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How many really know about HCG for weight loss

by cali209, Jun 18, 2007 12:00AM
I have been to many forums and blogs which sent me on a quest for the original
book on hcg used for weight loss.
Has anyone out there read the original diet info???
  The doctor is so very specific about dosage and calories??????? I keep reading about 00-600-800 calories and it is spelled out that you have to stick to a specific amount!! not only that they have to be taken in specific quantities protein, fruits and vegis,,,,,,, NO STARCH!!!!!!
  I tell you this if you are to lazy to find and read information you are to lazy to follow the very extremely strict diet drug regime period.
  I am not talking about all the new books to make money I am talking about the 1959 report in the doctors journal.
  No offense intended I just wish people to be real if your HCG injections DAILY!! are 25IU over dosed result diminish drastically
Tank you for reading
cali209
Member Comments (29)

by cali209, Jun 18, 2007 12:00AM
To: me
oooooops!!!!
I guess I am a dummy my post should read 500-600-800 calories and say
Thank you not tank you
LOL!!
smile I am trying to help people not hurt themselves or waste money
Thanks
cali209

by granny3, Jun 18, 2007 12:00AM
To: cali209
Where did you find the original report and diet.  I read the one on HCG Dieters Forum.  Is this the correct one.  I was on this diet 20 years ago but it was doctor administered and I did not pay attention to the correct amount of HCG.

by wfrancis952, Jun 20, 2007 12:00AM
To: Granny
Hello this is cali209 I had problems loging in so I opened a new profile. If you would like to write me privately I would be glad to answer any questions I can.
The book was very hard to find online but you can go to Barnes and Knoble and either but it or order it for about $20.00 I can be contacted at cali2092ATcomcast.net. I must tell you if you decide to write I am not a doctor and can not give out any medical advice. I am however a IT worker and am extremely good with web searches and am willing to provide you with information on where to look or search for info. If you wish to order the original book it was written in 1959 by Dr Simeons. You do not need to mess with any of the modern books. it is a very stick regime and you will either do it or not, pay special attention to the gorging part for the first three days it is Important. It is the little details that will give you results.
I was a Bodybuilder for over 2 year and have gained a ton of weight in last 10 and tell you this is only for obese if you only have a few pounds to lose 10-30 just start a good healthy eating plan, even those of us obese need to do this , the diet is only a starter without a healthy lifestyle you will regain. Research healthy eating it means 3 to 6 meals a day of great food, do your research and decide for yourself never listen to any one person including you doctor. All specialist say get a second opinion get to or three or four
Good day mates.
Cali209

by wfrancis952, Jun 20, 2007 12:00AM
To: granny3
hey my mistake again I was a BB over 20 years
silly me

by onvibrate, Jun 24, 2007 01:37PM
i printed out a copy of the book from the files section of the hcgdieters yahoo group at groups.yahoo.com. you have to join the group with a yahoo acct. to be able to log in and print it out.

by fightu35, Jun 25, 2007 07:00PM
copying a book is knowing ?? lmao !! tisk tisk...Cali run far away fast !! HCG is a joke...for 2 weeks..im still waiting for the room dr. (that girl) to send me 1 report on facts..and truth..other then from someone selling it.,

by That girl over there, Jun 26, 2007 09:19PM
I have nothing to prove to you fightu. Although, I would be willing to make an appointment for you to discuss your needed therapy further.
Otherwise, I think I will stick to enjoying the many lives who are changed through the process and keep up to date on the political arena surrounding recent events.

I find it ironic you went from discrediting hCG altogether, then to admitting its other uses, and now just wanting tangible proof of it's benefits during weight loss.  

by fightu35, Jun 27, 2007 07:41PM
you cant prove anything..because they is no proof..leave this people alone

by Satriana, Jun 29, 2007 06:39PM
i read that hcg doesnt work all over the place by people selling other drugs and then I read just as many things about how people are loseing weight using it.

BUt here is the one thing I have noticed. Not a single post from anyone who took hcg and said it doesnt work.

Interesting. So from that pont of view, its seems to me that hcg does work, since people are losing the weight, and those who are not making money from it, are pissed off. I swear thats always the way it is.

I had a guy at my house selling bottled water, telling me I was making myself sick from drinking tap water. I had to laugh. He even showed me Medical Proof about the contaminants in my water. He went on and on and I stood there almost laughing. When he was done, he asked, what I thought was so funny.

I let him know that the aquifer that my well taps for water is the same one used in the bottled water sold under a popular brand name, and that if its good enough to be sold for 2 bucks a bottle on the shelf at the store, then its good enough for me to drink from my sink. I have a filter on my sink as well as a softner outside, but thats to remove the same things they do at the water bottleing plant.

basically, if a person isnt making money from you then they will tell you it doesnt work.

by fightu35, Jun 29, 2007 06:54PM
To: satrina
you seem smart...use your head..come on..lol  you trick your body into thinking its pregant..ive been asking for 2 months.....noone can she 1 true study...from a non seller of HCG its junk..dangerouse..and a waste of $$

by Satriana, Jun 29, 2007 07:50PM
i dont actually care what it does as far as tricking my body, since all those weight pills are the same thing. they trick you into think you arent hungry.
I am just curious as to how these people have energy to do anything on 500 calories a day!! I eat just under 1000 and feel like I am going to die.  I think thats the only thing I am skeptical about.

by behealthy, Jun 29, 2007 10:23PM
To: Satriana
I've been on the program for 14 days and have a very high level of energy.  I've been following Dr. Simeon's protocol to the T and have been consuming only 500 calories per day and I am not hungry.  This would not be possible without the HCG.  I will not get into the technical stuff because there are some here that do a good job of that (those who actually have gone through the program and know firsthand).  I have lost 13 lbs so far and feel the best I've ever felt in my life!  I am 49 years old and was a fitness instructor for 18 years and I feel good now as I did 20 years ago.  I was the most skeptical at first but I did my research and read the 'Pounds and Inches' manuscript by Dr. Simeons several times.  Be careful who you listen to here...........there are always a few naysayers (and usually the ones who haven't gone through the program to prove it to themselves).  Good Luck!

by fightu35, Jun 30, 2007 06:33AM
To: b-healthy,satriana
congrats !! but umm..im still waiting for the proof...oh and satriana..if you notice everyone claiming victory...has been on the program a very short time..WELL OF COURSE THERE GOING TO LOSE WEIGHT ON 500 CALORIES !!
now they wil say yes..but im not hungry...and they are right  ..want to know why ?? because the over feeding (stuffing them selfs) that they are required to do..fills there fat stores..theyre muscel glycogen levels..so when they eat 500 calories(starving) they will not feel it..and at 1st..when you eat so little the body will release fat,from the fat reserves to make up for the so low calorie intake...but then it will switch to 'starvation' mode..and hold on to fat.......I dare any so called EXPERT on here try to tell me this is not 100% true...
*PS
now that I said all are short term...I betcha all of a sudden someone claims to be on the program for monts..sit back and watch..best of luck to you.

by Satriana, Jun 30, 2007 05:20PM
hmm...both of you have good points. I still want to try it, and if it doesnt work then it doesnt work, but the way I look at it is if i lose 10 pounds,then thats 10 more pounds!!!!!! how can I be mad at that? lol
I guess I will tel you in a month or two if it works or not. and trust me I wont hold back if it doesnt, but i seriously am hoping it does.

by fightu35, Jun 30, 2007 08:14PM
good luck ! keep in contact with your doctor  :)

by michelle a, Jul 06, 2007 07:02PM
To: wfrancis952
Oh, and i hate figuring out how to check these post all the time, could anyone e mail me directly at ***@****

by michelle a, Jul 06, 2007 07:10PM
To: wfrancis952
I have a question, I noticed you can buy your own lepori hcg from an online pharmacy, but it is sold i 2500 ui's how do I measure for the amount of iu's I should be taking, which seems like on average between 175-250 iu's a day>  it is less expensive to buy it from the online pharmacy but i don't know the conversions, does anyone???

by fightu35, Jul 07, 2007 06:28PM
To: sheeeeee
stop pimping your spam site. its no proof ,not at all you go to everypost and pimp that site...

by Myangeleyez1072, Jul 07, 2007 09:15PM
I know 2 people in my office (one has been on the HCG Injection and 800 cal. diet for  two weeks, and the other has been on the same diiet for a month). Both of these people are definately losing weight. I see it in their faces, and in how their clothes are fitting now. and both of these women say they are not hungry at all, and have to make themselves eat the required caloric intake for the program. One is exercising as well, while the other is not, but both are losing weight AND inches. I just started my program after watching them drop pounds, and I am excited!

And personally...who gives a flying **** if some negative jerk-off believes in the HCG program or not? I am writng this to those of you who are curious about it and have a need to lose weight. And I don't work for the clinic I go to, but I do work in OB/GYN as a RMA, so I was just as skeptical (that's why I waited to see if the other two would lose weight). So good luck to those of you who are going to try it, and to those who don't I wish you the same positive results no matter what program or method you choose to lose weight.  I only have forty pounds to lose, but I count myself lucky that ALL I have to lose. SOme people have a much harder road to travel than I. Good  luck, and God bless...

by fightu35, Jul 08, 2007 06:46AM
To: my theighs
proof please..lol

by Myangeleyez1072, Jul 08, 2007 07:08PM
To: fightu35
If you are ever in Tulsa , Stop by OSU Physicians OB/GYN. I'll introduce you to the ladies I am talking about. , Ask for Myisha.

"who's afraid of the big bad wolf, the big bad wolf, the big bad wolf...?"

Not I.

PEACE!

by fightu35, Jul 10, 2007 05:40PM
To: SHEEWOOLF !
HA HA I FINALY FIGURED YOU OUT.YOU ARE A SPAMMER !! GUESS WHO OWNS THE LIL YAHOO SITE SHE KEEPS PROMOTEING..

NONE OTHER THEN ...............Owned and coordinated by:
Dr. Daniel Belluscio

I was right the whole time !! spammer !

by mamz, Jul 10, 2007 06:36PM
To: FIGHTU35
YOU KEEP BUGGING OTHERS ABOUT PROOF, WHY DON'T YOU PROOF THAT IT IS DR. DANIEL BELLUSCIO WHO OWNS AND COORDINATES THE YAHOO WEB SITE FOR HCG.....BECAUSE I JOINED THAT GROUP THE DAY IT WAS CREATED BY A MEMBER FROM THIS VERY SUPPORT GROUP AND THE REASON HE CREATED THAT YAHOO SITE WAS BECAUSE MESSAGES /INFO ABOUT HCG KEPT GETTING DELETED AND ALSO PEOPLE LIKE YOU KEPT TRYING TO FEED OTHERS WITH NONSENSE AND SO MOST OF US DECIDED TO GO SOME PLACE WHERE WE CAN SHARE OUR EXPERIENCES WITHOUT THE INTERRUPTIONS OF YOUR KIND.
SO WHETHER DR. DANIEL HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT OR NOT IS NOT THE ISSUE...THE ISSUE IS, THE PEOPLE ON THAT SITE ARE FOR REAL WITH THIER SUCCESS STORIES AND DAILY EXPERIENCES. YOU WERE THER, SO I AM SURE YOU CHECKED OUT ALL THIER INFO...NOTHING IS HELD BACK ON THAT WEB SITE....

THE ONLY PERSON YOU ARE LYING TO IS YOURSELF SO DO YOUR SELF A FAVOR AND STAY AT MYDIETSOLUTION'S WEB SITE.

by fightu35, Jul 10, 2007 09:35PM
To: mammy
yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

by fightu35, Jul 11, 2007 04:40AM
To: she
the site you promote is owned by a spam doctor who sells products...of course the site will have good info...be real son..
hers your proof...........

...............Owned and coordinated by:
Dr. Daniel Belluscio

by Myangeleyez1072, Jul 18, 2007 10:47PM
To: fightu
Sorry, but I am not a spammer. I am a real person who is on this diet and HCG protocol. And you are a HUGE ***. You must really have no life to speak of, to sit around here harrassing people who are only trying to get information and do something to improve their health and well being. People like you make me sick. You live to disrupt and wreak havock. Poor you, to be so pitifully pathetic. What a joke. Well, keep on doing what obviously gives you such delight. Jerk.

To all of you really trying to help or do something positive, do the world a favor, and IGNORE this individual...he or she will eventually find another blog to terrorize!

Myisha Owens-Boyd, RMA
OSU Physicians OB/GYN
717 S. Houston Ave, Ste. 200
Tulsa Oklahoma, 741027
(My employer, idiot.)

by onvibrate, Jul 18, 2007 11:10PM
yes, he's the real spammer and now he is playing the so-called FactReporter who only knows how to always turn an argument in circles by yelling 'show me proof!"
yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. sad,  so sad...so very sad!
imaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

by FactReporter, Jul 19, 2007 12:34PM
To: ANGEL & ONI
OK FORGET FOR 1 MIN THAT YOUR UNDER TRUDEAS SPELL.......READ WHAT HCG IS...AND DOES..AND SHOW ME WHERE IT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH WEIGHT LOSS ?? OK TRY IT..I DARE YA........

hCG interacts with the LHCG receptor and promotes the maintenance of the corpus luteum during the beginning of pregnancy causing it to secrete the hormone progesterone. Progesterone enriches the uterus with a thick lining of blood vessels and capillaries so that it can sustain the growing fetus. Due to its highly negative charge hCG may repel the immune cells of the mother, protecting the fetus during the first trimester. It has also been hypothesized that hCG may be a placental link for the development of local maternal immunotolerance. For example, hCG-treated endometrial cells induce an increase in T cell apoptosis (dissolution of T-cells). These results suggest that hCG may be a link in the development of peritrophoblastic immune tolerance and may facilitate the trophoblast invasion which is known to expedite fetal development in the endometrium.[1] It has also been suggested that hCG levels are linked to the severity of morning sickness in pregnant women.[2]

Because of its similarity to LH, hCG can also be used clinically to induce ovulation in the ovaries as well as testosterone production in the testes. As the most abundant biological source is women who are presently pregnant, some organizations collect urine from gravidae to extract hCG for use in fertility treatment.

   ----------AND  also HCG is hundreds of ammino acids...(proteins) again..protein is good yes..but does not 'trick' your body into release fat stores...its 100% nonsense..

by onvibrate, Jul 19, 2007 08:37PM
Unlike Dr. Simeon's Weight Loss Cure, most diets programs do not work because they do not address the root cause of obesity. The weight you lose on most diet and exercise programs is often not in "problem area fat" like that seen in your hips, thighs and buttocks.

Most diet and exercise programs cause you to lose water, structural fat and muscle.

People with excessive weight issues tend to share three similarities:

You suffer with a low metabolism. This means your body simply does not burn the food you eat as fuel as efficiently as someone operating with a higher metabolism. Naturally thin people burn calories and food quickly. Overweight individuals do not. To cure obesity, the challenge of operating with a low metabolism must be solved and the weight loss cure does exactly that.
You are often hungry. A heavy person is physically more hungry than a naturally thin person. This is a real physiological response to the body requiring more fuel because of the increased size of their bodies. This is not a mental or psychological issue. It is a real physical issue that is addressed by the weight loss cure.
You often eat when not hungry. Compulsive eating, emotional eating and unnatural food cravings all fall into this category. This is a physical response that must also be addressed and Dr. Simeon's weight loss cure protocol also addresses this issue.
Using the Weight Loss Cure Protocol, all of these issues are addressed and handled easily. You can expect to lose an average of one pound per day without feeling hungry. You will lose fat from the problem areas like your hips, thighs, and buttocks without having to exercise.

You will see your body transformed and reshaped as if you had undergone liposuction.

You will enjoy encreased energy and will begin losing weight from day one. You will lose inches from all the problem areas and you will experience a dramatic flattening of the stomach (especially men).

The Weight Loss Cure Protocol will reset your metabolism to that of a normal skinny person. This means, when you have finished the protocol, your body will burn food for fuel more efficiently and you will not feel abnormally hungry. You will not have to deal with willpower or deprivation ever again.

The Weight Loss Cure Protocol, normally a three to six week program, is designed to cause the natural release of these secure fat deposits, reset your metabolism and reset your hypothalamus gland (which controls hunger).

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