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I lost 12lbs in 4 hrs -trick
I lost 30 lbs in 28 days - trick (eating over 500 grms of carbs,there goes that claim)
I can lose 5-10lbs a week...every week..
I can lose 5 lbs a week eating pure junk food..
THE 2 BIGGEST SCAMS IN THIS COUNTRY IS ATKINS..AND DIET SODA..but that abother post..so if you could in short tell me the 'new' or secreet thin g you think KEVIN has shown you ? DID you know HCG is very well known and used in the body building world with steroids..for..........testes..and tesicles..so if you girls want 'balls' sorry but..lol
keep injecting HCG..heres a lil history for you..TO PUT SHORT IN MEN THEY USE HCG TO STOP THERE BALLS FROM SHRINKING..IN NO SHAPE WAY OR FORM HAS THIS EVER BEEN USED OR PROVEN FOR WEIGHT LOSS IN ANY WAY...
Chorionic gonadotropin is a hormone found in the female body during the early months of pregnancy (it is produced in the placenta). It is in fact the pregnancy indicator looked at by the over the counter pregnancy test kits, as due to its origin it is not found in the body at any other time HCG offers us some interesting benefits. In the United States, we have the two popular brands, Pregnyl, made by Organon, and Lepori, made by Farma- Lepori, Spain. These are FDA approved for the treatment of undescended testicles in young boys, hypogonadism (underproduction of testosterone) and as a fertility drug used to aid in inducing ovulation in women. When prepared as a medical item, this hormone comes from a human origin. Although there is often a fear of biological origin products, there is little research to be found regarding pathogen or sterility problems with HCG. The problems seen with human origin growth hormone are certainly not to be repeated with HCG, as this compound is obtained in a much different way. While HCG offers the female no performance enhancing ability, it does prove very useful to the male steroid user. The obvious use of course being to stimulate the production of endogenous testosterone. The activity of HCG in the male body is due to its ability to mimic LH (luteinizing hormone), a pituitary hormone that stimulates the Leydig's cells in the testes to manufacture testosterone. Restoring endogenous testosterone production is a special concern at the end of each steroid cycle, a time when a subnormal androgen level (due to steroid induced suppression) could be very costly. The main concern is the action of cortisol, which in many ways is balanced out by the effect of androgens. Cortisol sends the opposite message to the muscles than testosterone, or to breakdown protein in the cell. Left unchecked (by an extremely low testosterone level) in the body, cortisol can quickly strip much of your new muscle mass away. The main focus with HCG is to restore the normal ability of the testes to respond to endogenous luteinizing hormone. After a long period of inactivity, this ability may have been seriously reduced. In such a state testosterone levels may not reach a normal point, even though the release of endogenous LH has been resumed. Many who have suffered severe testicular shrinkage may be able to relate, as it is often some time before normal testicle size and feelings of virility are restored if ancillary drugs had not been used. The excessive stimulation brought forth by administration of HCG can likewise cause the testicles to rapidly return to their normal size and level of activity. We are not simply looking for it to fix the problem however, as the resulting high testosterone level can itself trigger negative feedback inhibition at the hypothalamus. Estrogen production is also heightened with the use of HCG, due to its ability to increase aromatase activity in the Leydig's cells.
Don't respond to the jabs to pick a fight.
you are scared of the truth..sad..so very sad....shouldnt be long before KEVEN.T ends up back in jail..lol his whole book ,he was paid to endorse them people and websites...wake up people..stop surfing the net...,excercise and eat healthly....no need to inject urine...have a great day :)
- Makes the diet easy to do because it alleviates hunger you would normally feel on a 500 Cal diet (not until the 4th or 5th injection in most people, however, affected me after the 1st injection).
- Targets difficult, abnornal fat and helps restructure the body. (Some people in Dr Simeon's practice actually ate to gain weight so they could later do the HCG+diet to lose 'in the right places').
- Helps regulate the Hypathumus gland so you don't regain so easily after the diet (the downfall of most diets).
I am experiencing some added benefits - it seems to be reducing swelling for me. Had dramatic reduction from swelling in my knees, ankles, and elbows from Arthritis.
With only eating 500 calories, aren't you guys really tired all the time? We need calories for energy.
Like I said, I don't know too much about it as far as weight loss claims go. And I won't be using it any time soon, but I am curious to what the title of this book is that everyone is talking about...that way I can at least read it. Thanks!
"- Targets difficult, abnornal fat and helps restructure the body. (Some people in Dr Simeon's practice actually ate to gain weight so they could later do the HCG+diet to lose 'in the right places').
- Helps regulate the Hypathumus gland so you don't regain so easily after the diet (the downfall of most diets)."
Also at that web site is a database containing results from many people who have been following this diet. It's pretty impressive - last I looked there were over 80 people on the Database.
Most of us are not having hunger problems at all, which is one of the big advantages of HCG. Dr Simeon writes that when you start experiencing hunger pains after being on the diet (usually around the 36th-40th day of shots), it's time to stop taking the hCG and take a 'break' (6 weeks or longer). He also said that hcg will not work on people who do not need it (people who just imagine that they are overweight).
I hope you have a long and healthy life. Please do not continue to make people believe that this is a scam, it maybe the only chance they have of becoming healthy. Does that not bother you that you could hurt people by pushing your own narrow minded opinion on people. I say let them do the work and research for themselves. Thank you
Debi
Hmm....I am sure there is some truth in there abdn some scam...and Opinions are like noses...everyone has one. ( yeah I read that somewhere =p)
ok...the reason people who dont exercise and eat low cals and still dont lose weight is becuase your body doesnt require that much to survive. If I was bedridden, and couldnt move, I would not be able to eat alot since I woudl gain weight. Oh weight, that happened to me after surgery. So that is what happened to ME, not saying it will ALWAYS happen to ALL people. My opinion.
Eating 500 cals and working out, dan right you will lose weight UNLESS you have other medical issues. And there have been cases that HCG didnt work for epople (according to other foums) to late find out its becuase they ordered it ONLINE without going to a REAL doctor and foudn out that they had serious problems. Bleh.
I am not going to be taking HCG for some main reasons. One, is that I have some of those serious issues. I have been dieting for SO LONG that I have put my body into a state of malnutrition. =( boohoo for me, but thats the way it is.
I am also amemic, and have other minor things that no "diet" is going to fix.
BUt if anyone, and I mean ANYONE thinks for one second that they can take hcg, lose all the weight, and this is going to CURE them from ever getting fat again...is blinded by a huge scam. Seriously. SO so so wrong. Those are the people that we shoudl help, not argueing whether it works for this or that.
Lets say I took hcg, lost the weight with the dieting and working out that he says in the book you have to.
Do you think for one second that I can just say...hmmm, Im hungry, lets go out to eat and have a meal. Ok, Im full. and not GAIN WEIGHT?
Its like TOTALLY depending on WHAT I ate, how much I ate and all that.
You cant just eat whatever, you have to watch your calories, your sugar, your fat, your carbs...if thats too much to do, then stay fat and love yourself for who you are and stop obssessing on it.
This argueing all the time to prove who is right and who is wrong is SO stupid is almost amusing and yet annoying.
I thought this forum would be informative but all its being is a bitchfest to prove who has the bigger balls. WHO CARES
People come here, they read the bad parts the good parts andmake up their own mind. Its a wonderful thing to have freedom, enjoy it. Having someone scream at you that their way is the only way and then another persn screaming NO MY way is the only way and both sides argueing they are right....its stupid.
WHO CARES who is right or wrong. DO what YOU want to do, and she will do what SHE wants to do and HE will do what HE wants to do. But to call someone stupiud because they dont do it YOUR way or another person sayign the same thing...you will get NO WHERE.
Some epopel believe in Dr S's stuff. Good for them. SOme epopel think its all bullshit...GOOD for tem too. Does it really matter? Everyone will do what they want to do. If I want to inject COW pee in my veins in hopes it helps me, then thats MY peragotaive. If I dont want to inject anything...then guess what, thats my CHOICE too!!! But to have epople from both sides yelling and screaming they are both right, its diminishing that base of this forum which is to support one another ON the choice we make.
I for one, am not on hcg, I am going to moisturize my skin, and condition my hair and soak in a tub of rose milk.. You know why? becuase I LIKE IT. I like looking good, smlling good and feeling how I want to feel. But if you wont want to, thats your choice. I dont care if you want to stop using lotions, thats YOUR choice and good for you. If it works for you, KUDOS.
People need to stop saying its bullshit either way, because not ONE PATH fits all walks of life. DO what you want to do. Be who you want to be. And believe what you want to believe.
I swear if you replaced HCG with GOD, this is nothing more than a holy war of who is more righteous.
Get over it.
A good place to start your research is www.hcgobesity.org
To answer sone of your "reasons"as to why HCG supplemntation will not work:
1, You say that HCG "tricks" your body into thing it is pregnant. This is a misnomer. HCG is constantly present in the human body in minute amounts. It incresases the most during pregnancy (as it is primarilky produced by the plactenta), which is why it is used as an indicator that your body is pregnant. You seem to think that HCG causes your body to think it's pregnant. The only drug that I am aware of that that actually has this effect is Depo-provera, a drug used to inhibit fertility in women. Interestingly, there are many many documented side-effects of Depo-provera (just take a look at their web-site for possible complcations), yet it is approved by the FDA. As I said, the presence of HCG in the human body is used as an INDICATOR for pregnancy. HCG has been found in EVERY human tissue, also in males and non pregnant females.
2. The FDA "says so": The FDA also gives speed to our kids in the form of Ritalin. Over 50 000 people are killed every year by drugs approved by the FDA. The FDA does not look out for the consumer. Just because they put labels on a substance saying it is bad does not mean it is bad, just as their approval does not mean that the drug is perfectly safe. Just loook at Phen-phen and tell me you still trust the FDA.
3. "Men use it to stop their balls from shrinking" - again, you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of the function of this chemical. It is not used to keep their balls from shrinking. It is used to either a) make the testes respond to LH after a period of decreased testosterone production (including from over-use of anabolic steroids), which has the added benefit of increasing testicular size IF THE ORIGINAL SIZE HAD BEEN DIMINISHED DUE TO LACK OF FUNCTIONING HORMONES and b) to induce the testes to descend in boys when it had not occured naturally, again due to low testosterone levels. However, HCG also has the honor of being the metabolic regulator in the body once pregnancy takes over. Basically, once the body detects pregnancy through various hormonal means (including increased levels of HCG), HCG takes over the regulation of body fat usage. If, during pregnancy, the female loses her food source and begins to starve, the HCG will act as a safeguard, over-riding the normal fat-hoarding functions of leptin and ghrelin (the hormones that normally regulate the storage of bodyfat) and causing the body to shed fat from its emergency reserves. These emergency fat reserves also include the metabolically active brown fat surrounding organs, as well as the dreaded "belly-fat", which is only released when cortisol levels are low enough. Interestingly, Cortisol is released during high stress. Given todays lifestyles in North America, we can see this phenomenon at work in the typical type "A" personality, with it's huge stomach and skinny legs and arms. These people never relax enough to drop their cortisol levels, which is why so many people have trouble shedding biody fat. All HCG does is by-pass this hormone blockage and allow the fat cells to release their cache. This is also why HCG only works in conjunction with a VLCD (very low calorie diet). This is the one diet where we WANT to induce the starvation mechanism. Once released, the fat is pushed into the bloodstream, where it can be converted into usable energy. Again, if you are eating too much food during the treatment, it will negate the effect of having the fat in the bloodstreeam, and it will simply be returned to it's storage space. This also allows the body to preserve functional muscle tissue, as the body will not allow itself to be cannibalized until all fat reserves are used up. All body resources will be put towards opening the fat stores for easy usage. This is also why you do not feel hungry or sick on the VLCD, as opposed to non-HCG VLCD protocol. The body may not be taking in calories in the form of food, but there is plenty of fuel for the body to use because it is released from the fat cells at the rtate of abou 2000 kcals per day. This is why we see such rapid weight loss on this protocol, and it is not dangerous.
I have done over 6 months of research into this weight loss method, reviewing every study I could find (in the Lancet, online, from all over the world) and am thouroughly convinced of its efficacy. As a doctor, I will not put something into my body without researching it thoroughly myself first. Please do not believe everything you read from anyone, including me. Please find out all the information you can, and make the decision based on what's best for you. Don't pass along the propoganda from either side of the debate, but find your own path and accecpt responsibility for your own health. NO ONE ELSE KNOWS YOUR BODY LIKE YOU DO. God Bless
show me 1 FROM SOMEONME NOT SELING ANYTHING..
. hcgobesity-----
A BOCUS SITE IN EHICH THEY SELL HCG..read it better..
very good post...and,froma far seems like you made great points...still no proof.....and when body builders use. it.why dont they lose fat from it ?
(i know bodybuilders who use it,and all roids) they laugh at the fat loss claims..
I noticed you left out any side affects...you left out how smart it is for people ,mostly men to take HCG...to 'feed the baby thats not there' ..in truth It was a very good ,typed post...but in the end...nothing is different..fooling..and tricking your body is nonsense..ands if you are a DR.then you should know better..I asked 3 baby dr's already..and the dr WHO 'SNIPPED' me..they all laughed... all of you can call me anything..and say anything..but DO NOT forget Im not mad at anyone at all..never was..I mad at scams..liers...and CRIMINALS like KT AND im mad that peolle are fooled..not 'at' the people..so to be fair..ILL ask you the same..PROOF please..the website you posted is either yours..or a very,very bad example for PROOF.. www.hcgobesity.org GOOD LUCK TO YOU..
OH 1 MORE THING...YOU SAID----The body may not be taking in calories in the form of food, but there is plenty of fuel for the body to use because it is released from the fat cells at the rtate of abou 2000 kcals per day. This is why we see such rapid weight loss on this protocol, and it is not dangerous.
AS A DR YOU SAY ITS NOT DANGEROUSE...HMM..ODD...and 2000 kcals...hmm..you have a fetus for this to pass though ? becasue this is how a baby is fed....
Debi
I would also like to thank the Doctor that left a post and gave detailed information that can be looked up in a medical journal or confirmed with a Doctor of your own choice. I am insulted for this Doctor that someone that won't give their medical background has the nerve to respond to this Doctor like they think they are God almighty. My final informed decision on what I put into my body I give over to my God, so I have compete faith in what I am doing!
I wish everyone well in what ever choice they make. Just make sure it is your informed choice and not someone you don't know saying you don't know anything and they know everything.
God bless
Debi
I am more apt to listen to someone NOT selling it, since they have no gains.
I do see a flow here tho, if you believe in HCG and sing its praises, then you are ok, but if you dont believe in it, you are shunned and scorned. I dont think thats fair. Everyone is allowed an opinion.
Can we get back to supporting people in weightloss and less on the war on hcg?
If hcg works for you, more power to you darlins!!! I am happy to see anyone losing and very happy to support them.
i just know that i have to get my self to exercise but i have not energy to do so,
I'm on my 40 now if i don't do it now i maybe never do it,
good luck to every one and do not belive in pills
sorry about my spelling I'm a latino
thanks
it does not excist in a medical jounral..sorry..and thats my point../
Please post it for all of us. )
Will you stop calling them peepee injecters lol...its so belittling. Gooberhead.
I am being serious, I would love to read some medical journals that support this. Its actually one reason I think I am most skeptical, other then my own Dr saying not for me either. But I would still like to know. =D
A couple weeks later, I had an appointment with my Endocronologist who informed me that HCG does not help those with Hypothyroidism and can actually make it worse. There is no actual proof the HCG hormone actually does anything to lose the weight – it is the 500 calorie a day diet that makes the person lose weight and as long as they stay at that level they will keep the weight off. That amount of calories is actually less than Prisoners of War receive while held captive. He is one of thousands of physicians who are against HCG and the misconceptions that surround it. We are now on a path to try and help me lose the weight, as I have continued to gain since the HCG at an even faster rate than ever before. I STRONGLY recommend that those with Hypothyroidism as well as those who don’t stay clear of the HCG diet at all costs. It isn’t worth the health risks.