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Empty gestational sac at 5wks?

by peX2, Jun 29, 2006 12:00AM
Hi. I'm new here. I am hoping someone could help me.



Brief summary:

LMP is May 19th

June 16th HCG is 11 (inconclusive)

June 23 HCG is 990

June 26 HCG is 3800

U/S on June 27 shows "EMPTY GESTATIONAL SAC".



The perinatologist said that it could be too early. However, the technician said that is most likely an "unviable" pregnancy.



My questions are:

At this point, what should they be seeing?

At this point, do my HCGs look about right?

We go back on July 18th for a followup U/S, what should they see then?



I have two healthy children and this one was unplanned, but still wanted and loved . . . thanks in advance.

Member Comments (43)

by bwengel, Jun 29, 2006 12:00AM
The same thing happened to me and a week later.....little pole and heartbeat, so you never know...unfortunately, mine ended in m/c but not for that reason. Hopefully everything will be fine for you....a couple of days can make a big difference with what shows up on the u/s. Good luck and hugs to you ;-)

by AnnieBrooke, Jun 29, 2006 12:00AM
It could very well be too early, especially if you ovulated a little later in your cycle and/or the embryo implanted a little late.  There is a ton of variability at this early of a date.  Good luck!

by greenpixie, Jun 29, 2006 12:00AM
I had a U/S at 5 weeks b/c of some bleeding.  They saw a gestational sac and yolk sac, which they said was about all you could expect to see that early.  I would not stress over it yet.  It's way to early to tell anything.

by ima1, Jun 29, 2006 12:00AM
The tech does not know what they are talking about.  At 5w1d all we saw was a yolk sac, and then at 7w5d I went back and there was the fetus with heart beat.  I am 9w now.  I wouldnt worry about it.  You have no ay of knowing when the egg implanted, so you have no way of knowing exactly how far along you are.  At this early stage,  two days makes a BIG difference.  When you go back in two weeks and everything is fine, you should complain about the tech.  They arent supposed to say ANYTHING re the pg, for hte exact reason that they do not have the necessary knowledge.  If you would go in a ten weeks and there would be nothing, that would be worth mentioning, maybe.  At five weeks, no way.  Good luck, Sticky Babay Dust your way, and I wish you a great 8 months ahead!!

by pearl451, Jun 29, 2006 12:00AM
I was told by my Dr that 5 weeks is early to see anything. There are a lot of factors that could effect what the tech saw, and she should not have said anything to you. Hope all works out for you!

by stormy1373, Jun 29, 2006 12:00AM
I have read about the very same thing and in a few weeks another u/s was completely normal...I think it is too early to tell, and remember, techs are not Dr's!.....Good luck to you!!! I hope to hear good news in another few weeks!

by AnnieBrooke, Jun 29, 2006 12:00AM
Women on this forum complain that the ultrasound technician didn't tell them anything.  This is why they don't let the techs tell you anything. :)

by mommie2, Jun 29, 2006 12:00AM
Hi I am 10 weeks preg. and I had my first visit with my OB when I was just 4 1/2 weeks. She wanted to do an US because I had a mc in Macrh 06 and I am high risk being that I had my dd at 23 weeks. She told me that we needed to wait until 6 weeks for the US because you can not see much before that and she did not want me to worry for nothing. I went in at 6 weeks 3 days and I saw a baby and a HB. The tech told me that at 5 weeks you can not see much just a sac. Please don't jump to conclusions, 5 weeks is early. Keep positive and wait to see what happens in 2 weeks.

by jackiemoo, Jun 29, 2006 12:00AM
It happened to me too. I measured small and there was a gest sac and yolk, but no baby. 6 weeks later, there was my baby, strong, moving and 11 weeks along. It is way too early.. wait another three weeks. GOOD LUCK!!!

by sameerah73, Jun 30, 2006 12:00AM
Yep I'm in the same boat. I went in for an U/S on the 27th and was told that i was measuring far too small for 6wks and that i had to be reffered to a specialist (STRESS!). I went to the specialist and he said that i was measuring 5 weeks and that it was too early to see anything (RELIEF!). So now i have another u/s scheduled for the 4th of July when i should be 6 weeks and they hope to see the yolk sac and a fetal pole and if they dont see a fetal pole, i go in 2 weeks later providing everything is fine - to see a heartbeat. Moral of the story - listen to these women, I would have had permanently curled hair if their words of encouragement, experience and support didn't come my way. Good luck!

by uri'smom, Jun 30, 2006 12:00AM
I have the same exact story...I went for my u/s on June 28th and only a gestational sac and a yolk sac were seen by transvaginal, I thought I was 6 weeks according to LMP,but could be that I ovulated later I don't know ???

My hcg levels are as follows:

June 16th: 70

June 21st: 672

June 26th: 4093

June 28th: 7909

Numbers are rising but my doc doesn't think it's necessary to do any more hcg levels and just wants me to have an u/s again in a week,I still don't have the date but I'm scared to have it done too early again and not see anything,but then again I want desperately to see a HB soon next time I go. Let's just pray that we are too early on and next time we get our u/s we see a strong HB and deliver a healthy baby in 8 months!!!

by Brookesru, Jun 30, 2006 12:00AM
Hi there,



I have a very similar problem to you all.  I'm 6 and a half weeks pregnant and I had an ultrasound yesterday to monitor an existing medical condition.  The technician found no sign of a baby, but a sac that she estimated was only about 4 weeks and 2 days.  I have to go back in two weeks for another ultrasound to see if they can find the baby.  I'm so scared!  I have had no bleeding or spotting and the only pregnancy symptoms I have are breast tenderness (not severe) and needing to urinate frequently.  I know my LMP was May 14 (and I'm very regular), and I had been taking ovulation tests to predict when I was ovulating.  I'm pretty sure I was ovulating around May 28.  I really don't want to lose this baby! Any advice?

by Brookesru, Jun 30, 2006 12:00AM
I forgot to ask this in my last post, but how do you all know what your HcG levels are?  I thought the only way to determine that was a blood test at the drs. office.  If there is a way, please tell me.  I want to do whatever I can!

by Val70, Jun 30, 2006 12:00AM
I had the same things told to me at 6 weeks- almost 7, and I was depressed for a week. They really shouldn't say anything. Two weeks later, there he/she was. The sac, the pole and a heartbeat.

by greenpixie, Jun 30, 2006 12:00AM
To: Brookesru
Yes, the hCG test is a blood test.  It is most often done in early pregnancy to confirm the pregnancy.  A lot of women have the levels checked if they are at risk of a m/c.  Not all DRs check the levels routinely, but some will.  Again, this is most useful in early pregnacny b/c as you get closer to your 2nd trimester they level off andwill not increase as quickly.

by Brookesru, Jun 30, 2006 12:00AM
Thanks for the info.  I called my doctor requesting that she monitor my HcG levels.  She said that they know that something is there, hopefully a baby, but they don't trust the HcG levels.  She said I just have to wait until the u/s in two weeks.  I'm just praying that the technician that performed my first u/s made a huge mistake.  Torture!!

by uri'smom, Jul 01, 2006 12:00AM
I too only have breast soreness and some urinary frequency and no m/s, I haven't had any spotting, bleeding or cramping... maybe just a tiny twinge here and there...The most common cause of abnormal u/s is wrong dates, meaning that most likely we are too early, also imaging studies are very operator dependant, meaning that someone with less experience or not so perfect technique may not be able to findan embryo this early, plus ovulation could have ocurred later or maybe implantation took a litle longer... I'm praying for all of us. My u/s is July 5th...I'm so afraid to not see anything again although it still could be too early, I'm thinking about cancelling that appt. and rescheduling it for at least Friday the 7th or the next week, what doyou think? Should I do it on the 5th and deal with not seeing anything and go back to the waiting game or should I wait another week?

by Brookesru, Jul 03, 2006 12:00AM
Thanks to everyone who has provided me with advice over the past few days.  Unfortunately I lost the baby on Saturday, depsite all my hopes and prayers for a healthy pregnancy.    Something like this m/c really makes you appreciate the things in life that you sometimes take for granted.  I already have one perfect little boy who I see in a whole new light now-he really is my little miracle!  Hopefully it won't be too long before I can give him a healthy little brother or sister, so they can teach him how to share!!  Good luck to all of you in your pregnancies