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500 Cal diet w/HCG verses 500 Cal diet without

by Looking4Hcg, Jun 15, 2007 12:00AM
Since I've been on both diets:  500 cal without HCG and 500 cal with HGC, thought I'd relate my experiences for those Naysayers who keep saying 'Anyone can lose on a 500 calorie diet, HCG is useless'.  No one disagrees that you can lose on a 500 cal diet with ow without HCG, but you have to look at the whole picture. How do you feel on the diet?  Can you stick with the diet?  Can you maintain your weight afterwards?

3 months ago, before I heard about HCG I attempted a 500 Calorie diet to reduce the affects of RA(Rhuematoid Arthritis). Actually I wanted to FAST because having been under a 14 day medically supervised fast (water only) 3 years ago, I knew what miraculous results I got. I was close to wheelchair bound when I checked in, but came out 24 days later with no Arthritis symptoms at all (and I lost 16 lbs).  I couldn't Fast this time because I couldn't take off work, so I opted to do a 500 Calorie diet so I could still go to work.

500 Cal diet, NO HCG:  I originally intended to do this diet for 14+ days, however I was so miserable I didn't last but 7 days even though I was highly motivated. I was having another severe episode from my RA and needed relief.  Losing weight was only a secondary reason for the diet.  I was hungry all the time and it was extremely difficult to stay on the diet.  After work I would go home and crash on the sofa from exhaustion. I started cheating a little on the 5th day and by the 7th day I made the decision I could not do this diet any longer!  I only lost 3.3 lbs during that time.  My food composition was very similar to what I'm eating now, but I had more veggies and fruits to choose from.  I gained those 3.3 lbs back plus 2.5 more after I came off the diet.

500 Cal diet with HCG/Simeon Plan.  This is my 7th day on the HCG/Simeon diet so I figured it would be a good time to compare them (since I made it 1 week on the non-HCG plan).  I have felt very well the entire 7 days, no hunger pangs until the end of the day when I took no shot (yesterday). I am not miserable like I was on the diet w/out HCG.  I have lost 5 lbs (net), even with the 2 loading days, and I'm pretty excited about how this is going.  I haven't had any inclination to stop, whereas on the non-HCG diet I couldn't stand it any longer by the 7th day. I do have some loss of energy, but not as bad as when I was on the non-hcg plan.

Summary: In my opinion the 500 Cal diet with HCG has so many benefits over doing the diet without HCG! (feeling of well-being, no hunger pangs, not miserable).  In fact, I got some added benefits on the HCG diet. The swelling in my ankles, knees, and elbows went down drastically by the 3rd day on HCG. It didn't go down at all on the non-HCG diet and it took 10 days fasting before the swelling went down 3 yrs ago.  Another benefit I experienced on HCG: I quit coughing.  After months and months of 'fuzzy irriated throat' and coughing, It just stopped after the 2nd day on HCG shots!
  

Member Comments (3)

by fightu35, Jun 15, 2007 12:00AM
To: 500 cals
the reason why you dont 'feel' as hungry with 500 cals & HCG is because your body fat  stores are FULL and your bodys glycogen levels are full....thats what the over feed is before you start..as your body adjusts..you will be back to normal...like me or hate me..why you people wont listen is odd..i showed you 100% what HCG is and does..and it does not help with hunger nor weight loss..
FACTS

by Looking4Hcg, Jun 15, 2007 12:00AM
To: Fight U
I believe you are wrong!  I had a problem eating on the Load Days - didn't really 'load up' that much.  In addition, the one day I did not take the HCG shot, my 'Off' day, I started to get hungry toward late afternoon.
  
Guess the next 2 weeks will tell the story - whether I get hungry or not..  

by fightu35, Jun 15, 2007 12:00AM
To: LOOKING
for you that might be the case..keep us posted..and good luck

by Aruba417, Jun 15, 2007 12:00AM
The reason your 500 calorie-a-day without HCG was unsuccessful, was probably because your body needs more calories than that to sustain itself. The body probably went into starvation mode and started storing the fat. I don't know what the HCG does to counter-act that starvation mode and hunger feelings, but I have a feeling that's probably why you didn't see any success without it. You were litterally starving yourself!

by Looking4Hcg, Jun 15, 2007 12:00AM
To: Aruba417
Don't think it works that way. When you are on a 500  Calorie diet, your body is not storing anything - it's using all your 500 calories taken in plus going after more fuel from your fat cells that were created when you over ate. That's how you lose, the fat cells get emptied out and used for fuel.

I spent 24 days at a Residential, medically supervised fasting center 3 years ago.  I fasted on water only for 14 days, while 2 others fasted for 40 days.  While you are there, you rest mostly, but watch videos and attend live lectures 2-3 times a day.  I learned a lot about how the body works when fasting or on a VLCD (very low Calorie Diet).  The center I'm referring to only takes patients with Medical conditions to correct. I was defintely one of those, severe case of RA (Rhuematoid Arthritis), but I also lost 16 lbs.  Lost 19 lbs while fasting but gained 3 back during the re-feeding process (something they require before releasing you).

AS long as you have 'extra fat cells', you are not 'starving'. The body gets the fuel it needs from your stored fat.  You might be interested to know that there is a clinic in Australia that fasts obese people for over 100 days, and they do fine.  There is a point, when you have no extra fat cells, that it becomes dangerous to Fast or be on a VLCD. The body still tries to attain more fuel by going after your structured fat needed by your body, then going after your organs.
  
One more interesting tidbit before I close:  By the 5th day of Fasting, your body no longer 'physically craves food'.  Fasting was actually easier than that 7 day 500 calorie diet I tried without HCG, where I was hungry all the time. That was the worst experience I've had trying to diet. The diet with HCG is a breeze.  


  

by fightu35, Jun 15, 2007 12:00AM
To: 99
fat cells cant be lost...burned..or removed..(with out liposuction) ..fat cells only shrink..and always hold the will to go right back to there original size..and you have fat cells for life..and when they spill over and make new fat cells..you have them for life..in scientific terms..the only true way to shrink a fat cells is starving it..is this healthy no..im makeing a medical point..HCG wont work..B-12 wont work..phent wont work..and drugs that try to tell your brain your not hungry will not work..

by Aruba417, Jun 18, 2007 12:00AM
To: Looking4Hcg
Wow, that is some interesting info. I never knew that about fasting. However, I have heard/read from many different sources about the "starvation" mode the body goes into...so I'm still not quite sure about that being untrue. Maybe it depends on the person's body size? For example, if someone only needs to lose about 50 pounds...compared to someone who needs to lose 150 pounds...?

Anyways, good luck on the weight-loss!

by fightu35, Jun 20, 2007 12:00AM
To: truth between the 2 .....
this is the real truth between the 2 diets..

WITH 500 CALS AND HCG
injecting uriine proved not 100% safe..can cause birft defects and never proven to do anything to fat cells..(most girls gain weight while pregant ,and get ever lose it.lol) and infant requires 1,200 calories a day..you want to eat 500..hmm
*all weight would come back if any lost..the 2nd you stop..


800-1,5000 calories with out HCG
real weight loss..no pills...no powders...no URINE and no side affects,no books..no sales pictches from criminals...NO TRICKS more food..and all types all forms with in common sense.. now tell me..which is better ?

by kauaidolphin1, Aug 04, 2007 11:33AM
To: Looking4Hcg
I tried the diet