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An excess of water keeps the feces soft, and that is very important. While a patient is under HCG treatment they are not permitted the use of any kind of laxativeLaxative fiber Laxative gentle suppositories Laxative overdose taken by mouth. It is perfectly satisfactory and normalNormal saline flush to have an evacuation of the bowel only once every three to four days and that, provided plenty of fluids are taken, this never leadsLead poisoning to any disturbance.
An interesting feature of the HCG method is that, regardless of how fat a patient is, the greatest circumference -- abdomen or hipsHip joint replacement Hip pain as the case may be is reduced at a constant rate which is extraordinarily close to 1 cm. per kilogram of weight lost. At the beginning of treatment the change in measurements is somewhat greater than this, but at the end of a course it is almost invariably found that the girth is as many centimeters less as the number of kilograms by which the weight has been reduced.
Have you been drinking enough water? If not, maybe that's why you're constipated, also all waters are not created equal (talk about an understatement). I'm getting ready to buy a water purification system that's been recommended by KT as well as Dr. Robert Young in his book "The PH miracle for weight loss", where he explains that if you can get your body ph balancedBalanced b-100 Balanced b-100 high potency caplets Balanced b-100 time released high potency caplets Balanced b-50 Balanced diet, you're on your way to your ideal weight. Go to johnellis.com if you're interested in finding out more. Also, try to get enough rest and make sure you're breathing and finding time to be peaceful.
All: I just received my email today from GHI saying my blood test came back normalNormal saline flush as well as my candida yeast test so that's great. Called them, they said I will be contacted within a week by doc to finalize everything and get hcg. Here's hoping time will pass quickly.
I'm 5'6" and 175lbs, I'd love to loose 40lbs and be 135lbs again!! I wonder will I see that number again on the scale. When I finally get my hcg, I'm going to have to stop having the sugar and starches but until then I've been eating normally and taking the detox available through GHI. It's great, it doesn't hurt at all and seems to be gentle but thorough (eliminating a couple sometimes three times a day).
Loo: Do you think it's possible that you've lost all you abnormal fat or is it just a plateau that you have to see your way through? Good luck.......hope the weightloss picks up again soon.
thanks for the info. I know it's in the manuscript but didn'y pay much attention.
anyone tell me if in phase 3 (3wks no starches/sugar) does that mean we omit fruits due to their sugar content or just added sugars like sugar, cane sugar, fructose and other natural sweetners?
Also, has anyone been using Ivory soap, is that ok. I have an all natural soap that I think is ok but it's really pricey.
Mama: Thanks, Mama. I found out where I can find the face serum at a store that's closer to me.
All: Well, this is my first day on the diet. Just thought I would take some time to tell you all where I am and what my goal is. I'm 5'5" tall. I started the gorge at 182.5 lbs. This morning I lost a little again instead of gaining. I'm at 183.0 lbs now. I'm hoping to get down to somewhere between 125 and 130. That will probably take two treatments. Good luck to everyone. Don't give up.
Hey all - for anyone - I ordered mine from dd - received email stating it was shipped on 09/05 (ordered on 09/03) and I received my hcg yesterday 09/13 <<< I think that's pretty good myself - only 8 days!!
Of course now I have to wait because of my monthly friend will be here anyday - :(
i'm water-logged!!! between the water and tea i'm a floater! and i have an RO system (reverse osmosis) for drinking water and ice cubes at my home. i think i have that part covered. i've always had problems with constipation though so i shouldn't be surprised.
today was a little strange though. i drove to the organic market today as planned but i got really shakey and light headed on the way. i tried to ignore it but was afraid so i pulled over. my hands were shaking like crazy. i have a slight problem with hypoglycemia so i debated over if i should get into the glove box and get out a mint i keep there. after it didn't pass i got one out (one of those red and white mint things) and sucked on it for a couple minutes. didn't finish it but felt guilty! i hope it doesn't effect my scale tomorrow. that's been my only infraction!! after that i felt great. not hungry or shakey at all. hmmmmmmm..........
I'm so excited for you to get started!! We are starting at the same height and weight so this will be fun...hopefully I can be encourging on your tough days since I'm 5 days ahead of you....been on VLCD for 5 days and I am down 6.8 lbs...although really I'm only 2.8 lbs cuz I gained 4 on the gorge.
Anyway good luck girl!!
Linda, when you calculate how much you've lost so far, do you count the weight you started at AFTER the gorge or before? Just curious.
I'm so excited for you to get started!! We are starting at the same height and weight so this will be fun...hopefully I can be encourging on your tough days since I'm 5 days ahead of you....been on VLCD for 5 days and I am down 6.8 lbs...although really I'm only 2.8 lbs cuz I gained 4 on the gorge.
Anyway good luck girl!!
Linda, when you calculate how much you've lost so far, do you count the weight you started at AFTER the gorge or before? Just curious.
I'm so excited for you to get started!! We are starting at the same height and weight so this will be fun...hopefully I can be encourging on your tough days since I'm 5 days ahead of you....been on VLCD for 5 days and I am down 6.8 lbs...although really I'm only 2.8 lbs cuz I gained 4 on the gorge.
Anyway good luck girl!!
Linda, when you calculate how much you've lost so far, do you count the weight you started at AFTER the gorge or before? Just curious.
No, I defineately have more fat to lose!! What weird is that I thought I'd lose my belly fat first cause I always had a washboard stomach before 40 but that seems to be the last thing that wants to leave me now??? I hate it!!!!! Hoping it's just a lull . . . lost one lb. since yesterday so If that keeps up hopefully I'll reach my goal in the next 2 weeks!!
i guess i can't be too disappointed in the loss. it's just now day 4 of the vlcd and i'm down 4.4lbs. so that's really only 3 days of dieting because today isn't over yet! so after 3 days of dieting 4.4lbs gone! pretty nice start! we can do this.
mama..........at the market today there was a gal there that had my impression of a perfect bod (not that i'm looking....) anyway, now i have the mental pic of where i want to go. now that's motivation!!
I am sooo jealous!!! I ordered from drugdelvery on the 24th of last month, and only now have received an updated email that it shpped out on the 12th. Someone else ordered and they were worse than me, 20 days and counting (sorry forgot the name) was looking to see if they ever received theirs. Hopefully I will have for next week to start. Best of luck with your start!
where is everyone injecting?? Same site every day, what is working the best for everyone? Anyone have any good suggestions on a scale that they liked and find reliable? Sounds stupid I know, but want to do this to the "t" looking forward to having the results everyone else is having, you guys are doing wonderful.
I ordered from DD.ca on 8/29. I got an e-mail w/tracking # and that it shipped from New Zealand on 9/8. I haven't gotten it yet.
Fortunately, my BIL is an OBGYN (mine in fact) and gave me script so I could start just after my period. When I get my goods from DD.ca, I'll post it. Sorry you have to wait it out.
On a side note...as I said earlier, today is my 1st day of VLCD (day 4 inj.) I just finished my regular workout. 2.25 miles plus 45min weight training. I feel great. No low energy/shakes. Cardio was great. I haven't been hungry, more like empty as some other have said. But have no need to use will power to resist food if that helps define it at all.
Hi.. sorry, long day!
Ok i use formula 1. its about 24 dollars on amazon so if you find a better price on ebay then go for it. Also i think they may carry them at Vitamin Shoppe. It comes in pill form (the powder is formula 2 usually and its disgusting!). I never heard that they stripped your intestines at all, actually it was recommended in the Keven T book. I hope they are safe to use because i take one almost every night. I love them, even my colon hydrotherapist recommends them and sells them in her office.
today was my first injection and i did it in my shoulder. Im using smaller needles so i wanted to make sure the hcg got right into the muscle so i figured the shoulder was the best bet. Plus it didnt hurt at all!
Hello! Yes today was my first day of gorging and it was delightful! I had a huge sandwich with chicken and bacon and melted cheese for lunch, and a giant sushi dinner (yum!) and of course cookies and milk about 10 minutes ago. I enjoyed every minute of it!
I heard the Dr. Natura was great i'll have to try that. I've loved the Dr. Schuze ever since i became extremly constipated about a year ago. I went for colonics ( i read you did enemas) and Yes! those suckers (no pun intended) really work!! i must've dropped at least 5 pounds from the colonics alone. Anyway my colonist recommended the Dr. schulze so i certainly hope they arent harmful.
So tomarrow i will eat lots of pasta i promise.
Hope you lost today..=)
First day of injections and thanks to my daughter, mresearcher, it was o--k-a-y...I think I can do this.
Well, are there any other vegetarians doing this? I was told to substitute low fat cottage cheese for the protein the 1st wk. Wondering if I could use tofu just for a little variety.
Thanks
No delivery yet. I recieved an e-mail too. Mine shipped on 9-12.
My daughter is going to start with me so I may have to wait depending on her monthly friend.
Those of you who still have a period, do you stop hcg injections for the 7 day cycle or just the
actual days you bleed?
well it's moving again. i'm down 1.4lbs this am so that's 5.8lbs since beginning on tues. not bad for 4 days of dieting. it's not exactly what lindaloo experienced but better than KT said at 1lb a day. i'm happy with it i am concerned though that as i get closer to "the visitor" that it will slow down or even worse go up during that time and i'll be sick!!! oh well......i guess that's all part of being a woman! i drank so much water yesterday though i was up 3 times in the night going!
gracie......i'm not skipping the whole 7 days. i don't usually bleed that long anyway. i think i'm going to skip 3 mak because after that there won't be any free hcg floating around in my system and i think i'll start getting really hungry! i'm not really craving anything although i am looking forward to a good steak and some wine when this is over. and mexican food too!!
gg: Thanks girl. I'm looking forward to getting down to the 170's. Good luck to you too.
Also, I was thinking that getting 8 to 9 hours of sleep probably helps. I've heard that it lowers cortisol levels. But it needs to be totally dark. You should even cover the lights on the phone and digital clock. I have trouble getting it totally dark. There's a street light right outside my window and I don't have any blinds for the window yet.
All: Down to 180.5 lbs this morning. Lost 2 1/2 lbs overnight. Don't lack much getting down to the 170's. I'm looking forward to that.
That's great. I'm glad that little bit of candy didn't effect your weight loss. Keep up the good work. Did you drink a lot of water close to bedtime? Try to drink 2 liters up till 2 to 3 hours before bed. That way when you go to bed you can sleep.
weighed in the AM. down a full 3 pnds in 24 hrs! whats even more exciting is that since the first day I measured @ first inject./1st gorge...I am down 2.5" in my waist. I am down 1/2-1/4" in thighs, also. but I expected less there because my waist is where the shelf is.
hunger is fine. I feel a bit hungry this AM but nothing raging. I do have a mild headache but nothing that I need to to an asprin for as Dr. S says thats ok to do.
i know! i didn't suck on that candy for more than a minute or two and it made all the difference. i get really shakey and light headed. i thought i might pass out and i was about an hour or so from home. even though i knew it was the right thing to do i hated doing it! i felt guilty for eating a tiny mint! a week ago i wouldn't have even thought about it. i probably would have had 2!!! but just a bit helped and didn't effect the loss so i'm happy. one thing i want to mention is that the almost 6 lbs that i've lost is remarkable to me because i'm not feeling like i'm starving and my face doesn't look drawn and the weight is noticibly coming from places that i really need to lose the most just as the books said it would. my waist is down 1 1/2 inches!! usually when i diet i lose from my face and neck first (where i don't need to lose at all) then my boobs (which scott insists i don't need to lose at all............they're all the same aren't they!!!). i can actually feel this is taking away fat from much needed places. i'm very happy!
lindaloo.........did you have a problem with celulite in the butt/thigh areas? if you did has that improved after 30 lbs??? that's what i'm hoping that the fat loss will change the consistancy of those areas.
Ub: You're doing great! I keep an apple with me when I'm out all day just in case I get light headed. Not extreme celulite but ya know that crinkly looking fat (maybe that was celulite, not sure) yes I had that and I'm noticing today that, that has defineately imporved!!! I'm 150lbs this morning so that's 30lbs down on day 27!!! Yeaaaaaaa!! I still have the belly fat which is weird to me cause that was never my problem area (before 40) . . . after 40 I have become budda Mama . . . . it freaks me out!! It's defineately gone down but the weight loss is defineately evenly distributed all over. I'm hoping during phase 3, if I do all my cleansing that, that too will disappear (maybe it a candida thing??) The inflated stomach area is why I initally went to the gyno to be checked out . . . that's when I found out I had fibroids and had the uterus removed last year . . . but even after the partial hysto my belly persisted to be large marge!! Everytime I ate anything it would blow up like with gas so I was thinking it was a gluten intolerance . . . I don't know??
M: Don't take my word for it about Dr. Schulze . . . I'm just repeating what a friend told me when I told her I was taking it . . . She said her gastrointerologist told her that . . . but if your Dr. says it's ok then I guess it is . . . I remember there was a specific herb in it that she was leery of. The Dr. Natura Colonix is great! That's great that you're doing it with your mom (Good Luck Mom!!) And yes I lost today . . . 1 lb yesterday and 1lb this morning!! Schwing!!
Scare-D: I read that you should rotate your injection areas.
Congratulations to everyone, I'm proud of you all!!
Lindaloo: great thanks for the info. Im so happy for you you've lost 30 pounds its incredible! Congrats!
All: My injection this morning (in my other shoulder) stung like a B@TCH!!!! It was over a half hour ago and its still hurting. Actually my whole arm is hurting! is this normal? Does this mean i did something wrong?? Please Advise!!!!!
sometimes i get a little stinging. i had good luch with arms too but yesterday i got bleeding when i pulled the needle out. more than i expected. i did asperate before injecting so i don't think i hit a vein but i definately caused some trauma at some point. my arm hurt a little bit all day too. usually there's no bleeding or maybe just a drop but yesterday hurt. how long are your needles? mine are only 1/2" so i don't think i got deep enough to hurt anything.
yea, how was the weigh in?
30 lbs is fantastic!!!! you have to be so happy!!! i'm telling you.........we all need to plan a big party when this is all over (and we can actually eat again) to celebrate!!!
I have the same issues as you do, but I have fibroids, endo, ovarian cysts, IBS, hyperplasya, etc... What I found was eating very 'raw" helps, as many people are allerigic to wheat or gulton, once I stopped eating that (which you already are) the stomach aches and gas improved, in addtion to the increase of water, things definietly took an upswing. I am actually hoping the Hcg may help with some of these issues, as I have never been pregnant, could be a bonus.
Are you rotating your injections, I am goint to follow Dr. S., he states injections in the butt, but even with alternating each check everyother day I would think the area may get sore after a while, you have been doing this for 30 days, what is your advice on that? are you doing the legs and stomach and arms as well, I read that in one of the injection info sheets I printed out, but Dr. S. doesn't recommend that.
Your loss so far is very encouraging, keep up the great work, hoping my Hcg comes this week, that would be wonderful. Want to be part of the pack of everyone else doing such a wonderful job.
Hi everyone: sounds like everybody is doing great!
The wedding was great and everything went perfectly. I ran around with my head cut off getting last minute details handled and the bride looked beautiful. It was really neat to have her get married after all these years. (She and my father divorced 32 years ago- so it's been a long time coming)
Nope.. Unfortunately no hangover.... I drove my husband he was the best man!! I was glad we did the dinner at an Italian restaurant we had probably had 25 baskets of bread for 18 of us!! hahhahaa It didn't stop me from having a bowl of chicken fettuccini with tomatoes.. And a yummy Syrah too...I did consider drinking more red wine when I got home to finish the day off with a bang.... but I went to bed because I was retaining a huge amount of water by the end of the night.
So I only gained about 2.1 pounds on the gorge... As of this AM. I have the first day with my limited diet today. Luckily, I'll be super busy with 3 kid’s soccer games and a birthday party.
Ub/Loo: you'll be glad to hear I didn't take my Ambien too.... : ( hopefully the herbal stuff starts working it's murder not sleeping with all my other stuff....
I'm doing my legs in the sitting position and I rotate which leg for the day. That much pain in the arm maybe you hit a nerve. ? I can't inject my butt as I have too much extra there!!... hahhahhaa
M: Wow, that doesn't sound good . . . I had 2 times where it left a bruze and one time a little blood came out but any pain I might have had never lasted more then a few minutes. You're making me nervous. Try the upper thigh or belly fat next time . . I, like Ub, never have any problem when I inject in the belly.
Scare-D: Yes, I rotate. In the begining I rotated legs, arms and tummy but now I just do both legs and I put Friday's shot in the belly cause I figure it has to last the whole weekend so I know shooting SubQ takes longer to diseminate. I've never been pregnant either and was thinking the same thing . . . I truly believe this whole weight gain has been hormonal and it must be the hcg that's helping now??
Mama: I bet she was the bell of the ball!! How wonderful!! I've given up on love long ago (don't have the strength of heart for it) Good thing I'm a loner!! Are you using the alpha calm for sleeping?
Ub: I know I can't wait to be in the 40's and am really hoping to reach 130 by the end!!! I would love to have an hcg party . . . you're in the middle so maybe Chicago (I know they've got some great blues and jazz clubs.)
i found you on ebay! i have never messaged that way before! anyway, good luck with your first day of the vlcd. it's day 5 for me and i really have to cravings to speak of. that's miraculous too because in about 5-6 days my visitor arrives again!!! hopefully after that event things will start coming off more rapidly.
Hi all, well sounds like everyone is doing great today!!! Yay!! Yesterday seemed like a bummer day for most of us...
Well I am down 1.2 lbs today, yay! man was I bummed yesterday only losing 2/10 of a pound, I almost wanted to cheat! Thank goodness I didn't. So, in 5 days of the VLCD I am down 7.8 lbs, I guess I cant complain.
MRES--you keep saying you're injecting your shoulder...are you actually going INTO your SHOULDER, or your deltoid muscle? Rule of thumb is 3 fingers below the tip of your shoulder. I do get stinging too sometime, and it lasts about that long. I have been injecting into my thighs the way itmama suggested and it seems to be working (but I do use a 1 1/4 inch needle, not the 1/2 inch, now).
Well good luck guys,I am excited for you all....and Linda, your success is an encouragement and keeps me on my toes! Thanks!
that would be a great little trip!!! we should keep that in mind!!! maybe in the spring after we've leveled off (and it's not snowing there anymore!). i'm up for it!
never give up on the love thing! i've been single almost 7 years and used to say the same thing. i really never thought i'd find it again. my ex and i had been together since 5th grade! i'm very strong willed and set in my ways and i still have a hard time sometimes giving in but it's totally worth it. funny thing is i met scott on match.com and we've been together now for about a year and a half and we're getting married soon. so never say never!!!!
Good for you Ub . . . it's been 7 years for me too!! I know it sounds like a long time but I don't really mind . . . my dad had that loner thing going on . . . I guess I take after him . . . as long as I've got the ocean, a surf board and my dad's little old boat, I'm good!!
sounds like you're very happy. that's the most important thing. i really missed having someone special but not everyone feels that way. who knows.......when you've reached all your goals here you may just look at thing a bit differently? i'm sure you'll start noticing people checking you out with your new hot surfer bod!!!
Thanks for all the info everyone, the pain in my arm has subsided alot. Yes about three fingers from the top of my shoulder is where i injected yesterday and today ( diff arms) but today hurt so much more for some reason. Got just a small amount of blood, and the pain has pretty much gona away but man, my arm is still sore. Im scared to inject in my belly, and my thighs are too fat for 1/2 inch needles!
oh well im doing alot better all thanks!
gosh you poor thing...can you see if you can go to a local pharmacy and ask for some 1-1 1/2 inch needles? They can usually give you some. Also, make sure the bevel is facing up (the hole in the needle) when you inject. I dont know if you got your stuff from NHW but when I called Brock the other day concerned about the needle being so small she said they have larger needles if I wanted her to send me some. I didn't need them because I already work in a doctors office, but maybe she can send them to you. You should email/call. Well take care girl!
I've had a headache since yesterday evening. It's not so bad that I feel like I need to take something for it though. When do the headaches go away? Been having lots of cravings too. I can't wait till this is over.
This is day4 of inj. first for VLCD. Cravings are low for me. Don't confuse them w/an empty stomach. More than likely your just not used to having an empty stomach that gowels and such.
As for the headache....I had one during sleep last night. When I got up to pee it wasn't too bad. Bit more intense this AM but by 3pm this afternoon it was unbearable, I started to feel sick to the stomach and tired from it. I ended up taking IB profin. The asprin I had had hydronated oil in it so I went with the latter BC it didn't have anything illegal. I hope I don't see it on the scale in the AM but I couldn't bear it anymore. Hang in there w/the muchies. if your not already, spread your apples, strawberries or melba out. I eat mine at 3pm and then again around 8pm. seems to stave off any hunger and don't forget to drink lots and lots. Your urine output is problably close to 2x what your used to which means the headaches could be from dehydration rather then a side affect of HCG.
I hear ya.... I actually had headaches the first 2 days on the injections but not anymore. I actually have been pretty worried not getting my Ibuprofen daily I have to take it a lot with my CFS and Fibro. I hurt all the time. But I keep using my ice packs for pain and try to keep busy.
I finally seem to not be retaining so much water. My feet were so puffy last night. I have to pee constantly I'm almost afraid to leave the house. I was on the way to my 12 yr old daughters soccer game with several minutes to go before arrival and the four year old is sleeping and I have too pee to bad. I thought I'd have a bladder explosion if I didn't go immediately. THANK GOODNESS for Starbucks on every corner in Seattle!!
So far o.k. with the first day of restriction.... but I'm heading to bed early so the munchies don't come on...my hubby eats tons of junk food (he's got his 20's body still) and I don't want to watch him.
I'm so in on a vacation after this is all over....as long as a SPA service is involved!! My vote is warm weather though.....
that is so funny! i just told scott that when this is over i was going to get a 90min massage with exotic oils!
well i didn't get headaches but i did get sort of grouchy. but i think mid123 is right. it wasn't really hunger but emptiness. both because my tummy was empty and because eating is such a social function. i really missed it. especially things like munching on a handfull of tortilla chips or something like that. i am about to close the door on day 5 of the vlcd and i can honestly say i'm doing fine. not strong cravings what so ever. it will pass gals!! hang in there!!
Ub: Tell Scott your getting at least a couple of those massages....1 after you can have oil again....and another in Mexico it's just your horizon... !
All: now that I think about it, I think my headaches could have easily been from not enough water. I'm drinking like 3 liters now and also having probably another 24 oz of tea. Lindaloo: I love the tea recipe it takes so much better!!! I know I wasn't drinking that much days 1 - 3 ...
Hey guys, I started my injections today and just came up with some questions. I've tried finding the answers by reading through all these posts but I think I'm getting lost in the conversations...it's pretty late. Sorry.
1. The way my IUs of powder came, I have to mix it with solute so that there is 12 doses made after the mix. My needles came and were only .5cc so I just mixed accordingly. My problem is that I just read in the question/answer section of KT's book that it's recommended to use it right after mixed and at most 3 days! Well, I just mixed 12! I put it in the fridge, but now I'm worried. The website I bought it from had said it needed to be refridgerated and was good for much longer than that. Has anyone else refridgerated a mixed batch of solution for this long with success?
2. I am starting at the 10 days before the period mark and so I will have to stop the injections during my period. Has anyone done this and does the weight loss slow down? I'm only trying to lose about 15 so I'm not THAT worried, I just want to know what to expect? Also is it harder to stay with the low calorie diet?
3. I'm injecting it into my stomach with only .5 inch needles. Has anyone had success doing the injections just under the skin?
4. You all are so incredibly encouraging! Thanks and keep up the good work guys!
I finally decided to take some Bayer asprin for my headache. I feel better now. I don't think it effected to scale. I'm down to 178.0 lbs. Not having cravings too much so far, but I just got up though. I do pretty good until I see food commercials on tv. Pizza Hut and manwich commercials make my mouth water. lol
I know those commercials are a b@tch . . . I try not to watch but can't help it . . . the bacon cheese burgers get me everytime!! Eru, I had headaches the first 3 days but then they stopped . . . hope they do for you as well . . . they will!! Good Job!
Good Girl!! You're doin great . . . . still at 150 this morning . . . didn't go on the treadmill yesterday, maybe that's why?? I was looing forward to seeing the 40's oh well there's always tomorrow!!
eru.......DON'T WATCH THOSE!! they pay research people millions to find out how to elicit exactly that response. get up and fill your water bottle or something but don't suffer thru watching those. at least until the cravings stop.
kerroline......you look like you are starting at about the same place in your cycle that i did. i think we do have to stop for the duration of the menses but i was wondering too for you out there that have done it....did you stop for the entire time or just a few days. i wasn't planning to skip more than 3 injections because i am afraid without the free hcg roaming around in me i'll get really really hungry. loo, i know you don't have periods but didn't you say you skipped when you thought you'd be having them? or did you just not lose as rapidly then? i can't remember.
i also do the .5inch needle. i have 1.25inch but they look a little mean. as long as i continue to lose with a subq shot i'm "sticking" with that for now. even when i inject in the leg or arm i'm sure the needle isn't long enough to get into the muscle so most are probably doing subq unless they are using the longer needle. as far as the duration of use.........i think the paperwork from hcgsupply.com (where i got my water, needles, etc) says it will keep the entire cycle if refrigerated. i think you guarantee that you always have a fresh batch if you mix it in smaller doses. i ordered 6 tubes of 1500 so each week i will mix a new batch and i do keep it in the fridge. good luck and welcome aboard!!!
I didn't skip at all cause I called Brock at NHW and she said the only reason that they tell us to skip during that time is because you may bleed a bit more with the hcg in your system and since that wasn't an issue for me . . . . I didn't skip but I did gain 1lb one of those days . . . and that never happened before or after. Oh and you may get a little iritable too. It didn't seem to effect me at all.
Your right. I'm going to leave the room from now on when they start to show ANY commercials. They can be advertising some identity theft thing then before you know it they are shoving pizza in your face.
You're not kidding. It's very hard to resist temptation when they do that. And they are really fast about it too. You can be watching something then all of a sudden WHAM - there's pizza in you face.
UB: Great job, look at you!! See you can't gain weight off others pigging out near you!! hahaha
Loo: You've done so well, the first week you doubled what most people lose. I think it's all going great still!
Eru: When we watch a favorite show we have DVR box from the cable company.... that way you never ever see a commercial let alone juicy burgers or cheesy pizza.
Lucky for me the only food shows I love to watch is Iron Chef and Top Chef ....but they make food I'd never eat. : )~ Great now the family is eating eggs, hashbrowns and toast....I'm hungry now it smells so good.
Have a good day everyone and keep up the good job!!
Hello to all of you. I have been reading this site for 3 days, so many great and positive things beeing said here. I started my hcg 4 days ago following the KT book w/ supplies from GHI. I am 6' 2" 215 lbs. 39 years old and am in pretty good shape except for the big ring of fat right around my middle that no amount of exercise will help. I am weight training a tri/split routine and using the sauna just about every day. This is my second day on the vlcd and I am pretty hungry. I wanted to get on this site for support and help support others. I wish everyone outstanding success.
morning all. 2nd day of VLCD 5th for Inj. I'm down another pound this AM. Headache is over and so is any hunger I had. Still have the empty stomach feeling but not cravings for food. Energy is good and I plan to do my reg. 2.25miles running and weight training again today. My husband has already noticed the reduction in my mid section. The back fat is peeling off. I want to scream I am so happy and I don't even have to starve to do it.
So far stats are....from day 1 of inj/gorge W = 136 now 133, Waist @ belly button 34.5" now 32 3/4", Waist 1" below belly button(which was widest part of back fat) was 36" now 35", Upper thigh was 22" now 19 3/4"!!!! my quad drop 1/4" and bicep 1/4". I didn't expect them to drop a whole lot, not much there to lose.
As you can see, it's really coming off! If I had any doubt before that it would work for me, they have vanished. I can already tell in pants that were tight before I started. Now my mom is starting on Fri.
I'll post again in the AM
Wow.. Everyone is doing so great! Well its my last day of the gorge and I didnt really get to indulge the way i wanted to because of work and other obligations, not to mention my partner in crime (my boyfriend, whom i usually pig out with) is dieting and has incredible will-power! So I'm eager to start losing cause i feel like a bloated fat @ss!
Have a wonderful relaxing sunday all!
Girlee: I really appreciate the suggesstion, i think im gonna stick with the smaller needles though cause those big ones really freak me out. i dont know how you guys do it! Cant wait to hear about your weight loss today, keep us posted! =)
well welcome aboard larry! hopefully you'll find some encouragement here, i know i do. so you're right about the same place as many of us. it is hard the first couple of days. for me it was more missing "eating" more than missing food. what was your loss after a day of the vlcd?
you're doing so great! i have to tell you all though that scott pigged out at the appleseed festival and was 5 lbs lighter today. HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE!!!
It was hard to tell becuse I found my scale is not so great, ( im off to get a new one rt. now ) Acording to the scale I droped from 216 to 213. My stomach already looks flatter.
Fun to follow all the posts...and excited to get started myself. Plus, now that the negative poster is gone, I am more comfortable posting in general. Communication with GHI Medical has been better than I had anticipated, but at this point, I probably won't get the matericals I need to start for about a week. I will let you know, if that is okay, when I get started.
I think it is great that some of you are posting weights and also inches...very encouraging. Tracking inch loss has always been very helpful for me since my body responds so well to exercise, whereas the scale usually lags behind showing great sucess. However, I learned years ago that for every INCH you lose, you can count that as a 1 pound weight loss! So, believe me, tracking inch loss is a great motivator. Even those little 1/4 losses = 1/4 pound loss. (Think of the size of a stick of butter!)
Think of all the places you can measure....Neck, pones, thigh (I have a trick for getting the measuring tape in the exact same spot every time if anyone wants to hear it) knee, calf, ankle, upper chest, chest, ribcage, and arms.
Oh, Mama, you mentioned the tea recipe. Is this something that I could find on this thread or on any of the other threads? I am drinking my green tea as I write.
Take care,
Mary
Continued great sucess and I will be joining you all more regularly soon.
well even if the scales were wrong to begin with they probably would still be good to track loss or gain. i like the digital scales. i did buy a new one too though because my son always complained that my old one weighed lower than it should be(he was always trying to gain i was always trying to lose). even though i think it would track the loss pretty well i wanted to know the REAL number (painful as it was!!!). i got mine online it's called omni by "my weigh". it has the readout that can be placed either on the scale or mounted on the wall in case my eyesight goes. it has the fat calc too but i think those are more based on the ht and wt you more so than an accurate fat reading.
we are doing pretty close aren't we! when is your 'visitor' expected? that would be too strange if that was similar too. i'm due for mine later next week (fri i think) so i expect next week to be a little diff for me. usually want chocolate big time right before. and usually gain about 5lbs too!!! that better not happen or i'll be so ticked!
glad to see you aboard! i am getting a complex! everyone seems to be ok with ghi except me! well in truth they were great until i paid for the bloodwork. then it was next to impossible. still the paperwork (bloodwork and physical) was to them on the 17th of aug and i'm still waiting for someone to tell me when i can order hcg. i did hear that my bloodwork was all good and that someone would call me to order the hcg but i'm still waiting. glad i ordered from another source or i'd still be 7.4lbs heavier today!! good luck though. i hope they come thru for you.
Hi Mary...one is listed above a couple times but I'll give you my version of it too. I changed it slightly and I do about 44 oz of water, 2 Yerba, 3 Wu long, 4 Stevia and 1/2 lemon. I boil the water than add the bags right in the pot. In a pitcher I add couple inches of ice, the lemon and the Stevia. Steep at least 5 minutes pour over the ice. It's not cold at all, more room temp. It's more refreshing some how. It's tasty; I drank all of it by 1PM today!
All: I just received my email today from GHI saying my blood test came back normal as well as my candida yeast test so that's great. Called them, they said I will be contacted within a week by doc to finalize everything and get hcg. Here's hoping time will pass quickly.
I'm 5'6" and 175lbs, I'd love to loose 40lbs and be 135lbs again!! I wonder will I see that number again on the scale. When I finally get my hcg, I'm going to have to stop having the sugar and starches but until then I've been eating normally and taking the detox available through GHI. It's great, it doesn't hurt at all and seems to be gentle but thorough (eliminating a couple sometimes three times a day).
Loo: Do you think it's possible that you've lost all you abnormal fat or is it just a plateau that you have to see your way through? Good luck.......hope the weightloss picks up again soon.
anyone tell me if in phase 3 (3wks no starches/sugar) does that mean we omit fruits due to their sugar content or just added sugars like sugar, cane sugar, fructose and other natural sweetners?
Also, has anyone been using Ivory soap, is that ok. I have an all natural soap that I think is ok but it's really pricey.
All: Well, this is my first day on the diet. Just thought I would take some time to tell you all where I am and what my goal is. I'm 5'5" tall. I started the gorge at 182.5 lbs. This morning I lost a little again instead of gaining. I'm at 183.0 lbs now. I'm hoping to get down to somewhere between 125 and 130. That will probably take two treatments. Good luck to everyone. Don't give up.
Of course now I have to wait because of my monthly friend will be here anyday - :(
Woohooo I get to start soon!
today was a little strange though. i drove to the organic market today as planned but i got really shakey and light headed on the way. i tried to ignore it but was afraid so i pulled over. my hands were shaking like crazy. i have a slight problem with hypoglycemia so i debated over if i should get into the glove box and get out a mint i keep there. after it didn't pass i got one out (one of those red and white mint things) and sucked on it for a couple minutes. didn't finish it but felt guilty! i hope it doesn't effect my scale tomorrow. that's been my only infraction!! after that i felt great. not hungry or shakey at all. hmmmmmmm..........
Anyway good luck girl!!
Linda, when you calculate how much you've lost so far, do you count the weight you started at AFTER the gorge or before? Just curious.
Anyway good luck girl!!
Linda, when you calculate how much you've lost so far, do you count the weight you started at AFTER the gorge or before? Just curious.
Anyway good luck girl!!
Linda, when you calculate how much you've lost so far, do you count the weight you started at AFTER the gorge or before? Just curious.
mama..........at the market today there was a gal there that had my impression of a perfect bod (not that i'm looking....) anyway, now i have the mental pic of where i want to go. now that's motivation!!
I ordered from DD.ca on 8/29. I got an e-mail w/tracking # and that it shipped from New Zealand on 9/8. I haven't gotten it yet.
Fortunately, my BIL is an OBGYN (mine in fact) and gave me script so I could start just after my period. When I get my goods from DD.ca, I'll post it. Sorry you have to wait it out.
On a side note...as I said earlier, today is my 1st day of VLCD (day 4 inj.) I just finished my regular workout. 2.25 miles plus 45min weight training. I feel great. No low energy/shakes. Cardio was great. I haven't been hungry, more like empty as some other have said. But have no need to use will power to resist food if that helps define it at all.
Ok i use formula 1. its about 24 dollars on amazon so if you find a better price on ebay then go for it. Also i think they may carry them at Vitamin Shoppe. It comes in pill form (the powder is formula 2 usually and its disgusting!). I never heard that they stripped your intestines at all, actually it was recommended in the Keven T book. I hope they are safe to use because i take one almost every night. I love them, even my colon hydrotherapist recommends them and sells them in her office.
I heard the Dr. Natura was great i'll have to try that. I've loved the Dr. Schuze ever since i became extremly constipated about a year ago. I went for colonics ( i read you did enemas) and Yes! those suckers (no pun intended) really work!! i must've dropped at least 5 pounds from the colonics alone. Anyway my colonist recommended the Dr. schulze so i certainly hope they arent harmful.
So tomarrow i will eat lots of pasta i promise.
Hope you lost today..=)
Well, are there any other vegetarians doing this? I was told to substitute low fat cottage cheese for the protein the 1st wk. Wondering if I could use tofu just for a little variety.
Thanks
My daughter is going to start with me so I may have to wait depending on her monthly friend.
Those of you who still have a period, do you stop hcg injections for the 7 day cycle or just the
actual days you bleed?
gracie......i'm not skipping the whole 7 days. i don't usually bleed that long anyway. i think i'm going to skip 3 mak because after that there won't be any free hcg floating around in my system and i think i'll start getting really hungry! i'm not really craving anything although i am looking forward to a good steak and some wine when this is over. and mexican food too!!
Also, I was thinking that getting 8 to 9 hours of sleep probably helps. I've heard that it lowers cortisol levels. But it needs to be totally dark. You should even cover the lights on the phone and digital clock. I have trouble getting it totally dark. There's a street light right outside my window and I don't have any blinds for the window yet.
All: Down to 180.5 lbs this morning. Lost 2 1/2 lbs overnight. Don't lack much getting down to the 170's. I'm looking forward to that.
hunger is fine. I feel a bit hungry this AM but nothing raging. I do have a mild headache but nothing that I need to to an asprin for as Dr. S says thats ok to do.
keep ya posted tommorow...
lindaloo.........did you have a problem with celulite in the butt/thigh areas? if you did has that improved after 30 lbs??? that's what i'm hoping that the fat loss will change the consistancy of those areas.
how was the wedding?
M: Don't take my word for it about Dr. Schulze . . . I'm just repeating what a friend told me when I told her I was taking it . . . She said her gastrointerologist told her that . . . but if your Dr. says it's ok then I guess it is . . . I remember there was a specific herb in it that she was leery of. The Dr. Natura Colonix is great! That's great that you're doing it with your mom (Good Luck Mom!!) And yes I lost today . . . 1 lb yesterday and 1lb this morning!! Schwing!!
Scare-D: I read that you should rotate your injection areas.
Congratulations to everyone, I'm proud of you all!!
All: My injection this morning (in my other shoulder) stung like a B@TCH!!!! It was over a half hour ago and its still hurting. Actually my whole arm is hurting! is this normal? Does this mean i did something wrong?? Please Advise!!!!!
yea, how was the weigh in?
30 lbs is fantastic!!!! you have to be so happy!!! i'm telling you.........we all need to plan a big party when this is all over (and we can actually eat again) to celebrate!!!
Are you rotating your injections, I am goint to follow Dr. S., he states injections in the butt, but even with alternating each check everyother day I would think the area may get sore after a while, you have been doing this for 30 days, what is your advice on that? are you doing the legs and stomach and arms as well, I read that in one of the injection info sheets I printed out, but Dr. S. doesn't recommend that.
Your loss so far is very encouraging, keep up the great work, hoping my Hcg comes this week, that would be wonderful. Want to be part of the pack of everyone else doing such a wonderful job.
The wedding was great and everything went perfectly. I ran around with my head cut off getting last minute details handled and the bride looked beautiful. It was really neat to have her get married after all these years. (She and my father divorced 32 years ago- so it's been a long time coming)
Nope.. Unfortunately no hangover.... I drove my husband he was the best man!! I was glad we did the dinner at an Italian restaurant we had probably had 25 baskets of bread for 18 of us!! hahhahaa It didn't stop me from having a bowl of chicken fettuccini with tomatoes.. And a yummy Syrah too...I did consider drinking more red wine when I got home to finish the day off with a bang.... but I went to bed because I was retaining a huge amount of water by the end of the night.
So I only gained about 2.1 pounds on the gorge... As of this AM. I have the first day with my limited diet today. Luckily, I'll be super busy with 3 kid’s soccer games and a birthday party.
Ub/Loo: you'll be glad to hear I didn't take my Ambien too.... : ( hopefully the herbal stuff starts working it's murder not sleeping with all my other stuff....
Scare-D: Yes, I rotate. In the begining I rotated legs, arms and tummy but now I just do both legs and I put Friday's shot in the belly cause I figure it has to last the whole weekend so I know shooting SubQ takes longer to diseminate. I've never been pregnant either and was thinking the same thing . . . I truly believe this whole weight gain has been hormonal and it must be the hcg that's helping now??
Mama: I bet she was the bell of the ball!! How wonderful!! I've given up on love long ago (don't have the strength of heart for it) Good thing I'm a loner!! Are you using the alpha calm for sleeping?
Ub: I know I can't wait to be in the 40's and am really hoping to reach 130 by the end!!! I would love to have an hcg party . . . you're in the middle so maybe Chicago (I know they've got some great blues and jazz clubs.)
Well I am down 1.2 lbs today, yay! man was I bummed yesterday only losing 2/10 of a pound, I almost wanted to cheat! Thank goodness I didn't. So, in 5 days of the VLCD I am down 7.8 lbs, I guess I cant complain.
MRES--you keep saying you're injecting your shoulder...are you actually going INTO your SHOULDER, or your deltoid muscle? Rule of thumb is 3 fingers below the tip of your shoulder. I do get stinging too sometime, and it lasts about that long. I have been injecting into my thighs the way itmama suggested and it seems to be working (but I do use a 1 1/4 inch needle, not the 1/2 inch, now).
Well good luck guys,I am excited for you all....and Linda, your success is an encouragement and keeps me on my toes! Thanks!
never give up on the love thing! i've been single almost 7 years and used to say the same thing. i really never thought i'd find it again. my ex and i had been together since 5th grade! i'm very strong willed and set in my ways and i still have a hard time sometimes giving in but it's totally worth it. funny thing is i met scott on match.com and we've been together now for about a year and a half and we're getting married soon. so never say never!!!!
oh well im doing alot better all thanks!
As for the headache....I had one during sleep last night. When I got up to pee it wasn't too bad. Bit more intense this AM but by 3pm this afternoon it was unbearable, I started to feel sick to the stomach and tired from it. I ended up taking IB profin. The asprin I had had hydronated oil in it so I went with the latter BC it didn't have anything illegal. I hope I don't see it on the scale in the AM but I couldn't bear it anymore. Hang in there w/the muchies. if your not already, spread your apples, strawberries or melba out. I eat mine at 3pm and then again around 8pm. seems to stave off any hunger and don't forget to drink lots and lots. Your urine output is problably close to 2x what your used to which means the headaches could be from dehydration rather then a side affect of HCG.
good luck
I finally seem to not be retaining so much water. My feet were so puffy last night. I have to pee constantly I'm almost afraid to leave the house. I was on the way to my 12 yr old daughters soccer game with several minutes to go before arrival and the four year old is sleeping and I have too pee to bad. I thought I'd have a bladder explosion if I didn't go immediately. THANK GOODNESS for Starbucks on every corner in Seattle!!
So far o.k. with the first day of restriction.... but I'm heading to bed early so the munchies don't come on...my hubby eats tons of junk food (he's got his 20's body still) and I don't want to watch him.
I'm so in on a vacation after this is all over....as long as a SPA service is involved!! My vote is warm weather though.....
well i didn't get headaches but i did get sort of grouchy. but i think mid123 is right. it wasn't really hunger but emptiness. both because my tummy was empty and because eating is such a social function. i really missed it. especially things like munching on a handfull of tortilla chips or something like that. i am about to close the door on day 5 of the vlcd and i can honestly say i'm doing fine. not strong cravings what so ever. it will pass gals!! hang in there!!
All: now that I think about it, I think my headaches could have easily been from not enough water. I'm drinking like 3 liters now and also having probably another 24 oz of tea. Lindaloo: I love the tea recipe it takes so much better!!! I know I wasn't drinking that much days 1 - 3 ...
1. The way my IUs of powder came, I have to mix it with solute so that there is 12 doses made after the mix. My needles came and were only .5cc so I just mixed accordingly. My problem is that I just read in the question/answer section of KT's book that it's recommended to use it right after mixed and at most 3 days! Well, I just mixed 12! I put it in the fridge, but now I'm worried. The website I bought it from had said it needed to be refridgerated and was good for much longer than that. Has anyone else refridgerated a mixed batch of solution for this long with success?
2. I am starting at the 10 days before the period mark and so I will have to stop the injections during my period. Has anyone done this and does the weight loss slow down? I'm only trying to lose about 15 so I'm not THAT worried, I just want to know what to expect? Also is it harder to stay with the low calorie diet?
3. I'm injecting it into my stomach with only .5 inch needles. Has anyone had success doing the injections just under the skin?
4. You all are so incredibly encouraging! Thanks and keep up the good work guys!
kerroline......you look like you are starting at about the same place in your cycle that i did. i think we do have to stop for the duration of the menses but i was wondering too for you out there that have done it....did you stop for the entire time or just a few days. i wasn't planning to skip more than 3 injections because i am afraid without the free hcg roaming around in me i'll get really really hungry. loo, i know you don't have periods but didn't you say you skipped when you thought you'd be having them? or did you just not lose as rapidly then? i can't remember.
i also do the .5inch needle. i have 1.25inch but they look a little mean. as long as i continue to lose with a subq shot i'm "sticking" with that for now. even when i inject in the leg or arm i'm sure the needle isn't long enough to get into the muscle so most are probably doing subq unless they are using the longer needle. as far as the duration of use.........i think the paperwork from hcgsupply.com (where i got my water, needles, etc) says it will keep the entire cycle if refrigerated. i think you guarantee that you always have a fresh batch if you mix it in smaller doses. i ordered 6 tubes of 1500 so each week i will mix a new batch and i do keep it in the fridge. good luck and welcome aboard!!!
Loo: You've done so well, the first week you doubled what most people lose. I think it's all going great still!
Eru: When we watch a favorite show we have DVR box from the cable company.... that way you never ever see a commercial let alone juicy burgers or cheesy pizza.
Lucky for me the only food shows I love to watch is Iron Chef and Top Chef ....but they make food I'd never eat. : )~ Great now the family is eating eggs, hashbrowns and toast....I'm hungry now it smells so good.
Have a good day everyone and keep up the good job!!
So far stats are....from day 1 of inj/gorge W = 136 now 133, Waist @ belly button 34.5" now 32 3/4", Waist 1" below belly button(which was widest part of back fat) was 36" now 35", Upper thigh was 22" now 19 3/4"!!!! my quad drop 1/4" and bicep 1/4". I didn't expect them to drop a whole lot, not much there to lose.
As you can see, it's really coming off! If I had any doubt before that it would work for me, they have vanished. I can already tell in pants that were tight before I started. Now my mom is starting on Fri.
I'll post again in the AM
Have a wonderful relaxing sunday all!
Girlee: I really appreciate the suggesstion, i think im gonna stick with the smaller needles though cause those big ones really freak me out. i dont know how you guys do it! Cant wait to hear about your weight loss today, keep us posted! =)
Love reading all your posts, guys! Feels like my own little "other family"....(remember I live with 5 GUYS!!)
Have a great day!!
I think it is great that some of you are posting weights and also inches...very encouraging. Tracking inch loss has always been very helpful for me since my body responds so well to exercise, whereas the scale usually lags behind showing great sucess. However, I learned years ago that for every INCH you lose, you can count that as a 1 pound weight loss! So, believe me, tracking inch loss is a great motivator. Even those little 1/4 losses = 1/4 pound loss. (Think of the size of a stick of butter!)
Think of all the places you can measure....Neck, pones, thigh (I have a trick for getting the measuring tape in the exact same spot every time if anyone wants to hear it) knee, calf, ankle, upper chest, chest, ribcage, and arms.
Oh, Mama, you mentioned the tea recipe. Is this something that I could find on this thread or on any of the other threads? I am drinking my green tea as I write.
Take care,
Mary
Continued great sucess and I will be joining you all more regularly soon.