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clenbuterol and topamax

by SlimQuick2006, Oct 20, 2006 12:00AM
Can you take clenbuterol and topamax together?  any side effects I should be worried about?  I have been on Topamax for migrains, but 3 days ago stared takeing clen for weight loss
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by jelovem, Oct 22, 2006 12:00AM
What is Clenbuterol?  I've never heard of it.

Thanks

by jenipher, Oct 23, 2006 12:00AM
Well as we all know Clenbutrol is a pill Vets use for horses  Also weightlifters use for muscle gain.  It is considered a type of steroid, with a phetamine aftereffect.  My advice to you is not to take Clenbutrol with anything.  I would recommend it only by itself because it is a pill with side effects and is not considered "legal".  It is the "hollywood" weight loss drug.  It will help you loose LOTS of weight in little time.  

Miracle with lots of problems.  I don't recommend takeing this longer than the time frame (I believe 8 weeks?)

What dosage are you taking?  I am looking into it for weight loss myself if you have anymore info on it, i.e. where do you get it?  

by jenipher, Oct 23, 2006 12:00AM
I just reread my comment, in NO way am I trying to bash you taking Clenbutrol, I too want to take it. I just want you to be safe if you are going to take it, and I was explainign to the previous comment what it was. Sorry about that.  I do though want more info from you as to how you are doing on it, i.e. weight loss, how much, etc.....

by AutumnBorn, Oct 28, 2006 12:00AM
I'm taking clen.  Bought it online.  It does appear to be working, though it's too soon to tell.  I understand it must be taken exactly as recommended.  So far, I'm pleased, though it's only been a few days.

by Baby Phat, Oct 30, 2006 12:00AM
What dosage should I get?

by jenipher, Oct 31, 2006 12:00AM
Where online did you get the clen, what dosage, and what form?  I am extremely interested but can't seem to find a legit compnay to buy from.

thx

by vstarjewel, Nov 04, 2006 12:00AM
To: jenipher
Drop me an email at ***@****, I think I can give you some info.



V.

by gotroom, Nov 05, 2006 12:00AM
I have just purchased clenbuterol but am not too sure about how to take it effectively.  Can anyone share their method/dosage used to take this pill for weight loss?

by Anneeee, Nov 06, 2006 12:00AM
Found this article on FeminineMuscle and thought i would pass it along.. Hope it helps..



On the Uses and Cycling of T3 and Clen



Women often come to this site asking about how to use Clenbuterol and/or T3 to achieve weight loss. For the purposes of this article I'm going to assume that anyone considering using these compounds has done the usual research and know at least the very basics about these drugs.



Before any woman (or man for that matter) considers using these substances they should take inventory and evaluate precisely why they want to take them and what they expect to get from using these drugs.



When someone considers using Clen/T3 their primary goal is weight loss. You need to ask yourself exactly how much weight to you need to loose? What are your expectations?



If you need to take off 10 lbs. or more and expect to keep it off you may want to reconsider using Clen/T3. Clenbuterol is known to be very hard on cardiac tissue and prolonged use (which is what you're considering if you have 10 + lbs. to loose) can actually thicken the walls of your heart. The use of T3 may cause your natural thyroid production to shut down, making weight gain very likely after use of it is ceased. Both drugs are short term solutions to a long term problem, both of which carry significant health risks. If you have more than 10 pounds to loose, forget about Clen/T3, re-evaluate your diet and training regimen because diet and training are the way to good health and long lasting weight loss.



On the other hand, if you are a competitor getting ready for a show careful use of these compounds for short periods of time may help you reach your goal. Clen/T3 is best suited for use when you are already near your goal and just need a little push to get you the rest of they way there. However, T3 is still not best suited for these purposes as it does not discriminate between fat and muscle, it will use both equally. For this reason, clen is preferable, however some people still prefer a standard ECA stack.



Safe(r) and Effective Short Term Use of Clen/T3



Clen



First and foremost we need to be familiar with some of Clenbuterols side effects. Possible side effects of Clenbuterol include restlessness, palpitations, tremor (involuntary trembling of fingers), headache, increased perspiration, insomnia, possible muscle spasms, increased blood pressure, and nausea. Note that these side effects are of a temporary nature and usually subside after 8-10 days, despite continuation of the product. The most significant side effects are muscle cramps, nervousness, headaches, and increased blood pressure. Muscle cramps can be avoided by drinking 1.5-2 gallons of water, taking 3-5 grams of Taurine per day (over the counter supp), and supplementing with potassium tablets at 200-400mg a day taken before bed on an empty stomach. Headaches can easily be avoided with Tylenol Extra Strength taken at the first signs of a headache.





Clenbuterol usually comes in 20mcg tabs or in liquid form. When Clen is used the body down regulates beta-2 receptors making the drug ineffective as a fat loss agent after 18 days, for this reason it is usually cycled 2 weeks on followed by 2 weeks off. The first cycle of Clen should be used to asses your tolerance of the drug. Start with one tab in the am, if side effects occur, continue to take 1 tab a day until they dissipate, then up the dose by tab in the afternoon (before 4 pm), continue in this manor up to 4 tabs per day, cycle back down to one tab per day, then take two weeks off.



Example of a Clenbuterol Cycle for a Woman

Week 1: 1,1,2,2,3,3,4

Week 2: 4,4,3,3,2,2,1

Weeks 3-4: ECA stack



If your Clenbuterol is in liquid form, first find out the concetration per ml. Suppose that the liquid is 100mcg/ml, then 1/5 of a ml is 20 mcg = 1 20mcg tab. A syring can be used for accurate dosing. Draw a couple of cc's of liquid into the syring, then two lines = 2 IUs = 1/5 cc = 20 mcg. Squirt the liquid into some juice and drink.







by Anneeee, Nov 06, 2006 12:00AM
From the same article, here is the info on T3.   I have been on 12 mgs of T3 sense 6/1

Decided last week to cycle off of it.  Worried about complete thyroid shut down.



Considering a cycle of Clen while on the T3 break.  A little worried about the side affects though..

anyway, here is the info on T3:





"Cytomel, aka T3



First off, I would like to say that because of the extremely catabolic properties of T3 one should never consider using it with out the additional use of some AAS. ( i bolded and sized that for a reason.. thats one of the biggest mistakes ladies do while running t3. It doesn't know the different between fat and muscle so it will eat anything and everything..)



Recently the conventional wisdom about dosing schedules of T3 have changed. This is not uncommon in the world of bodybuilding as it is an ever evolving beast based on the experiences of real people. This said, one of the current recommendations for T3 dosing is a very low dose for an extended period of time (as long as 8-16 weeks) is thought to not interfere with the thyroid's natural production of T3. For a women, this dose would be as little as 6.25 mcg (1/4 tab) to 12.5 mcg (1/2 tab) per day. This low dose will not produce dramatic fat loss results but will give an edge without the worry of major side effects. One should be warned that this is only a theory. To be sure one should have their thyriod checked regularly. The other conventional wisdom about T3 dosing is a short ramp up, followed by a short period at maximum dose, followed by a long ramp down to help ease the rebound that many people report. The maximum amount of time one should stay on a cycle of T3 like this is 6 weeks. A good rule of thumb is 5% of total time

ramping up, 35 % a maximum dose, and 60% ramping down.



Example of a 6 Week T3 Cycle for a Woman, max dose 50 mcg T3

Day 1: 1/4 tab

Day 2: 1/2 tab

Day 3: 1 tab

Day 4: 1.5 tabs

Days 5-19: 2 tabs

Days 19-24: 1.5 tabs

Days 25-30: 1 tab

Days 31-37: 1/2 tab

Days 38-42: 1/4 tab"







by aThEnA-B, Nov 08, 2006 12:00AM
For those who have purchased Clenbuterol (slimquick 2006, autumnborn, gotroom)



Where did you buy it from? I would like to buy some but I can't find a seller online that's based in the US. Would you mind sharing the website you got them from? Thank you.

by Anneeee, Nov 09, 2006 12:00AM
There are no sellers on line based in the US.