saying for the good either.  I look so gross right now.  They also changed the way the take your pictures.  You have to wear disposable panties over yours and under the shorts.  They take your pictures with the shorts on and then you have to take the shorts off so there are no discrepencies... not sure how they help prevent that.  Photoshop can do that!  If my mom and I don't get our refunds then I will be contacting Fox 4 also.  I think it would be best if we could get a few people to call the same day or within a couple days of each other.  I am also thinking about putting up a website and getting information from unhappy customers.  I will only do that if they don't give my mom and I a refund.  If you read this and are thinking about calling Fox 4 or want to share your side of things for my potential website then email me:  ***@****

by phoenix mom, Apr 09, 2007 12:00AM
To: Concerned
I just started this Lipo Dissolve in Scottsdale.  I tried to find a forum before, unfortunately, I just found this one.  I have had 2 visits.  It is very painful and big knots.  They didn't tell you that you would look pregnant for days.  It is embarrassing, and especially because it is 95 degrees here.  Why do you think it is causing weight gain?  I am really worried now.  I am dieting and exercising at the same time, so I will probably look like I have results.  I only had my stomach as a problem area, after working out, it is still there after 5 kids.  I am about to cry reading this, because I don't have that kind of money to just throw away.  I guess I dread going to the appointments now.  It hurts bad for days.  I am devastated by what you are saying.  Is there anyone out there that had a good result?  My daughter did Mesotherapy and it worked after 3 visits!  

by AliciaNorris, Apr 09, 2007 12:00AM
Unfortunately I have had the exact same experience as ALICIAJOLEEN on this forum.    I started my sessions in July 2006 at the Adv Lipodissolve in St. Louis MO.     I paid $6,000 to have 3 areas treated and have had 6-7 treatments in each area and my result is nothing but WEIGHT GAIN and I feel a lot bigger.    I am finding that a lot of posts from others have stated this problem as well.     I have ate healthy and exercised for the past 9 months since I started my treatments,  but it doesn't help when the Lipodissolve is making me GAIN weight regardless of my healthy lifestyle.    I am definitely going to be filing a claim for a refund,   although I haven't heard of anyone YET that has actually been refunded by these people.     Their money back guarantee is probably just a bogus tactic to make you feel like they are going to make you into a fat-less glamourous person,  and that just doesn't happen.    You are out the thousands of dollars AND they pack on many pounds in the process.     I wish I could report GOOD results but it has been absolutely the worst thing I have ever done in my life.

by AliciaNorris, Apr 09, 2007 12:00AM
http://www.realself.com/review/lipodissolve-review/Advanced-Lipodissolve-fig.html

Go to this webpage and see what others have experienced.   Horror stories for sure.    If you can't reach the above link,  just go to www.realself.com and do a search about Advanced Lipodissolve and you will get to the page.

by Cboehle, Apr 11, 2007 12:00AM
My mom and I also started Lipo Dissolve together.  We are both completely dissatisfied.  My mom had NO results and they even admitted that and still will not give her her money back.  I have knots and discoloration under my skin that has been there almost a year and they keep telling me it will ga away and has not.  I think there needs to be a class action lawsuit against them.  They are really ripping people off.  I am sick to think of the money we have both spent with no results.  We could have bought a car.

by aliciajoleen, Apr 11, 2007 12:00AM
To: Cboehle & alicianorris
Which facility did you go see?  I will be putting up a website soon, in about 3 weeks.  It will have all kinds of stories on there.  Please email me your story and I will be more than happy to add it to the website.  If we get enough people that are willing, then a class action is exactly what they need.

by ana w, Apr 15, 2007 12:00AM
To: phoenix mom
i go to the scottsdale clinic aldc also.
i have had 2 treatments each 4 weeks apart

i have gained a lil wieght but i think thats my fault as i havent been good with my diet, i havent been excerisizing and i dont like to drink water.

i think if i change my wicked ways, i will be able to maximize results. i am not discouraged just yet.

my 3rd treatment is this tuesday and i will be getting 20 cc which is 4 syringes and each syringe injects you 7 times. thats 28 shots in my belly so i guess its alot like getting treated for rabies. LOL.

My 1st treatment was 10 cc and my 2nd was 15cc.
i was not expecting the increase in pain. they never said that they start off light and increase the amount of injections.. so far i have not taken any tylenol but i'm probably gong to need it for this 3rd visit.

my friend deb, has had 3 treatments and has had great results. she had gone to mexico last summer and gotten lipo suction and then she got lipo deformity because of uneven suction.. she had very large lumps in stomach and the aldc has really helped her even those out and she said its like having an incredible shrinking stomach.  she is about 45 yrs old and she thinks the aldc is the best thing since sliced bread. .. her 2nd treatment was beginning of december and she just got her 3rd treatment about a week ago... she said the great thing was that she could still see the effects of her december treatment after 3 months of not going.... i have read the injections work for 4-12 weeks afterwards ...

there are alot of unhappy people in this forum but keep in mind that the happy people arent necessarily looking on the internet for someplace to post about their experience.. it is the people just starting out (like us) or the people who have went through the entire process with no results that are looking for answers and support. .. one of the girls with no results stated in her post that she was going every week but i've seen some people post that waited longer between treatments and had good results.  also how many of these people went out and started pigging out once they signed up for lipodissolve (i'm guilty of this but i am changing because it is too damn painful and expensive) i am in severe pain for 2 days and then minimal pain for another 3 days.. i look like i'm 6 months pregnant for 5 days after treatment.  very dark bruising heals rapidly in about 5 days but i can still see some (very light) bruising from last treatment 4 weeks ago.. i was 170 lbs when i started and now 175lbs however thankfully most of this weight is my 38 triple d's and i am muscular and carry my weight well, so most people would guess i am 140-150 lbs

i'm sorry for all those that have been dissappointed.  i am scared that i will not see results but knowing someone who has done it with positive results keeps me hopeful..

my cost is 2400 for lower abs ... financed at 0% IF payments are made on time and IF it is paid off within 1 year... however, my payments of $72 will not pay off the entire amount within 1 year so im sending in $200 per month so i am not charged the deferred interest rate of 21%

6-9 treatments but looks like im going to be in it for the long haul.  i have an extremely slow metabolism so its no surprise i am a "slow dissolver" but if i am one of the 5% that is a "no dissolver", that WILL suck.

by aliciajoleen, Apr 16, 2007 12:00AM
To: ana w
I received 6 treatments.  My mom and I were both going and we spaced our appointments out to 4 weeks and our we waited 6 weeks after our 4th and 6 weeks after our 5th.  It has been 9 1/2 weeks since our 6th treatment and I see no changes and they did measure me a week ago and there were no changes at all.  I didn't go pig out after starting.  I went on the Medifast diet and lost 10 lbs the first 2 weeks.  I cut down on my coffee, had 1/2 caff and less amount too.  I stopped frying foods and stopped making sure that there was chocolate in the house.  I ate salad all the time, it was my typical lunch.  I would just have a simple ceasar salad and it was light on the dressing.  I watched what I ate and drank more water.  I don't drink soda, I might have 1 root beer every couple weeks or so.  All this and I've still put on weight!  There are other forums out there and almost all the people talking about this have gained weight.  I looked at fig's website again and you should too.  Some of those pictures are obviously ****!  They have someone crossing their arms for the before picture and then lifting their arms for the after picture.  You can see this if you look close enough.  Now lift your arms up high and tell me that doesn't slim your sides down at all!

by AliciaNorris, Apr 16, 2007 12:00AM
I would love to know what the percentage is of happy vs. unhappy people there from the Lipodissolve !!     Lately there's so much about this "weight gain" that is causes.    There's no doubt that it makes some people gain weight.    My upper abs haven't looked like THIS since I was 9 months pregnant with my kids !!     It's sickening to even think how I put myself through this.    I go at the end of the month to get measured and I will post my results.    It WON'T be pretty, either !!      Fig. needs to be shut down from their misleading ads.   Notice their website has had the same before and after results that they have had since they started DOING the lipodissolve.    If so many people were getting great results,  you would think they would update their website to prove this.        

by ana w, Apr 17, 2007 12:00AM
To: alicia
i think you should give it another month. wait and see.
on your 4th visit is when you started getting full dosage.

i do know someone who has done it and it does work. she's a real person, and i have seen the weight come off of her.
you may be one of the 5-10% that dont respond to the treatments.  but i think its still possible that you will see some minimal results.

if they are offering more treatments, i would take them because your first 3 were really low dosage.

i think trying to put a company out of biz is a bit hasty at this stage.

but i dont know, maybe by my 6th appt i will be just as upset if i havent seen results. it is alot of pain to go through and the swelling and bruising are just so horrible.  i do think they should warn you of possible depression (or insane rage) as a side effect.

since i can still see some bruising, im thinking that i am probably still swollen as well and that could be why i dont look smaller.

they tell you that most of the swelling is gone by the 4th day and that is true however they skimmed over the fact that you stay swollen for weeks upon weeks.


if it wasnt for my friend having such good results, i would be totally disgusted by now.   i know its not a scam.  but there are so many scams out there and we've all tried them and been taken and are quick to think "here we go again with another one that doesnt work"

i have read the forums and i see about a 50/50 split in positive/negative with alot of positives coming from australia where they were waiting 6-8 weeks between the treatments.
and alot of negatives are coming from people who are obviously lunatics.  i sincerely doubt i'm the only one that has been irresponsible with their diet and you will find most people like to blame everything and everyone except themselves.  when i see people post that they did "everything right" it causes me to question their experience because rarely, very rarely do we do "everything right"

if we did, we most likely wouldnt need the procedure in the first place.  i'm leaving now for treatment 3 and not looking forward to it.
  

by ana w, Apr 17, 2007 12:00AM
To: alicia
look at the top at butterflygirl's first post saying she was 40 lbs overweight and then myphotographer posts that she is 106 lbs and just wants to get rid of a lil jiggly and then butterflygirl's response to her.

yeah thats all she was trying to get rid of too. .. ok does she think 40 lbs is the same amount of jiggly that a 106 lbs person has ?

LOL

could there be a lil credibility issue here ?  

by ABROWN1, Apr 18, 2007 12:00AM
To: ALL
I would like to respond to all the people that have made a comment concerning Lipo Dissolve and their 100% guarentee.

I started treatments in June of last year. I weighed in at 147 and I am 5' 7".
I purchased the Swan package thinking that this was the miracle of all miracles.
Anyway thats the way they explained it to me in my consultation, and by the way I was the perfect candidate because I was not over weight and I should see results by my 2nd or 3rd visit.

I started with my inner thighs, outer thighs and that good ol bannana roll.
I gave them a break half way through because I was so swollen and had gained over 5 lbs at this time and was told that it would be a good idea to move to another area.  I started my lower abs and love handels and switched back and forth until they were both completed.  I comleted my legs (3 areas) the last week of December and was told to wait 8-12 weeks before my measurements.
I completed my 2 areas on my stomach in February.  By this time I weiged 157 pounds.  The nurses said that my body was probably rejecting the shots and ask if I wanted to continue for another 6 treatment, I refused to do any more treatments, if six didn't make a difference I am sure not going through six more treatments.

I went back for my measurements in March for my legs and measured exactly the same but weighed in at 152.  I waited to hear back on my refund and last week finally called and spoke to a lady named Tanya at 314-743-5544 who told me that my refund was declined due to the weight gain. I explained to her that most peoples weight fluctuates 2-3 pounds everyday. I was not happy with this and ask her if I needed to hire a lawyer, she ask that I come back in and get re-measured since I was not completely finished with all my shots until February.  She also stated that the review board noticed a difference in my pictures (I looked at the pictures and could not see any difference except for the indention that the shots left in my right leg and the roll that it left in my inner left leg).  I am going back tomorrow 4-18 to get remeasured, I weighed myself on my scales and weigh in at 145, I guess I will see what they want to weigh me in at.

For all of you who are not able to get a refund and are not happy with your results I think it's time we take actions.  This is suppose to be 100% money back guarenteed.  But I am not seeing it that way.  I think we all need to take this a level higher and make Lipo Dissolve stand up to the guarentee they promised.

by aliciajoleen, Apr 19, 2007 12:00AM
To: anna w, alicianorris, butterfly, abrown
I think you're terrribly mean anna w.  Butterfly is 40lbs overweight and I don't see an issue with that.  She's also had kids.  Not everyone is blessed with being thin.  Everyone looks for something to help them, even if it's just enough improvement to motivate them to do more.  I started my shots last June which was months before the Scottsdale office was open.  They have SEEN that the shots aren't working so they've increased the dosage.  We were told that they ONLY do 10ccs and there is no reason to do more.  Then all of a sudden the bump it up to 40 or even 50ccs.  That's telling me that they don't work.  It doesn't say weight loss sure, but it DOES say lose inches and you just don't do that.  I've been seeing more negative experiences lately than positive.  Out of the 5 of us, you're the only one that is thinking positive and you just started 8 weeks ago.  So even if it worked for your friend, that's still one person vs. 4 of us.  I'd say the odd's are against you, but still wish you the best of luck.  Don't come down on people because they are overweight.  One day it may hit you!
alicianorris and butterfly... please email me your stories so I can add them to my website.  I know alicianorris and abrown have it, but still waiting for a story to put up from alicia and butterfly.  Thank you guys!

by aliciajoleen, Apr 19, 2007 12:00AM
To: To All
I'm just going to lay it out there fore everyone.  It's prooven that lipo suction works, it's proven the a littl yoga or pilates helps (in a fun way), and if you live in MO or KS then you should set up a consult with Dr. Bennet in Leawood, Ks.  I've bee looking into plastic surgeons for years and it all came back to him/  His name is Dan L. Bennett,  his # is 913-491-9777.  People swear that he's the greatest.  I'm still going to get my refund, still going to start my page, and still considering a lot more, I'll just talk to you guys in email.
Have a good night

by ana w, Apr 20, 2007 12:00AM
To: alicia
lipo suction has been proven to work for SOME people

its also been proven to have resulted in death to some people while undergoing the procedure.

there is not 1 reported case of a person dying as a result of a lipo dissolve injection.  100% of the people walking into the clinic come back out of it alive.   There may be complications we are not aware of further down the road  but at least all of us get out of the clinic alive to journey down that road,

people have walked into liposuction and not walked out.

how would you feel if one of these women you are encouraging to get liposuction took your advice and they died during the surgery from one of the numerous complications that can arise during this procedure  ?  

they can only safely remove 2-7 lbs
thats a whole lot of risk for just a couple of lbs of jiggly
and its more expensive too

by ana w, Apr 20, 2007 12:00AM
anyone wanting more information is welcome to email me at
***@****  

good luck to all

by sossissy, Apr 20, 2007 12:00AM
To: All
I have been looking on the internet to find out if anyone else has gained weight from Lipo Dissolve.  I have gained about 7 lbs. and wanted to know if anyone who has finished their treatments for at least a month has lost the weight without changing their normal eating and exercising pattern.  I have found many who are dissatisfied with their treatments, however I have also noticed something different from the treatments I have received.  All my treatments have been in both upper and lower abs, however, they switch off which area is concentrated on more on every other visit.  All visits have had some shots to both areas.  At my first visit I was given 20cc to see how my body reacted to the injections.  After that point, I was given 50cc every two weeks.  Yes, it is painful, extremely painful.  For two days I am down.  By the time the swelling starts going down, I am due for another treatment.  This is a little depressing, because I just start feeling better and here it comes again.  There is not time to see if I have had great results or not.  I do see some improvement and think after my last round of injections I will continue to see improvement.  I dread going back but I only have two more treatments left.  I think I may get one more before summer and then wait for the last one when summer is over.  I only paid $1600 for 6 treatments and they charge $1200  for 6 treatments to each additional treatment area.  Good luck to all.

by ana w, Apr 20, 2007 12:00AM
i woulld never make fun of someone for being overweight. i am not skinny. i weigh 175 lbs.  however i will howl with laughter and gladly go to hell for doing so anytime someone tries to say that their 40 lbs of jiggly is the same amount of jiggly that a 106 lbs person has cuz thats a discrepancy of about 38.5 lbs of jiggly.

this following excerpt is from a link on fig's website. on their home page, go to the very bottom where it says press room click there and then click on the article dated nov 22 2006 to see the full article.  i'd encourage you to read all the articles listed there since they are from independant sources. they lay out the good, the bad and the ugly. From a legal perspective, i dont see where fig has done anything wrong and i seem to remember signing a stack of papers which i'm sure was the fig way of cya. anyway, im sorry  you didnt get the results you wanted.  


The Advanced Lipo Dissolve Center offers a 100 percent money back guarantee.

But keep in mind, the center may decide whether your treatment really worked or not. They may even offer another series of free shots to see if more treatment achieves the desired result, something you may not be interested in doing if you were bothered by side effects or the pain of the shots.

by ABROWN1, Apr 22, 2007 12:00AM
To: sossissy
I have completed my treatments to my lower abs and lower love handles.
I also had the 3 areas done on my legs.  I did gain 7 lbs during the 9 months of procedure but have since lost the weight and I am back down to my normal weight.  I felt the same way during my treatments, injections, swelling for 7-10 days ( had to buy bigger clothes)and finally start to feel normal and back in for injections again.

I went in for my second measurement this past Friday.  The nurse that came in to do my measurements had to call in another nurse because she was not sure how to measure me, the nurse that joined her stayed in the room until the measurements were done but she wasn't sure either and was asking me if I remember were and how they took my measurements.

My first claim was denied because I weighed 152 lbs at the time of measurements and only weighed 147 on my first visit, so I asked to be re-measured.  This last visit I weighed in at 149 ( I don't know about you but I normally float 2-3 lbs per day)a difference of 2 lbs but still no difference on the measurements.  I went through alot of treatments and expected to see results but I saw none, and now I am getting the run around on my refund.

During my visit Friday I was talking to a lady that was having her lower abs and upper abs done and she said she was not given the 100% guarentee. She's completed two treatments and is only able to get them once a month and has not noticed a difference yet.  That just maked me think that they are not able to stand behind their product.

I will keep you updated on my refund.

by ang4747, Apr 22, 2007 12:00AM
IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING LIPODISSOLVE, PLEASE DO NOT DO IT.  Work with your doctor to find a way that is medically safe to lose weight.  After reading the rest of my blog, you will understand why.  If you have had difficulties with your refund process, call the toll free number and talk to Tonya.  I don't have her last name, but mention it's with regards to a refund and I'm sure they will get you to the right person.  Also, don't let them bully you.  If you are due a refund, fight it.  Contact the Better Business Bureau - that's what they are there for.  Contact whoever you need to, just make sure you get your guaranteed refund.  

I'm hoping that someday soon somebody will file a class action lawsuit against this company - especially considering what I will tell you all regarding my refund consultation.  If anyone is interested in going as a group to the local Kansas City news investigation team, I think that these stories need to go public.  I know I would share my story and I'm sure my friend would as well.

I previously posted with regards to a severe allergic reaction I had after my fifth treatment and the pain and weight gain I've had.  Keep in mind I am 5'4 and weighed 122.  I had lost weight by myself through diet and exercise 6 yrs ago and wanted to attack the hard to get rid of areas that working out has not.  I kept the weight off for 6 yrs until I went into Lipodissolve.  

Since my last blog I have gone in for my refund consultation and I have some unbelievable things things to report.  My friend has gone in for her refund consultation and she told me that the staff told her the same things.

I talked to the KC Clinical Director.  I explained my allergic reaction and the fact that I have gained 7 lbs since starting Lipodissolve (as documented in each of my appointment weigh-ins).  The director told me that they had a different treatment they could use without some ingredient that they have identified as causing allergic reactions.  I told them no - I'm not about to put anything else in my body after the ordeal I've been through.

We then moved on to discuss my weight gain.  She told me, "We don't take credit for weight gain."  I told her that after 6 yrs of weight loss the only thing I changed was getting the lipodissolve and suddenly I'm 7 lbs heavier.  She repeated, "We don't take credit for weight gain."  Of course not.

I then explained what I had been told from day one with how fast the results would occur and how that timeframe has mysteriously gotten longer and longer each time I have gone in.  YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE WHAT SHE TOLD ME NEXT.

The Clinical Director of KC told me (and later told my friend at her consultation) that when they first started lipodissolve and time passed, they realized they weren't seeing the results that other countries had seen with the product.  So they have continously going back to the "drawing board" to find out what was different and why their patients were not seeing results.  She said that they recently found that one of the reasons was that they weren't injecting enough medication into patients so they begain to double up on doses.  This explains why in my fourth treatment they gave me double the meds when I complained about my results.  And I'm sorry, when you market a product, shouldn't you have already done all the testing necessary to know whether it works???

I asked them to process my refund.  I also asked for a complete copy of my chart and I signed a release form.  Out of all the times I went in and complained about the amount of pain the treatments were causing me and the weight gain, only one nurse had documented complaints about weight gain.  No one had ever documented the amount of pain the treatments were causing me.

I had to go back a week ago and get measurements.  Surprise, they are the same as before I started my treatments, although my stomach sticks out a lot more than it ever has and I have the weight gain and my pants do not fit right.

Here is the thing with Lipodissolve.  They advise you to do the treatments and to go on their diet and exercise regularly.  Some people do their diet, some do their own.  But I seem to have noticed that those who go on a diet and a regular exercise program always see "results".  Then, of course, Lipodissolve takes credit for those "results".  But what no one is considering is that they could have lost that weight and those inches without Lipodissolve.  Why?  Because when you lose weight, you also have the tendancy to lose inches, which the people at Lipodissolve have yet to connect.  So instead of getting yourself injected with a product that Lipodissolve themselves admits hasn't worked in the past and they have had to go back and figure out why....work with your doctor, diet and exercise and skip the injections.  You'll have more money in your pocket, and you won't have to worry about being a potential horror story blog.

by aliciajoleen, Apr 26, 2007 12:00AM
To: All
The website is up.  www.lipodissolvedoessuck.com   There is a link to post in a forum there.  

by JENNIFER ROSE, Jun 27, 2007 02:30PM
To: Everyone who has had adverse results, no results or problems with FIG/any Lipodissolve Center!!!!
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY PHOTOS OR PROOF OF LIPODISSOLVE ADVERSE REACTIONS!!??

I also had a very upsetting experience with the lipo-dissolve treatments with bad results similar to everything I have been reading on this blog.  I have been researching Lipo-dissolve and mesotherapy fat dissolving procedures to try and find out the truth about the safety and regulations for this cosmetic procedure that is popping up in Medi-Spas across America.  

Go to this link and read the article and news coverage!
http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=6433232

There are more articles about the problems with these Medi-Spas and LipoDissolve centers - AND most of the websites are sooooo shady!!! Some of these "certified doctors" have medical degrees from random countries in the middle east or mexico!  THIS IS SO SCARY!!  

I keep reading that LIPODISSOLVE IS NOT FDA APPROVED and the American Society for Aesthetic Plastic Surgery is not supporting this cosmetic procedure until it is FDA approved! There is hardly any data available on the adverse effects! This means we also have no idea for certain what the centers are mixing into the injections or whether the amounts are safe to be absorbed!  

I WANT TO BRING A STORY FOR SURE TO THE NEWS STATION AS OTHERS HAVE SUGGESTED TO PREVENT THESE CLINICS FROM TAKING OUR MONEY FOR SOME UNAPPROVED (potentially risky) PROCEDURE and stop other companies out there that are also doing these procedures unregulated, unsafe, and illegally without FDA approval.  

IF ANYONE HAS PHOTOS OR DOCUMENTED PROOF of adverse reactions from lipo-dissolve like lacerations, lumpiness and skin discoloration etc.  We should DEF post them or complie them anonymously to make a newsworthy story that will actually be reported on.  

Who's with me??

Jen R

by mdeneui, Jun 28, 2007 06:49PM
I am just reading this board now and am furious.  I spent $1,600 and 16 weeks of pure hell to go through this procedure and finding out that everyone else has gone through the same **** with no results.  Thankfully, I didn't have as many problems as others on this site but the pain and swelling is NOT FUN.

So basically, I'm 20 overweight and just wanted my tummy reduced.  I have now gain 6 pounds, my pants fit tight and I also have very big swings in weight ( I believe water retention).  Sometimes as much as 5-6 pounds in one day but then it's all back again.

My procedure was done by a known surgeon in the Bay Area and he assured me that it would work.  Only after my 4th treatment (when they saw it now working) did they start talking about giving me a credit towards lipo-suction.  

It's really incredible how a Doctor can give you bad advice despite knowing that there are issues with this procedure.  I've heard the failure rate is 15%.

MD

by cris8, Jul 09, 2007 03:01AM
To: Anyone
So has anyone filed or tried to file a lawsuit against this company.  I just contacted the Attorney's General Office in Kansas so hopefully I will hear something back.

Also, has anyone been able to get any of their medical records or a copy of the apparent CONTRACT that we all signed.  I can't tell you how many times I've requested those documents and now they tell me that they must send them to Corporate Headquarters in St. Louis to have them copied.  Makes you wonder why.  Yeah... that was one month ago.

Another thing... went I went in for my final pictures, the women obviously had taken proffessional classes in eye balling because she told me that the pictures were more reliable than the actual measurements-- which surprise, surprise were the same as when I started.  

I guess John Hiebert is the head medical director at the Kansas City Office and I have yet to meet or even see this guy around the office..... just wondering if he exists.   Has anyone met him?

Well, as most of this blog states "UNLESS YOUR REALLY REALLY SKINNY AND ONLY HAVE A CENTIMETER OR TWO TO LOSE, DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY OR YOUR TIME"  

You know,, for a few more hundred dollars, I could have had a tummy tick and been wearing a 2-peice this summer!

by hopeful78, Jul 13, 2007 01:38AM
I would also like to know if anyone has received a refund from Lipo Dissolve (now FIG).  I was approved for a refund from the review board a couple weeks ago and was told that I just had to wait for it to go through Accounting.  That was a couple weeks ago.  

I will be calling FIG in the next couple of days.  I will keep everyone posted.

by vegas girl, Jul 13, 2007 02:12PM
To: ALL
I was encouraged to signed up for the Swan package back in March, to get the best for a good price.  By the second treatment, I had severe allergic reaction and saw Fig's own doctor.  I was told they NEVER (?) heard of any allergic reactions to the treatment.  She prescribed Bacitracin ointment, took some pictures of the rashes and told me she would recommend stopping all treatments and issuing me a refund. From then on, I've been shuffled around between the Las Vegas clinic and the corporate office.  I got the feeling that they are trying to avoid reviewing my case so they don't have to give me a refund.  When I finally spoke to someone, I was assured that the refund was never a problem because I followed procedure, even saw their own doctor, and it was just a matter of time.  I am very frustrated because they are continuing on on charging me even though I am not getting any treatments at all.  I threatened them of suing and going to the media.  I just heard from them.  The letter says that I am getting a refund, which to me is not a refund at all.  First, they are charging me a cancellation fee of $500.  I would understand this fee if I cancelled the treatments on my own, but I had severe adverse reactions and was advised by their physician to stop treatment.  Second, they are charging me for the treatments that I got.  In truth, their guaranteed refund policy is a hoax.  Once it is time for them to pay up, all the fine prints comes up.  They also want you to sign a "Guaranteed Results Program Agreement" when they issue a refund.  This agreement reads: I, _______, hereby agree that I consideration of a refund pursuant to the fig. Guaranteed Results Program (the "Refund"), I unconditionally and forever release, hold harmless and discharge fig., its affiliates, and their respective directors, officers, employees, agents, successors and assigns (collectively "fig."), from any and all claims, demands or actions in law or equity, suits, debts, liens, contracts, agreements, promises, liabilities, damages, loss, costs, or expenses of any nature whatsoever, whether known or unknown, fixed or contingent ("Claims"), which I had, have or may not have received from fig.  In addition, I agree that I will not, in any manner, either directly or indirectly, disclose to any third person or entity any information, facts or circumstances related to or regarding this agreement or Refund, and I will hold fig. harmless from any and all Claims arising out of or relating to my breach of this agreement."

I don't know if I should sign this document, because I think this is their attempt to keep anyone getting the refund from telling others their scheme.  I think those of us who have gone through this HELL should sue and let others know what kind of company this is.  IT IS A SCUM!!! They should be stopped!!!!

by sweetmist, Jul 19, 2007 01:04AM
To: everyone
You ALL need to take your stories to the local news media immediately. Also file a complaint with your local BBB. Don't forget to file complaints with
rip-off.com and  consumer-Xchange   Get the word out.  I also got ripped off.  If we all put pressure on the FDA maybe something will get done.  Most important you can file in small claims court on-line for up to $2400.00 claim. Get the pressure going, try to call everyday. Be a squeeky, screaming wheel, get demanding!!

by TEXASJOCK, Jul 19, 2007 01:18AM
To: everyone
okay...after reading all your posts, I feel really really stupid. Just today, I signed up for my first set of shots on my lovehandles.  Okay,I am a MALE and I weigh 150lbs, 30w, smooth body, 5' 7, but I could never get rid of some love handles that i have had for so so long.  I am by far not overweight, just had this one trouble spot and maybe a lil fat on my tummy.  I went in just for the consulation, and they make it seem such like a "reel in and sinker" and I feel for it.....but what can I do now.  

I applied for their credit and was approved and now im real scared about continuing.  I am swollen on both my sides, I mean it hurts, but its not like real unbearable.  I hve noticed reddish circles/bruising around the shot areas.  I got 7 on one side and 7 on another side.  I go again in a few weeks.  

I will let you all know if i am getting any progress done.  I work out 5 times a week at the gym and eat very healthy.  So who knows what will happen, or if I will get any results at all, but I will keep you all posted (especially for those who are not sure about it).  I just signed up today...i should have read this forum before hand........but what can i do now...anyways...i hope it has worked for some of you out there..I took pictures of my bruising areas of a first days shots, if anyone wants to see them.  I will be taking daily pictures to see how it goes...

by sweetmist, Jul 19, 2007 01:06PM
To: TEXASJOCK
your next visit will be 38 to 60 shots, so be prepared.  Start complaining now!!!  YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET ANY RESULTS.  THIS IS A SCAM.  For all you others reading this. I just got confirmation in a letter admitting liability from lipo-corp.  As soon as mine is settled, I will post how to proceed

by sweetmist, Jul 19, 2007 01:10PM
To: vegas girl
DONT SIGN ANYTHING.   They will still have to give you your refund because now you have proof of liability.  You can take all your papers to small claims court and the news media. If they say, we wont give you the check unless you sign.   I am not a lawyer but This is whats working for me.

by TEXASJOCK, Jul 19, 2007 01:58PM
To: sweetmist/anyone
Well, i already signed all those paper, and come to think of it now.  They didnt give me a copy of that 6 page contract I had to sign, with all the "initialing" that i did.  I am goign to ask for a copy of that to re-read it again in detail.  I think its too late to cancel, I mean what could I possibly do?  I just did it yesterday and got one treatment.  And I applied for their credit-patient-care credit or whatever where you pay it off monthly.  Mine was  $2,300 for love handles area only.  It's for the whole area of treatment, so not any given number of treatments.  She just told me that until I am satisfied with the area etc.  

I wish I wouldnt have done it, because now I cant even go to the gym, swim in a pool, or meet other people intimately because of my protruding love handles now...(they are swollen big time).  Any ideas or should I just continue with it?

by sweetmist, Jul 20, 2007 02:35AM
To: texasjock
You should be able to do a charge back with the credit card company.  Just call the credit card company, tell them you had side effects and major pain and you wish to cancel your contract loan.
Lipo only gives you a forth of the treatment the first time to make sure you don't have any side effects, or allergic reaction.  Be sure you also call lipo and complain about the side effects tomorrow.

Make a big deal of this. Tell them what you told me regarding the gym, pool, sex life ect..  Do not let them talk you into continuing.

If you feel pressured in any way.  I want you to get on-line to
www.consumerxchange.com and file a complaint.

You need to do this now!

let the credit card company know that lipo refused to give you a copy of your contracts.

by sweetmist, Jul 20, 2007 02:51AM
To: TEXASJOCK
its consumerxchange.org.  Everyone that got ripped off should file a complaint at this site. I did and they are a big help!
If you want to talk me outside of this forum I am at ***@****  I say we all band together and let them have it!

by zetnamalat, Jul 20, 2007 12:56PM
To: Everyone
I just had my first lipo dissolve experience yesterday and I have to admit it was a piece of cake. I did swell, I have tenderness and soreness, but these things are to be expected. I was able to go back to work after the procedure. My experience was very positive and I'm looking forward towards my results. I'll keep you posted.

by sweetmist, Jul 21, 2007 12:20PM
To: all
lets talk

by gmg37, Jul 22, 2007 05:53PM
To: all
Has anyone had good results?  I have had my consultation and go for measurements on tuesday.  i am seeing a plastic surgeon.  he talked first to me about liposuction.  he is much more comfortable with that proceedure since he has been doing it for several years.  i am having abs done first then if it works for abs will have love handles done.  i am 5' 7" and 140#, exercise at least 5 days a week and usually eat right.  I dont want to go thru a surgical procedure if i can avoid it but i dont want to go thru this and not only not have results but may GAIN wgt.  what i have read is that about 12% of people who have had lipodissolve are not happy with the results.  

by adm16265, Jul 26, 2007 04:58PM
To: all
I assure you that Lipodissolve is not a scam. I have been an employee at Fig. Corporate for almost a year and half now. I have seen many success stories! Some patients see results as early as 3 weeks after treatment! Patients typically see results by the 12th week after their final treatment. The fat cells in the treated areas are destroyed so they never return! The science of the compund is amazing and has given many patients great results.

If anyone has any questions I'd be happy to help.

by sweetmist, Jul 27, 2007 10:59PM
To: all
I GOT ALL MY MONEY BACK. I couldn't have done it without consumerxchange.org.  They got me my refund (ALL $2400.00) with-in 48 hours!  I had been trying since march and got no-where.  So if you are unhappy with your 0 results get a hold of them.  It is well worth the $48.00, I'm gonna send him a big fat tip!

by TEXASJOCK, Jul 30, 2007 01:08AM
To: all
I posted awhile back and want to let you know of my progress.  I did only my lovehandles and well its hard to tell if i've had any progess because of the swelling has gone down.  I want to believe that mylove handles feel slimer, but to be honest I cant tell.  So I have taken myown measurements and I amgoignto compare them with those that they have for me back at the place.  I would ASK for the contract, the 6 page one copies of it, and get your measurements, so that you can keep track to see it its working.  

I want to say that my sides feel slimer, but I mean maybe I am just noticing my regular love handles.  Again, I have only been once so I will go again for a second time.  I will keepyou all posted.  I do have pictures of the swelling if anyone wants to see what it will look like.  

by adm16265, Jul 30, 2007 02:53PM
To: TEXASJOCK
Definately keep up with your treatments. Most patients typically see results by the 12th week, some as soon as 3 weeks after treatment. It is too soon to see definitive results right after your first treatment. Lipodissolve is a process, so don't get discouraged this early on. If you have any questions I'd be happy to help. As I posted earlier I have worked for Fig. for almost a year and half and I have seen many success stories. Those who have no results are a very small percentage of the population. Most of our patients are happy and excited with the outcome of their treatment.

by gmg37, Jul 30, 2007 08:55PM
To: adm16265
I'll get my first treatment this coming monday.  any advice on how to keep myself comfortable during the process.  i'll be having it done right before work-desk job.  I hear i should take tylenol and eat a good protein filled meal a couple of hours before. should i take some benadryl pre procedure or after to help control itching? thanks for your comments.  what i have read is that it DOES work for many patients.  I can only hope it will help me, if not....liposuction her i come!

by adm16265, Aug 01, 2007 02:13PM
To: gmg37
Since you are going to work after your treatment I would suggest wearing loose fitting clothing, nothing that will rub or put pressure on your injection sites. Taking tylenol before your appointment would be fine. These areas can be sensitive for up to 72 hours afterwards. It is also normal to experience swelling and some burning sensations in the treatment area.

You asked about taking Benadryl... I just spoke with a nurse here and she said Benadryl would be fine to take after your treatment, however keep in mind that it can make you very drowsy and that may not be ideal for going to work afterwards. She suggested taking another Anti-histamine such as Zyrtec or Claritin (over the counter). These have the same effects as Benadryl without the drowsiness. Hope this helps! Good luck!

by gmg37, Aug 01, 2007 09:12PM
To: adm16265
Thanks for the advise!  I'll keep all of you posted!

by btdt43, Aug 03, 2007 11:21PM
To: Everyone
Have you seen the ads to have the free DVD rushed to you? I called 2 times in a span of 8 weeks, both times I was told they're on back order, it'll be 4 weeks before they come in. If I wanted, I could signup for the free consultation and I could get the DVD when I go in. I aksed if I could just go by and pick one up, they said no I have to have the consultation first. Why do I need the DVD if I have the consultation? Bait and switch? Something isn't right abou this company. There have already been 65 complaints to the BBB in 36 months, that's a lot. I did consider having it done but they are so pushy, once they have your information, they call al the time, I had to ask them to stop calling me, all I called for was the DVD and they wouldn't leave me alone. That's all I needed to know.

by Denali38, Aug 06, 2007 01:13PM
To: adm16265
I have no doubt that for the right candidates, this procedure works.  However, I have had my 6 treatments and no results.  I don't think I was a good candidate for this procedure, my BMI was just below the recommended 30.  After I had the treatments my physician told me I was not a good candidate for any type of procedures like Liposuction or Lipodissolve.  So, after not getting results I requested a refund, it went to the board of review where they refused, and recommended more treatments.  So, I am in process of looking for help so that I can get my refund.
Adm16265, could you help with that?

by adm16265, Aug 07, 2007 03:28PM
To: btdt43
We didn’t anticipate the initial high demand for the DVDs, but we certainly have DVDs available now.  Of course, the best way to get the most personal information is to come in for a consultation; however, you don’t have to do that to receive a DVD.  If you call, we can get a DVD out to you within the coming week.  I am personally unaware of the BBB claims, but I know every day at fig. we make it a priority to ensure our patients are satisfied and receive the highest standard of care from our medical staff.


by adm16265, Aug 08, 2007 08:17AM
To: Denali38
At which location did you have treatment? I can help you get in touch with a person who directly deals with refunds for that location.

by dancerdarlin, Aug 10, 2007 01:33PM
To: butterflygrl
I realize that this is a crappy situation and you should get your money back, but I am willing to bet that you didn't read the fine print. Being 40lbs overweight is not only extremely unhealthy, but this procedure stresses that it is not designed for overweight people wanting a quick fix. Even with liposuction...you are supposed to be as close to your ideal weight as possible and that means maybe about 4 or 5 lbs over. I know losing weight is important, but high priced surgery is not the answer. You need to stick to diet and exercise and make sure you really read through things carefully before you dive into elective surgery. If you are very overweight, which it sounds like you are, then maybe you should consider lap band surgery or gastric bypass.

by TxSweetheart, Aug 10, 2007 03:27PM
To: dancerdarlin
I wish I would have found this site earlier.  I did research before I got the procedure and could not find anything bad.  I am due to receive my 3rd treatment in Houston next week.  The 1st treament went very well.  I was only swollen for one day and then it went down.  I lost inches and all of my clothes were loose.  There was no pain and I felt great and was very pleased with the results.  My 2nd visit hurt very much.  I had instant swelling and itching.  The swelling has not gone down and it has been one week.  I have bruises and the injection sites are still red.  I am bigger than I was before and look like I am gaining weight.  The scale has not gone up but all of my clothes are tight.  I spoke with the office and they said the reaction occured because I just finished my monthly cycle and would be more sensitive during that time.  I will let you know how the 3rd session goes.  I hope it does not get wrose.

by gmg37, Aug 11, 2007 07:53AM
To: TxSweetheart
I am on my first treatment now 5 days out.  Swellnig is normal. why you didnt swell like a blowfish the first time i dont know but what you have now is what i am experiencing.  i am still swollen, slightly bruised, and slightly uncomfortbable.  this should quickly pass usuually in 7-10days (thats what my m.d. said). i havent heard anything about the reaction occuring because of your cycle. i cant imagine what that has to do with anything

by gmg37, Aug 11, 2007 12:38PM
To: TxSweetheart
I forgot one other thing.  my doctor said you shouldnt get your treatments any sooner than 4 weeks apart.  you are going every 2 weeks?  Also, it can take up to 4-6 weeks to get full results doesnt it seem odd that you wouldnt wait until all the swelling goes down before another treatment is started?  you may not even need another treatment if you like your results.  just  a thought.

by ondiux, Aug 13, 2007 03:48PM
To: gina_d
Hi everybody,
I started this Lipo "dissolve" treatment at Fig in Las Vegas back in February. I have had 5 treatments in my lower abs, and 6 in my love handles. They told me in the beginning that I would only need 6 treatments total and that would cost $4,000.00. (I only wanted to get rid of the "stubborn fat"). I started by sending $500.00 the first and second month, but after seeing NO results at all, I decided to only send the minimum payment, but I have been putting the rest of the money aside, so I don't have to pay interests. Ok, back to my treatments; we are in August and still haven't seen results yet, and like many of you, I have gained weight. Every time I'm going to get dressed, I have to choose clothes that are going to "cover" the areas where I get the shots because I look like I'm pregnant all the time. I'm only 5'1 so any weight increase makes me look huge. I started by going every 2 weeks like they told me, but one of the nurses told me that it would be better if I waited a month or longer, so I did, and still nothing. When I went for treatment in June, I told one of the nurses that I was very unhappy because I didn't see any results at all, and she asked me if I wanted to talk to the Dr. Dr. Brown came in and she told me that I should finish the 6th treatment and use laser treatments for 12 minutes in one area at a time, only before the shots to reduce the pain at no cost, so I did. She also told me that I could get as many more shot treatments as necessary until I see results at no costs either. Ok, I got the laser treatment, and yes I had less pain afterwards, but still bad. I usually have to stay in bed for 2 days, and I get huge. I went back on July 30th, and I talked to Dr. Brown again because I still did not see any results. She suggested to do the laser treatments before and after now, and she also prescribed TRAMADOL 50 mg (generic for ULTRAM) instead of Tylenol cause I told her I was tired of being in pain and for what, no results at all. I also told her that I wanted to stop the treatments because I was very dissapointed and worry that I may stay like this because I have been exercising and I don't seem to go down at all, on the contrary I feel bigger and bigger every day. I also told her that I would like my money back, that I don't want to go through all that pain any more. She went to get my file and showed me what I'd signed where it says UP TO 9 TREATMENTS to see results or money back, but I just don't want to do it any more. 3 more treatments means 6 or more months of pain, swelling, anxiety, etc., and it's guaranteed, who knows!!!! I am also kind of depressed!

by ondiux, Aug 14, 2007 03:55AM
To: Everybody, adm16265
I've just posted my experience today, but what I forgot to mention is that Dr. Brown told me on my last appointment that the reason why I look like I've gained weight is because I still have medication in my system, and doing the laser treatments before and after will help with the pain as well as with "faster results" , but I didn't get the shots that day because I had to get the prescription first. Lipo Dissolve claims that once the fat is gone never returns, well Dr. Brown told me that is not true, that that morning she had just been to a meeting and some recent research prooves that the FAT DOES COME BACK if you gain weight AND IT HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE where the cells are not dead!!!!!!

by notsureyet, Aug 15, 2007 12:31AM
To: txsweetheart
i was just wondering where in houston you got your treatments done at.I also got them done in houston

by atlinthehouse, Aug 16, 2007 11:38PM
To: all
I went in for consultation 2 months ago in Atlanta, Fig, yes I felt like I got sucked in...they're good at selling. However, my profession is a pharm rep so I recongize the need to close the deal, it's life. History: I'm 5'6 125 and 35 yrs old (sounds like a personals ad, LOL)  I've acquired my mother's thighs but slim everywhere else. I had my first treatment when they "closed" me that day. I only felt 1 or 2 pricks of the needle on either side but holy cow did my thighs swell up within 10 mins but that only last through the night. The next few days (3-5) I had to wear dresses because my pants wouldn't go over my thighs! I did have some difficult nights and walking around hitting things; All of which they told me would happen. 2 weeks later I was still sore but committed to getting this over with...my right thigh has always had a pocket of fat I've be embarressed of since 8th grade and IT"S GONE WITH 1 TREATMENT!  It kills me to hear all the people that are dissappointed with this. I'm going tomorrow to receive my 3rd treatment on my thighs, and I forgot to say I purchased my inner thighs and bananas (again 1 treatment each and have seen some results). My girlfriend is about 20 lbs heavier than me and she is doing her stomach, she's getting excellent results. I wanted to do more research on the Fig before I signed up for $6k, I'm glad I did not see this blog before...I wouldn't have gone through with it and not received the results and felt confident again. It sounds like the majority of the individuals on this blog are the 12% they tell you about. I read every single paper they gave me and I realized at that point they were cya cya cya themselves, so I prepared for the what-if's. Legal documents are in place in our country because a small % of people don't take responsibilty for their part of failures and managing expectations which all of us have agreed to, in writing. Hang in there ladies/men and keep calling the office you went to. The manager in the office I went to has been accessable every time I've been there and checking on the people in the waiting room, and the staff is so concerned and pretty funny, I'm sure they'll if you get their attention and take a non-confrontational approach they company would respond, right? I hate to sound too optimistic when things are going not so well for others but for those who are looking for the good, here I am. However, maybe at my 6th treatment I'd have gained 20lbs by eating everynight in bed and not excercising after I get my injections and I'll be singing a different tune.

by adm16265, Aug 17, 2007 01:05PM
To: Ondiux
As an employee of fig.here are the facts: The average person possesses a finite number of adipocytes (fat cells). Advanced LipoDissolve will permanently dissolve adipocytes in the area of treatment, leaving only a thin layer of cells. If a person gains weight, the treated area can get larger because adipocytes still remain (it is impossible and unsafe to remove all adipocytes). However, the treated area should remain proportionate.

Because Advanced LipoDissolve is an investment in an improved body shape, it is important to maintain a healthy lifestyle of diet and exercise to avoid excess weight gain. This procedure is not solely a quick fix, but a commitment to start and maintain a healthy lifestyle as well. If a patient begins to gain weight in areas of treatment, it is because they did not commit to a healthy lifestyle to prevent excess weight gain.  

Hope this clears things up for you. If you have any other questions please ask! :)

Ondiux, stick with your program, your clinic will not let you down. They are committed along with you to help you achieve the body you desire.
  

by Pumpkin22, Aug 21, 2007 01:09AM
To: adm16265
ADM, what do we do now that this procedure has been banned in Kansas, when people have treatments left and have paid using care credit???

by gertks, Aug 21, 2007 09:35AM
I have just finished my 5th ab procedure and 4th love handles.  I admit the pain was unbearable when I first started treatments, but I started using numbing cream and it was a piece of cake.  I can't stand how I look for a week after the injections, but after about the 2nd week out.  I feel good and fit in to all my clothes just a little bit better.  To be perfectly honest I have not altered my diet or exercise.  I do my injections about a month apart from eachother and that seems to motivate me!  Hopefully more positive blogs will appear!

by gertks, Aug 21, 2007 09:38AM
To: adm16265
just saw that it has been banned and i am asking the same ? as pumpkin22

by adm16265, Aug 21, 2007 09:54AM
To: ALL
For those of you in Kansas that are concerned please go to this link on our company website: http://fig.com/news-coverage.html
We will be staying on top of the story and updating our patients as much as we can. For now fig. Overland Park is operating and we are planning to appeal the Kansas Board of Healing Arts ruling because “regrettably, with this decision, doctors and patients in Kansas will lose access to one of the latest advances in cosmetic medicine.  We believe that with more information and forthcoming research, this decision will be a temporary one." -- Dr. John Hiebert, M.D., F.A.C.S. Medical Director and Principle, fig. Overland Park.

by Denali38, Aug 21, 2007 10:05PM
To: adm16265
I appreciate you offering to help.  I went in for a 2nd evaluation at the Chesterfield location and was extremely frustrated when the nurse measured me differently than before I had started my treatments.  I asked her to check my chart because they had marked on there where they had measured me and she refused.  It was as if she was purposely trying to get smaller measurements and wasn't acting as an advocate for me, even though she stated that was part of her job.  So, it's going back to the board of review and I am waiting for the verdict.  I have been scammed and I wish I had seen these posts before I started my treatments in July of '06.  I don't think the first report to the BBB was issued until Sept of '06.  I know the treatment has worked for some, but it hasn't for me.  Advanced LipoDissolve/Fig. told me it doesn't work on everyone and told me they had a 100% money back guarranty.  Well, it hasn't worked for me so I am expecting my money back and I won't stop until they honor their word.  adm16265, if you want to email me- ***@****.  Thanks!

by adm16265, Aug 22, 2007 10:50AM
To: Denali38
I am sorry to hear that you are so discouraged with your experience at fig. Here is information for you to get in touch with someone who handles refund requests here at the corporate level specifically for the location you go to:

Megan Horsfall
314-743-5476
Megan.***@****

Feel free to call her or write her your story and she can help you further. Also if you still feel your nurse wasn't acting as an advocate for you or she treated you unfairly. Feel free to tell Megan or I more about that situation. Look to my profile on this message board to see how to contact me.

Thanks.

by amiz66, Aug 23, 2007 01:52PM
To: LipoDissolve Complications
I recently had lipo dissolve and suffered serious complications. I am a healthy 33 yr. old female weighing 135 lbs. at 5'7". I had 50cc of lipo dissolve injected into each thigh, for a body total of 100cc. About an hour after the procedure I began to feel very sick and in extreme pain. All I could do was lay down. The swelling and inflammation was intense as was the pain. That evening I began having difficulty breathing, my chest began to contract and tighten, my limbs went numb and tingled, my fingers curled. I told my husband I could not breathe, he called 911. Paramedics came decreased my heart rate and slowed my breathing. Later that evening I felt very nauseated and my chest hurt badly. I needed to use the restroom, my husband helped me walk, next thing I remember I woke up on the bathroom floor in convulsions and couldn't breathe, my family looking over me, saying "sit her up". I was white as a ghost, drenched in sweat. I slept sitting up. The next morning I would pass out 2 more times, with help walking, trying to get to and from the restroom. The swelling is so intense my skin is stretched to the max and stretch marks have formed. I can barely walk and I get winded very easily just trying to move. I feel dizzy and nauseated. This has been the most horrible ordeal I have ever been through and has scared me and my family to death. I just pray to god I haven't caused permanent damage.

by adm16265, Aug 23, 2007 02:34PM
To: amiz66
I am sorry your experience was not a pleasant one! Have you contacted the clinic where you had your treatments done and talked to them about this situation? Where did you go?

by jamoore, Aug 23, 2007 04:54PM
To: adm16265
Advanced LipoDissolve a.k.a fig advertises on radio, television and magazine "guaranteed" results.  I would be interested in  knowing how many times people have been refunded their money because they did not get results or had a reaction to the injections?

by adm16265, Aug 24, 2007 10:29AM
To: jamoore
Our patients' safety and satisfaction are of the upmost importance. For those patients who do not respond to our Advanced LipoDissolve procedure, fig. offers a guaranteed results program. The percentage of people that see no results or have an allergic reaction is a very small portion of our patients. Most of our patients are excited about their results and their reactions stay within the normal expectations.  

by jamoore, Aug 28, 2007 03:03PM
To: adm16265
If, as you state your patients' safety and satisfaction are of the upmost importance, and if patients do not respond to your Advance LipoDissolve procedures, or had allergic reactions and you offer a guarantee, then how do I go about getting a refund for the $6,000 I paid?  Since January 2007 I have been asking for a face to face meeting with your Medical Review Board,  But it hasn't happened. While I understand that "most" of your patients are excited about their results, it clear that not everyone responds in your precedure in the same way, I for one got no results, in fact I lost 5 pounds, but I increased in size after 12 treatments, I had allergic reactions, health issues and a tremendous amount ofdiscomfort. I would think that a person's "Normal Expectation" would be to expect a refund under your "guarantee". When radio, television and newspaper ads all claim "guaranteed results" why is it so difficult to get a refund under very reasonable conditions?  Plain and simple, just tell me what are the steps I need to take to make this happen?  Please don't beat-around-the-bush with a canned reply, just assist me in getting my money back.

by adm16265, Aug 28, 2007 04:29PM
To: jamoore
I am sorry to hear that you are not satisfied with your experience at fig. In order to begin the refund process you just need to contact one of our Patient Relations Coordinators. If you click onto my name "adm16265" I have listed a contact person for each of our locations. Go ahead and contact Jamie Baker, as she is the manager of this department. I will tell her to be expecting your call and we will get this issue resolved for you as soon as possible. Since I don't know your real name I will give her "jamoore" so please refer to that when you call. Thank you.

by kitsbabe, Aug 29, 2007 01:18AM
To: ang4747
i have a similar experience with ang4747. i've never had hives nor any allergies in my entire life but on my 2nd lipodissolve treatment i had hives all over my body. like ang4747, i took pics of the hives too and i told the clinic i went to about my allergic reaction. They told me there's no known allergic reaction to the lipodissolve treatment which now i realize is so untrue. i did not go for the 3rd treatment anymore. they told me to just take anti-histamine and the hives will go away soon. i don't trust what the doctor was telling me anymore and would like to ask any doctors here or those patients who had the same allergic reaction if indeed these hives will go away. i just don't want to have these hives for the rest of my life.

by adm16265, Aug 29, 2007 09:13AM
To: kitsbabe
I have gone to our medical professionals before with a questions similar to yours that was asked by another patient.  They sugges taking an Anti-histamine such as Zyrtec or Claritin (over the counter). These have the same effects as Benadryl without the drowsiness and will help with any itching, burning, hives and overall swelling issues. Many of our patients have taken this advice with beneficial results. If you have any other questions please feel free to ask!

by nellieg, Sep 05, 2007 02:03PM
To: all
Is there a specific on-line small claims to file?  

I am not really waiting to see if they respond.  I have filed a complaint with BBB and thinking of doing the consumerxchange.com as well.  I am experiencing all the same issues and just want my money back!  

It is b.s. - I never would have went ahead with the treatments if I knew getting my money back was not an option.  Even though I was told while signing the contract that if I am not satisfied, I would get my money back!

by adm16265, Sep 06, 2007 12:55PM
To: nellieg
Hi Nellieg-
Are you a patient with fig.? If you are, have you initiated the review process to see if you are in fact a candidate for a refund? If you click on my screen name, you will see I have listed contacts for patients who have an issue they would like to discuss. Please feel free to contact one of these patient relations coordinators and they will assist you in getting into the formal review process. I hope this helps. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. Thanks!

by tootsie55, Sep 09, 2007 05:58PM
To: all
You also need to realize that these companies use an outside financing company to fund treatments.  That means filing disputes, showing proof that you DIDN'T receive treatments, and waiting for a ruling.  If you recieved treatments, their point of view is that you owe for them.  If you DID get the treatments, any refunds have to come from the company, and the financing agency won't help out.  In other words, really check the wording on the contracts you sign, and be prepared for a battle to get your funds back!  Know what you are signing, both for treatment and financing!

by HiveGirl , Sep 11, 2007 03:14PM
To: all
I had several treatments.  Had severe reactions, so bad I would go out the back door instead of back through the lobby.   I stopped the treatments because the swelling would last so long.  No noticable improvement.  Now I have random hive outbreaks.  I have been to the ER twice.   I'm on antihistimines everyday now.    

by adm16265, Sep 11, 2007 04:04PM
To: HiveGirl
I'm sorry to hear about your reactions to treatment. Unfortunately a small percentage of the population does have an allergic reaction to Lipo Dissolve. Have you gone back to the location where you were treated and talked to them about your reactions? I would make sure your clinic knows about these reactions as they may have suggestions to help you.

by tcj, Sep 12, 2007 09:36AM
To: adm16265
my local news told us that this procedur has been banned in kansas due to the medication not being fda approved. what will happen now? i have been approved for my full refund but are you going to file bankruptcy and give me my money back? what can be done at this point?

by adm16265, Sep 12, 2007 04:42PM
To: tcj
Please visit this link to a recent article:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-09-10-lipodissolve_N.htm?csp=34

You can be assured that fig. is not going out of business.  If you have been approved for a refund, you will still receive one.  The center in Overland Park is still open and will remain open.  Today, lipodissolve is not prohibited in the state of Kansas.  Until the regulations go into effect, if at all, we will continue administering lipodissolve in the Overland Park center.  But it’s important for you to know that fig. will not violate regulations imposed by any state medical board.

Like the Board, we want the best for our patients, but we don’t believe this ruling advances the practice of medicine in Kansas. People in every other state in the country have access to lipodissolve and doctors are free to prescribe it as they see fit. Kansas patients should not lose this valuable procedure.

Continue your normal treatment schedule as we work out this issue with the Board.

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

by reenreen, Sep 13, 2007 10:14AM
I had 6 treatments done on love handles and lower stomach at Aestheticare Medi-Spa in Leawood.  They were SO painful. If I would  have known how painful it was I would never have done them!  I actually gained inches in the end  and still weighed the same).  I will say though that they gave me a full refund with no problems.  I do still have at lease one nodule still left in my side (it's been over a year now).  Was wondering if there is a class action suit going on?

by adm16265, Sep 13, 2007 10:32PM
To: ALL
For those in Kansas that were worried... YEAH! Court Decides in Favor of Lipo Dissolve Procedure:

(Overland Park, KS) – Fig., the market leader and exclusive provider of the
Advanced LipoDissolve â„¢ procedure heralded a decision late this afternoon by a Shawnee County District Judge allowing Kansas doctors to continue prescribing and administering the lipo dissolve procedure.  The court action today overturns an August decision by the Kansas Board of Healing Arts which would have prohibited the treatments except in the case of clinical research.  

The ruling issued by District Court Judge David E. Bruns today reverts back to an original measure, proposed by the Board in April, which provided for doctors in private practice to administer lipo dissolve. Today’s court decision reaffirms the Board’s earlier recommendation by clearing the way for doctors to continue to practice medicine as they see fit.  

Plastic surgeon John M. Hiebert, MD, the petitioner in this action, commended the court decision today.

“We believe this to be an excellent and fair ruling, one that will serve the health interests of the people of Kansas,†said Dr. Hiebert, Fig’s Medical Director. “This decision reinforces the Boards’ intent and our fervent desire to elevate the standards of care in the administration of lipo dissolve, something fig. has have done since its inception.† 

Hiebert added, “this is an important first step and I look forward to working with the Board to educate and help establish best practices in this area of healthcare.â€


About fig.
Fig., the leader in medically supervised body shaping, operates and manages 15 body shaping centers throughout the United States.  Under the direction of leading, board certified plastic surgeons, fig. provides individualized body shaping services to tens of thousands of patients.  Fig.’s highly trained medical staff uses the latest medically supervised body shaping technologies like Advanced Lipodissolveâ„¢ and Personalized Body Management, to help each patient achieve their ideal shape.  Fig. is headquartered in St. Louis, Mo., and employees over 500 people across the country.  For additional information please visit http://www.fig.com.

by ryzma, Sep 14, 2007 04:22PM
Wow!  I see I'm not the only one who thinks this Lipo Dissolve **** is a racket and that others have had a terrible time with Fig.  I have been round and round with Fig trying to get my refund since the beginning of June.  I finally got tired of leaving messages for Jamie Baker (since she never returns phone calls) so I did file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau.  They were able to get a response stating that I was approved for the refund.  That was at the end of August and I still have not received anything.  Such false advertisement!  Seriously . . . they must think that people will just get frustrated and give up on getting their money - but DON'T.  I will keep on until I get my $4,000.00 back!!!

by tcj, Sep 15, 2007 09:29PM
To: all
I have rec'd 2/3rds of my money back and am still working on the other. I will keep you posted

by tcj, Sep 15, 2007 09:38PM
To: all
Sorry, I rec'd the money that I paid monthly but still have not rec'd the money I paid upfront. I paid 450.00 on one credit card and 350.00 on another. They (fig) says they credited both of those accounts July 18th but those accounts both say no they(fig) have not. I dont understant why they are trying to credit the cards I paid upfront with instead of just sending me a check. They got there money already so why does it matter? I am working with Tanya and she is being real helpful but she seems so confused as to why I have never rec'd the credits. She says that she has proff of the credits and is willing to do a confrence call with my creditcard companies. That's where we are at now. I emailed her Friday with the contact numbers to my credit cards and am waiting to hear back from her. I will keep you posted.  

by adm16265, Sep 17, 2007 10:05AM
To: ryzma
I am sorry that you are frustrated. If you have been approved for a refund you should receive it within 45 days. If you want to contact me directly (or through medhelp) then I can check on your refund status and resolve your concerns as soon as possible. I appreciate your patience and I will do all I can to help. Thanks.

Ashley
fig. Corporate

by TOOTHICK, Sep 17, 2007 08:25PM
To: WHOEVER
I WAS WONDERING HAD ANYONE TRIED TO DO INJECTIONS THEY SELF FOR 500 ON MESOONE.COM YOU CAN BUY LIPO DISSOLVE I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT SINCE NO ONE ON HER HAS HAD ANY SUCCESS I RATHER PAY THAT LITTLE AMOUNT AND IF IT DOES WORK I WONT BE TO MUCH AS A LOST PLEASE HELP ME IM DESPERATE

by adm16265, Sep 18, 2007 12:07PM
To: TOOTHICK
I would strongly discourage doing Lipo Dissolve treatments on yourself. It is very important that these treatments are performed and monitored by trained medical professionals. For someone who has no medical knowledge of the different layers of skin and fat on the body, self treating could be dentrimental. For example, if the injections were to go too far into the skin, it is possible to actually dissolve muscle, which is not good.

Please do not do these injections yourself. I also very much question the authenticity of the website you were looking into.

by praying1, Sep 24, 2007 12:05AM
I have so many emotions with this whole procedure.   I believe  I started this procedure back in in April of 2006.  I just need a little help to thin my thighs.  I am 5'2 -123lbs and very active.  I was hesitant to start but they just told me everything I wanted to hear. I would only need 3 sessions and the rest of it I could use on any other areas.   They told me the pain just would feel like a pinch and some swelling. I remember I was even told that this would be a 2 and 1 that it would help with the cellulite. Even with my hesitancy they went in for the kill and next thing I know I was handing my license to them with Care Credit.  However I felt nervous inside because this was alot of money 4000.00.  But how could I go wrong if the results were like they said it would be well worth it. And if I happen to be one of the few people it didn't work for, I could get my money back. Awesome.  My first treatment it was so bad I could barely sit and drive home, however what could i do at this point they said i had to finish all treatments before requesting any monies back.  After 4 treatments still no results. To make a long story short. I was basically told the cellulite, they thought at first it would help but they found out it doesn't. However they had treated a lot of patients before me, how are they just finding this out?  Then when I had no results she said well you typically don't see result this early.  But I thought to myself that is not what they told me.  Anyway I finished all my treatments with little to no changes. I went in last week for a refund the doctor said after my review that she was sorry it didn't work for me. So at this time I thought I was going to be issued a refund.She says the board will review and it takes up to 2 mths. Well this experience has been awful and worst thing I am just finding out that all my life and right before this process my blood pressure was about 80 over 60.  Now I went in for my annual and they said i was at 120 over I can't remember. I was amazed. I didn't make the connection until i found a website for kvbc-tv-las vegas that did an article regarding fig fka advance lipo and it has reported that patients stated it caused  high blood pressure.  I am furious. Also it said how difficult it was to get reimbursement and that if they got a check they would have to sign something saying they would not discuss their problems so many were reluctant to talk.  I am contacting an attorney on Monday. Since I have just found out about this I have not been able to sleep, i feel so stupid, embarrassed, and i might as well took $4000.00 and flushed it down the toilet, and now for my first time ever I am worried about my blood pressure. I need to let people know that  this is not right.

by adm16265, Sep 24, 2007 12:27PM
To: praying 1
I am sorry you are feeling frustrated with your current situation. As an employee of fig. I spoke with one our physician assistants and she has not heard anything about lipodissolve causing blood pressure issues. She is interested to know what article you read in regards to PCDC and its effects on blood pressure. Do you have a link for this story?

The other thing that she was confused about is your previous blood pressure. 80 for a systolic number is extremely low and usually people who have this low of blood pressure are extreme athletes.  Your new reading of 120 is not a bad blood pressure.  Today doctors like to keep their patient's blood pressure at 120/80 or below. She is interested in learning more about your blood pressure readings.

Where did you receive your lipodissolve treatments? As a fig. employee I am interested in helping you in any way that I can. Please let me know what I can to do help address your concerns. My profile contains contacts at fig. that will be able to help you also.

Ashley
fig. Corporate

by Kandygirl, Sep 24, 2007 01:52PM
To: butterflygrl
I also got LIPO DISSOLVE DONE AND I TOO GAINED WEIGHT! THEY TOLD ME IT WASN'T POSSIBLE TO GAIN WEIGHT ON THIS. I WENT FOR 6 TREATMENTS ALSO WHEN THEY TOLD ME ALL I NEEDED WAS @ 5. THEY WOULDN'T GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK EITHER. I TOO WAS JUST TRYING TO GET RID OF THE LOOSE BABY STOMACHE!! I WENT TO DR. LACONEY @ ANTI-AGING INSTITUTE THIS PLACE IS A JOKE!!!!!!!! I DON'T ADVISE THAT ANYONE EVER GET LIPODISSOLVE!!! IT'S A WASTE OF YOUR MONEY!

by Kandygirl, Sep 24, 2007 02:24PM
OH YEAH DR. LACONEY IS IN HOUSTON, TX! I FORGOT TO ADD THAT PART!

by praying1, Sep 24, 2007 05:06PM
To: adm16265
Thank you for your concern.  I found the website from www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20897076.  Also at msnbc.msn.com  they stated that in Brazil that the FDA has banned it in that country.  Do you know why? I am nervous to find out of any long time effects.

I am going to contact my last doctor to find out exactly my last b/p I am not sure how far it would have been before I had started treatments.  And I too asked about it but they thought it was really good.

Thanks again.

by kitsbabe, Sep 25, 2007 01:12AM
are the hives resulting from lipodissolve  permanent?  i have breakouts everyday and i've been taking anti-histamine everyday for a month now. just by using loofah or scrub on my body whenever i take a shower, the hives start coming out. i was never allergic to anything but now even taking a shower is dreadful because afterwards i'm red and itchy all over. the anti-histamines are just temporary relief and i'm scared of any side effects if they are taken everyday like what i am doing, that's worsening the problem. can someone please recommend a treatment or medication that will put an end to these breakouts?

by atlanta33, Sep 25, 2007 08:07AM
To: Everyone
Has anyone had severe stomach pain and or ulcers after receiving treatments? After my fourth treatment I started having severe pain (burning) in my stomach. It feels like an ulcer (based on what I have been reading).  I have never had an ulcer. I am not sure if the two are related, but I have never had this kind of pain/burning in my stomach before the injections and after reading all the posted info. I am concerned. I am having my loves and back treated every two weeks and  get 40cc each treatment.

by adm16265, Sep 25, 2007 09:44AM
To: praying1
Thank you for the story link, I will be sure to send it to our medical professionals.

And to answer your question, the reason that LipoDissolve was banned in Brazil was because people were selling it over the counter and injecting themselves in gyms etc. This is obviously not safe practice and therefore better for Brazil not to have access. When injected by trained professionals the success rates are excellent.

Please keep us informed about what you find out in regards to your blood pressure.

Ashley
fig. Corporate

by adm16265, Sep 25, 2007 10:49AM
To: kitsbabe
I spoke with a physician assistant here at fig. regarding your concerns and she said if you are experiencing hives daily it is most likely not from the lipodissove injections. Typically when a patient gets hives following treatment it will appear within the first few days after treatment.  Once the hives are treated they should not continue to occur except following additional lipodissolve treatments. She said it definitely would not continue on a daily basis for a period of months.  

If you continue getting hives regularly following your showers you should look into the shampoo or soaps you are using. You may be responding to these products or a new detergent or perfume with an allergic reaction.  If your hives continue I would recommend that you follow up with a doctor or an allergist to see what is causing your allergic reaction.  

I hope this helps. If you have any additional questions, I will be happy to get answers for you!

Ashley
fig. Corporate

by Ashley52, Sep 26, 2007 07:57AM
I had lipodissolve in Scottsdale almost a year ago to my abdomen.  I discontinued the treatments after 3 because I had such a severe reaction to them.  I nearly passed out in the car while driving after my 3rd treatment.  It took forever, but I did finally get a refund for half the treatments less a "service charge".  I'm not so much upset about the money as I am the fact that I still have itching and discoloration in that area.  In order to get a refund, I had to sign a release that I would never sue them.  Not sure if that would stand up in a class action lawsuit though.  If anyone knows of a class action, I would like to hear about it so I could join in.
I asked a dr. (on medhelp I think) if liposuction would remove the offending material and stop the itching.  He suggested that I contact an allergist instead of a plastic surgeon.  I would be interested to hear what the fig. representative has to say about itching that continues a year after the treatments.  It is definitely the compound because it is only at the site of the injections.

by Liz0224, Sep 26, 2007 07:08PM
To: ALL
I had only 4 visits to the Scottsdale location and it was a nightmare.  From the first visit I was shocked at the pain and swelling.  I also had to be revived with smelling salts and had migraines along with extreme nausea.  At each visit, the nurses kept saying, "try just one more time"  They said this each of the four times knowing that I was having severe allergic reactions.  According to my doctor, this is a clear cut case of malpractice.  They also told me that I had to continue the abuse till the end for a refund.  What kind of medicine are they practicing?!!!  I have been promised a full refund that never came and now they want to refund 50%!  I said no and have written to the AZ Medical Board.  I am also going to meet with an attorney to decide between a class action suit or just a personal one.  I have offered them for months to have me go away quietly with just an apology and a refund and they declined.  This will be the biggest mistake they have ever made.  I guess they did not think I was serious.  If anyone want to become involved in a suit to recover damages, please email me.  If this was a case of just not seeing results and getting frustrated early than I can understand why they want people to finish prior to refunding.  However, when someone is having serious reactions and they keep pushing the patient to go forward than that is just plain medical malpractice.

by notsureyet, Sep 26, 2007 07:36PM

by notsureyet, Sep 26, 2007 07:43PM
To: ALL
WELL, I HAVE HAD 2 TREATMENTS SO FAR AND I PERSONALLY THINK IT IS WORKING SO FAR. THE FIRST TIME I WENT I GOT 20CC AND YES IT DID HURT ALOT.THE SECOND TIME I WENT I ONLY GOT 10CC. I WAITED 1 MONTH IN BETWEEN BOTH TREATMENTS.I GOT 3 AREAS DONE AND I AM ONLY PAYING 3 PAYMENTS OF $333.00. I GUESS IT DOESNT WORK FOR EVERYONE THE SAME. FOR ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T LIKE IT I HOPE YOU ALL THE BEST IN GETTING ALL YOUR MONEY BACK.

by Ashley52, Sep 26, 2007 08:08PM
To: notsureyet
It's not just a question of wanting our money back.  For some of us, there has been irreparable damage which we may not even know the extent of yet or for many years. The company here is acting irresponsibly when they encourage patients to continue treatments when they are obviously having severe allergic reactions.

by kbg, Sep 28, 2007 11:05PM
I couldn't even read the whole thread.  I was just investigating "fig" after seeing commercials.  I've done lipo years before I had my one child and apparently the stress of my father dying has caused me to gain 15 lbs on my 5/2" frame.  I normally weigh about 105, now it's 115-120.  If you're spending this much, why not get real liposuction???  The discomfort from this procedure may last a week and you may wear a body contouring "stocking" for 6 weeks but you're done.  Nobody knows you've had anything done.  You get pain meds, you get anesthesia, you get a good dr., and proven results!  I am not even going to consider this procedure, EVER.  Real liposuction is great, if you have a great dr.  

by Liz0224, Oct 01, 2007 06:00PM
To: ALL
Here is a link for a news ch 3 warning!!  Also, I just got off the phone with the AZ Medical Board who has opened up an investigation!  If you have any concerns about the reactions you have had, please contact them in AZ.  
http://www.lipotreatmentfacts.org/downloads/FDAStatementHealthline3_09212007.pdf

by adm16265, Oct 02, 2007 09:57AM
To: ALL
I don't understand why people stand behind the FDA like the drugs that they approve come without risks. In the last few years alone there have been over 14,615 recalls of food and drug products.

I'm not saying that regulation is unnecessary, but I'm just trying to let everyone know that just because the FDA has approved something, doesn't mean it comes without risk. Do your research and make a decision that is in your best interest rather than letting your decision be swayed by unsupported evidence.

We also shouldn’t be so naïve to think that money has nothing to do with gaining approval for things with the FDA.

by Liz0224, Oct 02, 2007 10:06AM
To: ALL
The last posting was by a FIG employee!!  No one is nieve enough to think just because it is approved by the FDA that there is no risk.  However, we count on American Corp. to follow the guidlines!  It is not your job to decide if the guidlines are correct!  I know your company will be doing lots and lots of damage control now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Good luck.  To tell patients that they need to continue with their allergic reactions to your medication to qualify for a refund is Disgusting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Liz0224, Oct 02, 2007 10:33AM
To: ALL
http://www.realself.com/plastic_surgery/liposuction/lipo_dissolve.html

The above web link is another forum where people like us are posting.  Its the same story over and over again.

by adm16265, Oct 02, 2007 12:07PM
To: Liz0224
You're right Liz, I am a fig. employee. I have been present on this blog for a while now and I have never tried to hide the fact that I am a fig. employee. In fact my profile and previous blogs here clearly state that. Most people on this blog already know that, as I have been in contact and helped many of them with their questions.

I find it fascinating that people feel that they should get a refund after receiving prescribed medical treatment. When is the last time anyone has heard of a doctor, plastic surgeon or any medical professional giving a refund for treatment, plastic surgery, botox, or any other medical treatment? You should expect to pay for medical treatments received. It is a prescription that was dispensed to you. I am sorry you were one of the few that had an allergic reaction, but or this reason, as you stated, you were approved for a refund for the treatments you could not finish. However you refused this offer for refund, as you also stated in a previous post.

by Liz0224, Oct 02, 2007 12:21PM
You are very wrong in your assessment of what happened.  I had reactions from the get go and only went to the clinic FOUR times.  Each time complaining of severe reactions and your staff witnessed most of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  They had to use smelling salts and saw the sweat beading off my small 5'4" 117 lb frame.  The staff said try just "one more time" and "just one more time" and "just one more time" until I could not take it anymore.  How irresponsible!  They even called in back up from other staff to catch me as I was passing out!  You offer refunds for those disatisfied with results but demand those of us sick from the treatments continue until the end to qualify!  You are not even refunding those people either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Also, they were "double dosing" without my knowledge until they said they would stop that.  Then, they stopped that procedue of double dosing for everyone after I left.  You want me to pay for something that made me sick and your staff preasured me to keep doing.  

by airica1055, Oct 05, 2007 02:47PM

by airica1055, Oct 05, 2007 02:48PM
To: butterflygrl

My name is Erica Ware.  I actually got your email address from a blog on Lipodissolve.  I began receiving treatments in Overland Park, Kansas in September 2006 in my upper and lower stomach and my arms.  I was working with a personal trainer and dieting at the time, so looking back, I realize now that I was seeing inch loss from the exercise and diet, not the injections.  In October, one day out of the blue, I broke out into hives.  I visited my doctor who asked if I had taken any new medications, but I did not mention Lipodissolve.  After reading the blogs, I realized now that it was most likely an alergic (allergic) reaction.

After my 9th injections, my husband's job relocated us to New Jersey in January 2007.  As you may know, Lipodissolve does not have facilities in New Jersey or anywhere on the East Coast.  So unless I came back to the OP area for vacation, I could not finish treatment.  I never did make it back to my follow-up to do my measurements and take pictures after the 9th injections.  I noticed around March, that I started to gain weight like never before.  I had rolls of fat where I never did before.  My arms are bigger than my husband's arms now.  I have not made drastic changes to my diet, so I am wondering "what is going on?"

My husband said my stomach and arms to date are worse than before I started the Lipodissolve.
I never made a connection between the weight gain or the hives until I recently visited Kansas City in August.  It was coincidental that a friend mentioned to me that there was a news story on Fox about a possible class action suit against Lipodissolve.  I was in total denial.  But a lot of what had been on my mind about the current state of my body surfaced.  So the day before I flew back to New Jersey, I called what is now "Fig" and told my story.  I was asked if I wanted a refund off the bat.  Strange!  I asked if they were receiving a lot of refund requests, she immediately answered, no.  She said that before I could even be considered, I would have to come in for a follow-up so that they could assess whether I would be eligible for a refund.  I told her I was flying out the next morning.  She said she could not get me in before my flight.  She told me to call and talk to someone in accounting the next morning and she would explain that I moved and that my circumstances prevented me from finishing treatment.  Never did she mention the weight gain or my hive incident.  I made the call and during the last week in August, I was submitted for a refund.  I was told it would take 90 days.  

So here I am today, 20 pounds more than I was last year when I started, and after reading many blogs on refund requests, I am wondering how much luck I am going to have with Tonya at the corporate office concerning my refund.

I wanted to thank you for your honesty.  And to let you know that there is a contact with the Kansas Attorney General to file a class action suit.  The contact is Special Agent Webster at 785-368-8439 If you have any advise or updates, please let me know.

I am starting an exercise program today and hopefully I will be back to normal again in a few months.

Thanks,

Erica Ware

by consumer3, Oct 07, 2007 05:09PM
To: ALL
I find mixed emotions coming from reading all these posts.  On the one hand, I'm relieved that it's not just me who's having problems with the procedure, but at the same time, I feel like this situation may very well be hopeless.  I began treatments just over 12 months ago.  The shots, swelling, and pain didn't bother me so much, but when it appeared as though my weight was steadily increasing each weigh-in, I became a little concerned.

After 7-8 treatments (since I had different ones done on different parts at different times), I noticed I had gained 6 pounds and was getting very discouraged.  I mentioned to my gyn that I was concerned.  I was maintaining a very low-fat diet (about 20g or less per day) and working out (a combination 20 min. cardio and weights) SIX days a week and was actually still gaining.  She had me tested for thyroid and I was on the high end of normal.  I then went to a specialist, but the test came back well within normal range.  Apparently, it wasn't thyroid.  Unfortunately, sinc e then, I've gained even more weight.  I topped off at 15 lbs over where I was when I started.  I maintained a food journal and continued exercise, so there's no reason for me to be gaining (even if I had maintained my weight from last February, I'd be happy).  

What's odd about all this is that, I can tell my lower stomach has gone down..but my pants don't fit any better.  One of the questions I had after I started that I never did ask was, if you ever do gain weight, do other areas get bigger?  I never did get an answer to that (my fault, though....I still haven't asked).  I wanted to wait before going back to LipoDissolve center until I started losing weight again, but I still haven't.  I've now tried every diet, pill, and regime on the market.  I'm taking in fewer than 1000 calories, 40 grams of fat, and 30 grams of carbs each day...no reason I shouldn't be losing at least a little bit.  And yet....nothing.

15 seems to be the magic number here.  I'm seeing several women with this number on their belts.  There's a lot of talk of refunds and lawsuits, but before we get to that, there are a couple of important things to consider:  is there anything we're doing to make us gain that weight (a food journal is the best way to figure that out...don't change your behavior..just write it down...you might be surprised).  Is it only certain areas where we're gaining, or is everyone gaining that magic 15 at the end?  That's a very important question to ask if anyone who is not receiving a refund (who believes entitled to one) is considering litigation.  If 15 lbs is what everyone is gaining, is there a case here?  What I wondered is, is there something in this medication that makes gaining weight easier..and getting it off harder?  If I were creating a weight loss alternative with a money back guarantee, knowing that it would be likely to gain weight, I would make "no weight gain" part of that guarantee.  This is not to start a conspiracy theory, mind you.  However, I know the ins and outs of business and this would be a wise business decision.  Personally, I have never had this much trouble taking off even just a little bit of weight, so I wonder if something is going on here. (and I am not an unreasonable person...I wouldn't have even had a problem with gaining the 15 lbs if I could take it off with diet and exercise, but that hasn't been the case)

Finding the common denominator is of crucial importance, so if you have had an experience similar to mine, I'd like to know.

by scott1461, Oct 07, 2007 05:41PM
To: all
it seems as if most everyone that is unhappy with their treaments is complaining abou thtis FIG place and also they are complaining about treatments in their lower body. has anyone had treatments in their neck or chin that they can tell me about one way or another, especially at some place other than FIG? I have signed up to get these treatments at medsculpt in tysons corner, virginia and have not found any negative postings abou this place yet so i am cautiously optimisitic.   does anyone have an experience at medsculpt that you can share, either positive or negative?

by conigirl, Oct 08, 2007 10:07AM
To: aliciajoleen
I called for a refund they told me that i had to do a whole nother session before i could even think of a refund. I still have one treatment left from the session i purchased back in 1-07. It made me feel really sick, and no results that i could tell. I just wanted my money back that they said they guaranteed. This took place in overland park ks

by captain23, Oct 08, 2007 01:07PM
To: conigirl
Hi Connie,
I work for fig. and want to make sure you have been taken care of. Have you been back to your clinic for your re-evaluation for measurements to see your results? I suggest you do this at your earliest convenience. You can look at your before and after photos and see measurements to see how many inches you've lost.

by conigirl, Oct 09, 2007 11:19AM
To: anyone
I have one more treatment to get and from no results on the others except brusing,itching,knots,and just plane not feeling good i don't want to go back but i do want a refund. Fig told me i had to finish all my treatments is this so? I'm kind of scared not knowing much about the injection and the out come down the road. I don't even trust the FDA drugs so I don't take anything except all natural products. Please can someone help a girl out.

by conigirl, Oct 09, 2007 11:20AM
To: anyone
I have one more treatment to get and from no results on the others except brusing,itching,knots,and just plane not feeling good i don't want to go back but i do want a refund. Fig told me i had to finish all my treatments is this so? I'm kind of scared not knowing much about the injection and the out come down the road. I don't even trust the FDA drugs so I don't take anything except all natural products. Please can someone help a girl out.

by captain23, Oct 09, 2007 02:41PM
To: conigirl
Yes you will need to go through with the complete treatment series in order to qualify for a refund. At fig. the staff have guaranteed you results along as you go through with the complete treatment. It wouldn't be fair if everyone had 1 or 2 treatments and then gave up on it and expected a refund, would it?
I am unfamiliar with your exact case, so i think the best thing for you to do is make an appointment, go into the clinic and talk with your provider. They can walk you through your options. Perhaps after looking at your before and after pictures you may be suprized by the results. Your provider is a trained professional and can give you the best advice about treating the discomfort or how to get the refund process started. If you need further help you can contact our manager of patient relations at  314-743-5553 or curtis.***@****

by HiveGirl , Oct 10, 2007 07:58AM
To: mitchel
Thanks Erica Ware for the information.

Mitchel said he was processing my refund on 9/10.  The board would meet within a few days and he would call back 9/17-18.  When I didn't hear from him I called him on 9/20.   He said the board must not have met, sometimes they don't for some reason.  Did he say he would call me, now he doesn't remember saying that.  He probably won't call me, he'll just send a letter in the mail after the board meets.  Today is 10/10/2007 and I have not yet received a letter.  

by adm16265, Oct 10, 2007 09:50AM
To: HiveGirl
HiveGirl~ I am an employee of fig. and if you give me your full name I can check on the status of your refund and make sure that's it being taken care of. I went to Mitchel about your blog but because I didn't have a name, he couldn't look you up in the system. I'd be happy to help in any way that I can.

by airica1055, Oct 10, 2007 03:11PM
To: ALL
ATTENTION!!!!!!
As a result of my blog above in regards to the class action suit.

I stand corrected, there is curently no class action suit with the state of Kansas for services provided in Kansas. But there is a current investigation being conducted by the Kansas Attorney General's office (Special Agent Webster) for lipodissolve services provided in the state of Kansas. So please feel free to call her if you have had bad experiences with Kansas Fig or any other Kansas Lipodissolve providers. It could possibly become a class action suit in the future.

And after talking with Special Agent Webster, she suggests that if you want to start an investigation on a Lipodissolve provider outside of Kansas, please, please, please, contact that State's Attorney General's office.

Hopefully this still encourages all of you that have been damaged in any way by a Lipodissolve provider to continue to seek justice!

Thanks,

Erica Ware

by renee54, Oct 16, 2007 07:56AM
To: all
I just came across this post.  Wow!  I had the exact opposite result.  I didn't go to fig, but I have heard of them.  There is not one in my area so I found another place that specializes in lipodissolve in maryland.  I was worried about the side effects and wondering if I would see results so I asked to speak with some of their patients.  They all had really great results and were pretty up front about the side effects and pain.  I was told that I would need about 3 treatments spaced 6 weeks apart.  I have completed 2 treatments so far, lost 3 inches and have not gained weight.  They gave me 100cc's of pcdc and I was given 76 injections on each side per treatment.  So far so good.  My last treatment is scheduled for later this month.

by adm16265, Oct 16, 2007 08:47AM
To: renee54
Congratulations and thanks for sharing your positive story!

by LolaBelle, Oct 28, 2007 10:49PM
To: All
I have several theories about the weight gain many have experienced.
     The first is pretty straight forward - since the injections are painful, people are naturally moving less during the day, so they are burning fewer calories in their typical daily activities, and are likely also doing less formal exercise.  Fewer calories burned = weight gain.  Over time, with repeated injections and pain, the weight gain can add up.
     Second theory  - a little more complicated.  These injections cause inflammmation, as well as pain.  Pain is stressful, raising cortisol levels, leading to insulin resistance and weight gain.  Inflammation is also tied to insulin resistance and weight gain.  Perhaps some patients should check their fasting insulin levels, and C -Reactive Protein levels (a marker of inflammation), before and after treatment.  Also check cholesterol levels - particularly triglycerides - and fasting blood sugar levels.  If those go up after treatments, then we'll have a pretty good idea that the treatment are affecting how your body uses insulin - and how the treatments are causing the weight gain.  Of course, decreasing  exercise and eating more carbs and sat fats would make those numbers worse as well, so be sure to keep up healthy eating and exercise, so it doesn't confuse the picture.

by kimmyh51, Nov 01, 2007 09:02AM
I am about to have this treatment but have to comment on a lot of the posts here...

a lot of you are saying things like "I was xkg overweight" or " I was only X overweight"

"overweight"

Did none of you read the info on lipodissolve? its not a weight losss solution

its a spot fat reducer

if youa re over weight diet or find a weight loss solution - dont ***** and moan about lipodisolve not working when its never been intended for weight loss anyway!

by TxSweetheart, Nov 10, 2007 10:27PM
To: ALL
I posted back in Aug when I had just completed my second treatment.  I did six sessions @ 2 weeks apart.  I have been finished for one month now.  The results are great.  I agree with kimmyh51, it is for treating spot areas and does not help with weight loss.  I did my banana rolls and thighs.  my thighs did not change much but my banana rolls have disappeared.  The results show up slowly.  I have a friend who did her stomach and said she did not see her final results until four months after she finished.  It is one year later for her and her fat rolls around her waist have not returned.  If you prepaid and had an allergic reaction you should get a refund because you paid in good faith and did not know you would be unable to take the shots, they should only charge you for what you completed.

by HiveGirl , Nov 27, 2007 04:46PM
To: ALL
this was on a KC news channel 11/26/2007
the complete broadcast can be found at:
http://www.kmbc.com/health/14696195/detail.html

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Kansas could be the first in the nation to drastically restrict the use of a popular weight loss procedure -- LipoDissolve. The Kansas Board of Healing Arts is taking action, but so far, LipoDissolve is still readily available.....
Ross is one of the local LipoDissolve patients who reported her experience to the Kansas Board of Healing Arts. Based on safety concerns, the board banned the use of LipoDissolve, except in cases of clinical research....."I believe it is dangerous. We don't know about the product. We don't know if it is safe in any amount, in any dose, in any strength. We're not waiting for a body count," said Mark Stafford of the Kansas Board of Healing Arts Legal Counsel.....Advanced LipoDissolve Center, now known as Fig, refused an on-camera interview to respond. But Fig issued a statement at the time of the court action, stating it's "clearing the way for doctors to continue to practice medicine as they see fit."...Eckerman reported that the court still has to make a final ruling on restrictions, and the Kansas Board of Healing Arts continues to hold hearings. ....Both clinics were asked for a response or to provide KMBC with satisfied clients. Both declined KMBC's requests.

by adm16265, Nov 28, 2007 12:12PM
To: ALL
I am an employee of fig. and I wanted to let you all to know a little more about us. We are currently in ongoing discussions with the Kansas Board of Healing Arts to educate and help establish best practices in this area of healthcare.  Fig. is in full compliance with the recent court ruling which allows Kansas doctors to continue prescribing and administering the lipodissolve procedure.  
Fig.’s applauds the Board’s desire to standardize the highest level of patient care, which was set forth in fig. centers from the very beginning.  

Fig. is confident in the procedures it offers to help patients achieve their beautiful shape, and fig.’s foremost priority is patient safety.  In fact, international clinical experience for more than a decade has shown lipo therapy performed with PCDC to be an effective treatment for many patients.

The truth is, fig. centers have performed more than 20,000 Advanced LipoDissolveâ„¢ treatments, and the incidence of poor patient experience is low. Each fig. patient is fully informed during their consultation and treatments of the normal, anticipated responses to Advanced LipoDissolve.  These responses are expected, and indicate that the treatment is working to break down that stubborn fat.  Some of these normal responses might include redness, tenderness, bruising and swelling.  

I encourage you to visit the center for a private consultation to learn more about fig.’s platform of services.

If anyone has anymore questions or concerns, please feel free to ask!

Ashley

by Stl_Girl, Nov 30, 2007 12:52PM
To: adm16265
Give me a break, fig. is a joke. I've heard the company is doing very poorly and they're even laying off a lot of their employees due to financial trouble. If you're in line for a refund...you're going to be there forever!

by Stl_Girl, Dec 04, 2007 12:32PM
To: ALL
http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2007/11/26/daily70.html

Wow I guess I heard right...The St. Louis Business Journal currently has a story online about Fig. laying off HALF of their Corporate office! No matter how they try to spin that one...it's not a good sign for the company! Are any patients going to get the refund they were promised? I HOPE SO!
I'm wondering what adm16265 has to say about this story...

by Stl_Girl, Dec 07, 2007 05:59PM
To: ALL
JUST GOT WORD THAT FIG. ANNOUNCED BANKRUPTCY TODAY! I guess there's the answer to all our questions!

by praying1, Dec 07, 2007 09:32PM
To: ALL
I just heard they went bankrupt. Isn't this amazing,  I got my letter that they will refund $2400.00 of my money to Care Credit once I sign the form and send it back. I guess not.  I am also wondering if we can get a response from adm 16265.  I do want to address some of the emails that talk about being overweight. Well during your consultation wouldn't they say  this procedure would not work for you until you are at this targeted weight. Anyway i guess like Stl_Girl said it best.  

by adrianne49, Dec 09, 2007 11:32AM
To: praying1
I'm guessing that adm16265 was part of the first round of layoffs at fig. that I read about in the StL Business Journal and that's why we haven't heard from her!  She deleted all the info about fig. from her MedHelp profile. I wouldn't defend fig. anymore either if they laid me off!

I would definitely not count on any refunds from this company...they are bankrupt after all! I heard the owner was just some rich foreign guy who had no medical background. I'm sure he took his millions and left the country!

I'm sorry to everyone who got ripped off!


http://www.myfoxstl.com/myfox/pages/Business/Detail?contentId=5159364&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=4.1.1

by adrianne49, Dec 10, 2007 05:11PM
To: ALL
http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2007/12/10/daily6.html

http://www.fig.com

by POdinKC, Dec 11, 2007 05:50PM
To: All
If anyone has/finds out any info about refunds or a class action law suit, please let me know.  I have sank $8000 and only had 5 (painful) treatments.

by sonia2715, Dec 11, 2007 06:24PM
To: all
has anyone ever considered HCG?  I started September 8th and by December 1st I had gone from a size 16/18 to an 8 and from 218 lbs to 183.  My frame is small so I still have fat to lose.  I will resume in the 2nd week of January.  

I was in the process of financing surgery in mexico when I discovered this.  This was not a joke.  If you ever want pictures I can show you.  This was such a blessing and I've spend a total of maybe $600 for injections and supplies and my body is totally reshaped and I have no visible cellulite... No kidding.

If you are interested, continue this blog or if you have specific question, send me an email to my inbox.  thanks.

by wadoolittle, Dec 13, 2007 03:38PM
To: All
Check out www.figattorney.com. Maybe they can help.

by adrianne49, Dec 13, 2007 03:47PM
To: ALL
Today fig. employees woke up to find that their paychecks were taken
BACK OUT of their bank accounts! I have a friend whose last paycheck
and severence, recieved Dec.10th was taken out of their account and
their checking balance is currently $0.

The check company took back the money for insufficient funds on fig.'s
part. There is also now a rumor from the check company that up to 2
months of pay could be taken back from employees. I don't know if
that's possible but employees are very angry about this whole situation
and there is really no one to talk to anymore at fig.

by registered_nurse, Dec 14, 2007 08:56PM
To: everyone in arizona
i went to this place called lipo now. they are so different than fig i couldnt believe how fig misinformed me of so many things. I asked them why they didnt advertise and hows come i didnt find them before i went to fig. The owner of lipo now is also a nurse. they are so cool and get awesome results in  just 1-3 treatments because, she says time and nutrition is the key. I remember reading in here how more people saw results months after they stopped their treatments. It makes sense if you think about it. this is supposed to be a natural process that permanently destroys fat cells and then over time our own defense mechanisms break the fat down into nano sized things so our body can get rid of it through our lymph system. She said because we were reinjected too soon, the process of getting the nanosized out of the body was interrupted by new fat from new treatment and it could never finish the process. I talked with actual patients while in the office, nead old town scottsdale. They said that
lipo now had educated them greatly into detoxifying their cells so the body can let go of fat. more on this later, i have to call the lady i met in the waiting room for more info.
this stuff does work, you just have to know what your doing. Plus the cost here is a fraction of what fig charged!!! 1-3 treatments instead of 6-9 treatments. the patient from liponow  said 6-9 treatments was totally unethical and unnecessary. she was very happy. carla

by illustr8too, Dec 20, 2007 09:23PM
To: STL or any future LIPO DISSOLVE patient
I wasted $4000!!!! treating two areas with lipo dissolve.  I went through 18+ series of injections in my legs and have nothing to show for it except an empty pocketbook and a sore ***.  I didn't lose inches as promised in fact I gained 1/4 " on each leg!  Thanks alot, I could have done that my self with the dollar menu at McDonalds!  On my last appointment I was told to give my body a rest for a few months & come back for final measurements--they supposedly have a money back guarantee....  Well I scheduled three months out like they said and guess what??? THEY HAVE FILLED BANKRUPTCY!!!
I have no idea how they can legally advertise else where but they are...  If you're considering Lipo Dissolve save yourself time & alot of money and just sit on a cactus and eat a few Big Macs and you'll get the same results in less time.

by illustr8too, Dec 20, 2007 09:27PM
To: STL or any future LIPO DISSOLVE patient
I wasted $4000!!!! treating two areas with lipo dissolve.  I went through 18+ series of injections in my legs and have nothing to show for it except an empty pocketbook and a sore ***.  I didn't lose inches as promised in fact I gained 1/4 " on each leg!  Thanks alot, I could have done that my self with the dollar menu at McDonalds!  On my last appointment I was told to give my body a rest for a few months & come back for final measurements--they supposedly have a money back guarantee....  Well I scheduled three months out like they said and guess what??? THEY HAVE FILLED BANKRUPTCY!!!
I have no idea how they can legally advertise else where but they are...  If you're considering Lipo Dissolve save yourself time & alot of money and just sit on a cactus and eat a few Big Macs and you'll get the same results in less time.

by butterflygrl, Dec 27, 2007 09:20PM
To: anyone
I have a question..........has anyone read anything posted from any of the people that worked at FIG who underwent the treatments themsselves??? Aren't they having the same problems we all are???
I mean I dont know about any of you but I know everytime I went in for my injections, the nurses, the receptionists, the appt setters behind the counters, the people in the office, the people pressuring us into treatments, etc.............always bragged to me about how they were getting treatments and how they were working,etc. I find that to be **** and I sure would like to hear from those people now that they are all without jobs and can REALLY say how they feel and what those injections did to them.

Anyone else wondering the same thing?


BTW- if there is anyone out there who did get their money back and was forced to sign that release form in order to get your refund............and then after the fact  after all the swelling went down, etc....SAW the damage those injections did to you and want to know if there is anything we can do now or is proceeding in legal action regarding it.........I sure would like to hear from you. Cause after my swelling went down..........besides the 20 lbs I gained from the shots........my lower stomach if so deformed due to the unevenness of the injections and them not knowing what they were doing in the beginning.........that I will never be able to wear a bikini again..........in fact it depresses me and I will never let anyone see my body anymore. its awful.......its pitted and lumpy all over. I dont know what to do or if I can do anything now.  but contact me at ***@**** if you can give me any info.
Thanks
Ang

by butterflygrl, Dec 29, 2007 04:36PM
To: dancerdarlin
I havent been on here in awhile but just read your post/comment to me . FIRST of all let me say my usual weight ( as I was referring to be my normal weight ) is 120 lbs and I'm sorry but for being 6 foot that is NOT overweight. So NO I was not overweight originally. BUT when I started FIG, I had quit smoking a year prior and had gained some weight and then I had loose belly fat from having a kid......which is the 40 lbs over my avg weight I was referring too. SO when I started I weighed 160- which my dear IS NOT OVERWEIGHT as you stated - for my height BUT was overweight for ME becaou shouuse I have never weighed that much and when I went into FIG i feel under the BMA criteria they have to qualify for treatments......if i had been over I would not have been considered and I knew I wasnt over I did the treatments because I was GUARANTEED they would get rid of the loose baby fat skin on my lower tumy from having kids ( HUGE LIE THEY TOLD ME) and tighten it ( another HUGE LIE).  SO sweetie maybe you should get your stories straight before you go shouting off at the mouth and telling someone they are OBESE in otherwords and need lap band . I was told at my final evaluation by the HEAD doctor, Dr. Heibert that I was lied to by the girls in the beginning about being able to tighten that loose skin, the only thing that would do that is a tummy tuck or actual lipo suction, not wheat they do. YEA NOW they tell me that after going thru all that pain. But anyway.......maybe you should have considered that when people say they are overweight, COULD actually mean overweight to them from what they are used to weighing and not necessarily overweight by site to others. Hmmmmmmmmmm IMAGINE that concept huh???

by butterflygrl, Dec 29, 2007 04:47PM
To: JENNIFER ROSE, Ang 4747 airica1055
Sorry all, I havent been on for a while, my mother passed away. Anyway........

airica1055-  I am interested in this class action law suit info you have..... Have you had any other takers interested??? QUESTION- I have also been talking to someone but I am trying to find a copy of the paper they had people sign in order to get their refunds. DOES ANYONE HAVE THAT??

JENNIFER ROSE-  I can take pictures of my own physical damage of what these shots have done to me and would be happy to post them. Anyone else willing too?  I am damaged for the rest of my life now because of these shots.

Ang4747 and airica1055 and Jennifer Rose-   I am truly interested in filing suit against this company for the permanent damage that has been done to my body and for the weight gain also. if you all are truly interested in finding people to go to the news, attorney generals office, etc..............I AM WITH YOU ALL.  so please contact me outside of here to discuss these issues further ok ***@****.
We need to join hands everyone on here and come together and go after this company for all the damage they have caused each and every one of us...............whoever is in.......email me referencing this forumm!

We need to act fast though.

by leila0955, Dec 30, 2007 02:10PM
To: all
If anyone has found out about a class action, please get in touch with me.  I spent $10K and had only completed maybe 1/4 of my treatments "due to the way my body was reacting to the injections".  I have not been able to find the jurisdiction where the bankrutpcy suit was filed.  I am thinking it should be where the home office is but it may not have been incorporated in Mo.  Does anyone know?  please contact me at ***@**** if anyone has any info.

by butterflygrl, Jan 03, 2008 07:29PM
To: leila0955 and ALL
The headquarters is in St louis I know but have you gone on the BBB website, they have some info on the company under advanced lipo dissolve and FIG. Also if you want to private msg me on here with your email, I can give you some websites that I continuously check into that has lots of info and complaints of people in the same situation.
ALSO- to all of you....I live in KC and I contacted FOX4 NEWS Problem Solvers nancy LEwis who has been doing alot of stories on FIG and the problems. And I asked her if anyone has metioned class action suits against the company because the women they interviewed spoke of it on the news cast. Nancy Lewis told me NO.........everyone is talking about it BUT NOONE IS ACTUALLY DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT! She said if we all want to get something done about the damage these shots have done to us and our bodies- permanent damage...........WE ALL HAVE TO COME TOGETHER AND STAND GROUND AND REALLY DO SOMETHING AND FILE A SUIT WITH ONE LAWYER. ALL OF US TOGETHER WILL GET RESULTS! I told her I have tried posting on here and other FIG complaint forumms to get people together and lets all do something, but noone will budge. YES I have talked to an attorney but one person cant do this alone.............I need others to back these complaints up and join in. I know we need to find people who have their papers they signed and papers signed if you got a refund back. THOSE papers people SAID NOTHING ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO DO ANYTHING IF PERMANENT DAMAGE WAS DONE TO YOUR BODIES!..... THEY CANT PREDICT DAMAGE AND WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR BODIES AFTERTHE FACT FROM THEIR NEGLIGENCE! THOSE PAPERS SIGNED MEAN NOTHING..........."WE" STANDING TOGETHER WILL GET SOMETHING DONE! Anyone with me?????????????????????

by butterflygrl, Jan 03, 2008 07:29PM
To: leila0955 and ALL
The headquarters is in St louis I know but have you gone on the BBB website, they have some info on the company under advanced lipo dissolve and FIG. Also if you want to private msg me on here with your email, I can give you some websites that I continuously check into that has lots of info and complaints of people in the same situation.
ALSO- to all of you....I live in KC and I contacted FOX4 NEWS Problem Solvers nancy LEwis who has been doing alot of stories on FIG and the problems. And I asked her if anyone has metioned class action suits against the company because the women they interviewed spoke of it on the news cast. Nancy Lewis told me NO.........everyone is talking about it BUT NOONE IS ACTUALLY DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT! She said if we all want to get something done about the damage these shots have done to us and our bodies- permanent damage...........WE ALL HAVE TO COME TOGETHER AND STAND GROUND AND REALLY DO SOMETHING AND FILE A SUIT WITH ONE LAWYER. ALL OF US TOGETHER WILL GET RESULTS! I told her I have tried posting on here and other FIG complaint forumms to get people together and lets all do something, but noone will budge. YES I have talked to an attorney but one person cant do this alone.............I need others to back these complaints up and join in. I know we need to find people who have their papers they signed and papers signed if you got a refund back. THOSE papers people SAID NOTHING ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO DO ANYTHING IF PERMANENT DAMAGE WAS DONE TO YOUR BODIES!..... THEY CANT PREDICT DAMAGE AND WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR BODIES AFTERTHE FACT FROM THEIR NEGLIGENCE! THOSE PAPERS SIGNED MEAN NOTHING..........."WE" STANDING TOGETHER WILL GET SOMETHING DONE! Anyone with me?????????????????????

by butterflygrl, Jan 29, 2008 07:11PM
To: jennifer Rose
I finally took pictures of what my lower abs look like now and how damaged it looks and uneven and discolored. I thought you had posted a few months ago asking about pics.were you still wanting them???

Ang

by TheresaH1957, Apr 24, 2008 06:05PM
To: leila0995 and All
My daughter and I started Lipo Disolve last March. I had lost fifty pounds and wanted to get rid of those last hard to get rid of places like my saddlebags, lower abdomen. I had an extreme amount of pain with the injections and soreness. I went through the process because I really thought it would work but instead I gained inches and weight. Now for some reason no matter how hard I try I cant the weight at all. It seems that I lose a few pounds and then they just come back on. I know that it sounds strange but I know how to lose weight right and it just doesnt seem to work any more. I did do the dispute resolution with Care Credit and they wrote off the money I owed them but I would definately be interested in filing suit against them for the pain and damadged the treatments caused.

Theresa

by carolsea, Apr 25, 2008 11:34PM
To: All
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/2007/12/17/story1.html?page=1

Friday, December 14, 2007
Fig. closes door on LipodissolveSemaan: Company burning through $100,000 a day; cash injection never materialized
St. Louis Business Journal - by Christopher Tritto

by phroggTX, May 08, 2008 06:35PM
To: butterflygrl
I have been trying to track down how to 'finish' the last 3 of the 6 treatments I paid for back in late 2006 ($6grand down the drain, now I see...) in Scottsdale.  I moved to Dallas and they kept promosing an offfice was going to open here.  I'm glad I didn't finish now that I see all the truly horrific damage this procedure and this company has caused. I too actually gained weight after only 3 treatments, my injection sites still are discolored and bruised, and I only wanted to get it to get rid of that last little bit of vanity fat.  Since the treatments those areas have actually grown and I have increased my waist size by 2 sizes around the middle.  Love handles and below the belly button fat is pronounced whereas before I could do serious dieting and get rid of it.  I have no recourse now it appears, since the company shut their doors.  No idea how to contact anyone about a refund of unused treatments, especially since I was told there is no expiration on them.  If you have some advice on where I can go to start a refund process let me know.  Thank god I happened across this blog today!!  I am right in the same boat as everyone else, increased weight and size, and oddly enough, increased blood pressure also.  Hives started shortly after the second treatment and have continued.  This is a nightmare - I truly feel for people who went through the entire regimen of 'treatments'.  How  did this pass medical oversight in the first place??!!
I am with you 100% on a class action lawsuit.  Let me know what has transpired and what I need to do.

by celinalamar, May 08, 2008 08:53PM
To: Butterfly
Hey Butterfly (& everybody else)

Sorry about your horrid experience.  I saw this on the news the other day and couldn't believe that these clinics were getting away with ripping people off like that!  I am glad you are all banding together. There is strength in numbers.  I have lost just about all the weight I wanted to lose.  Initially I wanted to lose 35 lbs but I decided to go for 10 more - I have so far lost 38 with the help of the b12/lipo injections and of course, sensible eating and exercise.  I also used a great book "The Diet Cure" and am taking the supplements indicated according to my scores on questionnaires.

Anyway, I wish you guys luck and hopefully some of this rif-raf can be weeded out.

Best of Luck!
Celi
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