Dr.Simeons Hcg Diet Group

[Eruaistaniel]

All: I did an apple day yesterday and lost 2 1/2 lbs.  I'm down 16 lbs in 22 days.

scare: No, I didn't waver from the protocol.  I've just got my period.  

[ubflossn]

well i'm in no way telling what's best but i can tell you what i ordered.  i got the 6pack of 1500iu hcg.  there's instructions that comes with your hcg supplies that will explain how to get the right concentration for how ever much you want per dose.  if you pick a dose in between something it's pretty easy to figure out.  the reason i ordered the 6 seperate vials was because i want to mix a fresh batch each week.  i know others have had pretty good luck with premixed syringes too so who knows what is best.  drugdelivery.ca is cheaper that's for sure.  you'll figure it out.  one thing to keep in mind.......drugdelivery charges a $30ship/handeling fee.  if you think you are going to need 2 rounds of this order it all at once.  i didn't because i was afraid the expiration dates would be a problem but they're plenty in the future so i wasted $30. twice.  i ordered a second supply and paid it agian.  just a lesson i've learned so hopefully others can save some cash!  good luck!

[mresearcher]

HELLO and goodmorning everyone,
i havent posted cause i was super busy yesterday. I'm down 17 pounds in twenty full days of vlcd today is day 21. it seems the weight loss has really slowed down for me. somedays no loss, some days .5 pound. In the beginning the weight was flying off!

My mom just did an apple day (she was at the same weight for 3 days) she lost 2 pounds overnight. Then the following day she did a half apple day (she made it up, had 3 apples and a normal dinner) and she lost another 2 pounds overnight. She's a vegetarian so the weight has been coming off SUPER SLOW.

Anyway i think im gonna try the half apple day today cause i've stayed the same for 2 days now and im getting tired of it. (i know im suppossed to wait till 3-4 days but i just cant, only have 2 weeks left!)

Scare d: i weigh my strawberries to 150 grams. its 56 calories.

Loo: hows the 40+ days going?? sounds like a yummy dinner you had last night!

[mresearcher]

YES... you must hibernate. i find it very difficult to be around others while they are ordering yummy food and snacking and nibbling. you're better off hibernating for a month or so, eat only your own food that you prepare (you cant trust restaurant portions and preparations) Its a few weeks of sacrifice for tremendous results.. after the first week or into the second week, you'll notice your craving dissipate and you'll be able to hang out in a social environment without cheating, and you'll be fine, If we can do it, YOU CAN TOO!  but expect to be tempted, expect to have urges and then you'll be better equipt to deal with them. Well, thats advice from me anyway, ive had a tougher time than others here (my cravings have been crazy).

Goodluck and try to stay away from eating events.. =)

[akelly]

I think I'm starting to get it, maybe I should just look up the word "ampule" I guess that is the same thing as vial....so you ordered a 6 pack for 6 weeks, and the 1500 is the amount in each ampule...And you could easily get a 200 injection for each day out of each ampule...200 x 7 =1400....yes? But it seems like you skip a day on this anyway so it should be plenty.
I'm debating on whether I want to order 2 packs of 6, it is a lot of shipping, but thats a lot of money too. If i get everything and then find I can't stick a needle in my belly cause i'm a wuss, i'll be pissed! i guess if i spend all this money, i'll probably do it!!
PS, If I'm wrong with how I'm figuring these numbers please someone tell me! :)
Thanks

[Lindaloo]

Hey M:  You're doing great . . the same thing happened to me . . . flying off in the beginning then the big SLOW DOWN!! . . . I guess that's how it works . . don't get discouraged because it all evens out in the end . . . Yea yummy dinner  . . . MY A55 . . . that's where it stayed!! I gained 2 lbs . . . so I've got 4 shots left and I'm going to be extra diligent . . .I took a shot today (I know we're suppose to skip Sat & Sun but I figured that 2lb gain needs some magic liquification substance) . . . I'm really hope I make it into the 130's by week end . . . wish me luck!! Maybe I should do an apple week (only kidding)!!

[ubflossn]

no, you're right how you figure it you should in the real world get 7.5 days out of one ampule/vial but you don't.  due to human error (sometimes it might not be exactly on the line on the syringe) and because the very last bit of solution is almost impossible to get out of the vial because the needle sticks up above the water line.  you pull it down so it's in but not in too far and..........well let's just say the very last bit stays in the vial.  so some is wasted.  on the 7th day i usually end up maybe at the 9 instead of the 10 on the 1cc syringe and have to borrow out of my next batch.  if it were me (had i known then what i know now) i would order 2 boxes of 6 right now.  that doesn't mean you'll need it......i don't know how much you have to lose but i knew i'd be wanting to lose about 50lbs so i should have looked into the future knowing i would be doing round 2 and just bought it up front.  as it is, i've ordered round 2 and i'm paying the $30 again.  it will all depend on how much you want to lose and what money you have at your disposal.  the shot is no biggie.  believe me............i freaked out the first time and sat there waiting for something terrible to happen.  it didn't.  i use the 1/2" needles in the tummy and it's a no brainer now.  you'll be a pro too!!

[upinAK]

Thanks for the advise, I finally made it thru my first vlcd yesterday and down 3lbs this morning!!!  I was really excited, I gained 4lbs during my 5 days of eating so hopefully the lbs will fly off this week.
How much are you trying to loose??

Is everyone using spices on their food??  I know people are trying to limit there salt intake, but is there a reason to limit any other spices??  I've been using lots for mesquite, chilies peppers, lemon and herbs...is that a bad thing??

[bigeasy4]

Hi Ya'll...My question is ..when you order the hcg from drug delivery...do they send the syringes also?..if no //where do we get the syringes aka needles ?...I got my 1 month order fom NHW but want to go another 2 weeks and will most likely order from drug delivery..thanks for the help
BTW..I lost 13.6 lbs my first five days on the diet (after load)

[upinAK]

Just a tip for anyone getting bruises from the shot.... pull the needle out slowly and the second it's out use the alcohol swab to cover and apply pressure IMMEDIATLY.  I still have the pretty black/blue bruise on my thigh from my first day, and haven't gotten one since.  Hope this helps

[mystikldrmr]

When you notice no change on the scale, do you measure yourself to see if you've lost more in inches??  I've always been told that when you're not losing pounds, you're losing inches.  Whether that's true or not, I have no idea.  That's just what I've always been told.

BTW, I begin my vlcd tomorrow morning.  Wish me luck.

[mresearcher]

I only measure myself once per week, usually on sunday although im too lazy to strip down and start measuring today so i'll do it tomorrow. LOL =)

i started at 152 and i'd really like to be 125. So thats why i've signed on for another week. my original plan was to only do 4 weeks but looks like its gonna be 5 for me so i can reach my goal..

Spices are fine, im pretty sure as long as you stick with what simmeons says, you'll be fine. if you dont already have a copy of his book i suggesst you get one and keep it with you at all times. I think i speak for all the ladies here when i say its like our bible!!!

you'll do great, just have faith in yourself and in your ability to have control over your diet! Be Strong!

[akelly]

Thanks for the info, I'm going to order everything tomorrow, yay. i can't wait to get started

[Miami1]

Hi everyone.  So glad to hear all the wonderful results, today is my first injection day.  I had to wait until today because tomorrow is Thanksgiving for us in Canada, and I just had to feast one last time before my 45 day starve.  Will post results as achieved, so Three Cheers for all of us!!!

[montmtgirl]

[montmtgirl]

Oops!  Hi to all.  I have been following all of you for awhile, plus reading KT's, booke, etc.  Anyway, I am waiting until after the holidays, and starting in January, doing the Dr. S. and KT protocol.  My question is, I have asthma and use inhalers, does anyone know if they affect this or what I should do?  Otherwise, I have learned a great deal from all of you, and I can't wait. All of you have been inspiring. . .

Anyone live near Montana?  I think I'll be the only one in this area to try it!  Thanks to all in advance.
  

[rda.nicky75]

Hello everyone!  Could someone give me a little advice, since y'all are pros!  What type of needles should i be ordering?  Subcutaneous or intra-muscular are the choices hcg . supplies is giving me and I'm not sure.  Thank you so much.  I look forward to posting how many pounds I've lost.  

[ubflossn]

well it's been 27days vlcd and 17.5lbs.  looks like i'm about 10lbs behind but it feels pretty good to be down almost 18lbs.  hope everyone has good luck today at weigh in!!

[ubflossn]

well i think you expressed concerns about giving shots?  (can't remember if that was you so sorry about that if it isn't).  if you can do the IM shots that's what dr s and kt suggest but lots of us are having great success only going subQ.  myself, i bought both but the IM size looks pretty mean.  if you're going to do IM shots there were other companies on here that offer diff size needles than hcgsupplies.  not as a whole kit but you could but them seperate.  they have a finer gauge longer needle.  try to find one about 28 or 29 (29would be best) because they'll hurt less.  most of us i think are using a 1/2" needle and even if we're thinking we're doing an IM shot the needle is really too short to go there if you have any fat on ya.  bottom line, both IM and subQ are working so pick what you think you'll want to do for 45 days.

[GRACIEGIRL2]

I tried your chilli recipe yesterday.  It was really good.  Great way to disguise the beef.  I am not much for beef.

You guys keep the recipes coming.  I love to get new ideas from all of you.  It makes this diet a little easier.

[Eruaistaniel]

That recipe was inspired by hcgrecipes dot blogspot dot com.  I just made some changes in how to prepare it and replaced oregano with marjoram.  I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[Eruaistaniel]

I lost 1/2 lb overnight.  Down 16 1/2 lbs in 24 days.

[imalarry]

Hello, I hope everyone had a great weekend. It was good 4 me. Now I am back at work and super busy this morning so I will give the quick report. Down 25 lbs in 25 days on the vlcd. I have had a little cold and that has slowed my progress but I trully look like a different person. This has been a true miracle in my life and I am so gratefull.  By the way I kept wondering Why KT was recomending rebounding daily. I did some research on it and I recomend anyone to whom detoxing is important to check it out........................Keep those recipes coming.

[bigeasy4]

Hi..You seem to know about the needles and so forth..I have insulin syringes for my insulin..will they work for the subQ with the HCG as well?..I have 29 gauge..Also..do you know about ordering from drug dilivery?  would 3 amp be enough for another 2 weeks?...If you can help ..Thanks
lost 15 lbs first 7 days..started going fast but has slowed to about 1 to 1.5 a day now..Best of all my insulin use is down 90% to nearly none..eeehhhaaa
Any body tell me what vicd stands for?..
Thanks

[imalarry]

very low calorie diet.  Thats awsome on the insulin.

[ItalianMama3]

haven't posted I've been really wiped out. My daughter had a soccer game with a 4 hr drive, I had 3 pre-teens and I took them to eat and than shopping after the game so literally the drive back seemed like a whole day by itself. I layed on the coach Sunday in my bath robe. I was the same weight yesterday so it was 15.3 down in 20 days. I didn't weigh today...retained a ton of water by days end and didn't even come close to eating all my food. Too tired to move. Check back tomorrow!!

[Lindaloo]

That's so great about the insulin . . . I noticed other positive effects from this protocal as well . . .  no more waking up with aches and pains and my stomach use to blow up after eating anything and that has subsided too (still happens sometimes) . . .  well I lost one of the 2 lbs. I gained from my meatball dinner and have 2 more shots left . . . I'm going to get into those 130's if I have to stay on the treadmill for the next 2 days straight!!! Wish me luck gang . . . as I do all of you!!
Larry: I feel the same way . . . like a miracle was laid out for me!!!! I thank the powers that be, for this, everyday!!!

[Lindaloo]

Sometime you just have to sleep!!!!!

[ubflossn]

the rebounder is wonderful!  what it does is help pump the lymph and encourage drainage.  your lymphatic system has no pump (like the blood supply had the heart) so sometimes you'll get things like waste products that need carried around by the lymph system and if you aren't pumping it it isn't moving.  jumping jacks are another way to get it "pumping" if you don't have or want a rebounder.  what i like about that is it's really easy and time goes fast.  you use all your body, arms legs etc and get the lymph pumping out all the ****.  there....that's my 2 cents in a nutshell about the rebounder.  

[ubflossn]

vlcd is very low calorie diet.  you're exactly right with the syringes.  they are also 1/2" and will be exactly what you need for subQ.  you'll be  a pro since you already do that.  it slows sometimes then picks back up again.  the girls seem to have a bit more trouble due to fluid retention (damn periods!!) etc.  hang in there.....it'll pick up again

[Aninani]

Hi there...been watching for about a month now.  I finally started VLCD on Friday, 9/28, after taking first shot Monday, 9/24.  I know, I know, couple days late but not sure what I was thinking trying to make my first VLCD day 9/27 (my birthday).  I have to say you are all very inspiring.  I feel like I've known you for so long!

Here's my deal, on 9/26 I was at 232.  Then 9/29 229, 10/1 225, 10/2 224.5 - which I stayed at for a few days until I did an apple day on Friday, 10/5.  I lost 1 pound but have now been at 223.5 for 2 days.  HELP!  I'm frustrated that I have only lost 1.5 pounds the last week.  Fortunately I don't have to worry about my monthly friend as the plumbing was removed in 2005.

Larry, I believe you got your hcG from GHI...how much are you injecting everyday and where?  Are you using the small syringes they provided?

Linda, congrats on making 140....I haven't seen that number in 14 years!  OUCH!  Can't wait to be there again!  When are you heading back to Florida?  You've missed some great storms the last week (I'm in Pembroke Pines).

Can anyone offer any suggestions???  I am planning on 3 rounds and would like to be between 125-130 (I'm 5'7").

Thanks everyone!

[GRACIEGIRL2]

Which vlcd are you following?  Most of us here are following Dr. S, KT and Native Healing.
Also,  what dose is your hcg?  Some of the forum has increased injections to 175-200iu and having better results.

[amy12345]

Hello everyone my name is Amy and I'm getting ready to start my H shots.
Any suggestions?
Did everyone eat alot during the first 3 days?
Thanks for any help

Amy

[imalarry]

Yes, i use the little needles and inject sub Q. As far as the two days just follow the Simmons instructions to the letter and if you can get some exercise. We all hit spots were we dont lose for a day or two then, POW another few pounds fall off. Also if you can sauna a few times a week I think this really helps. Basiclly I have found the more stuff I do from KTs book the more I lose but there are some expensive things in there I won't do.

[Aninani]

Thanks for your help, you two.  GG, I'm following Dr. S and although GHI said to use 250 IU I started at 200 for the first 4 shots then went to 175 IU because of the posts I read concerning the dosing.  I'm wondering if I should go back to the 200 IU?  Larry, what dosage are you using?  Also, dry sauna or steam sauna......I guess this means back to the G-Y-M for me!

I can only think of two possible issues - one, for the grissini/melba, are we to have one individual one or one serving size?  Two, my daughter was sick last week and I managed to get her cold.  I wonder if I am holding on to weight because of that?  I did measure and I have lost 1" off chest, 3.5" off abs and 2" off hips so atleast I know I am smaller (for everyone - measure!  what a great feeling when you put the tape measure back on the largest measurement you recorded and slip it all over, of course while chanting woo hoo I'm not that big anymore!).

[imalarry]

I followed the 250 instructions from ghi. I was using a dry sauna then I bought a two person infrared sauna for my house. It was my big purchace for the year. Also I dont think anyone here is eating the the toast. Kt recomended not too as he said the results would come faster without it. I do feel the potency falls off of the hcg even though RX soulutions said it will last 6 weeks in the fridge.I feel the hunger come back after about two weeks. I am calling the tomarrow for a new bottle.

[mresearcher]

im confused. i eat 2 melbas each day. no one else does??????

[imalarry]

I am not. I am not 100% positive about every one else. I know KT recomends not to eat em.

[ubflossn]

starting off takeing it easy on yourself!!!  you've lost 9lbs in 10days of vlcd!!  that's awesome!!!  when have you been able to do that????  the next thing is make sure you don't overwhelm yourself with unhealthy goals.  you are 5'7" and acording to an insurance company weight chart (and they are always a bit low so they can overcharge you if you're "normal") a woman with a medium frame should weigh between 133-147 so you're already expecting too much from yourself too fast. enjoy the fact that you're losing and save the apple day for when later into this things stall for 4-5days.  don't beat yourself up.........you're doing great!!

[ubflossn]

nope......no melbas for me!

[amy12345]

Hi again, This is a great site thanks for the info.
Can you tell me what everyone eats on the diet?
What kind of meat and veggies. Also, did you binge on the first three days?
Thanks again

[Lindaloo]

Mr.:  No melba for me either!!

Ani: Thanks doll . .. didn't think I'd see 140 either but here it is . . . and you're on your way . . . you're doin great . . . how were the waves down there . . . did the storms kick it up??? I miss my beautiful blue ocean!!!

[mresearcher]

wow! i had no idea yoou guys werent eating the melbas! im gonna try getting rid of them and maybe i'll lose more??

[mystikldrmr]

That's about my luck, I just bought a box of melbas tonight....ugh!!...lol.

Made it through my first day of vlcd with absolutely no hunger!!  I was amazed.

Amy--someone told me to eat and eat and eat--the more fattening the better during those gorge days and that it seemed to make a difference when it's time to begin the 500cals.  That person was 100% correct.  Unfortunately, I can't remember exactly who it was to be able to thank him or her for the great advice.

[mystikldrmr]

I know that KT suggests 5 to 10 minutes a day on the rebounder and I tried that.  I didn't get past 2 to 3 minutes...lol.  Honestly, it made me feel a bit dizzy when I did the time that I did.  So now it's serving as a "laundry rack"....lol.

Has anyone experienced any heartburn??

[akelly]

I was just reading through hcgdietinfo.com and it mentioned loss of sex drive as a side effect of the therapy....anyone have any issues with this?
A lot of their suggestions seemed to go against the original protocol with what they say to eat while doing it etc. I'm just wondering about the sex drive thing - that is kind of the opposite of what I'm going for!

[dream2bskinny]

Does any one knows of a doctor in the Austin, Houston, Bryan College staion Texas area that will prescribe
HCG injections? So far the clinic where I go, only prescribes Phentermine, diauretic pill and -B-12 shoots. I lost 20lbs in 4 months;However, I hear that with HCG It is posible to loose in the right places. Please advise.

[ubflossn]

funny you should mention that!  i think there may be some truth to that although it isn't impossible.  it's like the food thing: you still want it but you aren't HUNGRY for it.  if you've ever been pregnant it's similar to that time in my life.  i look forward to being touched and really thought i'd be crazy about it after i lost this much weight but i think i  feel like, wait a little longer and i'll feel even better about it cuz i'll have lost even more.  i used to initiate it more than i do now but once you're there it's all good.  (this is getting personal huh???) so, yes, i know what they're talking about.  but this is temporary.  just like our appitite for food will return to normal after the hcg shots i think our other appetite will to.  

mystik........i used to have chronic heartburn before the diet.  everyday!  but since the diet only maybe once or twice.  

no weight change today but i feel a lot smaller so i'm sure some will come off tomorrow.  good luck all!!

[ubflossn]

anyone ordering from drugdelivery.ca be cautioned.   they have a new e-check feature and offer 3% savings for using this new service.  i did that on the 4th of october and as of this morning the status is "still waiting for e-check to clear".  i called them about it because when i ordered last time i used my visa and within 2 days had verif that my order was going to pharmacy.  this process i am told will add about 5 business days to your order before it even goes out.  if you want it fast use your visa.  if you have the time to wait you can save 3% by using the eckeck.  she said she will try to put something on the web to let people know of the delay with the echeck but for now if speedy is your goal.......use visa!

[Eruaistaniel]

I lost another pound.  After 25 days on the vlcd, I'm down 17 1/2 lbs.

[mystikldrmr]

I had lost 5lbs when I weighed in this morning!!  I know that this is just the initial weight loss following the gorge days and first day of vlcd, but that felt great looking at the drop.

mresearcher:  I got to thinking about the melba toast thing this morning and thought that it's on Dr. S's plan and NHW encourages it, so I'm going to keep doing it.  Has anyone been able to tell if it makes a difference one way or the other in the weight loss??

Eruaistaniel:  Congrats on the pound gone!!  (That's another 3500calories missing from your body.)

[akelly]

i was hoping everyone would post that they had the opposite effect...! :) As long as it comes back then I won't be worried. When you feel much bigger than you should it is pretty much gone anyway...for me at least

[Lindaloo]

On page 123 bottom in KT's book he explains that by eliminating the melba or grissino it speeds up the fat burning process. . . .  I don't know from experience . . cause I never ate  it during phase 2. I lost 5lbs the first day too . . . I thought my scale was broken!!! Congrats!! . . . U2 Eru!!

[imalarry]

HELP. The potency on my hcg totally bit the dust. I tried to get more from GHI medical. NO DICE. They said I had to wait 1 month to be elagable again. I only have 8 lbs to go and I dont want to do another course to lose it. CAN ANY BODY SEND ME A 1500 AMPULE OVERNITE AND I WILL GLADLLY PAY WHATEVER FOR IT. I CAN WIRE THE MONEY RIGHT NOW OR WHATEVER YOU WANT. PLEASE WRITE ME

[ubflossn]

if i had it i would send you one.  i have only one left myself to stretch out!!  i'm on day 29 and only down 17.5lbs myself and my next ship from drugdel looks like it's going to be dalayed.  maybe you could order from there and when you're out altogether just go to phase 3 then jump back for a bit when your stuff comes in?  that may be what i'm going to need to do.  i didn't want to lose less than 30 on my 6 week plan but who knows?

[Dollyd60]

I think I read somewhere that 5 minutes is enough on the Reboundercizer to begin.  Reason being is that you will notice some very significant changes with regard to other hormones and lymph activity.  It is very good for assisting with so many functions within the body.  I would start out whatever time you can go to, endurance-wise... then add a few minutes per session.  I use a timer when I do mine, so that I will know exactly how much I jumped.  It is a very easy exercise and very gentle on the knees.

Glad that you did well on the vlcd beginning day.  Mine was a little rough.  It started out good enough, but as the day wore on, It was really tough.  Today is much better for me.  I truly believe that it helps with drinking all the water suggested.  The beginning water with lemon in the a.m. is important.

Keep posting progress.  "We Can Do This.".... We Can.   Love & Light

[imalarry]

PLEASE SEE ABOVE POST

[mresearcher]

Hi everyone..! well i was 135 for 3 days so i did an apple day, and it really worked! I lost 1.5 pounds overnight! Im so happy, so as of today, after 22 days of the VLCD im down 18.5 pounds! YAY!

Wow.. i was just thinking about the sex drive issue last night its like you guys are reading my mind! Yeah, for me... its GONE!! LOL>..... my byfriends not too happy bout it! oh well, it will come back so im not worried about it.

Larry im so sorry about the potency of your hcg, unfortunately i dont have any to send you. i just ordered my 2 free weeks from nhw and i already promised my mother one of them... both of our weight loss has slowed down so much we have to do an extra week each.

Ok Loo.. i read it and im eliminating the melba.. we'll see if it helps! are you 139 yet???

[mresearcher]

If all else fails...

my only suggesstion would be is to get bloodwork done (labs are all walk-in) and fax the results in to nhw. they overnight their packages. they are the only company i know about that overnights the hcg.

[imalarry]

I cant becuse I leave on a missions trip in 2.5 weeks so if I dont get it done now I have to wait two months before I can do it again.Boo hoo. I was really on a role and so set to just be done with it

[Lindaloo]

Larry: Call Native Healing Ways . . . they are really good about sending the hcg really fast . ..  speak with Brock!!

[Lindaloo]

No . . . I'm not here yet . . . still 141 this morning . . darn meatballs!!! I've got tomorrow's shot and then 2 more days of eating VLCD . . . I'm hoping the candida, bowel and liver cleans will get me there in phase 3 if not sooner . .  back on the treadmill for me!!!!!

[imalarry]

What is there phone number ??????

[Lindaloo]

Native Healing Ways' web site is www.hcgdiet.com. and phone #: [phone]

[Aninani]

Well, I guess I am going to kiss the toast goodbye!  Thanks for the heads up...somehow I missed that in KT's book so I'm going to reread tonight.  My gym has a steam and dry sauna so I'm going to start them tomorrow.  Didn't go down any today but this cold is kicking me in the ***...so bad my husband even drove our daughter to school this morning (round trip is 50 minutes, and his office is another 25 the other way).  Ub and Linda, thanks for the kind words.  I'll give myself a break.  Definately haven't lost weight like this before so...I'll mellow.  By the way, the waves are great.  They're waiting to see you on your board in a new bikini!

Larry, I hope Brock was able to help!  Good luck!

[Aninani]

I looked up Native Healing Ways and got this info:

wwwdothcgdietdotcom...looks like they are in Greer, SC  8667562821

Hope this help!

[imalarry]

I got it handled and thank you so much for your help...................it means the world to me

[Aninani]

Hi...I moved from Southlake on New Year's Eve and I know there is a doctor in Fort Worth having GREAT results with hcG.  His site is hcgweightsolutiondotcom.  I have a couple of friends using him and they are impressed.  I know it's not Austin or Houston but he may be able to help or know of someone closer.

[Lindaloo]

Hey Ani have you been to Sublime . . . it's an organic restaurant on US1 by Sunrise Hwy . . . my friend knows the manager so we went one night . . . it's great and we can eat out there!!! Yay!! Can't wait to catch a beautful blue wave . . . the ones up here are brown . . . .still lill afraid to go bikini shopping yet but maybe next week!!

[Aninani]

Rebounder question:  Where do you get one?  I am having a hard time...did you order online or go to a store?  

[GRACIEGIRL2]

hacres . com has them on web site

[ubflossn]

you know i think i got mine at walmart or something crazy in the fitness section.  i am pretty sure of that but there was one that was really made well with a support bar etc.  i think it was called "urban rebounder".  google that if you can't find one local.  what about dicks sporting goods or something like that??  


imalarry........so where did you get hooked up!?

[imalarry]

Graciegirl helped me out. SHE IS AWSOME. and I am so thankfull. I am having a hard time dealing with the hunger and have increased my calories to about 800 or so a day but only eating from the list. It is SO HARD.

[Lindaloo]

Really Lar? The hunger is that noticable when you stop the hcg??? I'm A-Scared!!!

[mystikldrmr]

Thank you for letting me know about the melba toast/grissini info on the pg# in KT's book.  I have my book loaned out to my daughter so she can read it but I'll definitely re-read that section.  The last thing that I want to do is risk slowing my progress.  Did you eat anything to make up the cals??  I know that they're on 10ea but that would still be 20 in a day.

[mystikldrmr]

Dollyd60:  How was day #2 for you??  I was hungry today but I expected it.  Of course, everytime I would think about something that I would love to eat, I thought about the 5lbs that was not there this morning.

Aninani:  I got my rebounder from K-mart.  They were harder to find than I thought they would be.  Wally World didn't sell them anymore, Hibbit's didn't sell them anymore.  I couldn't even find a used one at Goodwill...lol.  They used to be a really hot exercise item.

[imalarry]

It slowlly came on over the last 4 days and everyday my weight loss slowed or stoped. I think ( and will be able to say for a fact in 12 days ) that the 2 days without shots at the end of the course your body still has good hcg in it and hunger wont be a problem. I think my body has basiclly been without hcg for 1.5 days. Dont be scared. It will be o k. If I can do it anyone can do it.  Funny though I have not heard anyone else complain about potency with the hcg from GHI. At first I thought it was all in my head but there is just no way.

[imalarry]

What' a HIBBIT ??? lol

[mystikldrmr]

A 'mall' sporting goods store, I reckon...lol

[Mary 53]

I check in every day to see how everyone is doing. Great work to everyone!  I started the shots on October 1 and after noting a weight loss of 4 pounds by the 4th day, I decided to stop weighing myself every day. I made myself take my inches, though, and glad I did that. I'll tell you, though, I can feel it for sure. I have so many hormonal issues (I have to supplement with bioidentical hormones), of which GHI medical was aware, and that is why I figured I would stay with the dose they suggested and just hope things work out well for me. I also have a thyroid issue, so I expected my weight loss to be slow. Frankly, I was at the point where I would be thrilled just to see the scale start to budge DOWNward....and I am happy to say it is. Also, I have been "dieting" for years and years and although I would never give up, the frustration level was so very high that this weight has been so stubborn over the past 7 years or so. But, it has been particularly difficult over the past 8 months since I had that disc problem. So, even though the pounds are not flying off (well, frankly given my history...maybe they are :)) I am happy.

My weight loss issues go back to age 11, which is one reason I elected to do only a 2times a week weigh-in, otherwise I was finding it crazy making. Plus, I have a good scale, but not a digital and so I could not see those little drops that are so great to see when you think you see no drop at all. The inches are coming off, though, and I can feel such a change (blessedly!) in my tummy. So I am down from 175 to about 170 at last check ....I will get the courage to get on the scale Friday morning. It surely feels like more. Two inches accross my stomach is a gift. I should add that I am probably a bit higher than the 500 calorie diet since on most days I have chosen to have one wafer of my high fiber "wafer"....it is not really a cookie...but is works very well for it's intended use :) I am allergic to Psyillium, so the fiber thing can be tricky for me....so far, though, although things are slower, they are still moving downward for me, as I said.

Just wanted to add that I have an Urban Rebounder. I got mine from HSN Home Shopping and I have had it for about 4 years. I LOVE IT!!!  It is fascinating how it effects your body by exercising EVERY cell in your body. It is quite amazing when you look at the research regarding rebounding. Through my hunt for info on the rebounder, I found Teresa Tapp (do a google search..she is amazing) and she is so into exercising the lymph system...hey guys! we are on our way to the greatest health!

Larry, I am sorry you are having struggles with the potency. It is making me a bit nervous about my potency since I am with GHI Medical too. But, as I said, they were aware of my health issues (hormone-wise) and so I guess I will stick it out...and, I am feeling a difference. I remember they did tell me to order early if I felt I wanted to go a second round, which, given the rate of loss for me, I will most likely do. Did they address the issue of potency? or is this something you can "feel?" ....or did they say anything at GHI Medical, along the lines of "wait a few days and see if the wt. loss doesn't pick up again"? Just curious. I hope you can get it all figured out before you have to take  your trips. You have done so well!

Thanks for bearing with me ...a long check in, but it has been awhile since I have written on this thread and just wanted to let you all know I was in there with you!

Mary

[A&MGirl]

glad to see everyone is doing so great. My weekend was bad.  I gave in to the temptation and ate. I started fresh on monday and still havent cheated. I am afraid to check the scale though. HELP! Will i gain terrible amounts of wait now? Has anyone ever slipped (besides the meatballs :) )

[ubflossn]

i think a couple did cheat at functions etc.  they had a few day setback but recovered.  

well i've finished 29days vlcd (no cheating) and only down 17.5lbs.  i've been the same 3 days in a row and i'm running out of time!  looks like apple day for me folks!!!  YIPPEE!!!

[Lindaloo]

I MADE IT U GUYS!!! 139.5LBS ON MY LAST DAY OF INJECTIONS . . . JUST UNDER THE WIRE AND I MADE IT INTO THE 130'S . . . CAN'T GET THE SMILE OFF MY FACE!!!

TRICK:  I ATE A LITTLE EXTRA CHICKEN 3 TIMES DURING PHASE 2, JUST BEFORE BEDTIME AND I LOST THE NEXT MORNING EACH TIME . . . . SO YOU MAY WANT TO TRY IT (ON OCCASION)??

I'VE GOT TO KEEP FOCUSED SO I DON'T GAIN ANY BACK NOW . . .  HAVE A GREAT DAY EVERYONE . . . AND I MUST SAY YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN A REAL HELP TO ME, SO THANK YOU ALL SOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!!!

[Eruaistaniel]

Linda: Congradulations, Linda.  That's great!  

all: I'm down 1/2 a pound this morning.  I've lost 18 lbs in 26 days.

[GRACIEGIRL2]

DO NOT say ONLY 17.5lbs  That is great!  Where else can you lose that much in 29 days.

Lindaloo you are an inspiration to us all.  CONGRATULATIONS!  We are running right behind you!

Phase 1 is slowing down a bit for me. 32lbs 34 full days.  I'm really starting to strugle.  Can't wait
for Oct. 20th to get here.

Good luck to you all!

[Dollyd60]

Hi Mystic, Larry, Lindaloo, Graciegiel2, Everyone.... Great Group of people!

Mystic, I actually did much better on second vlcd day, Much better.  I am doing well on this and am grateful for everyone's support.  It helps having a network of "like-minded" people who are kind and compassionate.  

Larry: great that you found what you needed yesterday.  You will like NHW if they were the one you used.  I feel they have integrity in what they sell and advise everyone.

Lindaloo!!!! Great going!! you have done so great.  

I am just thrilled for how well everyone is doing.  I was thinking this since going on this vlcd and Hcg that this is teaching us a whole new way and thinking about food.  It will transform us, while at the same time our lives will be changed forever with positive reinforcement about how to eat, and to "eat to live" instread of "live to eat".  I am SO ready for this complete transformation of me to a better and more authentic me.  Thanks for listening.  Have a great day everyone.

[GRACIEGIRL2]

Hey Guys  Guess who has a profile now.  bbsoss has posted his pix!  You think its really him? lol

[mystikldrmr]

CONGRATULATIONS, LINDALOO!!!!!  That is excellent news!!  How much "extra chicken before bedtime" did you eat??  I remember reading in KT's book something about eating protein before bed.  I still have my book loaned out so I can't find the page#.  You remain on the vlcd for another three days after today, correct??

Dollyd60:  I struggled with some hunger yesterday but kept thinking about what the scale showed when I weighed in yesterday morning, drank more water and I was fine.  Today I had lost 2lbs.  That's a total of 7 since Monday.  There doesn't seem to be any hunger as of yet but the day is still early--so I'll see what the rest of the day brings.

[Aninani]

Good Morning, Everyone!  Glad to see all are doing well.  Thanks for all the info on rebounders.  I'll start my search again today.  Stayed the same today but still dealing with the cold so I'm not fretting.  Linda, CONGRATS!  Awesome job!  I haven't heard of the restaurant but sounds interesting...perhaphs when you ever get back to FL we can meet up?  I agree - blue waves are better.  I grew up in CT and the water in LI Sound was not pretty.  Larry, here's to the last 8 "melting" away!  So glad you were able to get more (way to go, GracieGirl!).  Ub, now it's my turn to pump you up with pride...ONLY 17.5?????  That's FANTASTIC!  Did you take your measurements before starting?  Take them again and give us all an update!  Also, how many clothing sizes are you down?  Mary, I have some of the T-Tapp DVDs...they are killers but amazing how much they do work.  I haven't done any of them in a few years.  Time to dust them off and get moving.

Hope you all have a terrific day.

[Lindaloo]

Gracie: That's amazing for phase 1 . . you're going to do soooo well in phase 2!!!
Doll:  Great start!!
Mystik: 100 grams of chic before bed .. .  yes, I'm going to continue the VLCD for 3 more days . . then I can have some cheese!!
Eru: Great Job!! Keep it up!!!
Ub: Apples are good for you!!

[imalarry]

Hello everyone. You are all doin so good and congats. Lindaloo, you will problly lose a little more the next few days. Great job. I am trying to hold my weight till the hcg gets here.I think I can do it, tea will be my salvation for the hunger.  I am also going to try Lindaloos chicken thing.......................Where is Itallanmama ???

Lindaloo........eat some cheese for me. !!!

[mresearcher]

hi everyone! well its been 23 days and im down 19 pounds! that means i've got 8 mre pounds until i reach my goal weight of 125. I have to say, I havent been this thin my entire life! Its really amazing, im getting compliments from everyone, people that know me, and people that dont! Seriously, i know im only 24 years old, but i havent been under 140 pounds since JUNIOR HIGH, and actually i've weighed closer to 150 pounds since then (and im only 5'3"), all through high school, college, and now graduate school (one semester left) I've been hanging around the 150's forever... Being at this weight now is the most AMAZING feeling in the world! i'll never go back to being "chunky" or having rolls hang over my jeans, or having no self control around food... for those of you just reading the forum and wondering if this diet is worth it, IT IS.

Ok im done boasting.. it just feels soooooo good!

Larry: So glad everything worked out for ya!

Loo: Thats my girl! i'm so happy for you i knew you could do it! and just remember, steak days (or protein days as many call them) are maintanence for life, if you gain a little, you can always fall back on that to get the weight off. Good luck and please keep us updated throughout your phase 3.. CONGRATS!

[Lindaloo]

Larry: I just started getting organic cheese during phase 1 .. . and I can't wait to get some again (Feta, Cheddar .. . yum) I get mine at Trader Joe's but I bet Whole Foods has a better selection . . . . is your local farmer's market all organic?? I wonder if we have one around here . . . I guess I can google it.

Mr.: That's awesome M!!!!! You'll make it you're doing GREAT!!! I will, keep you posted, that is!!

[amy12345]

Thank you for the info. I have not started yet so I need all the help I can get.
Also what do you eat everyday?

Thanks again
Amy

[imalarry]

We dont have a whole foods here but we do have trader joes. Our farmers market is not all organic and you really have to carefull what you buy there. There is a lady that sells hand made organic cheese there and man it is so great. She makes so many great flavors.  Where do you live ? I live in Ventura Ca.

[imalarry]

I was reading on another forum about a guy measuring if the body was in ketosis with something called a Ketostix. Has anyone ever heard of this??

[peaceusa]

that is for low carb/atkins type of diets. the main goal of dieters that do atkins is to be in ketosis.

[akelly]

Well, I finally ordered my HCG, I'm so excited...I can't wait to start telling you all how skinny I'm getting...! I also bought a ton of stuff from KT's book today, supplements etc...and a trampoline.

Did anyone do priority shipping from drugdelivery.ca? I've heard it takes a while to get it, so I'm wondering if the priority shipping speeded it up for anyone.

[A&MGirl]

ubflossn- you will start to lose soon. 17.5 lbs is really AMAZING!!! Most folks would KILL for that kinds of loss! so, keep your head up and have an apple :)
Lindaloo- you are truly an inspiration! You had a goal and reached it!! I always say "im going to try for XXX of lbs and have never known the feeling of EVER reaching it. I bet you are on top of the world! Congrats!
mresearcher- YOU ARE ALLOWED TO BOAST!! it makes us all feel good when anyone does well! It gives us a reason to continue the quest!

well as for me...was able to not think of food today and am actually getting used to coffee with no cream. its been 9 days for me and 8 lbs so far. I dont see a difference yet but the scale says i am down.
I dont think i have ever let ANYONE know what my goal is but I will let you all know. I want to be 140 lbs.
There...I actually said it to someone. (in this case alot of someones :) )
I want to reach that goal so i thought i would let everyone know. It will definitely mean going the 40 shot route, but i am ready!
My birthday is coming and I want to celebrate with a GREAT DRESS!!!

BTW, Are the phases part of KT's plan? what seperates each phase from the next?
what foods are allowed in KT's plan? Dr S does not mention anything about phases in his manuscript and i know i didnt read anything about cheese!

[mystikldrmr]

Right now, I'm only eating chicken and turkey as my meats and cukes, tomatoes, spinach, and carrots as my veggies.  I don't have any cravings for sweets whatsoever--which is very unusual for me.  I did a candida cleanse before ever beginning the shots and, evidently, that has been worth the time and money to do it.  (I didn't buy KT's suggested cleanse.  I bought mine from an herb shoppe.)  When do you plan on starting??

[Lindaloo]

Larry: I'm in NY . . . Long Island for now . . . I go back and forth to Ft. Lauderdale and NY . . . I'm going to Whole Foods tomorrow to check things out . . . I'm sure they'll have tons of great stuff I can eat!!! Hey M: I don't know where you are on the Island but I'm going to the Whole Foods on Broadway (Jericho) are you close to that one . . . we should go food shopping together!!
A&M: Thanks I really am . . . this has been like a true miracle for me and it sounds like you are on your way too . . . you're doing great and stay strong . . . No cheese until phase 3 . . . sorry, I shouldn't have mentioned it!! . . . you should really read KT's book it's a wealth on info!!!
Night All!!

[mresearcher]

Yes.. thats the whole foods i go to! i wonder if we've stood on line at the checkout counter together and never knew it..! I love whole foods they have the yummiest things, think about all the things you can eat now.. peanutbutter, trail mix, turkey and cheese roll-ups w mustard or mayo, steak cooked in butter, shrimp with cocktail sauce, cottage cheese with peaches, salad with real dressing, tuna salad, chicken salad, seafood salad, sashimi with soy sauce and wasabi, mixed veggies with butter, scrambled eggs with melted cheese sausage and bacon!!!!!!
Ok i just listed all the yummies i can think of that you can indulge in during phase 3.. im salivating now..

Especially the peanutbutter- they have it organic at whole food where the only ingrediants are peanuts and salt.. ITs Deliscious!

[lgstarchild]

It's been a whle since I posted but I am encouraged by all of your success stories.  I know lots of people are interested in some tips and I am going to mention some things I've been doing.I'm on day 18 of vlcd and am down 14 pounds.  Weight loss is slowing down to about a half pound now. I am doing Simeon's diet on my own and am happy with the results. I don't eat the melba toast, and also haven't eaten anything organic.  I have been using Mrs. Dash Salt Free Hot & Spicy Seasoning to add flavor to my chicken, sirloin, or salad shrimp.  
I've used Smooth Move with Senna extract for the bowel issue.  It was 14.95 at GNC but it worked within a 8 hours.  I took 2 pills at 12:00 pm and 2 pills at 5:00.  By 8:00 pm that night, I was in the bathroom.
I am also continuing the shots thru my mense.  It has not changed the flow.

I have a question though, has anyone taken antibiotics while doing phase 2?  I've been prescribed them by my primary to help with a vertigo issue and swollen glands that came on over the last week.

I bought the Trudeau book to help me understand what to eat on Phase 3, but I am slightly confused, it says no sugar or carbs, but aren;t they in just about every food?  Are cheeses & dairy allowed?  
Sorry for the long post.

[mresearcher]

hello there, yes cheeses and dairy are allowed in phase 3 in mderation of course. Also its not that you cant have carbs, you CANT have SUGAR or STARCH. there are carbs in everything especially fruit which you can eat alot of in phase 3, no corn, potato, pasta, rice, yams, bread or breading, no sauce that has sugar in it like bbq sauce or ketchup or jelly or honey mustard.

[mresearcher]

try going to this web page, it has alot of info about phase 3 www  dot hcg info online  dot com

[Lindaloo]

M: That's so funny isn't it?? I'm goin at some point today .. . I'll be wearing a sign that says LooLoo!! That's a great site M, thanks for the info!!

[ubflossn]

well after the yummy apple day i've lost 1lb (should have been more for how boring the meals were!).  but i'm premenstrual and lost a pound so i'll quit complaining.  total after 30vlcd days is 18.5lbs.  i also measured today so the amazing total inch loss is 19.5 inches!!!  so he's right it is just about pound for inch!!  pounds will catch up i'm sure.  an amazing 4.75 inches came off my waist!!!  that's awesome.  total pounds since i first measured is 20.6!!  i'm pretty happy.  now if i could just lose 20 more in about 20 days.............

[ubflossn]

the thing to remember about dairy if you do reenter that into your world after phase 2 is that it really must be organic so you can avoid the hormones and steroids that will make you fat again!

[veggiegal]

I'm still trying to figure this out before I feel secure starting.  In Dr S manuscript, it says 200 grams of protein.  That isn't possible on 500 calories.  One gram of protein is 4 cal.  Do you think that's a typo?  Also, in the manuscript, it says injections should be 125 iu.  But on the hcgdietinfo site it says that Dr S and KT recommend 175.  If there are more typos in the manuscript, how do we know?
I'm excited about getting started and am working on my protein choices since I'm a vegetarian.  I don't want to put in all this work and money for poor results.
You guys are a great resource and I'm looking forward to being one of the group.  I'm a 64 y/o retired nurse living in MS.  Tore my Achilles tendon doing circuit training and am facing surgery soon.  NO exercise possible for a long time and I'm gaining weight.  No amount of dieting is helping so Dr S is my only hope.

[bigeasy4]

Hey.. where in MS are you living..I live in Picayune..64/yo..retired..I've lost 18lbs in 9 days..wt lost slowed down now though..still sticking to the vlcd..no major cheats.  You stick with it..I have done no exercise at all...best wishes..

[GRACIEGIRL2]

The 200 grams is not pure protein.   Chicken for instance..
100 grams of chick  has 110 total calories...fat 1.2g = 11cals..protein 23g = 92cals
Tofu 100 grams has 145 total calories...fat 8.7g = 78cals..protein 15.8g = 63 cals..carbs 4.3g = 17cals
try calorieking dot com that might help you figure out the calories for what you are able to eat.

[svltdebo]

Help me!  Help me!  I ordered my vials from a "steriod" site and they arrived last night in a teeny tiny box.  No instructions on mixing.  Vials are teeny tiny, 5000 iu each.  How do I go about mixing.  No way the vials can contain more than one or two shots........I don't get it, do you mix and put the mixture into another container.  Or, did get get bamboozled, the vials are the size of my little finger.  Advice GREATLY APPRECIATED......I've got 80 pounds just waiting to come off....thx, deb

[GRACIEGIRL2]

Do your vials have powder or liquid in them?

[svltdebo]

thanks for answering Gracie, thought I scared everyone off.  There is a vial of powder and a vial of solution, both the size of my little finger....no way I can mix in them that would amount to even 1cc shot :(

[ubflossn]

you're ok you just don't have everything you need.  you'll throw that liquid away and get some bacteriostatic water (bac water).  probably 30cc each bottle.  look on the website hcgsupplies.com and see what it all is.  you can buy complete kits (needles, alcohol prep pads, empty vials for mixing into, bac water etc) or you can order only what you need if you already have some of the supplies.   what is the mfg of the hcg?  pregnyl?  also after you order your supplies they will send you information on the mix instructions and it's really simple to figure out once you're looking at it.  good luck!

[svltdebo]

Thanks UB.........I am so frustrated, I've studied and read and watched this website for three months all geared to go, takes three weeks for the "stuff" to show up......then this!  I thought the mixing would be simple.  Yes, it is pregnyl.   I'll go to HCG...thanks again.

[ItalianMama3]

I took a computer and brain break for a few days.... I've been so pooped lately. My insomnia is rearing its ugly head in a bad way...I was doing so well without the meds. I thought I was past all this. I've been roughing it, because I never want to go back to those meds. Bummed that the weight isn't coming off better. I can see change in my appearance but it’s not enough when I have so far to go. Hoping the visitor gets here and goes away quickly and I lose a few more pounds before my BDAY!!

Great job everyone! Hey Loo post of pic of the new bikini your going to strut!  : 0

[imalarry]

Ok so I have been reacherching Ketosis, ( the process of the body converting fat to energy ) and found this is measurable with a test strip .  I bought the test kit last night and have been testing myself and it shows negative. ( Now I have lost no weight in 4 days ) So I get my new Hcg today and it will be very interesting to see if I test positive as I start to lose weight again. I will keep you all posted.

Ps............I have not gained any weight but it is taking all my will power to not cheat as I am really hungery.

Great job everyone.............Welcome back Mama

[Eruaistaniel]

I lost another 1/2 pound this morning.  I'm down 18 1/2 lbs in 27 days.

[amy12345]

Thank you for your help. I'm just waiting for the Hcg to get here. It shipped to me on the 3rd so I don't know when it will arrive.
I'm scared a bit that I don't know all the info to start.
So I was thinking of eating lunch meat chicken turkey for the 500
Now what do you do about shampoo? etc
How much weight have you lost?
thank you so much
Amy

[jennbear73]

Hello all! I've been so busy it's been hard to get here. Well, I started last Wednesday at 225 lbs during gorge I went up to 227-228lbs. I'm now down to 213. which is wonderful. I'm excited and happy about the loss.

During my first week - I moved - seperated from my spouse of 10 years - and started this protocol all at once. Shew! It's been a hectic week. But I feel good - and I'm glad that so many others are losing so much weight also.

My clothes are loser - I need to measure myself again. I was going to wait until my 2nd week was over.

Although I have to admit my first week I was hungry. Even after just eating. But now that's its the 8th day. It's subsided a lot. I eat and I'm not as hungry afterward - and the bonus - I don't eat as much.

Anyway!! Congrats to all!!

Yeah to me!!

[veggiegal]

We live in Oxford.  Moved here from Chattanooga 7 years ago and love it.

[veggiegal]

Thanks, I wasn't thinking straight on that one at all.  We've (my husband and I) just ordered our HCG and will be ready to start at Thanksgiving.  Thought I could may turkey day and the day after our gorge days.  That way we can enjoy all the goodies with our kids and grandkids and then get down to serious business.

[saratx]

I am thinking about trying the hcg shots, but I would like to know what is all involved? I talked to a online doctor here in the us and they said it would cost me about 610.00 for the blood work. They would then prescribe me the hcg. I only have about 25 pounds to lose, so she said that I would only have to do one phase. She also mentioned 2.5 cc. Not sure what that meant. What type of diet do they suggest. How many shots do you give yourself a day and how much. If I was prescribed 5000 iu how much of that would I take a day? I just like to know all the facts before hand. I want to be sucessful with this diet because my husband I might convince my husband to try this diet. He is 6 ft and weighs 300 pounds. I also noticed that some people talk about b12 shots as well. What is this all about? Thankyou

[Lindaloo]

Mama:  Can we post photos here? . . .  I'll post it on a hanger!!  Mama have you ever had a parasite test done? I know that can be a huge cause for fatigue and I was just rereading the good book and I can't remember what the causes he gave of insomnia were . . . I'll look it up . . . Welcome Back We Miss You!!

I just got back from Whole Foods (that's like walking into heaven) Everyone is so helpful and curtious!! I got a steak to toss in the Freezer in case I need to do a steak day and got other goodies for my first meal on Sat . . . . can't wait!! . . . I dropped another .5lbs this morning so I'm 139lbs with one more day of VLCD to go . . . hoping I'll drop 4 more lbs tonight (ha ha) . . .There is 2 grams of sugar in the organic tomato sauce I bought (they said that was just from the tomato itself) so I guess it's ok, right? I also bought some organic tomato's to make my own sauce . . . what do you guys think??

Larry: Have you tried the Callahan Tec? on page 174 of KT's book . . . can't hurt . . . I'd be interested to know if it really works!

Amy: Lunch Meat???? Go Organic Girlfriend!!!!! It's worth it (at least with your meat)!! No?

Jenn: That's Awesome!! You're doin Great!!! See it gets easier, right!! Wait till you X see's you next month!! Too bad for him!!!

[mommyiam]

larry, I was just wondering how close you are to your goal weight?  You have done so great on this program...I'm hoping the new hcg will get things moving again!

My hcg just got here!!!!!  Yippee!!!  I was originally going to start tomarrow, but I decided my visitor is still lingering today, so will start Sat and gorge all weekend (will be easier to chow down with husband and 3 kids, then start vlcd on Mon when they aren't here...except my 2 yr old)  My husband is actually going out of town for work all week, which at first I thought would make things harder, but then I started thinking, no real meals to cook, the kids love mac & cheese, hot dogs, fish sticks, chick nugs, ... I don't normally feed them that junk very often, so they will be excited about it, and my life will be simpler!

Can someone tell me about Im injection in the thigh?  What I was wondering is does it go in the side of your thigh or the top?  I know I read about this, just can't remember where?

Thanks and Good Luck to all!

[jennbear73]

Lindaloo - thank :) appreciate it!

saratx - I didn't go to that place - I didn't do blood work. I just ordered what I needed and did it.
I guess you could pay that much - but what for?

Thanks all - I'm going walking tonight - I'm hoping to see some good loss tomorrow...

[jennbear73]

Doctor advised me - between the crease in your thigh/groin down to the top of the knee - you want to inject in the middle of that area which is about an 2 inch box - if you inject on either side you'll hit areas - you really don't want to hit. you have more questions let me know.

[A&MGirl]

lindaLoo- YOU HAVE TO WEAR IT!!!! :)

Mama- Welcome Back!

Jennbear- in the same boat as you, 19 married years for me, and i cant wait for the holidays! They will BOTH regret it! your x and mine! Good Luck to you!

I am going to get KT's book and read up tonight!

[imalarry]

Mommy I am about 10 lbs from my goal. I got my stuff today and took my shot right away so hopefully by tonight the hunger will subside. I have been eating extra protine and a few cashews to deal with it. I will see how I feel over the next few days. If I start loosing again I will make it but if not I will have to finish this in 2 months becuse of my sceduall.

Sertx...............read Kevin Trudos book, THE WEIGHT LOSS CURE

Loo..............NO I didnt really get into learning that one. I tried it a few times and It seemed a little hoaky for me. As strange as it sounds on the days I work out real hard the hunger is not as bad. By the way, organic is the ONLY WAY TO GO ALWAYS. I bet if everyone on this site read THE 100 YEAR LIE and EXCITOTOXINS, THE TASTE THAT KILLS they would never ever touch procesed foods again.

[mresearcher]

hi everyone! well i only have 10 days of injections left and 7.5 pounds until i reach my goal. i know that sounds do-able but its been coming off super slow! like .5 per day so im getting worried. i need some tricks or tips or something to help me speed it up.. anyone have any suggestions????????????

my mother's been doing half apple days (basically she eats 2 apples for lunch an apple for a snack and a normal 100grams of protein and veggie dinner) everyday because her weight loss was so painfully slow in the begining (she's a vegetarian and in over 3 weeks only lost 10 pounds!) So anyway the half apple days have been working wonders for her, she's been losing over a pound per day, but couldn't her weight loss be muscle not fat due to the lack of protein in her diet????? seems like a good idea until you really examine it.. any thoughts?

Seriously i need some tips to make the weight come off a little quicker.. anyone???

[mresearcher]

i forgot to mention i was at whole foods today too in the pouring rain it was about 5ish! i love that place too.
I think the organic tomato sauce sounds fine just as long as you check the ingredients list. the ingredients should be seasonings and tomatoes and no added sugar, then the sauce is fine. Thats a good rule of thumb, check the ingredients before buying anything during phase 3.

Also im gonna try your tip for eating 100 grams of a protein before bed, maybe it will trigger my body to burn more fat!

[jenniferjo5]

Hello everyone! I am going to start this diet next week. I have been so inspired by all of you. It is so wonderful that everyone is losing so much weight! I hope I can be as successful. I am a teacher from Tn. I have a 6 month old baby, and I want to look good for family photos. Do any of you know anyone who has been off of the protocol a while and kept off the weight? Have any of you noticed the weight redistribution that K.T. wrote about? I hope I can participate in your forum and encourage you as much as I have been encouraged.

[Lindaloo]

M: I was  totally there  . . . I had a white baseball cap on . . . . did you remember seeing one?? . . . . I think I left around 5ish . . . a woman approached me at check out and I filled her in on the diet and she going to call Brock tomorrow . . . I was totally thinking about you!! Yep, that's what I figured . . . there's no sugar added so I think it's fine, the sauce. It's weird how the protein before bed works!! M, I also walk on the treadmill everyday with 5lbs of weight . . . I think that really helped me a lot!!

A&M: I stay behind the camera . ..  was a photographer 18 years!!

[mresearcher]

wow thats so funny, to be honest i dont remember seeing a white baseball cap though, i was wet and miserable so i wasn't reall paying attention. but i was thinking about you too, wondering if you were there with me LOL! so a random woman approached you and asked about the diet? thats odd how'd she know?? just in case, i was wearing a black long pea coat wearing eye glases with my hair pulled back, have to look official for my internship! did ya see me??

[Aninani]

Everyone sounds like they are doing great.  Was down .5 this morning so 9 total for me in 16 days.  I found the rebounder and it should be here by Wednesday.  Can't wait to use it!

Loo - Give up some pictures, girl!  Motivate us with before and afters!!!

[Lindaloo]

Ani: I didn't take before photos . . .  couldn't bring myself to . . . I know how fat I was .. . . no tangible reminder necessary!!!
Hey Ani . . . the best Whole Foods Store is on US1 between Sunrise & Oakland . . .  Love it there . . . that use to be my treat of the week to go in for a few items and come out poor but happy!! 9 lbs. doin great girl!!

M: She started talking to me about how great Whole Foods is and she saw I was buying all organic stuff so I mentioned I needed it for the diet and she inquired . . . . I really wasn't paying attention either . . . so we may have passed right by each other. I'll post before I go next time . . . I owe you a nice organic lunch at least!!

[Lindaloo]

Ani: I didn't take before photos . . .  couldn't bring myself to . . . I know how fat I was .. . . no tangible reminder necessary!!!
Hey Ani . . . the best Whole Foods Store is on US1 between Sunrise & Oakland . . .  Love it there . . . that use to be my treat of the week to go in for a few items and come out poor but happy!! 9 lbs. doin great girl!!

M: She started talking to me about how great Whole Foods is and she saw I was buying all organic stuff so I mentioned I needed it for the diet and she inquired . . . . I really wasn't paying attention either . . . so we may have passed right by each other. I'll post before I go next time . . . I owe you a nice organic lunch at least!!

[sunshine222]

hey I just found this group ... I started OCT. 1 and I'm down 13 lbs.

I love all your posts ... but there seems to be something missing on this fourm .... I can't access anything past Oct. 2.  I've heard others reference your menu and recciepies I just can't access them.

I was wondering if you  could repost them and your overall daily plan that you did.

Also I hope you keep posting because I 'm so interested in Phase III and what you do there.... I 'm sure you'll come up with more great tips for us all to benefit from.

thanks

[bigeasy4]

Yea..Oxford is 51/2 hours from Picayune..Ya'll teaching at Ole MS there?...Man..nothing wrong with Chatanooga either...How are you doing on the diet...I been sticking close..down 18 in  12 days..Kinda stuck on  this wt but sure it will start moving again..Good luck on your venture

[veggiegal]

I worked at the hospital.  My husband retired years ago from financial planning.  

We've ordered our hcg and are excited to get started.  I'm nervous about results since I'm a vegetarian.  M's mom is losing very slowly.  My sister in France has lost 10 pounds in 6 days and she thinks I should eat meat just for this diet, but can't do it.  Do you know if it's the protein that's the problem?  

[upinAK]

HELP!!!  After a long day I ended up working a night shift, I don't get home until 6:30am and don't know if I should weight and inject myself before I go to bed??  Doesn't the scale and sleep have a connection?? Maybe I'm just confusing myself or maybe I'm tired, thankfully there is a huge time difference from those of you back east and me in AK,  I need help before I go home in 6 hours..... ??

[ubflossn]

go to brooksidepress.org they show pics as to where im shots should go (shoulder, rear and thigh) and explain in some detail how to do it.  

[ubflossn]

well i did the 100g extra protein in the evening and i didn't lose anything.  but, the flip side of that is i'm due for my visitor and i haven't gained!!  my boobs hurt though (who cares right!) so i'm definately retaining fluid at least there.  so 31 days vlcd still 18.5 lbs.  eru..............we're holding our own!!

[ubflossn]

well welcome aboard.  do your homework and you'll do fine too!  hey all of us together have lost a whole person so far if you add it all up!!

[ubflossn]

you're right.  during sleep you do have changes that occur.  you should come home, do whatever you do before you go to bed (just like the rest of us do) then once you wake up (when ever that is) you empty the bladder, weigh yourself then do your shot.  it will be at a different time than the rest of us but it will be YOUR morning.  good luck!!

[Eruaistaniel]

I had no loss this morning.  Bummer.  So, I'm down 18 1/2 lbs in 28 days.  I hope to be able to get to 20 lbs down by day 30.  Still possible but I don't know.  

[ubflossn]

do not use the echeck service for drugdel.  i ordered on the 4th and it's the 12th and they still haven't cleared it and sent it to pharm!!  i'm going to be out of product and mad here in about a week and a half!

[jennbear73]

I'm glad you said that. I almost did that last time - and was kicking myself for not going with eCheck - thinking it would've got her faster. Shew!! Thank u thank u thank u!!!

Hope you get it soon...

[mommyiam]

Thanks for the injection site info.  I got mine from drug del also, ordered on 9/17, shipped 9/27 (to UK), then shipped 10/3 (to US) arrive here 10/10 (pink slip in box, picked up yesterday from post office).  I guess they have just slowed down since your initial order, more demand maybe.  Also, I ordered enough for 2 complete rounds, maybe for some reason that slows things down? I wouldn't expect it, but you never know.

I am so excited about starting!!!  Must admit I am a bit nervous too.  I first read Kt's book back in March.  I wanted to start right away.  Couldn't find HCG, Dr wouldn't prescribe, OB wouldn't either,  I couldn't even find it in Mexico -- then my OB told me that I should look online, I never thought you could get prescript drugs online without a script.  Wow!  I guess I've been under my rock too long, this internet stuff sure is the way to go.  Then I was overwhelmed with the options, and a bit scared about quality etc.  But then I found you guys.  Thank You so much!!!  I have been able to get everything I need.  And tomarrow I start my journey to a new me (or is it a war? right Loo?)  Good Luck to all you LOSERS!

[Lindaloo]

Hi Sunshine: Welcome aboard  . . you're doin great!! This is our 3rd thread . . . we've gotten so big we had to make more room . . . check the last 2 threads(hcg diet 2 & hcg diet) for menus and other really good info . . but basically I've eaten the same thing for the past 2 months:
Spring Water, mixture of teas(Wu-long, Yabba Mate, Organic Green with lemon & stevia), and black organic coffee

Organic Chicken baked in lemon juice with fresh organic garlic & fresh dill with a veggie

Organic Apple

Wild Chillean Sea Bass baked in lemon juice, garlic & dill with veggie

Ogranic Grapefruit
I also walk on the treadmill everyday for an hour with weights
I'm working on getting ready for phase 3 (tomorrow) . . . going to be nervous to eat again!!

Ub: I'm sorry you didn't lose with the extra protien  . . . it works for me . . . I did it again last night and lost a pound (138 this morning) . . . it's probably your period water retention . . . . keep positive . . . it will start moving again!!!

[ubflossn]

well good luck to you and welcome to the new you!!!  i shoud have ordered enough for 2 rounds but didn't think that far ahead.  this order will include one free vial so a total of 7.  7 more weeks should be enough i hope!!!  i wanted to be done with all this before the holidays ya know!!!  

[mommyiam]

Ok, I tried to find IM shot info on that web site, with no luck.  There was a five min sub q video there, but the only IM thing I saw ws about 3 sec of a video of a person pushing the plunger on the syringe.  If I am just not seeing it, could you possibly explain further?  Else I did find some info (still would feel better with a bit more) from that site that Mresearch recommended.. I'm sure you guys remember how crazy nervous you feel before this first injection.  I know it will work, but can't help feeling nervous.  Thanks sooo much!

[jenniferjo5]

Does anyone know if I can do the Threelac thing while on phase 2?

[Aninani]

Hey everyone!  Loo, thanks for the Whole Foods heads up....must have been a WF day yesterday because I went to the one on University.  I know what you mean about coming out poor but there food is so tasty!

Larry, how are you doing?  Did the extra shots help?

I'm the same this morning but a little backed up if you know what I mean.  Hope things clear out and the scale goes down tomorrow!

[bigeasy4]

Hi..My diet plan reccomends cottage cheese and low fat yogurt for the protien portion if you don't eat meats...I have heard egg whites too but don't know for sure...

[akelly]

I had to do the E-check too...cause they don't take Mastercard. How weird is that? They told me 5 business days for the check to clear. I'm just hoping the priority shipping that i paid an extra 7.50 for actually helps. I'd love to have it in time to start my gorging on Halloween!
I started going organic recently, did everyone gorge on organic stuff? Or just anything goes?

[imalarry]

Hello, I am down a little bit today but tomarrow will be the reall test. I feel pretty good and My overall strength is very high.
Akelly..........I ate almost all organic with the exception of 1 meal out. After reading all I have on procesed food I have a hard time even cosidering eating anything else. It just dose not appeall to me. By the way I found a lot of great on line organic food companys that deliver and have graet stuff made all 100 % organic. Lots of stuff I have never seen before.Some stuff is a little pricy but I figure I will save it in health care cost over the long run. I think it is just like car mantance, spend a little now or a lot later.

I hope everyone is feelin good and I will check in later.

[melcot]

I'm on injection 21 today and I've been taking Threelac the whole time.  I lost 20 lbs so far.  The hardest part for me was not putting anything on my lips.  All the lipstick I looked at had some kind of oil or fat in it.  

Also, Trudeau says to continue the vlcd for two days after your last shot, but Simeons says in his paper to continue for three days.  Has anyone gone this far and tried it out??  I'm about done with phase 2 and I could use some advice!

[Lindaloo]

Jenn:  I was doing 3lac in phase 1 then I stopped it during phase 2 will pick it up agian tomorrow during phase 3.
Melcot . . . so the 3lac didn't impede your weight loss?? I start phase 3 tomorrow . . . my last shot was Wed. so I was going to start phase 3 tomorrow . . . I'm not sure if I should wait another day too?? I'd love to lose another pound or 5!!

[bigeasy4]

I got my plan thru NHW and they say stay on the VLCD for two days after the shots end...

[ubflossn]

are you kidding................after the first shot i waited for the embolism to kill me!!!!  you'll do fine.  i'm not sure how to get to that site because i put the page in favorites and it doesn't show the rest.  try to put "IM shot" in your search engine and see what you get.  that's how i found that site.  truth is though i do a sub q shot so i'm no help.  

[melcot]

No, the Threelac didn't impede weight loss.  I've lost 20 lbs in 21 days.  Maybe I would have lost faster, don't know.  

I don't know what to do about waiting a third day either.  I think I'm going to follow Simeons' rule because there are other discrepancies  I've found in Trudeau's book.  I would hate to put on weight the last day -  Maybe  there is someone out there who has done only two days and been successful??!!  Sure would like to hear from them.

Congratulations ,Lindaloo, on finishing phase 2!!!

[Lindaloo]

Thanks  . . . feels good to be at the end of that phase!!! I'm making homemade tomato sauce as we speak for tomorrow . . . smells soooooooooo good . . . I never made sauce before . . . I like it, it's fun!!!

I wanted to use the 3lac during phase 2 cause I think I may have a candida issue . ..  I've lost 42lbs today and I still have a puffy tummy . . . so I was thinking the 3lac may help me!!

Let me know what you decide to do . . . I don't think I'll be able to wait an extra day with this sauce a brewin!!

[melcot]

I can almost smell the sauce from here!  I got my first colonic yesterday and my stomach is so flat today!! It's not exactly fun, but it doesn't hurt either.  None of this is exactly fun!   I will probably do more of those later on.

Let me know how tomorrow goes.  If you do well with only two days follow up, I may do the same.  My fiancee can't wait for me to be eating normally again. How much hCG were you taking??  I am taking .35 cc/day  from a 5000iu solution.

[jenniferjo5]

Thanks for your replies! I am so excited for you Lindaloo for being through with phase 2 and down so much weight! I know you are so ready!
Melcot- I read some others on the yahoo discussion forum that were saying that you are supposed to wait 72 hours from your last shot to begin phase 3.

[Lindaloo]

I was on Native Healing Ways shots . .  they have them all ready to go so I never really paid much attention to the actual quantities (seems so much easier then what everyone else is doing) I believe it was 175 units (what ever that means) a day. . . . I'm almost afraid to eat tomorrow . . we'll see what happens.

[imalarry]

Well My hunger has continued today and I am of the feeling I have developed an early imunity to hcg. I was told after 40 days a person absolutlly builds imunity quicklly. I have read also that the dose I was taking ( 250 iu sub q ) could bring that on quicker. I was not really hungery till day 26 and then it really started to hit me. So here I am 25 lbs lighter with about 10 or so lbs to go and I have not lost for 5 days despite the new hcg. I think I am going to do the holding patern and finish my course right after turkey day. Then I will also be at home for phase 3 instead of traveling. I will still be checking in to let you know how my holding phase goes.  Great luck to all, have a great weekend.

[Lindaloo]

Lar: Did you try the apple day??

[veggiegal]

Thanks for the diet info.  I think the cottage cheese with the apple would be a pretty good lunch.  I hadn't thought about yogurt, but that sounds good also.  I just hope the veggie choices don't hinder my loss once I get started.

[mresearcher]

Loo: thats sounds great we should cordinate a day at whole foods and a yummy lunch, maybe when im on phase 3, which will be not this upcoming tuesday but the tuesday after. CANT WAIT TO EAT AGAIN!

Also last night i ate 100 grams of chicken before bed and i lost a whole pound this morning, which is great for me i've been losing very slowly lately. Thanks so much for the tip Loo!

Bigeasy and Veggiegal: i was trying to use egg whites and cottage cheese too because im not a big meat eater and chicken makes me gag, but on the days i ate those i never lost alot the next day in fact sometimes i lost nothing, so after a while i gave up on those two items. maybe they'll work for you, but all they did was slow me down alot. Also my mother is a vegetarian and she's been having an awful time with the diet. She has lost 10 pounds in 25 days! its really coming off slowly for her and yes i think its a protein deficiency issue.

As far as phase 3: i keep reading that you must wait 72 hours from your last injection until starting phase 3, so synchronize your watches ladies!!

To Everyone: after 25 days of vlcd im finally down 20.5 pounds! it feels fantastic and just 6.5 more pounds to go until my goal weight.. YAY!!

[ubflossn]

you'll be partying it up with looloobelle soon!!!  lucky ducks!!  well folks it's been 32days of faithful vlcd and i'm down 19.5lbs.  very much short of the kt guarantee of 30lbs in 30 days.  i don't know what i could have done different so i just must assume every "body"  is different.  i'm very happy though and looking forward to 20 more!!!  so since i've ordered the product and started really paying attention i have lost a total of 23lbs and what a difference it makes.  i can only imagine what i'll feel like after i lose the rest!  

good luck at weigh in everyone.  also, for those that are not into the meat things remember to use organic yogurt of cottage cheese if you substitute.  you don't want to add any of the hormones or steroids that are associated with traditional milk based products.  also expect to have more of a problem "eliminating" because milk products do that too.  

[Lindaloo]

Wow, I can't believe this . . . I've been waiting for this day for 55 days and now that it's here . . . I'm not hungry & I don't want to eat!!! I made all this yummy food in preparation for day one of phase 3 and now I don't want it . .. can you imagine? It's eary . . .we'll see what the day brings! I think you were right Ub, we may have embarked on a new eating disorder!!

[Eruaistaniel]

I lost another 1/2 pound this morning.  After 29 days I've lost 19 pounds.

[lgstarchild]

Are you feeling any anxiety about starting Phase 3?  I start on SUnday, and I am so nervous to eat somewhat normally again.  Are we supposed to lose any weight during this time?  I went to TraderJoe's and bought all kinds of organic meats and cheeses.  
Can I have organic cranberries sweetened with organic sugar in phase 3 ?
I know phase 3 is for 3 weeks, but am I able to start the injections again after that?  I lost 14 pounds in Phase 2 but my goal was 20.  
Any help is appreciated.  
Thanks for the advice, ubflossn and mresearcher

[jenniferjo5]

I am also going through Native Healing Ways. I gave myself the first shot this morning. Do you happen to know if we are supposed to email or fax our food journal to them. I didn't receive any instructions about staying in contact with them. Good luck on P3!

[Lindaloo]

Lgstar: Yes, much anxiety . . . but I did it; I ate just ate my first bite of real food (all organic: egg whites, veggies, cheddar cheese, turkey bacon pie) after the first bite I waited a while then I scoffed it up . . . . I put my organic eggplant parm in the oven for tonight . . . we'll see????? I don't think we are suppose to lose or gain more then 2lbs during this phase or else we have to do the steak dinner day. I'm not sure about the cran juice star, I'd juice my own and add stevia if you like.

Jenn: I didn't send them anything . . . I emailed Brock every 2 weeks just to let her know how I was doing and thank her!!

[melcot]

14 lbs is great!!!!
In Simeons' paper he strictly forbids sugar of any kind in phase 3, and mentions that keeping the carbs low is important.  Trudeau also says to eliminate sugar, but then contradicts himself in the summary of phase 3 (pg 220) and says to use stevia, agave nectar, organic raw honey, and organic raw cane sugar as your sweeteners of choice.  I think if you keep your carbs low, a teaspoon of one of these here and there shouldn't hurt . After all, fruit has sugar in it to.

[mystikldrmr]

I lost 10lbs since beginning the vlcd Monday.  I chose not to weigh in this morning because "my friend" came to stinkin' visit...ugh!!  I knew better than to get on the scale with IT here.  It would've probably discouraged me.  One thing that I am thankful, though. is that normally IT shows up when you don't want it to but with starting yesterday and not taking shots through the weekend, I was happy and felt pretty lucky.....maybe I need to try my luck at the lottery, huh??...lol.

Anyhoo, congrats to everyone!!

[jennbear73]

I know I  have a while before the 2nd time I go through this - but does anyone know - after the 6 week break - do we do a 3 day gorge again? I'm thinking yes to make sure you body is in the "mode" to lose weight???  I know Simeons says after shots - 3 days of continued VLCD - then 3 weeks of No Starches or Surgars - last 3 weeks slowly incorporating everything before starting again.

Anyway - I've been thinking about it - and it just makes sense to rev your body up again. But if someone difinitivly - let me know - I'd like to know for future reference.

[mommyiam]

Jennifer, This was my first shot day too!!  Hopefully we can keep each other motivated.  I msut say, and I can't beleive I am saying this, but I am having trouble gorging.  Isn't it crazy!!  Normally I would kill to be able to eat as much as I could, but not today.  I am still forcing myself to eat, but not sure what is enough?  I am so glad to finally start this program!

It took me much longer to mix up my first batch of stuff this morning than I expected.  I am using 27gauge, 1 1/4 inch needles, and I didn't realize how long it would take to draw out the bac water...but I think I got it right mixed for 175ius. Well I gotta run to the store for some grub for this week, want to cook it up tomarrow best of luck all!

[jennbear73]

Has anyone else had your hear just start racing? - I'll go hours being fine and then my heart just starts racing....

Just wondering.

[lgstarchild]

My heart did not race while doing phase 2, however I had much difficulty walking up 3 flights of stairs to my classroom 3 times a day. My legs hurt so much that I would stop half way up "pull" myself up the rest.  Somewhere I read though that it had to do with the rapid weight loss, I did lose several inches in my legs.
I held off today on my last injection because I've been the same weight for 2 days "visitor" and I didn;t want my last day to be a stall.  So, it looks like Phase 3 starts on Thursday for me.  Gee, I hope my Trader Joe stuff I bought will last that long.
Good luck to the rest of the crew, keep losing!
Melcot-  Thanx, i'm ditching the organic dried cranberries for now.
Lindaloo-- Organic eggplant sounds yummy.  Did you make your own sauce?  I think we should start a new thread called Phase Three HCG Recipes.  What do ya think?

[melcot]

I would love some phase 3 recipes!  I start phase 3 on Thursday!
Lindaloo- How did your first phase 3 day go??  Any advice?? Can't wait to start eating normally again.

[Lindaloo]

lgstar: I did. I made my own organic tom sauce with veggies and cooked my organic meat and put that in too then today I made the eggplant parm with the meat sauce and I made an organic egg, veggie, turkey backon pie (so I've got pleanty for the week) . . . . that sounds like good idea the redipe thread!!

melcot: I don't know . . . I ate my yummy food today but my body is def not use to it . . . my tummy blew up and I had to use big red to relieve myself . . . I think I may eat more like in phase 2 but just more of it . . . too big of a change all at once for my digestive system, I think . . . I need to take it slower!! I just took a 2 hour nap because the food knocked me out!!

[Eruaistaniel]

Thanks for the tip about 100 grams of protein before bed, Lindaloo.  I tried it yesterday and lost 2 lbs this morning.  I've lost 21 pounds in 30 days.

[mystikldrmr]

How long have you been doing the vcld??  I wanted to take Lindaloo's advice too about the 100g before bed but I felt that I was still too early into it.  (Day 6 of the vcld for me today.)

[Eruaistaniel]

I've been doing the vlcd for 30 days.  Today is day 31 for me.

[ubflossn]

well eru/loo i tried the extra chicken at bedtime and i didn't lose!!  i didn't gain either and i'm so ready for my period i think my boobs are going to pop (am i allowed to say that in print??)!!  so being premens i guess i should just be happy to stay in the 160's!!!  same as yesterday though.  33days vlcd and 19.5lbs.  not bad!  

[Lindaloo]

Eru & Mresearcher: That's awesome . . . I'm so glad it's working for you guys . . . don't worry Ub, it's the period . . try it again after the period is gone . . . mystik - I think it's too early for that . . I'd wait another week when you have a slow down. . .  I'm doing terrible after eating my first day . . . I'll fill you in later . . . got an open house today!!!

[mystikldrmr]

Thank you all for the advice.  I'll certainly wait until closer to the end before I start eating that extra protein.  I'm evidently a day behind on myself.  Today is day 7 of the vlcd.

Ub:  That's exactly the reason why I've not weighed in this weekend...."Aunt Flo(w)" came.  What's really odd is that I never had any pms.  I'm not complaining at all...lol, I just found it odd.

[ubflossn]

i usually get a little swollen in the breast area but i get really swollen in the belly area!  not really crampy but i retain a lot of fluid and get really bitchy!  that part is not bad (or so i'm told) but the last period i had on this i lost weight during then towards the end i just stayed the same.  now i'm just holding my own.  i did bleed for long time on the last one so we'll have to see.  don't you just love being a woman!!!

[jenniferjo5]

Do you happen to know why NHW says no caffiene? I love my morning coffee, even if its black. Kevin T.'s book says unlimited coffee. I just wonder which is best.

[jenniferjo5]

Do you happen to know why NHW says no caffiene? I love my morning coffee, even if its black. Kevin T.'s book says unlimited coffee. I just wonder which is best.

[Charpete]

HI.  I'M NEW HERE.     I'VE BEEN DOING DR. SIMEON'S DIET THROUGH A LOCAL NATUROPATHIC PHYSICIAN NEAR MY HOMETOWN.     I'VE LOST 13.8 LBS IN 15 DAYS.     I'M RECEIVING THE VIAL OF HCG ONCE PER WEEK AND I GIVE MYSLF THE SHOT EVERY MORNING AFTER I EMPTY THE BLADDER AND WEIGH.       I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THE DIET TO A T. AND FIND IT VERY EASY.     MY APPETITE IS SUPPRESSED AND FIND MY REFLUX AND SINUS HEADACHES TO HAVE DISAPPEARED.      I HAVE JUST HAD MY FIRST PERIOD SINCE STARTING THE DIET AND WENT OFF THE SHOTS ONLY ON THE HEAVY FLOW DAYS.   IT SEEMS THAT AFTER I WENT BACK ON THE SHOT AFTER THE PERIOD MY WEIGHT LOSS INCREASED.  AFTER YEARS OF TRYING TO TAKE OFF THOSE LAST 30 LBS (I LOST 30 ON WEIGHT WATCHERS), THIS PROTOCOL IS HAS WORKED THE BEST FOR ME.    I GUESS I'M WRITING TO FIND OTHERS FOR SUPPORT AND TO SEE IF I CAN LEARN FROM YOUR EXPERIENCES AS WELL.

[Duck2Swan]

I hope you have time to answer one quick question ... I am about to start the Simeons plan and HCG injections but I have an INTOLERANCE to fruit. I can not eat apples, berries, grapefruits, etc! In Simeons diet, he says you can not eat an extra piece of melba toast (or other substitute) in place of the fruit. Please - what can I do? I can NOT eat fruit but I do not want to screw up this diet, I am 100% committed to doing this exactly right - can you help me?! Thanks so much

[ubflossn]

welcome aboard to both of you.  sounds like you (charp) have been doing everything all right!  13.8lbs in 15days is amazing!  i'm sure you'll do just as well the rest of the way.
swan...........i don't know what to say about that one.  maybe you can do extra of the veggies.  the melba would not be a good substitues but pos you would do ok with extra veg.  don't know if i'd mix them in a meal but maybe twice as many or something?

[mresearcher]

hello everyone.. im not happy! i've been the same weight 131.5 for 3 full days so tomorrow im an APPLE GIRL! well this is it.. monday morning marks the start of my very last week on the protocol. i miss eating so much its killing me, but the things i miss the most i have to wait very long for.. like the bread, granolas, and pastas.. thats the stuff i miss the most.

well i didnt lose the "promised" pound per day either ladies, after 27 days of vlcd im down 20.5 pounds. of course im very happy but i still have 6.5 pounds until my goal and 7 days to do it.. doesnt seem like its gonna happen which really sucks!!!!! and i cant take another week of this anyway!

goodnight everyone.. happying weighing tomorrow

[ubflossn]

well if it makes you feel any better i had an extra apple and some strawberries tonight (must be my cheat day)!!  i've been so hungry today this period is kicking my butt!!  i'm sure i'll suffer tomorrow at weigh in but i couldn't help it!!

[jenniferjo5]

Hey Mommy. I start my vlcd tomorrow, do you? Good luck! I am dreading the hunger,  but looking forward to seeing if this will work for me! Let me know how you do.