Dr.Simeons Hcg Diet Group

[Lindaloo]

I said the same thing . . . I did 2 steak days in the first week of P3

[DLoser]

Hi: I've been following the posts for some time.  First time commenting.  I am in week two of phase 3 and was able to lose 5 lbs.  Introducing fat back into your diet is tricky, try sticking with low fat dairy products; I've never liked the taste but after 40+ days of depleting your fat storage our bodies will want to store fat at the first sign so don't give it the chance.

[Sanijia]

yes I did 7wks on the shot starting on 07/16/07 then after the 7wks I had to do a 4 wks off with a protein diet to reset my hy******* (can't spell it) at the weight I was at but I cheated and gain 12lbs. back then I restarted the shots the 1st of this month.I actually go to the clinic and get the shots and to me it seems more like Dr. S. I did exactly 49 days and yes I was suppose to gorge 3 days not 2 I take the first shot on a friday (always on fridays) then I eat what ever I want for that weekend then monday I start the hcg and they told me not to start my gallon of water until monday. But I never did the gorge thing but I will my next round of shots. I got to do at least two more round I just estimate that each round i can lose at least 40lbs. but if I get down to 195lb by the time my 7wks is up I will have lost 52lbs. So I am at 222 and I have 27lbs to go and I am on my fourth week so I have 3 more weeks. I estimate if I lose 6 every week I can do it. On the clinic diet I do it is a VLCD 2breads/2fruits/2 vegetables/2meats 3oz......I don't eat bread alot anyway so I don't eat any bread while on the hcg because that is just me.....they wanted me to but I just don't have the diet so I do follow their protocol but I tweak it a little I either do 500cal or lower. I just started to walk an hour 3x a week so we will see.

[Eruaistaniel]

Today is my last day on the shots.  I weighed 161 this morning.  In all I've lost 22 pounds in 40 days.  

[amy12345]

Did you get you hcg? I think Im going to start Sat

[ubflossn]

congrats!  i'm getting married soon too!  this is going to work for us.  all of us....maybe on different timetables but we'll all get there.  
i know sometimes it seems to go nowhere.  sometimes i get on the scale and it shows no change then i get on 6 more times and it shows a bit of an increase or something........i've learned not to be neurotic about it and take the very first weight whatever it is and get off the scale and write it down and forget about it.  we are people and things are never the same for any 2.  when the scale hasn't moved for 3 days or so it is discouraging but remember a couple things we know......if you haven't had a BM in a few days, that makes a difference......if your body is gobbling up those fat cells and they haven't been eliminated yet, that makes a difference........if you're about to reach a weight you had been at in your life for a while you will get stuck there for several days........that makes a difference.   just keep on doing what we're doing and things will catch up!!  take it easy on yourself.....maybe when you see the numbers stall it just means your body has to catch up with itself a bit.....it will start to move again soon!!

[ubflossn]

so you're heading into phase 3 with loo and the girls!!  congrats!!  you can relax and maintain now right?  are you going to be happy with that weight or will you be joining me for another go round??  i've lost 23.5lbs but i'm not thrilled with that amount.  i still want to lose 20 or so more.  we'll see?!

[ubflossn]

i must be computer crazy but i can't find that website for hcg recipes............what's the trick?

[KWash]

Thank you for the encouragement Lindaloo and UBflossin you 2 are right, my body needs to catch up!This morning I'm down 1 pound after three days of my weight staying @ 222, I'm down to 221. Today is the day I skip my shot. I read a par t of the Simeon's manual last night that stated after the 4th or 5th day of VLCD, your weight may not move for 2-3 days, then it will be a sudden drop, and the weight loss will make up for the days that the scale did not show a loss. This protocol is quite acurate. God Bless

[GRACIEGIRL2]

UPDATE:  after 3 full days of vlcd  down 8.4lbs.  I must say it hasn't been easy!  By the end of the day I am ready to eat anything in sight!  Not because I'm hungry.  I guess it is habit to nibble while cooking.  Oh I hope the urge goes away soon!
I have been taking cold medicine for the last 3 days also.  Bad case of broncitis.  I think I will have to die to feel better.  Maybe the medicine is not helping as far as the cravings?

[sonia2715]

Thanks for the encouragement.  Each day the weight drops however i am realizing a decline in the weight dropped each day. First 3.2lbs then 2.4lbs then1.6lbs then 1.4lbs and this morning another 1.2 lbs... putting me at 192.2 lbs.  My next short term goal is 188, which will put me at an overall 30 lb drop since I first weight 2 days prior to my first injection in the first treatment.  That will be a milestone.  Then I want to get to 179.9.  My hope is that I continue to lose at least 1 lb per day.

Amazing how my body is being reshaped in all the right places.  Ive gone from a 16/18 to a 12/14 and I am still almost 200 lbs.  My 14 jeans are falling off, yet the 12s are too tight for my taste.

Does anyone else have a testimony of how your body is being reshaped.  Also, one of my clients commented that I look so young.  My laugh lines have smoothed.  This is great.  Praise the Lord

[sonia2715]

Since I started the treatment almost a week ago, I have had beef everyday.  Do you think that the weight will drop more if I changed to chicken.  Any insight?

[Eruaistaniel]

No.  I'm not happy with 161.  I will probably be joining you for a second go around in January.  I'm going to hold off until after the holidays too.  I want to lose 36 more pounds.  Unless I do much better next time, I expect it to take 3 rounds.  I plan to order from drug delivery next time so I can get the 6 amps of 1500.  I might do better.  If I plan to inject 200, how much bac water do I mix in the 1500 amps?  

[Sanijia]

good morning I have a appt tomorrow to get my last 3 weeks of shots and I also take a shot tomorrow too. Wish me happy HCG!!!

[soexcited]

ub - the web site for the recipe book is www.hcgdietinfo.com.   After you are on the site in the left column click on hcg diet recipes..scroll down to the shrimp recipe and just above it in blue is hcg recipes Ebook, click on that and your there.  Hope this helps.  So far the recipies have been great tonight i'm having soup. YUM YUM!!!

Day 11 on vlcd own another 1.8 for a total of 17.2.  WOW!!!!  I'm so happy.  Had a couple of slow days.....contribute that to my body trying to catch up.  Yesterday is the day I skipped hcg did great, but was really ready to eat at dinner time.  The biggest blessing on this program is i'm not hungry, and when I do get hungry it's almost time to eat so i'm OK.  The cravings have pretty much gone away too.  I still catch myself thinking about certain food or restuarants.  That when I distract my self (casting down vain imaginations) and move on to something else.  Going good!!


Congratulation to Sonia and Ub - Wow getting married...and with a whole new body. Awesome!!

Broke down last night lotioned my body down good, couldn't stand it anymore.  I'm going to believe it's not going to make any difference....we'll see.

Praise God for another day to try and get it right!!!!!!

[GRACIEGIRL2]

mix 1cc in your hcg ampule to disolve it and 6.5cc to your empty sterile vacuum bottle for a total of 7.5cc of bac water.  this equals 200iu in a 1cc injection.  
This info came from hcgsupplies . com if you want to look it up.  I got all my supplies from there.
Everything you need except hcg.

[GRACIEGIRL2]

You are doing so good!!  Keep up the good work!!
Sometimes you gotta break down and do what you know your body needs.
I have been using lotion every other day since I started back in phase 1.  If weight loss slows down too much then I will try something different.

[akelly]

well, drugdelivery is sending my shipment via some kind of express shipping and said i should have it by the end of the week....oh GOD i hope so, i can't bloody wait!

my only concern is how much to inject. i'm doing sub-q, so i'm wondering if the higher doses of 175-200 would work better since it isn't going into the muscle...? or if that matters at all.
Seems like in the protocol Simmeons just uses 125 regardless of how big the person is. I have a LOT to lose...what to do? what to do?

[ann113]

Thanks for responding to my post and the encouragement. I did a little more research and found that if I've already been training regularly before starting this protocol I should be okay. Looks like I'm still losing steadily so I feel more comfortable continuing my training.

[GRACIEGIRL2]

I chose to do 150iu.  Kinda in between the 125 & 200. May up it later on if loss slows down.
Have you ordered your supplies yet?  

[Lindaloo]

Hi Doll: I didn't eat any beef the whole P2 . . . orgaic Chicken & Wild Chillean Sea Bass every day for 55 days . . . . .I noticed when I stared eating it in P3 I put some lbs back on . . so .. . yes I think it would help to switch to chic & fish!! Try it and see how it works for ya . . .  good luck, Loo

[ubflossn]

well 1500 divided by 200 is 7.5.  so you need 1 to mix the powder then another 6.5 water to make 7.5 total.  you always lose a tiny bit though.  it may not last you the 7.5 days but you can get 7 for sure.  

[ubflossn]

sorry girl!  didn't see you had answered eru!  at least we're in agreement about the protocol huh?

[sanpedromom]

I've been following all of your posts and am so happy everyone is doing so well.  

I found a recipe book at hcgrecipes dot net, not dot com.  Hope that helps.

aunt flo came to visit today and still lost 1.3 . this program is amazing and I am so grateful.

Sonia - I ate beef one day and my loss slowed, so I decided to stick to chicken and fish.

[sanpedromom]

well, I did a really blonde thing today and left for work without my pre-cooked chicken.  I have everything else I need but that.  I went over to the supermarket my my work and could only find
organic turkey breast that I will have to microwave (oh no!).  I will hold off on doing that if someone
has a better idea in a pinch.  If you think "natural chicken breast would be better, I'll go and exchange it.  What do you think?         thanks for your help

[GRACIEGIRL2]

I ate organic turkey breast during phase 1 and still lost weight.  It has more fat than chicken and Dr. Simeons states no substitutions for chicken. Phase 2 I am not eating it.

I buy "natural chicken breast" quite often.  I know KT says natural don't mean anything, but it is cheaper and easier to get.  The meat manager told me it was just as good as organic, free range birds, no antibiotics or hormones.  The company just didn't pay the extra moneys to have usda certified organic on the label.  Who knows!!!

[melcot]

Lindaloo:  I was reading in KT's book that the liver cleanse and the heavy metal cleanse should be done in phase 4, but he doesn't say why.  I would love to get that over with in phase 3 - how are you doing on those??  Do you think it's fine to do them in phase 3?

All:  Does anyone know if we can do a shorter course of hCG the second time around?  I don't have much more weight to lose and I know Simeons says he doesn't give shorter treatments than 23 injections.  Has there been any research since then on this??

[GRACIEGIRL2]

Try this site for recipes....its free

http://hcgrecipes.blogspot.com

[lgstarchild]

During Phase 2 while I was in a workshop and didn't bring my own food, I went to Burger King and ordered a Tender Grilled Chicken Salad with no dressing, but with lemon juice packets.  I took out the tomatoes and carrots.  I had my scale in the car and weighed the grilled chicken they give you in the bag.  It weighed 100 grams cooked.  I ate the whole thing knowing it would be over the ounces slightly but lost 1.6 pounds the next day.
If in a pinch, Burger King to the rescue!
Good luck

[svltdebo]

darnmmmmm.......if I am taking 1 1/2 cc's per day of the 5000iu mixture, then that is too much ??  

[hunniegurl]

I have been reading some of the post of this page.  All of the information is interesting.  I started HCG on 10/15/07.  I am going through a medical doctor and take it orally.  As of today I down 15 lbs.  I am so excited with the results but I am really bored with the food.  Any suggestions?

[Lindaloo]

Mel: I'm doing the colonix(bowel), 3lac (candida), Pectosol(metal) now . . then in P4 I'll do the liver then the parasite then the final fat flush cleanse from that place that KT suggested (can't remember the name) . . . I think it's ok . . I want to get it all done . . ya know . . . My headaches have gone away so . . .??

[akelly]

i've had my supplies for a while now actually. i got enough for 6 weeks doing sub-q. and i am getting 15 ampules of 1500i.u. (tomorrow i think...) so i think that should be enough for two rounds.

i'm just wondering if i should up the dosage since it is a sub-q injection and i have plenty to lose.....? i think 150 sounds like a good number. maybe that would help with the math end of it.

[akelly]

what have you been eating so far?

[sonia2715]

Does ANYBODY know why you have to cease injections during your cycle.  The HCG help me to not feel hungry all day.  4-5 days off may prove horriffic without injections during my cycle.

[ubflossn]

i guess it depends on how much bac water you mix with it?  

[ubflossn]

i think we've established that you will bleed much heavier if you don't stop.  i don't know though.  the most i've gone is 3 days without and i did continue to lose during the cycle.  not really starving either.  

[sonia2715]

Cool.  Thanks.

[ubflossn]

i checked out that site and some of the sample recipes look great! did you buy the ebook?  it's sort of expensive but looks like there's adaptations for phase 3 too.  i would have never thought of fixing food that way though..........i'm not that clever!

[jennbear73]

Hey all -

Just wanted to give a quick update. I cheated today - so I'm sure the scale will reflect a lb gain - but I've let it go.

I'm down 25lbs!! Woohoo - the last 4-5 days have been kinda hard because I'm finally coming off my monthly. grr - I was flowing so bad that I didn't take injections for 2 days - I think that's why my cravings have been all over the place.

Anyway - I'm looking forward to the next few weeks left !!!

Great losses everyone!

[GRACIEGIRL2]

Good Morning to everyone!
This is the start of day 5 of vcld...down a total of 9.8lbs in phase 2.

I really have been hungry!!!!  Not really craving anything (of course everything sounds yummie)
I'm thinking of increasing injections to 175iu after a full week, if the hunger does not ease.  I'll try that for a week and if it doesn't work I'll go to 200iu

I ate vlcd during phase 1 and was never this hungry.  Of course I had a little more in phase 1.
It is amazing the difference that 2 pieces of fruit and an organic egg make.

ub...didn't you start at a lower dose and increased it later on?

[sonia2715]

I lost .6lbs and now I am down a total of 10.4 lbs in 9 days.  I will start eating more chicken, but I am grateful.

[KWash]

Well good Morning everyone!
As of this morning (10/26/2007), I am still @ 221 pounds for the second day in a row, before that I stayed @ 222 for 3 days in a row. I got worried, but I am chosing not to worry anymore. I thank God that at leat my weight is not going up... Praise God for that! for the past 3 days, I have been using Burt's Beeswax chapstick, hopefully that has nothing to do with it. However I am coming to the closing of my second week on Saturday. Sunday begins my third week. Hoefully from here on out I will lose at least 1 pound a day. Total loss as of date: 13.5 pounds. God Bless everyone, keep up the good work!

[soexcited]

Well today I gained 2lbs without any reason. I noticed last night my left ankle was a little puffy.  Didn't think much of it...looks like perhapes i'm holding some fluid...don't know why.  
Tomorrow is another day and today I choose not to be discouraged.

The next time I use lotion I will notice if I get a weight spike.  Looks like trying to conform my life after this protocal may contain so trial and error.  Oh well, it is a life change after all.  I am still amazed that I have had the weight lose that I have, adjusting for my 2lb gain total is 15.8.  THAT is a true blessing.  Tomorrow starts week 3 for me.

www.shrinkyourself.com
Found this web site....it addresses emotional eating.  Has some good suggestions.
Happy reading!!

You guy's have an awesome week-end!!!!!

[hunniegurl]

Grilled chicken, filet sole and halibut.  Cauliflower, broccoli, spinach, tomatoes and cucumbers.   The hardest part for me is only have one cup of coffee because I drink non diary creamer in my coffee and I can only have 1T a day.  

[mommyiam]

Howdy everyone!  Soexcited, I was sorry to hear about your gain, are you close to the visitor?  And KWash, I too am a bit leary of lotion, I try not to use it, my skin is really dry and it itches (my fingers are cracking) I used a bit yesterday and it did not effect my loss, but earlier this week I used more and followed with a zero loss day.  till trying to figure out whether the lotion makes a difference.

I have had great results on this diet!  I wasn't home yesterday to post, so yesterday lost 1.2, and this morning another 1.8 -- total loss in 11 days of VLCD 20.8 lbs!!!  I have felt really good.  Today I was craving fast food for some reason, but did not cave in!  

UB Quick question, and I hope this isn't too much info, I started spotting yesterday, my period is still 1.5 weeks away (started this protocol right after my last and starting day 12--plus gorge--so 14 days ago).  I am taking BCP so I know when it is suppose to come.  I thought I remembered you saying that in the beginning you had some too?  I am wondering if it is the HCG, and how long it will last?  Other than being a bit tired I feel just like everyother day, guess its nothing to worry about.

Thanks so much and Good Luck!

[KWash]

20 pounds in 11 days, Praise God! That is Awsome, you go girl! However, I too have started spotting, very lightly, I noticed for the past 2 days, and my period is not due until almost 2 weeks from now, November 8th to be exact. Keep me updated on this situation please. And I am craving soul food from Lucille's (BB King's restaurant) Baby Back Ribs, Mac&Cheese, Biscuts with apple butter....... and I am going crazy for some Pizza right now! What makes it worse is they ordered like 20 pizzas @ work today. My co-worker and I split a slice in half and I sniffed mine until the craving went away, then trashed it. That works for me, if I just sniff what I am craving,  the craving goes away.

[GRACIEGIRL2]

Mommy GREAT job.  That is a lotta weight for 11 days.    Fast food!  Thats so funny.  I craved it too.
The weird part is we never eat fast food.  Wonder why I craved it?  Must be TV commercials.

Soexcited I know you are excited!  Even with the gain you are averaging a lb./day.  What other diet can you lose that much in 2 weeks.  Drink LOTS of water!!!

All.....Have a great weekend!!!  Be strong!!!  Don't give in to those cravings!!!

[GRACIEGIRL2]

Please!!!!  Don't be sooooo graphic!!!  :-) lol  You know I'm starving here.  I can smell that biscuit now!

I will have to try that.  I don't know if I can trust myself to just smell

[akelly]

so I finally got my order....IT WAS PACKAGED IN A TURKISH PUZZLE BOX WITH PUZZLE PIECES WHICH WAS FLATTENED.....AND ALMOST EVERY VIAL WAS SMASHED.

I cannot even believe this...

[GRACIEGIRL2]

OMG!! What a bummer.  If it wasn't for bad luck, you would have NO luck at all!
Did yours come 3 vials of hcg in a box with sterile water?
I ordered 6 boxes of 3-1500iu.  It was wrapped in brown paper and then put in a bubble envelope.
The label read childs toy.  I guess because of customs.
Did you call dd?  What are they gonna do now?

[ubflossn]

yes i did.  but still i think i was higher than you to start.  i was at about 187 and went to 200.  i'm not sure.....some days i just feel hungry with or without the increase.  i think i'm coming to the end of the first phase2 and my body is needing a break.  i've lost 24 during this phase and 4 more pounds during my attempt at phase 1 while i was waiting for all the products to arrive so it's a total of 28lbs.  i was hoping to see 35 before the end but i guess i'll have to be happy with 30.  i only have a short time left before i go into maintainance.  i'll be back though for another round after the holidays and i think i'll order that recipe ebook to keep things interesting.  the chili smells awesome cooking right now!  but answer to your question i did increase to 200 after a couple weeks.  i think that was a good move for me.

[ubflossn]

i'm not on the pill so i don't know about breakthru bleeding associated with that.  my first cycle (started 10 days exactly after i started.........one week before it was due which i though was strange) i took off only 2 days of shots and i bled like crazy the first day or two.  then i continuously spotted for 2 full weeks.  also pretty weird.  one week is normal for me but 2 was odd.  my second period came 3 days late and i skipped 3 days of shots and i didn't have the ongoing spotting.  maybe 3-4 days after the bleeding stopped.  i'm glad i'll be in phase 3 for the next one but i'm not sure what to say about your situation.

[ubflossn]

no way!!!  that was from drugdelivery??? OMG!!  i'd be having a fit!  did you have to sign for the package?  did you accept/keep it in that condition???  are you the one that was getting a special shipment because it was coming from the wrong area??  i'd be peeved!!

FYI!   i made 2 of the recipes from that sample ebook and OMG!  both were awesome.  i had apple chicken salad for lunch and an awesome bowl of chili tonight for dinner.  i am actually stuffed which is a feeling i'm totally NOT familiar with anymore!  i think i'm going to order the ebook and shell out the money.  if those are what's in there i need that book!  this bland food is killin me!!

[akelly]

It stunk like cigarettes too....ug
Drug Delivery asked me to email them a picture of it. I won't EVER order from them again. I am so creeped out by the whole thing-just looks so unprofessional. Each pack is 3 tiny vials of HCG and 3 even tinier vials of bac water i guess. I have to look closely to see what I'm supposed to do but there is glass smashed all over everything along with the bac water and HCG crystals....I wish doctors would just do this!

[akelly]

yes...you are right about the luck thing!!! i seem to fall into the murphys law category a little too often for my liking. I think I have enough to last at least one round. I forget who advised I get enough for 2 rounds but thanks! I'm glad I did since half are okay!!

[akelly]

no wait, the little vials of liquid are solvent i think...i need to start reading up if i'm going to stick my belly tomorrow!!

[ubflossn]

the little vials are solvent yes but you are supposed to disregard those because they don't contain enough to get you the concentration you need for  a week.  did you order the bac water and needles from some other place?  please be careful with the ones that aren't destroyed.  makes me wonder if they've been tampered with since the package is so messed up.  what did the mailman say when he delivered?  did you fill out a damage report with them?  did drugdelivery tell you to send the whole thing back?  be very careful!

[akelly]

yeah i got a kit from hcg supplies with bac water in it. i don't think they were tampered with, just packaged really stupidly...no protection at all. i called the shipper (aramex) and they told me it had been left by my door, and I was like "no...there is nothing here" so i went outside and some van pulled up and handed a bag to me and drove off. i didn't inspect it til i got it in.

[rda.nicky75]

I started on the 23rd w/injections.  I had 2 load days, so I have been on vlcd for 2 days.  So far so good.  Does anyone know where to look for recipes?  My scale needs a new battery so I don't know if I've lost anything.  I am hoping to lose 20 lbs.  And then take a break.  And maybe do another 23 day cycle.  Has anyone heard if that works.  I don't have the willpower to stay on for 45 straight days.
Amy, have you started your injections?  My email is nicoleatencio(at)hotmaildotcom

[mommyiam]

I can't believe it!  That is terrible.  I would demand something for all your troubles!  Good Luck!

[mommyiam]

I'll let you know how things go, you do the same.  Best of Luck!

[Eruaistaniel]

That is terrible!  When you send them a picture, hopefully they will send you more that is in good condition.  Good luck.

[Lindaloo]

So: try the extra 100 grams of chicken before bed time and watch what happens!!! You'' be "soexcited" Loo

[loosinthaton]

New to site.. Just started HCG on the 17th went to reup on my shots today all they let me have is 2 per week unsure of why? I weighed in 20 pounds down I WAS AMAZED as was the staff!
Wondering if some of you take this daily, and how many units do you inject?  When I go back I plan to ask why the 2 shots?  Thanks for any info...L      

[akelly]

so I'm starting tomorrow....I am really really really freaked out by the needle thing. I'm doing sub-q and the needles are small, but its very against my nature to stick sharp objects into myself. Any suggestions? I'm thinking I might take a drink first to calm my nerves...UGHH!! I'm scared!!! Maybe I should stick it into my bum area so I can't see whats happening too well??

[Eruaistaniel]

I was freaked out at first too.  Don't worry.  It's not bad at all.  I thought it would really hurt, but it didn't.  I usually injected an inch or two to the left or right of my belly button.  It didn't hurt at all there.  It did hurt when I tried injecting below my belly button though.  I didn't try injecting in my bum though.  That might work too.  I hope this helps.

[rda.nicky75]

I take 200 i.u. per day.  I think many others take daily, but there dosages vary.  I believe most of us are using between 175-200.

[iowabutterfly]

Hi:  I am a newby here.  Received all needed for my hubby and I to start protocol.  Question - I am a little worried about opening the glass vial of HCG.  There is white line at the neck, just above the large part of the vial - Do I just snap the top off at that point to open it. I then withdraw 1 cc of the bac. water and put it into the powder to dissolve.  I then use the same needle to draw this liquid back from the HCG vial and transfer into a larger vial with the rest of the bac. water needed to make the concentrate required.   Is that right?  I am so impressed by all of the success of all of you.  Hope to report similar losses in near future.  Right now I'm feeling a little dumb. Thanks

[ubflossn]

you're right about the line on the neck of the vial.  i was worried glass would fall back into the vial but it really does snap off clean.  i would put the bac water into the vial with the hcg.  it will disolve immediately.  then take your needle and transfer the additional water to your sterile vial before you mix and transfer the hcg mixture or you'll contaminate the whole bottle of bac water with the hcg mixture.  after you put the water in the vial you can use the same needle to uptake the hcg mixture and put it into the vial.  make sure you keep the pressure even within the empty vial and the full bottle of bac water.  you'll be fine after the first misture

akelly..........don't be nervous (easy for us to say right).  i was freaking out my first time too.  i'm a healthcare professional and it was totally against my nature to inject foreign material into my body (although i never had a problem with injesting pies?? go figure) but after about the second day you won't even think about it!

good luck to all the newbies!!  you've found what you've been looking for but remember nothing worthwhile is easy!  you can do this!

[iowabutterfly]

Thanks for the encouragment.  Another dumb questions - when you say keep the pressure even I assume (when mixing into glass vial) I inject amount of water (say 2 cc) into empty glass vial and withdraw 2cc of air, inject another 2cc of water and withdraw 2cc of air until I have my needed amount of water - then inject my dissolved HCG (which is 1cc) and withdraw 1 cc of air?   My hubby and I went to eat breakfast today and stuffed ourselves with pancakes, eggs and etc.  We both felt like we waddled home.   Hubby can't imagine how we are going to exist on 500 cal a day.  Tried to explain but guess he will just have to see that he is not going to starve to death.  Also we are going to inject around supper time as he leaves early in mornings before I am even stirring and we want to inject same time.  Do you think that will make a difference.

[ubflossn]

i put in the air (into the liquid bottle)before i take it out and take the air out (of the empty bottle) before i put something in.  the vial is already full of air so you need to withdraw as much air as you are putting in of liquid so it will equalize.  same for the bottle you are going to extract liquid from.  it's full of air and liquid.  if you try to withdraw liquid without first putting in air (as much air as you are taking out liquid) you will have a vacuum and you will have a tough time getting the liquid out.  it will suck back into the bottle.  does that make any sense?  
i always feel like it's best to inject in the morning i guess because that's when i wake up and get moving and don't want to be hungry all day waiting for my shot.  i think you may have trouble the first couple days with hunger by doing it that way but after you've been in the groove for a bit it won't be a problem.  once the hcg is flooded into the system 24 hours is 24 hours.  may make the first couple days hard and they are already hard enough.  maybe you could get up a bit early with him....he'll probably be the one to have the toughest time because men do tend to eat more than we do and when they get hungry look out!  i don't know though.......see what works best for you.

[iowabutterfly]

Yes, it makes sense.   Thank you sooooo much for the info.   I appreciate it.  We are looking forward to being slimmer and healthier.  

[akelly]

I started too this morning. We also went out to breakfast and stuffed ourselves too! Except my husband isn't doing the protocol....
I can't believe how painless the shot was, I didn't feel anything. I'm so excited yaay

[iowabutterfly]

ub..... I did the mix (which made me so nervous so it took a little time) and gave myself and my husband shots.  I followed your directions which helped me so much.  Thanks again for the help!  I thought Larry was going to faint when I showed him the 1 1/4" needle but it was a snap.  Didn't even feel it.  I took mine in my leg and gave his in his arm. hoping I can convince him to give my shot in my hiney some of the time.  We have decided to give shots at 6 p.m.  He leaves the house at 5 a.m. - way to early for me.
akelly... Glad to know someone is starting the same time - we can compare notes.  Hope you get the problem solved with Drug Delivery.  That's where I got ours with no problems, thank goodness. This is stressful enough without the problems.

[ubflossn]

how long did it take to receive your shipment from the day it shipped to the day you received it.  including sat and weekends?

[KWash]

I am becomming beyond frusterated. I am craving some different food (not hungry), just craving it. And when I see my weight stay the same so frequently, it makes me want to give up. I understand it could be that my body is trying to catch up.... I am also spotting, quite early, maybe I'm retaining water. However, this is what's happening, and I'm doing everything correctly: (Oct. 19, 20) - 225.2 pounds  
(Oct. 22, 23, 24) - 222 pounds   (Oct. 25, 26) - 221 pounds   (Oct. 27, 28, 29) - 219.5 pounds  and I just started on October 14, 2007...... I don't understand!!!!! Has this happened to anyone else this frequently?

[soexcited]

Don't fill so bad, I am experiencing difficulty too.  Last week was aweful as far as weight loss goes.  I have been up and down.   I'm experiencing weight gain for no apparent reason.  I have gained 2 days last week then lost it.  Today I weigh the same I did last Tuesday. UGH!!!    But this week is a new week.  I am still excited because I know I have the help I need to loose this weight for good.  

The recipies are great in the e-book.  I had cabbage soup over the week-end, it was awesome.
Is it just me or does food actually taste better?  The soup was so tasty and yummy!!!!

[KWash]

What is the recipe for the soup and where can I find the e-book?

[ubflossn]

yes i'm sorry to say that does happen.  what you can do to feel better is try on some clothes that you couldn't get into before or take your body measurements.  the inches come off before the pounds do.  at least that's been my experience.  today i got into (quite comfortably i may add) my favorite pair of old navy khakis!!  i used to just love the way i looked in them.  couple days ago they were on but too tight to wear anyplace.  today i actually am up a couple ounces on the scale but when i put those pants on they were appropriate for public viewing!!  how great is that.  i think sometimes if you haven't had a BM (gross i know) in a while you'll weigh more even though the body is shrinking.  you body will get smaller before the numbers on the scale reflect it so hang tough!!  better days are coming i promise.  and you really are doing great with the weight loss.  just look at the numbers compared to the number of days and take measurements!!  hang in there!!

[mommyiam]

Don't quit!!  I have experienced 2 days with zero loss, for no reason (I mean no cheating), But at least the scale keeps moving in the right direction.  I wish you weren't having such issues, and you too soexcited.  Have you both kept journals?  I find writng everything down helps me keep track of food, lotion, sleep, whatever I think may effect things.  Just a thought.  And KWash, I am still spotting too, not due till next week...oh well guess this is a side effect.

I had a great lunch yesterday, no real recipe, but I just mixed half a diced apple with diced chicken and had it on top of spinach with some apple cider vinegar --yummy and filling.  Maybe someone else wants to try that, or something like it.

I am thrilled to report that after 14 days of the VLCD I have lost 24 lbs!  I can see the difference and my clothes fit much better, soon will try on some that weren't fitting at all.  I am so thankful for this program!  I wish you all the best.

iowa --You are doing IM shots without any discomfort?  Please tell me exactly how...mine have hurt really bad from the begining.  Icing worked one time, but mostly I dread the shot.  Thanks.

[KWash]

thank You UbFlossin,MommyJam, and SoExcited....... Everyone, but especially you 3 have been a tremendous help, and motivation throught this process. I am so thankful for this website. God Bless you all!

[soexcited]

Kw - the web site for the recipe book is www.hcgdietinfo.com.   After you are on the site in the left column click on hcg diet recipes..scroll down to the shrimp recipe and just above it in blue is hcg recipes Ebook, click on that and your there.  Hope this helps. The recipes i've tried so far have been YUMMY!!!  Beats the heck out of plain baked chicken.  
I am keeping a food log.....the idea of making other notes is good....that way I can look back and get a full picture of what I was doing and what was going on in my life at the time.  I'm gong to have to do phase 2 at least 4 to 5 times to get down to my main negotiable goal weight of 150.  The notes will be invaluable in the future.

Mommy - Wow!!!!!!!!!!!   24lbs that great.  Keep up the good work.  God is so GOOD!!!!!!   My clothes are fitting better too.  The biggest difference i've seen is in my rest at night.  Since my weight gain I have been experiencing what I feel is sleep apnia (apnea).  I am resting so much better now.  My stamina is better too.  And Praise God my ankles are normal....the swelling is all gone.
I give my shots in my stomach a couple inches from my belly button.  I have no pain at all.  You may try there.  I use a very small syringe used for diabetics.  Works great.

Hey all - I noticed that some of the girls names are in blue....checked it out and it is because they were registered with this site.  Thought I would register and it allowed me to upload my picture.  Thought it would be great to see what you girls look like.  We could also upload new pics as our appearance changes.  What do you think???????

[mommyiam]

Can't do the belly thing, I am doing IM shots, so if I understand correctly I have either my thigh or my butt.  But thanks for the thought.

[iowabutterfly]

Mommy- my needles are 3ml 27g. What are yours?  When I gave myself the shot (which I gave in my upper leg) I sort of turned away and had to look back to make sure it was in.  Hope it is that way all the time.  Will let you know. Hoping I can talk Larry into giving them to me in butt some of the time.
ub - I ordered my HCG on 10-04 and received it on 10-22.  It was in an envelope from UK.
I had received 2 notices and tracking numbers after I ordered so don't know what that was all about.  I couldn't track either - but, package got here safe.
soexcited - I went in and downloaded some of those recipes and looking forward to trying them so food isn't so boring - especially for Larry as he loooooves food!  Pictures?   hmmmm - we took pictures of us for before and after - brought to home really how much we have gained and NEED to loose.  They were not pretty pictures!
Today Larry feels a little ill but think it is from the flu shot he had not the HCG shot so it has been hard for him to force feed.  I started a new job today and couldn't sleep last night so feel a little stressed today from that.  I am driving a van for the school here.  I pick up one child and take him to a certain destination so he can be picked up by another van to go to a school 30 miles away.  Drove this morning and now am off to drive him home from school.  I live in a small community in Iowa so am not looking forward to snowy roads this winter. ta-ta  

[sonia2715]

My cycle was here twice this month as well.  I had just completed one week of HCG when it came again.  I believe that the HCG has everything to do with it.

Anyone:  Is anyone feeling moody.  I am ususally very upbeat, and even though I've had a death in the family, I am experiencing some abnormal down days.  I wonder if it has anything to do with the HCG making my cycle more frequent.  I am just sad today... though there is joy in my heart.  I truly have everything to be thankful about.

[ubflossn]

you're doing great!!  i'm almost done with the entire program and i'm just a little ahead of  where you are after only 14 days!!  don't get discouraged.  you are doing fantastic!

[KWash]

I believe the HCG has to do with the onset of our periods early, however, before I even started treatment, I had the first abnormal period I've ever had in my 23 years of life. I was told many things by mu OBGYN. She said it could be an early miscarriage(it wasn't, I wasn't even pregnant) , tubal pregnacy(it wasn't), or just abnormal, I was only 22 when it happened and I just turned 23 on October 13, 2007. However, I pray and I don't worry about it much. I believe the HCG will correct these irregular periods. I'm still slightly spotting, but my cycle has not came around yet. Now on to your mood.... I'm sorry to hear about the loss in your family, may God comfort you...... the mood may be because of the loss of a loved one, and you are displacing it on the HCG. You will be fine, just continue to pray, and I will do the same for you. God Bless

[GRACIEGIRL2]

Finally!!!  I made it to the 40lb loss goal.  I was really discouraged this weekend 1.6lb gain.  Maybe it was the cold medicine, which I am off of now.  So, 8 days VLCD 11.2lb loss.
When I mix my next batch of hcg I am going to mix for 175iu.  I have really struggled on 150iu.
Keep up the good work everybody!

[imalarry]

Wow, Great job Graciegirl2. That is so cool.  There are so many new people that are getting great results, that is so cool. I will be doing a short second phase 2 in 1 month to loose the last 10 to 15 lbs. FYI, When I stoped phase 2 I started eating carbs and sugar and my weight went up fast. I got it back down but it took some work so I recomend really following the three weeks without starch and sugar to get the weight stabileized. Good luck to all of you.

[sonia2715]

Thanks for the encouragement.  Its like a veil of sadness lifted from me.  I'm great today and .8 lbs lighter.  Thank you for prayers... that's all that can help at this point.

GG2:  Congrats on getting your goal!

[SlimSoon]

Hello All.. I gotta start by saying that all you guys ROCK!!! I've been reading the post on these forums since Oct 18th and I must tell you that I have all the information I need to do the VLC Diet..

I ordered my HCG from DrugDelivery and the mail man tried delivering it yesterday, so I will be picking it up today from the post office. I order my other supplies from HCGSupplies which I received in less than a week. I'm currently on KT's phase 1, my Starting weight (Oct 29th) 205lbs, I'm 6'0" trying to get down to 180lbs. The plan is to get on phase 2 on Thanksgiving Day so that I can take FULL advantage of all the food & left overs... hehehe

I will be doing 200 I.u. shots for the 43 days, I have 6 -1,500 I.u ampoules of the HCG. I'm also going to incorporate some Ayurvedic Yoga & some good old fashion weight training. I will document my daily weight, body %, measurements and will post weekly. I'm also going to do a video diary to go over how I felt throughout the day. I will probably post on YouTube or something..

I'm very excited...

Again, thank you guys for all the info (Sharing is Caring)

[SlimSoon]

Oh by the way: I ordered the on Oct 18th and it arrived yesterday (Oct 29th) I thought that was fairly quick.. I still have to go pick it up form the Post Office, I dont know what condition the merchandise is in. I will keep you guys posted.

[svltdebo]

12 lbs. in 14 days.......not bad considering I'd lost 16 lbs. the prior 6 weeks on libo B shots.

One observation here, maybe just me........however, I ordered the Stevia gum online; in chewing a couple of pieces each afternoon I developed the WORST case of restless leg syndrome I've ever had.   Took me a week of no sleeping and walking the floor to figure it out and stop the gum.  

Continued good luck to all, don't give up, this works.  Every single time I didn't lose the lbs./day I thought I should have, I could always attribute it to a misbehavior like a can of d. coke, no apple, too much meat, or something.  This plans works....and the scales cooperate better than anything I've ever done!!!  

[akelly]

Today is my first day of VLCD.
I'm a little worried about how much vegetables to eat....I get the 3.5 oz of lean protein, but a handful of vegetables? That just seems a bit subjective. How do you guys measure your veggies?

[lastdiet]

I am new and very excited to share my experience.  I am starting my 500 calories diet in the mornging. I am finishing up with my two days of gorging today.  Yuck!  I am done with this.  I actualy lost a pound doing this.  I hope this is not bad. I did eat everything I could find including about 3 chocholate bars a day.  I have been doing 125 subq injections.  I read that the results might only be 3 pounds a week this method.  Has anyone else read of this?

[Eruaistaniel]

I had a time with that too.  Girleegirl sent me a chart that help me.  Here are the vegetable measurements and calories.  

asparagus - 130 grams = 34 calories
cabbage - 150 grams = 30 calories
cucumbers - 105 grams = 16 calories
lettuce, iceberg - 170 grams = 24 calories
lettuce, romaine - 130 grams = 23 calories
onion, green, raw - 170 grams = 36 calories
radishes - 10 medium = 17 calories
spinach - 170 grams = 39 calories
tomatoes, raw - 170 grams = 20 calories
grapefruit, raw - 120 grams = 49 calories
strawberries, raw - 150 grams = 56 calories
strawberries, frozen - 144 grams = 46 calories
apple, peeled, raw - 100 grams = 41 calories

[lastdiet]

Has anyone noticed that during the gorging days they no longer wanted the things they alway wanted most such as chocholate cake?  I could not finish my cake ... first time ever... this was my last day of gorging... In the morning I will get on the scale and let you know what my starting weight is.   My mother is also doing this diet so I will keep all of you posted on her progress too.  She is going through menopause right now does this matter?  Anyone know?

[ubflossn]

hey guy!!!  how did your trip go???  i've been wondering about you. i may have taken my last shot and i'm heading into phase 3 so that's good info.  i have bobbled a couple times during phase 2. nothing major but a couple cookies (organic though) and i even had a sliver of pie once.  that did change things a bit (no loss for a while or a slight increase) but i couldn't help it!!  it took me about 50 days to do all the injections because of skips for both periods i've had etc.  but it was pretty easy to correct.  now without the hcg i don't know what will happen.  i was hoping to do a couple extra weeks like lindaloo did but my shipment is late (of course) so it looks like i may be done for a while.  if that's the case i'll do another short phase also to get the last 20 lbs off after the holidays i think.  so are you going to finish the 3 weeks before you go to round 2?  i'm so glad you dropped in to let us know how things were going for you.  i've been wondering!

[ubflossn]

yes, that's REALLY fast!  i ordered on the 4th and had to cancel and reorder on the 12the because the echeck was having problems or something and wouldn't process.  after i ordered on the 12th it shows a tracking number that actually worked this time.  on 10-27 it said it reached NY customs from INDIA (although i ordered from EUROPE PHARM) and there is sits.  who knows when i'll receive it!!  i called DD.ca and they said it could be up to 10 days in customs.  since the second reorder date it's already been 20 days (19 days since it's shipped).  i don't even know why some orders go so fast and some take forever.  or why some people order from one place and it arrives from another.  we'll see i guess.  but good luck to you and congrats on your determination!  you don't have far to go so i'm sure you'll be seeing your goal soon.  i can't tell for sure but i think you are male?  men have typically had much faster results (although some of the gals on here are rocking the numbers too!) so you shouldn't have any trouble.  

[ubflossn]

yes the menopause may be problematic for her.  dr s says you should wait until a year after the end of it or your weight may not stabilize.  you'll have to see what happens though.  what we have learned here on this forum is that every body is different and will react just a little bit different. we'll  hope for the best for you both!!  good luck!

[ubflossn]

i think the strange thing about drugdelivery is that both my orders were from europe pharm.  i think someone else on here ordered from europe and was shipped from india.  i'd call and complain but they've messed it up so far and i orig ordered on oct 4 so i don't want them to cancel it like the did for the other gal.  but it takes longer from the india pharm than from the europe pharm.  i'm a bit worried about the product from india though so i don't know if i should complain.  it's stuck in customs so again i wonder if that's because of country of origin.  what a mess!!

[ubflossn]

another weird thing is i paid the prices from the europe pharm and it's shipped from the india pharm which is more expensive.  go figure!

[GRACIEGIRL2]

Larry,  Welcome back!  Hope your trip went well.  Did the new hcg help?  Or do you think it was time to be off it for a while?

Slim, Welcome aboard!  You really did get your hcg FAST.  It took 3-4 weeks for mine to get here.
Hcgsupplies makes ordering the supplies very simple.  I wont get to eat thanksgiving but, I will start  2nd round of phase 2 on Christmas so I can  gorge for Christmas dinner.  (not feel totally deprived for the holidays)

[GRACIEGIRL2]

Good Morning to all and HAPPY HALLOWEEN!
Down another 1.2lbs this AM for a total of 41.2lbs.  12.4lbs on injections.  My daughter has done well too.  She has lost a total of 33.8lbs.  Of that 16.2lbs with injections and 9 full days of VLCD.

[SlimSoon]

I got the MOTTS!!! I went to the post office yesterday to pick up my HCG (purchased on 10/18 from DrugDelivery), mail carrier tried to deliver to my home on 10/30 but no one was there to sign for it. I'm happy to report that the amps were not damaged.. The HCG came in a manila envelop line with bubble wrap thing-a-ma-jiggy... 2 boxes each contained 3 amps HCG & 3 amps bacWater.

ubflossn - Yes I am a male.. lol I'm hoping to get fast results.. I really don't have much to loose to begin with, maybe 20 to 30 lbs to be totally shredded. Its just that ALL that weight seems to reside in one area, my midsection..But with clothes on I look pretty slim, I guess I'm what some would call a skinny-fat guy.. lol (But not for long!)

GRACIEGIRL2 - Thanks for welcoming me on board.. You have had amazing results!!! It looks like you're actually counting your weight loss from Phase 1 as well as phase2.. I think I may do the same...

[soexcited]

Erua - Thanks for the calorie list.  I had been wondering the same thing.  I had looked through all the literature trying to find something on cals for fruits and vegies but nothing. Thanks

Today down another 2lbs for 19.8 day 17.  Not to bad overall.  Had some rough spots last week but I am happy to have lost so much in such a short time.

Have an awesome day all.

[akelly]

ubflossn- I would just take the Indian pharmacy! Because after i complained and got the European pharmacy stuff, it looked like somone ran over it with a bike or something. And they still haven't gotten back to me about replacing it.

Thanks for the list Eruaistaniel. Yesterday was my first effective dosing day and i was pretty hungry. Not about to die hungry, just not that comfy. I don't think I ate enough on days one and two because i lost weight on both days. What I'm wondering about is the grissini. I kind of feel like I should be able to eat more veggies if I'm skipping the breadstick all together. I know you aren't supposed to make things up as you go, but how could skipping a breadstick and adding some lettuce hurt me?? lol

I'm down 6.2 pounds by the way!! Day 4

[akelly]

ubflossn- I would just take the Indian pharmacy! Because after i complained and got the European pharmacy stuff, it looked like somone ran over it with a bike or something. And they still haven't gotten back to me about replacing it.

Thanks for the list Eruaistaniel. Yesterday was my first effective dosing day and i was pretty hungry. Not about to die hungry, just not that comfy. I don't think I ate enough on days one and two because i lost weight on both days. What I'm wondering about is the grissini. I kind of feel like I should be able to eat more veggies if I'm skipping the breadstick all together. I know you aren't supposed to make things up as you go, but how could skipping a breadstick and adding some lettuce hurt me?? lol

I'm down 6.2 pounds by the way!! Day 4

[akelly]

oops dang computer

[akelly]

maybe this would be pushing my luck, but any idea where i can find a chart for the meat? i tried looking online and there must have been 1300 different types of chicken to look at...

[Dijana]

well my mom just bought me KT's book and I was excited to start reading it however having to inject the HCG is making me a little nervous. I am only 18 yrs old and I wasnt sure whether it is completely safe. However I am excited to know that all of you have been having Great results. I think I'll start with phase 1 and see whether that might be enough. What does everyone else think?

[GRACIEGIRL2]

It depends on how much you need to loose.  The hcg helps with problem fat areas and also helps with the hunger.  The shots are not bad at all.  I started with phase 1 (not everything) it worked really well.  Lost about 30lbs in 44 days.  Then I started phase 2.

[GRACIEGIRL2]

Have you heard from Imama?  Just wondering if she took a break from this for a little while.

[Dijana]

My problem area has always been my stomach. I have skinny legs and arms and my big stomach makes me look pregnant. I am 5'7 and i weigh 175. Im hoping to lose 30 lbs and Im hoping 30 lbs of stomach fat. Im hoping that phase 1 will be enough if not ill try phase 2. I feel alot better having found this forum because the results are amazing. Thanks Everyone!!!!

[lastdiet]

Thanks for the note about my mom.. I guess we will have to see what happens. I am actualy one day ahead of her.  I started my low cal day today she starts tomorrow.  After my first day of goring I actualy lost a pound and after my second I gained 5!  I cant believe it!  So here are my starting numbers and I will post my moms in the morning.

150.6 pounds
31.2% fat
48.5% water

I cant believe I just wrote that I weight 150... I used to be 120 before having 3 children ages and I have never been able to get lower then 143 pounds. I tried everthing... including the Turbo Protein diet..this is how I got down to 143 but it was too hard doing the liquid diet and I dont think that my results were as good as I hoped.  It did not realy reshape my body as this diet claims to do.it   Anyway, I dont expect to get back to 120 although it would be nice.  I will be very happy to get to 130.  In fact if I can only do this for the minimum of 21 days becasue of various events coming up.  Does anyone know if I have to wait the 6 weeks before starting again even though I am only doing a first round of 21 days?  Can I restart after 2 weeks since I did not go the full 6 weeks of hcg shots?

Thanks

[imalarry]

It was time to give it a rest. My trip was awsome even though we delt with the fire and wind, ( drove back from mexico through san deigo ). It was very rewarding. I will do another phase 2 starting nov. 28 . I cant stress enough how much the 3 weeks stabilazation period is. My weight shot way up when I started eating starch right away. I think the body really needs that time to stabilize. So stick to it and good luck. I will be poping in from time to time.

[lastdiet]

I had a naturopath prescribe the shots for me through a "regular" doctor.  They work together which is great..and she told me that most patients notice that the hcg loses its potency at around the 21 day mark.  She found that the patients that did best were those that mixed a new batch every 2 weeks.  I went one step further and told her I was willing to pay to have a new batch every week so this is what I am doing.  Lets see if it makes a difference.  We should do a comparison of weight loss at 21 days which seems to be the point where most people tend to have a stall.  Although my starting weight is lower then most..from what I understand I should be able to lose at the same rate as somone starting off with more weight.  I find this hard to believe however.  I think that because these are my "last few pounds" that it will be harder for me or that my progress will be slower.  I would love to hear from anyone who "only" had to lose 20-30 pounds.

[lastdiet]

I started a new thread with a called HCG stats... I would apreciate everyone stopping by to include your weight loss stats so that we can get some sort of stats going!  

[Aninani]

Hey...the waves are a callin' your name...where's Loo?????  Noel is churning up some great water - some sand is over the wall and across A1A!  

By the way, welcome back Larry!

[Eruaistaniel]

I've got the calories for 100 grams of flank steak and beef, but not for the rest of the meat.  This is what I have.  I hope you can find the calories for 100 grams for all of them.  If not, you can make a pretty good guess from looking at this.
flank steak - 100 grams = 140 calories
beef - 100 grams = 141 calories
chicken breasts - 87 grams = 142 calories
cod - 130 grams = 101 calories
flounder or sole - 130 grams = 103 calories
halibut - 110 grams = 110 calories

[iowabutterfly]

Do any of you doing intramuscular (IM) injection aspirate the needle when injecting?  I am just starting the shots and was not doing it but last shot some blood came out when I removed needle. Is that common or did I do a booboo?

[ubflossn]

yes, itmama has taken a little break.  she's doing well though!

well i didn't complain but i got a call from drugdel today to tell me my package has been seized in customs!  if there's a train...........i'm behind it!!!  so i guess they're reshipping my order to me and it should arrive sometime.  so i guess i really did take my last shot yesterday.......and it was only 1/2 a shot because i was almost out.  so looks like i'm being forced into phase 3 which is probably where i belong anyway.  it's time.  my body had to adjust and i'm just darned sick of the diet anyway right now.  i lost 25lbs on the vlcd and 28 alltogether if you consider the small amount of phase 1 i did so 28lbs is pretty good!!  i have about 25 more to go before i'll be happy so after the waiting period i'll be doing round 2.  hopefully my stuff will arrive by then!!!  never know!!!  

[GRACIEGIRL2]

calorieking . com     you don't have to join.  It has a section to type in the food that you want info. on
and then you enter the serving size.

ubflo
28lbs is great.  You are half way there.  I know what you mean about being sick of the diet.  Phase one got the best of me.  Phase 2 is even worse.  I am tring to stay positive though.  Good Luck!

[akelly]

Thanks for the info on the meat! I also checked out calorie king, thats pretty awesome. I'm eating the biggest apples I could find though...I don't get it. Simmeons says that one large apple is okay but two small ones aren't. According to calorie king a large apple is double the calories of a small one. I'm wondering if I should just go by calories or just guesstimate.

And I was looking at some pickles today (oh boy pickles!!) and they were only 5 calories for one 3 or 4 inch pickle! No sugar or anything, so I'm thinking....can I have a pickle now and then? Or is that cheating....i dunno

[KWash]

Well....... I've been 219.5 since Saturday Oct. 27th, that's 6 days in a row, counting today! Partly my fault, I did cheat on Monday Oct. 29th, I got discouraged and waek. Thank God I did not gain weight and it's just staying the same. I did an apple day on that Tuesday after I cheated, although I only ended up eating 2 apples, I just wasn't hungry! Yesterday I went back to the VLCD, and from here on out, I'm sticking to the diet, NO CHEATING! My weight can only go down from here.

[GRACIEGIRL2]

I think I would stick exactly to the plan.  If this diet really resets the hypothalmus gland (?spelling) like Dr. Simeons says that would mess it up.  Dr. Simeons protocol was not very flexible with substitutions.
The only way to know if all this hard work works, is to stick to it.  Which has been very HARD for me.

[Dollyd60]

Yeah, I love pickles also.  BUT BEWARE of the pickle, whether sweet, sour, Kosher, or Dill.  I was told one time by a friend who is a diabetic that her physician said that a pickle has so much sodium, that they make one retain water.  They low in calories, but have not too much nutritional value.
I would eat some cucumbers plain, instead.

  Pickles:

Calories-20, Fat Cal-0, Total Fat-0g, Sodium-140mg, Total Carb-5g (sugars), Protein-0g

I think different pickles have different nutritional values.  

I DO love the veggies on the vlcd.  It has made the diet easier.

[akelly]

I'm finding it pretty hard not to constantly think about food or my next meal. But that has been the case with every diet I've ever been on. I'm not starving, thats for sure, but I'm sick of obsessing about food. I even got a piano so I can try and learn how to play and keep myself occupied! I quit smoking a couple of years ago and I know for sure that I have upped the eating a lot since then...last night I dreamt that I accidently ate some candy...lol

I CHECKED MY PICKLES!!! Sodium: 290 FOR HALF OF ONE!!!! GHAA that sounds bad

[mommyiam]

iowa -- From what I have read, a small drop of blood on the withdrawl is normal, it means you passed through a blood vessel.  I have had it probably 5 times in 20 shots.  I do aspirate everytime.  The hcg support web site (hcgsupportgroup dot forumotion dot com) has a good link for the IM shots -- as well as a bunch of other good info.

[mommyiam]

Sorry I haven't been around few days...Halloween parties, costumes, ...been hectic!  My last 3 days have gone like this 0 loss, 0.4 loss, then 0 loss again.  The two days with 0's both had very little sleep, and I was quite tired--which since starting hcg has been rare.  There's nothing I can do about getting more sleep, unless I tie my daughter in her bed --humm, just kidding.  But for me it seems to really effect my wt loss.  So my total loss is 24.4 lbs in 17days of VLCD.  Which I still consider totally amazing.  I have every confidence that it will pick up again.  Good Luck to all of you!

UB -- Please let us know how phase 3 goes for you!!!

[verokita]

Hi today I'm on my 18th day on the VLCD and I've lost 17 lbs. but this week I've been having cravings and It's been hard for me to stay away from foods that are not on the diet plan.  I've also been feeling hunger and I'm not sure why.  Did anyone experienced this? Let me know what I can do can I add a protein shake or something?

[KWash]

NO! and I repeat NO....... yes I too have had cravings and I gave in, now I've been at the same weight for 6 days in a row, even though I only cheated one day. A little bag of chips, or slice of Pizza is not worth it. Do not add a protein shake or anything that is not on the list of foods that Dr. Simeons made. It is very crucial to follow everything step to the T

[GRACIEGIRL2]

What dose are you injecting?  I'm injecting 150iu.  I too have had cravings. I am going to increase to 175iu next time I mix.  This is day 11 of VLCD.  The cravings should be gone by now.

[Dollyd60]

Yeah, Boy do I know about those 6 or 7 days in a row where it stood still.  I am wondering near the end if the pre-mixed hcg loses it potency.  I have felt less hungry on the Friday B12 Load day.  All in all, I have really done much better than any other diet in the past, and have stuck with it longer.
In 24 days I have lost 15 pounds and that averages out to be .625 lbs lost per day.  Another friend on here said I might not lose that much, not more than a half a pound a day.  She was close to being right.  I DO feel good that I am not gaining it back yet.  I am taking those like LindaLoo and others advice and adding back gradually, and keeping the same format as the vlcd, and just not allowing it to get out of hand again. I weighed 146 going into it, and am now at 131.  Those remaining 5 or 6 pounds I will continue to work on.  Congrats to everyone doing so well and feeling so good about themselves.  It is just as hard to lose 10-15 pounds as it is to lose a large amount.  Especially when it has stayed on for so long.  I never had a problem until I hit menopause.  Then it crept on and had stayed.  Now I know what I have to do to keep it off, and I DO feel much better.

I found the neatest thing on-line.  It is a Personal Matabolic Rate Calculator.  This guy Michael Geary who is an author and personal trainer has developed a spreadsheet that calculates what your approximate daily caolric intake should be to Maintain, or Lose, or Gain depending on your Sex, current weight, Height in inches, Age, and Activity level factor.  For Example:  In order to maintain my current weight, my maintenance calorie level is 1718, but in order to continue to lose, I must stay around 918 calories to 1235 calories.  It is a neat tool.  
I am going to keep doing the vlcd for two more weeks to try to lose the other few pounds. I have a feeling that this way of eating will become so ingrained in me now that I can do this and keep at the weight I wish.

I am not really having many cravings, just some days it is harder than others. The apples help
and the protein has helped.

KWASH:  I understand how you feel about the 6 days in a row and the scales staying the same...
It happened to me too.

I WOULD recommend this diet and using the hcg to anyone that has exhausted all other possibilities for losing weight, no matter how little or how much needed to lose.  I feel it is safe.  I had zero side effects, had more energy, more pleasant and better sleep.  My fingernails and hair have grown at great speed. I was never ravenous on the low caloric intake.  I was pleased with NHW and their professional way of treating everyone well and their caring and compassionate concern for all their clients.  I would recommend them for anyone needing this service.  They were not unreasonably over-priced and the quality of their product and service was right on target.

I hope that all of us continue to know this without question:  We Can Do THis!! We can reach our goals in any venture of life.!!  

[lastdiet]

My results for today after 1 VLCD down 3 pounds.  2 more pounds to lose in order to be where I was before I started the gorging.  This realy sucks let me tell you!  I wish we did not have to gain weight on the first 2 days!

[verokita]

Thanks for the advice....  I'll try to keep it up.  I was just thinking maybe since I'm getting my shots out of syringes pre-filled I was thinking maybe they've lost their potency.  Is this possible????  I got them from Native Healing Ways.

[patmdon]

Hi All.  Been reading KT's book and the posts on forums.  Really want to do the shots.  Where do I start?  Any info is appreciated.  I need to lose 45 lbs.  With all your expertise can you suggest the best way to order hcg?

[akelly]

I'm doing 150 too, but sub-q. I'm not starving...just bored...really really bored. everything seems to revolve around eating or drinking. I nearly lost control when I saw a bowl of tiny tootsie rolls at one of my client's houses today. lol.
Then I thought about a few days ago when I could eat whatever I wanted, and how I wouldn't have cared about them then. I only want them cause I can't have them....so I survived.
Maybe we should try that Callahan technique KT talks about in the book....seems stupid, but who knows?? I don't know if i can remember all those tapping moves though.
Anyone try this??

Patmdon: I ordered through drugdelivery.ca and half of it was smooshed when i got it, but they are sending a replc order so i can't complain i guess...a lot of people have had success with them. My only advice would be order now! I was so anxious to start that i hemmed and hawed about it for a while and then i had a tough time waiting once i had ordered it. They also sent 2 free ones cause of a promotion and another extra for my troubles with it being sent from the wrong pharmacy..and i've heard they are the cheapest. I basically ordered from them because their website looked legit....and don't use a check if you don't have to! That held up my order by about 5 days.....
.these forums have been amazingly helpful to me in learning from everyone elses experience

I started doing sub-q injections 5 days ago and the first one was painless, then they started to hurt a bit (and i do mean just a bit) the next few times and i wondered if it was because it was cold from the fridge. So today I filled the syringe and put the HCG back in the fridge, then just held the syringe in my hand for about 20 seconds and there was no pain at all. I read somewhere that someone let it warm up and it didn't help, but it helped for me! Just sharing....

[patmdon]

thanks soooo much for your input.  I want to order ASAP.  Have to do online cause there's no DR or clinic where I live in NE PA that I can find to help.  So I'm trying to be cautious where I order from.  Ever hear of a site called    truhumanitydotcom ?  Has kits for $300 plus $40 shipping that include everything for 43 days 6 amps of 1500 plus supplies.  Sound like a good deal ?  Legit?  If anyone knows about them let me know, ok?  Also what about NHW?  Recommend them? Bummer about your DD.ca order.  Let us know when they make good.

[patmdon]

I am so grateful for this forum and all the good people helping each other through the protocol.  I don't think I would have had the courage to do this if it weren't for reading all the positive reports here.  I'm looking forward to the time when I can start.  But for now till I get my stuff I'll continue to read and learn all I can about this great program.  I'm so tired of trying to lose weight and having such small results for all my efforts.  This is really encouraging after so long a battle.  Gives me hope again.  Bless you all and your efforts.  HAPPY LOSING!

[mresearcher]

hello everyone,
its been over a week since i've written, i just wanted to let everyone know that my first week on phase 3 was like a rollercoaster on the scale!!! but things have since slowed down and my weight is finally stablizing this week alot more. I still gain when i am careless about calories, i recommend that everyone count calories at least in the first week of phase 3 because its so easy to overdo it without realizing.  As long as you do better the next day, your weight will go right back down though!

Good luck to everyone on phase 2 and have happy losses in the morning!!

[akelly]

Personally, I don't know anything about that site, but maybe someone else on here has ordered from them. I know my order was about 60 I think for the supplies and about 140 for 2 6 week rounds of HCG with the 1500 ampules. So, I think it would end up being a lot less. I think I might also buy my syringes and solvent from a drug store next time if they sell that stuff, now that i know what i need and have instructions. i got that stuff from hcgsupplies.com and they were great. really fast

[ubflossn]

well after my drugdel.ca order was seized and shipped back i got a call to inform me the pharm was already working to reship.  said i should get an email when it does so i'll let you know how long that takes.  in the mean time phase 3 is ok.  i'm eating basically just like phase 2 but more of it.  i had an extra apple today and larger portions of meats with lunch and dinner.  also i've been snacking on celery.  we'll see how that works out!  tomorrow though we're finally going out for dinner.  including a beautiful glass of pinot noir!!  can't wait and hope i don't suffer sat at weigh in for it!

[skylamesa]

I am sooo happy I found this forum it has helped so much. I am 23 yr. old mother of 2 and currently going to school so I don't have much time to go to the gym and try losing the weight that way. I am so excited to start I will be ordering my HCG  On the 8th from drugdelivery. I just want to make sure I understand everything; I gorge for 2 days and while I am doing that I am on my shots, than on the 3rd day start the diet??? Is anyone skipping the 7th day??? I also want to make sure that I order enough, I am wanting to lose at least 65 pounds what would you guys/gals suggest??? Also what are IM shots??? I am sorry for all the questions I just want to do this right and lose as much as possible I am sick of feeling disgusted when looking at myself so I really need this.


I also just want to congradualate everyone for what they have lost whither it is a little to you or a lot it is still something, and you did it.

[ubflossn]

welcome aboard!!  IM means intramuscular.  it's a deeper shot that goes directly into the muscle.  a word of caution though .......i know several are doing this type of shot and having success but there are concerns with going that deep such as with a 1 1/4 or 1 1/2 inch needle.  if you are not familiar with the anatomy of the muscles and nerves in the area you are injecting (and most people are not medically trained) there are a lot of little nerve endings under the skin when you go that deep with the needle.  you could do some damage and be pretty unhappy with it.  also for folks that have a large amount of weight to lose, even if you have a larger needle there's a lot of tissue to get thru before you even get to a muscle so many people are thinking they are in a muscle but they probably are not.  just be careful if you decide to go poking around deep in the tissue because you really don't know what you'll hit down there.  the veins etc are the least of it.  i'd be more worried about hitting a nerve or knicking the bone with the larger needles.  having said that, many have had great success with the little 1/2 inch needles going subcutaneous and had no tissue problems at all.  if you are going to go IM research it a lot and make sure you know what you are doing.  you are correct about the gorge and the shots.  you are getting a loading dose of the hcg before you start restricting the calories.  you want plenty of the stuff floating around to allow the abnormal fat to start circulating before you start restricting the cals.  also you need to build up your normal stores.  make sure you have a copy of at least dr simeones book handy for reference while you're going thru this.  you'll go to it often during the whole thing!!  if you have 65 to lose plan on at least 2 full rounds so depending on how often you're mixing, order enough because they charge $30 to ship and it doesn't matter how much you get it's that price.  so if you have 3 rounds you'll save $60 if you order it all at once instead of 3 seperate orders.  most of us agree that the more frequent mixing means fresher product.  i used the 1500iu vials and mixed fresh weekly so you'll need at least 6 vials (comes in packs of 3) for each round you plan on doing. i would say for 65 lbs you'll do a min of 2 rounds depending on how your body gives up the lbs.  lindaloo lost 47 pounds during phase 2 and i lost 30 so see how every body is different.  i think she did 2 extra weeks so that may have had an impact but i don't think with 2 more weeks i would have lost 17 more...........maybe i would have gotten to 35lbs which is what i wanted but i'm happily sticking with 30 for now and i'll pick back up after the holidays to get off the last 20.  good luck to you and glad to see you've joined our little hcg family!

[KWash]

No, it should not lose it's potency. I ordered my program from National Medical Clinic and they gave me a premix, to mix the whole 10,000 iu of HCG for the whole 50 day course. They say it's good for 60 days as long as it is refrigerated. Of course I'm only doing 45 days and yes I skip one day a week, to postpone immunity. My hcg has been working just fine and it's been mixed for 24 days now. Now on to the report: After days in a row of my weight staying the same (partly due to a cheat day), which I will never do again....... I am down another 1.5 pounds!! Finally, now I'm back on track. Total after 18 days of VLCD (1 of the days, I cheated) = 16.5 pounds!  
Question: When totaling the amount of weight you lost, does anyone count the weight gained during the gorge, or do you count down from your original weight?
Example #1: I weighed 230.5 lbs when I started, I'm down to 218 lbs = 12.5 lbs off my original weight.
Example #2: After the gorge I weighed 234.5 lbs, I'm down 218 lbs = 16.5 lbs lost off weight after gorge.

[lastdiet]

Here are my stats: injecting subq - 125iu/day

145 pounds before injections (start weight)
144 pounds after one day of injections and gorging
150 pounds after two days of injecting and gorging (new start weight)
147 pounds after day one of VLCD
145 pounds after day two of VLCD (it took two days to put it on and two to take it off)  

[patmdon]

Is the mixing a big deal?  Sounds complicated to me.  I want to mix weekly so I should get 1500 IU x 6 ampules???  Does this last 6 weeks?  Would it be enough approx to lose 45 lbs?  I feel so brain dead trying to figure this out.  Can anyone help?  Thanks!

[soexcited]

KW - YEA!!!!! back on track.  Glad to hear about the weight loss.  I am now going through alot of what you have but I did loose 1/2lb today.  I'm still moving in the right direction. Down 20.8 in 18 days.  
I was wondering does the weight come off slower the more you have to loose? Cause I have 130lbs to loose?

mommy - Glad to have you back.  Lets all work together to get back on track.

AK - STAY AWAY FROM THE PICKLES!!!!!!!!!!


UB - You have had so much good info.  We have all benifited.  Just a special THANKS!!!!

Everybody have a good week-end!!!!

[KiowaCowGirl]

I'm so so so so anxious to start-must I wait until after my cycle? I want to start the second my drugs get here. I've been obsessed for two months now waiting for my injections and they should be here a few days before my cycle. It sounds like several of you don't stop injections thru your cycle and several of you do- Any difference in results? I don't care if I spot for two weeks if I loose this darn weight.

[KWash]

Thanks for the encouragement...... no babe, the heavier you are, the faster it comes off, because you have more to loose, I want to loose 100, you want to lose 130, we have both been on the VLCD for 18 days, you lost way more then me, and that has nothing to do with me cheating, because you were way ahead in the begining. Keep it up girl! 20.8 in 18 days is amazing! You will start losing more again in no time.

[akelly]

If you order your supplies from hcgsupplies.com it comes with very easy mixing instructions. I'm doing 1500 iu ampules so I can mix a new batch every week. I ordered 12 so I would have 6 ampules for each round of 6 week. With the kit from Hcgsupplies.com it provides the solvent for at least a 6 week period. I'll have to order another kit when I'm ready for my second round.
I was really really worried about the mixing thing but the directions are simple.

Soexcited: I am avoiding those pickles like the plague! The day I had one I lost .7 pounds which is great, but I had been losing almost 2 each day otherwise. Yesterday I skipped the pickle (of course) and lost almost another 2! Yipppeeee, (just a note that I have a lot to lose!) So, I'm down 8.7 and I'm on my 4th day of VLCD. Tomorrow I'll skip the shot.

Gracie: I think I might up my dosage next week to 175, cause I've been hungry. Not ravenous, but definitely hungry (sometimes). I'm concerned though cause I lost about 4 pounds on my load days. I ate a bunch of food, donuts etc...but I don't think I ate enough cause I've been a bit hungrier that it seems I should be. Sometimes I'm hungry, sometimes I'm not. I tried the breadstick thing and I thought it was a joke....like a long cigarette or something! I'd rather just skip it I think.

[verokita]

Do you all have diet coke once in a while?????   I'm dying for a diet Coke!!!!!!!!

[mommyiam]

kwash--just wondering, did your spotting continue?  Mine is still here, sometimes more like a very light flow...really not causing any problems as far as I can tell.

soexcited -- Thanks, sometimes life gets pretty crazy around here, and I have trouble taking time for myself...I am changing that as best as I can, 'cause that is part of what got me into this shape to begin with

kiowa -- The books say at least 10 days before your cycle or right after, I waited until after-I think most people have.  UB didn't wait, and I think she recommends waiting in order to have better results on the shot days (she did great even though she had 2 cycles).  I plan to stop injections for at least 3 days during my cycle (next week -- will let you know how it goes)  But in the end, do whatever makes you happy!

All -- My scale was much nicer this morning. down 1.8 pounds! Total 26.4 in 18 days.  (I am reporting on the wt I started the VLCD, after the gorge, only gained 1 lb over the two days feast)  I have been mixing for 175 iu, and injecting IM, skipping Sundays.

Hope you all have an outstanding weekend!  Keep up the Losing!!!

[GRACIEGIRL2]

I don't do the bread thing either.  I have been really hungry too.  I did not eat alot during the gorge.  After doing phase 1 eating to capacity was a lot less.  Hopefully 175 will help us!!!  Tomorrow is the day I mix a new batch.

all.....Have a great weekend!!!!!  Be strong and avoid the cravings!!

[hmanex]

I receieved my HCG today.  I purchased 1 X HCG PREGNYL 5000 I.U. (ORGANON) 20 AMPULE(S)
along with the 23 day hcg diet kit from HCGsupplies.com.  Please advise on mixing.  I am sure I did it wrong. Do i only use 1 amplule with the 25 ml of b water?  That lasts for 25 days? How do you break the little ampules? It seems as though I shattered the top.  Did I order 19 ampule(s) to many?
The inject of 200iu was the easy part.
Please advise.

[akelly]

hmanex: Go by the mixing instructions that came with the order from HCG supplies. I thought they would come in the mail, but you download them at checkout. If you didn't, you can email them and they will send them to you.

verokita: I'm thinking about getting some sugarless jello!! i think it might be a bad idea though. Its all full of addictive chemicals and the longer we go without it, the less we'll want it right?? lol

Gracie: I'm definitely going up to 175 too. Hopefully tomorrow you'll advise that you aren't hungry at all!

My mom came over today and ate pound cake in front of me >:(

[patmdon]

I just ordered my hcg from drug delevery.ca and my supplies from hcgsupplies.  Thanks for your feedback.  I'm really excited & anxious to start.  Any suggestions on what I should be doing to get ready?  KT gives all those phase 1 ideas, but it's alot!  Can anyone suggest what would be the best to start with?  I'm drinking lots 'a water and walking an hour a day.  Starting to replace my foodstuffs with organics.  Got the stevia, coconut oil, etc.  Did y' all do those cleanses and supplements?  

akelly:they probably have organic pound cake somewhere.  Just think, you can have all you want when you're done with the protocol, and still be skinny!!! YEA!  How much do u want to lose?  

[jennbear73]

I think you should do - what you feel like doing.

I didn't do any of KT's stuff. I'm only going to extend my days from 40-45. I tried eating organic beef and I'm allergic to it - my heart raced all day long it felt like I was having a heart attack.

If you want to buy organic - go for it.  The only thing I buy is apples that are organic.

Do what works for you.

I've lost 33 pounds and I still have 15 days left. I'm loving this program.

[skylamesa]

ubflossn... thanks a ton! I cant wait to start I will research  IM's to see what one will work better for me. So do you skip a day a week?

I don't think you can have any soda whether it is diet or not, I know that will be hard for my too.

Hope everyone is having a great weekend!!!

[akelly]

I'd like to lose the 70 pounds i've gained...and then lose about 30 more! but as of this moment, i'm just focused on my next pound....

I've lost 10.2 pounds since Sunday...I start my new batch tomorrow. I was really worried about my hunger today having no shot, but it seemed to be the same as any other day on the program. Little hungry here and there.

I'm hoping next week the hunger will go down a bit. Did anyone feel hungry the first week and then have it subside during week 2?

[Lindaloo]

Hi Everyone:
It's been a while since I have had a chance to check in . . .  Ani . . . I know my friends called me from FL and told me about the waves . . . I'm stuck in a basement here in NY . . . sick . . . . they were glass and 6-8 foot here on the south shore of Long Island today but I had an open house and missed it . . . I've reached P4 yesterday but I'm going to chill with my mad self and keep the diet simple . . . I know if I start introducing pasta and too much cheese and sugar my body will go back . . . so I'm stepping lightly . . .  Mresearcher: the same thing happened to me in P3 . . .  don't get over zealous . . take it slow everyone and one new food at a time!!! Learn from our experience!! Anyhoo . . . I've stabalized at 140 for a few days and am hoping to drop another 5lbs with some consistant exercise and simple foods . . . . we'll see . . . and good luck to all!! Loo-Loo

[kelly_mcquirk]

Has anyone else experienced the HCG shortage?  I was going to order mine so I can start right after the holiday, and according to some on another post, GHI said there is a nationwide shortage.  I don't want to lose hope, and this is the last thing I know will work, I pray it won't be difficult to get.  Please let me know if anyone has ordered any recently and was able to get it.  Thank you so much.  Future HCG loser in a good way, I hope!!!

[KiowaCowGirl]

Kelly- I haven't heard of a shortage, but several people have mentioned getting all your Hcg at once to save on shippping and such.

I finally have been able to track my order, much to my dismay. I was hoping it would be here any day now and i could get started, but mine just shipped from India on the 2nd.
I really wanted to get started with some of the newbies-maybe I'll find someone when mine finally does get here.

Anyone planning on starting in the next couple of weeks?

[kelly_mcquirk]

Thanks.  I wanted to start right away, but I thought income tax time would be good, then I can get all the stuff I need. I'm a single working mom, so that made sense to me.  I can't wait though, I need to lose 100 lbs.  I put that on in five years!  Look forward to see how you do.

[iowabutterfly]

My hubby and I started our VLCD Oct. 30th.  -(6 days) I have lost 9 lbs., hubby has lost 11.5 lbs. We are doing IM - 150 IU.   This diet is just sooooo GREAT!  Was wondering if anyone mixes their veggies each meal - etc. lettuce, tomato, cucumber in a salad?  Or sometimes I am cooking onions with my meat and also having some lettuce at same meal.  Also how do you measure veggies -like 1/2 or 1 cup - OR by the calories in each and making sure you don't go above 500 total cal. in diet?   I know Dr. Simeons says one type of veggie but I have been mixing (watching calories) to make things taste better. Seems to be working OK - just wondered what all of you are doing.

As I said we are doing the IM.  Have not had any problems as yet.  I went on the Web to see lots of pictures of where the IM shots should be placed.  That helped a lot.  Just make sure we stay a long way from the Sciatic nerve in our buttocks as that would NOT be good to hit that. We have been giving them in thighs and buttocks so far.  The first shot was the hardest  - now it's a breeze.

Sounds like everyone is doing so great.  WE WILL BE SLIM!!!!!

[veggiegal]

My sister and I are planning to start on Thanksgiving.  That will be our first gorge day and the next day with lots of leftovers for our second day.  My hcg was shipped from India on  11/31 and cleared customs here yesterday.  We might be starting about the same time.

[ubflossn]

you ordered 20 ampules of 5000iu??  that's a lot.  each ampule of 5000 mixed with 25cc bac water will get you 25 days of 200iu injections.  you'll be sellin that stuff on here to those folks that are still waiting and waiting for their stuff to arrive. looks like you mixed it correctly though.  good luck and stick with the protocol.  it works!

akelly:  you can get some unflavored gelatin and mix with some liquid stevia.  there are yummy flavors like orange cream and vanilla cream....english toffee and dark or milk chocolate.  get creative an maybe puree some fruit like strawberries and use the vanilla cream liquid stevia.  that way you aren't getting the sugar substitute but still having a treat with no more calories than your allowable fruits.  

well folks phase 3 is going well so far.  i was a little worried because i seem to be still dropping since starting phase 3 and i know dr s said no more than 2lbs.  well i ended at 165.6 and today i'm at 162.2.  i'm trying to eat about 1500 cal but i think i'll increase it a bit.  loo told me that on the other forum there were people still losing in phase 3 and 4 and it didn't give them any problems.  i was worried that if i lost more during this phase i would have a hart time on the occasional excesses because my metabolism would slow down to a new lower level.  i'll have to see how it goes.  i'm due for my period (another one!!!) next week so i'm sure i'll gain for that fine event!  anyway, phase 3 is going great!  i'm loving the new foods.  i really love being able to enjoy some yogurt again(i miss creamy desert type things).  i buy the fage greek yogurt and mix vanilla cream stevia and fresh berries in it.  OMG!!!  i got an ice cream maker and i'm working on a recipe for some homemade ice cream with organic cream/milk stevia and some type of flavors for the holidays.  i ordered that ebook recipe book that someone was talking about (i can't remember where the first info came from) and it has some wonderful recipes in it.  i recommend anyone getting bored with their food choices to invest in it.  it also has some adaptations for phase 3 so we can continue to eat healthy but add all the wonderful foods we've been missing in phase 2.  
so i was disappointed i wouldn't reach my goal weight before my wedding in december but if i continue to drop a little here and there maybe i'll get close.  i'm shooting for 145 and a final weight.  that seems like a number that is reasonable without me going overboard.  so i'm roughly 17lbs away.  i'll be back for another round with you guys after christmas probably!
keep up the good work gals(and guys)!!  you guys are rocking this diet!!

[mommyiam]

Had a strange thing happen Sat morning...We ere up till about 1230 Fri night, but I usually wt in the morning around 0630-0700, I happened to wake up to go pee at 0630 and decided to wt myself.  t showed a ) loss from prior day.  I decided to go back to bed and get some more sleep.  About 0800 my daughter got in bed with me and we snuggled for about 30 min when I decided to go to the bathroom and wt again.  Down 1.4 #s!  I checked it and rechecked it.  Doesn't make a bit of sense, but that is what happened.  I thought for sure Sun morning would be very low or zero, it showed a 0.8 loss.  Then this morning another 1.4!  I have now reached 30 lbs loss in 21 days of the VLCD!  I can't believe it!!  Being tired this weekend, and maybe cause my period is about to start, I was feeling a bit moody, and sad.  It is just I have sooo much further to go!  It is hard to imagine actually losing all this weight.  But, this morning with yet another good loss, and better sleep last night help give a better outlook.  Everyday, just one day at a time:)!  Good Luck to all of you!!!

[mommyiam]

It sounds like you are doing awesome!!!!  Do they sell vanilla liquid cream stevia, or it that something you created?  Sorry if that sounds stupid, all I have is the powder packages

[KWash]

No, my spotting has stopped, but I am closley approaching my monthy cycle.

[KWash]

No, my spotting has stopped, but I am closley approaching my monthy cycle.

[soexcited]

mommy - WOW!!!!!   30lbs in 21 days, how great is that!!!!  I am so proud of you, what discipline!! That is what it takes to have that kind of loss.  Keep it up


ub - Glad the hcg diet recipe book is working for you, I would recommend everyone get it.  It make our food so much more interesting.   Heck with just boring baked chicken, it has about 24 different ways to cook chicken plus so much more.

ak - Something I tried when I have a sweet tooth.  Take a strawberry (OK on Dr. Simeons protcol) mash it up use a drop or two of stevia and put it on a melba toast.  YUM YUM!!!

patmdon - I didn't do all the stuff KT recommends either.  My budget is kind of tight and his phase 1 is so expensive.  The one thing that I wish I had done and I will do it before my second round are the cleanses.  I bought the colenix and the toxinout.  I think they are right about being clean on the inside.  I am also slowly introducing several of the other suggestions into my program.  Just start that is the main thing!!!   Good luck.


I'm down another .8. Not a full lb. but will do. Started vlcd on Oct 15 for a total of 23.4 in 19 days. Not to bad at all!!!!     I do have trouble drinking my water on the week-ends so my weight loss is usually less.  Hope to bust the next 10lb goal tomorrow.

I'm so glad I don't have to worry about that period thing any more.  So sorry for the rest of you. NOT!!!!!

Have a blessed day all!!

[KiowaCowGirl]

It looks like we are going to be starting around the same time. I found out my shipment is at JFK in customs, so as long as it get thru, I'll be starting real soon. I have decided for maximum results I will follow the protocol as close as possible, which means I'll start after my monthly. I think my delievery will be here at the same time , so I guess I won't die waiting a few more days.  Thanksgiving (ick) I'm plannig on starting before then-(if I can) I hope thats not a mistake.
I'm so glad we will have each other for support. I am soooooo excited!

[SheriBerry]

I'm a newbie and just found this board! Wahooo! I ordered my HCG last week and am excited to get this process started. I have Hashimoto's and was wondering if anyone else on the board had any thyroid issues and whether or not the HCG worked as well as with the people who didn't any thyroid problems. I have tried everything to lose weight, I have been down to 900 calories for about 2 months now and last week when I stepped on the scale and gained 4 pounds over night that was my breaking point so I ordered the injections. I only pray they work. Nothing else has seemed to work for me. Well, just dropping in to say hello and to hopefully join you all in your weight loss!

[mommyiam]

Sorry to be a pain...I was looking for the recipe book and can't find it.  I thought you said it was on hcgdietinfo . com?  Would one of you please post again where I can find it.  Thanks a bunch!!

[patmdon]

Hi all!  Thanks for your input.  How much Organic is every1 doing?  I'm waiting on my hcg & supplies to come.  Hope there's no shortage.  I ordered hcg on 11/2.  Any idea when I might expect it from drugdelivery?  Does it need to be refrigerated immediately upon receipt, or not till it's mixed?  Another thing...what's the best (&cheapest) scale to use? I want to get all my stuff so I'll be ready to start when my stuff gets here.  Looking soooo forward to joining you all in reporting my weight loss, too!  Keep happy!    

[patmdon]

How do you get your name blue?  When I signed up it didn't ask for any info like age or state.  Just curious.

[patmdon]

Thanks for the advice-gonna do some cleanses, too. RE:shots Are both types, IM & Subq equally effective?  I'm doing subq- kinda afraid of the other.  Good for U, Iowabutterfly, seems you know what you're doing with the IM shots.  Are u a nurse?  

[mommyiam]

Drug Del seems to have some inconsistancies in time to arrive...mine took about a month, but I have heard of some getting it quicker.  Only refrig after mixing.  As far as scales go, I am using something my husband had (kinda like what we used in HS science class) but I have heard rec to get a postage scale (Wal Mart has them for around $20-$30).  And aas far as organics go, I try to do as many as I can, I do not have a very great variety here, but usually find what I need.  Hope your stuff arrives quickly, look forward to reading about your loses too!

[akelly]

pat: I'm trying to do as much organic as i can. i found an organic sweetener with no calories called Organic Zero. Its granulated and i like it a lot. I'm also trying to do all the meat antibiotic free etc... and organic veggies and fruits as much as i can. I got my order from dd in about 2 weeks but i've heard 3-4 is average. I believe that the hcg only needs to be refrigerated once mixed (i hope!!). Please someone correct me if I'm wrong on that! By scale to you mean food or person? I just bought a new food scale cause my digi one went haywire. I got it from Linens N Things for 10 bucks and it seems to be pretty accurate. My regular scale is from Walmart I think. Its Weight Watchers brand and its digi. I think its accurate most of the time but for the last few days when I get on a few times I get readings that range a couple of pounds.

gracie: I upped to somewhere between 160-175. I have no idea, I mixed the 1500 with 1cc of solvent, plus 8 more, instead of 9. Yesterday I felt awful....angry, sad, hungry...desperate for a glass of wine to make me feel better. I didn't though. My weight has been the same 3 days straight.
Today I felt great though. Energized and not hungry at all. In fact I haven't even eaten yet...its about 8pm. That is probably bad though I'm sure. But I'm so happy not be hungry FINALLY!

I don't know why I'm stalled. I've been eating huge apples and huge tomatoes. And I had a few 10 calorie jellos yesterday....could be that but deep down I don't think it is. I'm not peeing much when I go and I need to go a lot. I think it is the breakdown of fat cells...I'm hoping. I really think I'll have lost some tomorrow I'm hoping, or else I'm doing the apple day!

[akelly]

PS...thanks for the snacking ideas! I bought the bullet blender yesterday which I LOVE. I made strawberry sorbet last night with strawberries, ice, water and organic zero sweetener. It was great!

[akelly]

PPS

I don't know how you get your name blue and clickable. I entered in my info/mood etc and I thought that was what it was.

[patmdon]

mommy:thanks for the idea of postage scale.  I'm gonna check it out.
akelly: thanks for your response.  It all helps.  I wish I had my stuff to start.  In the meantime I'll just keep reading your posts and get psyched to get thin!  Keep up the good work every1.  Keep your eye on the goal.  You're ALL TERRIFIC!

[patmdon]

If you could only pick one cleanse to do before you start inj & diet, which would you do?

[patmdon]

I understand organic meats, but where do u find organic fish?  What's every1 eating?  Also, how do you measure the veggies?  OMG!  I wish I were doing this already.  I'm going to angst myself to death waiting LOL (not really).  I know "All Good things in time."

[patmdon]

Hey Look! I got my name blue. yeah!

[iowabutterfly]

No i'm not a nurse.  I just spent a lot of time on the internet web pages that talked and showed how to do the IM shots.  My husband nearly fainted when I showed him the 1 1/4" needle the first time but he takes his shot with no problems.  He even gives me my shot with no problems.  Just needed to get by that first scarry time!  For me, the mixing was almost more scarry!

I am also a bit confused about the veggies.  Wether to mix different veggies or just have one veggie at each meal.  Have seen people on program that has done each way and lost so guess we will just have to try each way and find out what works for us.  Today I made a soup for supper in the crock pot using our 100 g (each) of steak, a tiny bit of onion, cabbage and Mrs. Dash's spices.  We broke up our Melba Toast into the soup.  It was really yummy.  Will see tomorrow what it did to our wieght loss.
  

[808guy760]

I need Info. to start I live in maui and none of the doc.s here won't even here anything about this HCG stuff. I even made cd's for the diffrent doc.s I went to so they can read about it. and all the told me was I had high cholesterol and wanted to put me on meds. I have my blood work with me and need to find out how and where I can get started. my adds. is petoscuba2003atyahoodotcom any help is good help right now.

[808guy760]

I need Info. to start I live in maui and none of the doc.s here won't even here anything about this HCG stuff. I even made cd's for the diffrent doc.s I went to so they can read about it. and all the told me was I had high cholesterol and wanted to put me on meds. I have my blood work with me and need to find out how and where I can get started. my adds. is petoscuba2003atyahoodotcom any help is good help right now.

[KWash]

Hello,
Go to www.nationalmedicalclinic.com  and click on HCG WEIGHT LOSS & DIET PROGRAMS
or www.ghihrt.com  then click on weight management. I went through (National Medical Clinic) they are good and thourough.

[lisa3010]

Im about to get started on the HCG diet.
can anyone clarify what happens when I'm on my period?

[akelly]

Just thought I would check in and announce that I'm down 11.6! Thats 10 days total, and 8 days VLCD. My scale is giving me problems. If I had gotten on just the one time today, I would be saying that I'm down 12.7...and if I had given up after 3 times, it would be 10.9...but I kept going on til it gave me the same answer a few times in a row and it finally stopped in the middle at 11.6 down. I'm getting pissed though at this scale. Does everyone just take the first reading? Or do you go on a few times to be sure its right?
Pat: I just did a whole body thistle cleanse during phase 1, but I kind of wish I had done the candida cleanse. Though I've heard you should do the candida & heavy metal on phase 3.

I've been mixing veggies too (1/3 small onion in my chili, tomatos and cucumber in my salad) I've been wondering if that is okay too. I have a really hard time adding up calories for everything, I don't know how much to allot myself for stuff I guess. After my 3 day stall though I've been determined to try and really measure all the veggies and fruits so I'm not fooling myself into thinking my apple is 80 calories when it is probably 150. Last night I had a tomato for a midnight snack and it was over a pound! I hadn't eaten "dinner" so I told myself it was okay....

[patmdon]

akelly:G'morning! I'm going to do the candida cleanse.  KT has it listed in Phase 1. He also lists the metal cleanse in Phase 1 too.  
In P2 it says 1 lg handful of vegs.  How precise does vegs need to be if that's the measurement unit LOL???  I think there's plenty room for error there.  Congrats to all the LOSERS!!

[pqueen]

   Hi, Im on day 4 of the protocol and I went for a colonic today as I had not had a movement since I began!!  I had lost 6 pounds in the first 4 days and that has been great, but since my clean out I feel bloated again!!  Also, have been experiencing some bouts od pretty foul gas.  Has anyone else?? Will this go away??  Im nervous to be in public!!  Also have not had a full night of sleep!!!!!!!!!!  I thought it was toxins working their way out of my blood stream but this is crazy!!  Between having to pee every half hour and itchy skin ( I was a lotion/oil fanatic and without it my skin feels tight ) Im up all night!!!!  Lastly, has ANYONE been taking Eleotin?? KT talks about taking it but gives no explaination why, what it is, where to get it ect.  I havent noticed any logs on this site about it.  This weekend Im getting a Thai massage (1st time) Ill tell you how it goes!

[mommyiam]

I'm curious about your progress on p2.  I think we may be the only ones on this site doing IM shots.  I have had fantastic results, I do have alot to lose (about 130# from the start of this).  I have had several days with a big fat zero loss, but it seems to always catch up.  I started my cycle today, so will see how, if it changes anything.  But so far down 30#'s in 22 days of VLCD.

all --Just had a yummy soup for lunch...Boil chicken in about 2 cups water, add some seasonings (making broth), let it boil for 15 min.  Dice up onion (one large handful) add it, 1/2t curry, 1/4 t cin, and 1/4 t pumpkin pie seasoning.  Boil then simmer about 30 min.

It has really made me feel better to eat a few different meals.  Gives me a renewed positive energy!  Still looking for that e-book with hcg recipes...Anyone find it?

Good Luck all you LOSERS!

[melcot]

My understanding is that you stop injections during your period and resume once its over.  Simeons says in his paper that he stops injecting on the heaviest flow days and that you shouldn't feel hungry during this time.  I don't know personally because I got my period on the day of my last injection.  Good luck to you - this worked really well for me!

[akelly]

I'm a little confused about the stopping during your period thing. If you were a guy (for example) you would do 6 weeks, 6 shots per week. So a total of 36 I guess. So if you get your period in the middle of the six weeks, which most women should, are you extending the time to do the full 36 shots?