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Vitamin D deficience, and hand pain
Hi to everyone, I am a chef and I got a pain in my hands like about two months ago, I tought is result of a hard work, tendinitis and then I tought was arthritis, reumatism or any similar condition, I recently done the complete blood test (14/04/10) and has been found some important results (anything else is normal)
ESR =13
chloride =108
fasting tryglicerides = 2.9
fasting cholesterol = 6.6
LDL cholesterol = 3.9
C' reactive protein = 5.4
25OH Vitamin D = 10
I cannot sleep more than 5 hours a day, feeling tired and with pain in the muscles of mylegs when I got up the stairs... I also have a pain in the right hand side( just during the night time), could be liver? ...lung... nothing detected in blood test!
Recommendations from my doctor: lots of fish (poched) with (raw) olive oil as dressing on it.
I cutted on faty food long ago (like 5 months ago), I am trying to eat salads and greens more fruit and I am cycling as sport... but the time is going really slow, and I am still feeling lot of pain specially in my right hand, nothing looks to be working, any clue anyone?
Thanks a lot in advance
This discussion is related to vitamin d hand pain.
ESR =13
chloride =108
fasting tryglicerides = 2.9
fasting cholesterol = 6.6
LDL cholesterol = 3.9
C' reactive protein = 5.4
25OH Vitamin D = 10
I cannot sleep more than 5 hours a day, feeling tired and with pain in the muscles of mylegs when I got up the stairs... I also have a pain in the right hand side( just during the night time), could be liver? ...lung... nothing detected in blood test!
Recommendations from my doctor: lots of fish (poched) with (raw) olive oil as dressing on it.
I cutted on faty food long ago (like 5 months ago), I am trying to eat salads and greens more fruit and I am cycling as sport... but the time is going really slow, and I am still feeling lot of pain specially in my right hand, nothing looks to be working, any clue anyone?
Thanks a lot in advance
This discussion is related to vitamin d hand pain.
Everything that has been said is all good information. Vitamin D deficiency is something I contend with, too. Mine started out as 8, which is about as low as it can go before one is hospitalized for the vitamin D deficiency itself.
Megadoses in the case of severe deficiency is often prescribed by conventional doctors. It is only vitamin D2, but it is helpful in giving that added boost to the overall numbers. While I was getting the megadoses, I was also taking 2,000 iu vitamin D3 everyday, which is recommended by both the natural and the conventional doctors. I'm no longer taking the prescription, but I am still taking the equivalent of megadose in the natural D3 form. By itself, the 2,000 iu/day is not enough for me. It might be fine for someone else, but it is usually insufficient for those of us with chronic health conditions. I found out the my 6,000 iu/day is still definitely not too much, because the last test was still under 50. It was still barely within the low normal range, which is all that your conventional doctors are concerned about. This means that 6,000 iu is not too much for me to take, and taking a bit more will not be too much for my body. It is all year for me, since I am very prone to getting sunburns, too.
Carliita and others: One thing that Dr Mercola (mercola.com) suggested that turned out to be a very good suggestion was to sign up for the newsletters from the Vitamin D Council. In one of the newsletters there was a story about some little kids who were little African American kids. Now, this is important, because it is important for those with darker skin to get longer exposure to sun, as long as they're not prone to sunburning, in order to get sufficient natural vitamin D processing in the sun when compared to someone with lighter skin. I didn't understand the entire explanation, but in simple terms, the darker the skin is the more sun exposure (up to six times as much) that is needed for the minimum amount of time in the sun for the skin to be able to produce sufficient vitamin D. If one has an autoimmune condition called Lupus or is still too prone to sunburns, though, supplementing of large amounts of vitamin D--according to individual needs--is CRITICAL to one's immune system support.
Okay, now on to the rest of the story: The parents of these children did not know about vitamin D and sun exposure, and neither did any of their own doctors as vitamin D fell out of favor for some reason with conventional medicine as if it weren't important for most of my own lifetime. The children started to develop bone fractures and the parents of these children went through the heartache of being accused of child abuse, when this wasn't the case at all. I can only imagine how devastating that would be to be accused of this and not know why the children are so fragile and coming up with broken bones when they hadn't even laid a hand on their children.
The story goes on to explain that finally a smart doctor tested them for vitamin D deficiency and it was so bad that these children had Rickets. They were hospitalized and given IV Vitamin D. Their vitamin D levels were tested the next day and they still tested very low. By now the doctors were baffled, because they knew they had given these children massive amounts of vitamin D. One of the doctors got a brainstorm and he decided there was nothing to lose by infusing MAGNESIUM into their IV's. This treatment worked. He didn't mention how much magnesium he used, so I must assume that it was just the normal amount or RDA of magnesium that he had given the children. Doing this raised their blood levels of vitamin D, using what was already given to them just prior to giving the children the magnesium. After that, the children recovered from their Rickets and were allowed to return to their own parents and their parents were exonerated of all charges of child abuse.
I know it's a long post and a long story, but I did that on purpose to explain where I got the information and how I know that we must take MAGNESIUM in order to get the full benefit of the amounts of vitamin D we've been taking. It's very important to everyone. I had to mention also that this is how and where I know that darker skinned people simply NEED more sun exposure than what the average person in so many places is getting these days. Dr. Mercola explains that even people living in sub-tropical places are not getting enough sun exposure because of the type of work so many people do--like working all day long in an office building and not even getting out in the sun, especially during the most important hours of the day for getting such sun exposure. The times of the day that conventional doctors say to avoid the sun is actually the time of the day that people should be getting out. But, most people are stuck in the office during those hours.
So, actually, most people are vitamin D deficient. Most don't know they're deficient. Those of us with autoimmune and chronic illnesses have a much more difficult time of gaining and maintaining our vitamin D levels, because of the nature of these illnesses causes vitamin D dysregulation in our bodies. My conventional doctor, though, recognizes that I'll always have to fight with it and will always have to supplement my vitamin D, and always in the dosages I've been taking.
Megadoses in the case of severe deficiency is often prescribed by conventional doctors. It is only vitamin D2, but it is helpful in giving that added boost to the overall numbers. While I was getting the megadoses, I was also taking 2,000 iu vitamin D3 everyday, which is recommended by both the natural and the conventional doctors. I'm no longer taking the prescription, but I am still taking the equivalent of megadose in the natural D3 form. By itself, the 2,000 iu/day is not enough for me. It might be fine for someone else, but it is usually insufficient for those of us with chronic health conditions. I found out the my 6,000 iu/day is still definitely not too much, because the last test was still under 50. It was still barely within the low normal range, which is all that your conventional doctors are concerned about. This means that 6,000 iu is not too much for me to take, and taking a bit more will not be too much for my body. It is all year for me, since I am very prone to getting sunburns, too.
Carliita and others: One thing that Dr Mercola (mercola.com) suggested that turned out to be a very good suggestion was to sign up for the newsletters from the Vitamin D Council. In one of the newsletters there was a story about some little kids who were little African American kids. Now, this is important, because it is important for those with darker skin to get longer exposure to sun, as long as they're not prone to sunburning, in order to get sufficient natural vitamin D processing in the sun when compared to someone with lighter skin. I didn't understand the entire explanation, but in simple terms, the darker the skin is the more sun exposure (up to six times as much) that is needed for the minimum amount of time in the sun for the skin to be able to produce sufficient vitamin D. If one has an autoimmune condition called Lupus or is still too prone to sunburns, though, supplementing of large amounts of vitamin D--according to individual needs--is CRITICAL to one's immune system support.
Okay, now on to the rest of the story: The parents of these children did not know about vitamin D and sun exposure, and neither did any of their own doctors as vitamin D fell out of favor for some reason with conventional medicine as if it weren't important for most of my own lifetime. The children started to develop bone fractures and the parents of these children went through the heartache of being accused of child abuse, when this wasn't the case at all. I can only imagine how devastating that would be to be accused of this and not know why the children are so fragile and coming up with broken bones when they hadn't even laid a hand on their children.
The story goes on to explain that finally a smart doctor tested them for vitamin D deficiency and it was so bad that these children had Rickets. They were hospitalized and given IV Vitamin D. Their vitamin D levels were tested the next day and they still tested very low. By now the doctors were baffled, because they knew they had given these children massive amounts of vitamin D. One of the doctors got a brainstorm and he decided there was nothing to lose by infusing MAGNESIUM into their IV's. This treatment worked. He didn't mention how much magnesium he used, so I must assume that it was just the normal amount or RDA of magnesium that he had given the children. Doing this raised their blood levels of vitamin D, using what was already given to them just prior to giving the children the magnesium. After that, the children recovered from their Rickets and were allowed to return to their own parents and their parents were exonerated of all charges of child abuse.
I know it's a long post and a long story, but I did that on purpose to explain where I got the information and how I know that we must take MAGNESIUM in order to get the full benefit of the amounts of vitamin D we've been taking. It's very important to everyone. I had to mention also that this is how and where I know that darker skinned people simply NEED more sun exposure than what the average person in so many places is getting these days. Dr. Mercola explains that even people living in sub-tropical places are not getting enough sun exposure because of the type of work so many people do--like working all day long in an office building and not even getting out in the sun, especially during the most important hours of the day for getting such sun exposure. The times of the day that conventional doctors say to avoid the sun is actually the time of the day that people should be getting out. But, most people are stuck in the office during those hours.
So, actually, most people are vitamin D deficient. Most don't know they're deficient. Those of us with autoimmune and chronic illnesses have a much more difficult time of gaining and maintaining our vitamin D levels, because of the nature of these illnesses causes vitamin D dysregulation in our bodies. My conventional doctor, though, recognizes that I'll always have to fight with it and will always have to supplement my vitamin D, and always in the dosages I've been taking.
Thanks a lot to all of you for your response, when I went to the doctor for my hands pain, he thought was tendinitis and that I just need injection, he referred me to an orthopaedic surgeon who after examinated my hands ordered for me all this complete blood test. He said that if is tendinitis or Carpal Tunnel he will realise with examination... (I am not so sure) The ESR shown a inflammation somewhere in my body, can that be in my hands? because if is pain in the bones due to the vitamin D deficience can not be inflammation or yes?...
I didn’t get any treatment for my vitamin D deficiency from my doctor, but I bought a Pure Cod Liver Oil from the counter that it has 5µg per capsule and I also bought a vitamin D in spray which content 25µg per spray...
I was checking some information over the internet and I read that the body doesn’t absorb vitamin D when your BMI is over 30, mine is 30.7 I am working on my weight and cholesterol as well with diet and some sport but not much to do with my hands pain, that hurts even when I walk, feels like a pressure going down the hands and they going to exploit in any moment...
Having a conversation with the pharmacist she suggests that for that level of vitamin D deficiency I probably need injection rather than just supplements...
All this is causing me lots of confusion and desperation...
I didn’t get any treatment for my vitamin D deficiency from my doctor, but I bought a Pure Cod Liver Oil from the counter that it has 5µg per capsule and I also bought a vitamin D in spray which content 25µg per spray...
I was checking some information over the internet and I read that the body doesn’t absorb vitamin D when your BMI is over 30, mine is 30.7 I am working on my weight and cholesterol as well with diet and some sport but not much to do with my hands pain, that hurts even when I walk, feels like a pressure going down the hands and they going to exploit in any moment...
Having a conversation with the pharmacist she suggests that for that level of vitamin D deficiency I probably need injection rather than just supplements...
All this is causing me lots of confusion and desperation...
Low Vitamin D levels can cause numerous problems in your body. Are you currently being treated for your deficiency? I really hope so.. low Vit D levels should always be treated and something to worry about since it causes so many problems, even the ones you mentioned. As for the hand it sounds like you probably have Carpal Tunnel, it happens when you repetitively do the same thing over and over and over. They treated me in the past for this with a brace to immobilize it and some ibuprofen, not sure if they gave me pain meds, but if it's bothering you a lot, never hurts to ask for something. Good luck to you, let me know how things go! sincerely, Elizabeth
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Yes, you have Vit D deficiency and this can cause both localized and generalized bone pains. You will need some supplementation for this. Only exposure to sunlight will not help. It is difficult to comment beyond this at this stage. Please let me know if there is any thing else and do keep me posted. Take care!
Welcome to the MedHelp forum!
Yes, you have Vit D deficiency and this can cause both localized and generalized bone pains. You will need some supplementation for this. Only exposure to sunlight will not help. It is difficult to comment beyond this at this stage. Please let me know if there is any thing else and do keep me posted. Take care!
Your Vitamin D is very low. My son's was below 10. Has your doctor started you on a vitamin D supplement? My son has a lot going on, but a week after starting vitamin D supplement somethings cleared up. He no longer has insomnia, which he had been dealing with for over a year. His other issues became less symptomatic.
Vitamin D is very important for a healthy nervous system. If your doctor didn't put you on a supplement, definitely inquire about it.
Vitamin D is very important for a healthy nervous system. If your doctor didn't put you on a supplement, definitely inquire about it.
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