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About my weight plan.

by emerio, Aug 23, 2006 12:00AM
Im 22 year's old. Im a big guy 6'4 prolly around the 3 maybe 400 pund mark. I have been big for awhile. I recently started doing rutine excerise at night and early am. I walk around and try to futher myself daily. With me i take water. And i do streches half way in between my walk's mostly my legs because i tend to spazz up by my back. I been doing walking for almost 4 days now. And i eat low fat pretzels, sun maid raisesn and drink apple juice. Today i had chicken, but it wasn't greased, it was baked. There was no bredding just meat. I also drink 2% low fat milk and honey nut cheerios.



I do sit up's even when im walking i take a break to do them, i also can do a esitmated 4 to 5 push up's depending on how worn my body is from the walking.



Im curious as to am i doing ok and will i see results soon?



I know this isn't likey yet but if i keep up with the routine walking will i lose this fat. I want to lose my fat, and i keep trying to push myself to walk further and further. I try not to stop till A. i become sweaty. or B. Till it hurts to walk.



Will i see reuslts soon? please let me know. Thank you!
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by star queen, Aug 23, 2006 12:00AM
AT your current weight  it is always best to begin a weight management program with your doctor.  Make sure you are in good physical state to begin.  The doc can recommend a diet/exercise plan that is good for you based on your current state of health.  Generally, to maintain a weight of around 400 pounds, a person needs to eat appx. 5000 calories each day.  If you continue exercising and reducing your calories you will lose weight fairly soon. Weight loss fluxuates, so don't think you will lose weight every day or every week, or in the same amounts each weight drop. Don't reduce your calories too much at first or your body will think you are starving and you won't lose weight.  Begin by determining the calories you would normally eat each day.  Let's say it is 5000 calories.  Reduce your food intake about 1500 calories each day.  You will lose weight for a while.  When you stop losing, reduce your intake another 1500 calories.  Do this until you are eating 1500-2000 calories each day.  It is good that you are beginning your exercises slowly with walking and stretching.  When you are doing that without problems, increase the amount of exercise you are doing.  You could also do some weight lifting to tone your muscles.  You can begin by lifting a couple of cans of food, or bottles of water to do some upper body exercises.  Your diet should include fresh dark green veggies, fruit, and some lean protein.  Stay away from sugary drinks like cool aide, soda (even diet ones), and watch your intake of "diet" foods that say they have no sugar.  They are still loaded with empty calories.  Make sure you work with your doctor and follow the plan he/she recommends.  good luck

by bobthetrainer, Aug 24, 2006 12:00AM
do yourself a favor and make an apt with a Registered Dietitian.  They can work with you on an individualized meal plan/goals that can not only get you started, but can also help tweak your diet as your weight loss progresses.  It's worth the $100-150.



by star queen, Aug 25, 2006 12:00AM
Dietitions are not worth that kind of money.  If you wish to see someone who knows what they are talking about, see a nutritionist. You can go to the local Community hospital and they have free classes on nutrition based on you as an individual. good luck

by bobthetrainer, Aug 28, 2006 12:00AM
To: Starqueen
"Dietitions are not worth that kind of money. If you wish to see someone who knows what they are talking about, see a nutritionist. You can go to the local Community hospital and they have free classes on nutrition based on you as an individual. good luck"



Starqueen, Registered Dietitians ARE nutritionists.  In a handful of states, licensure does not exist for dietitians/nutritionists so ANYONE can call themselves a nutritionist in that particular state.  So you saying, "go see a nutritionist instead of a dietitian" is not good advice.  In the states that don't require licensure, a garbageman could call him/herself a "nutritionist".  As a side note, if you go to a hospital, I can guarantee you that the "nutritionist" working there is a Registered Dietitian.  Hospitals do not hire "nutritionist" that are not RD's.



A friendly tip:  Do your homework before you blindly post

by star queen, Aug 29, 2006 12:00AM
To: Bob the trainer
Temper, temper.  In my state these two jobs are separately licensed jobs.  The only thing Dietitians do is work on menus in cafeterias and work in hospital kitchens.  At any rate, why should anyone pay for a service they can get for free?  As far as your "advice", I will tell you what; (since you like to know where information comes from) I took some of your replys to some friends of mine to read.  One is a physiologist, one is a kinesiologist, and one is the chair of the Health Sciences Division at the local university and still teaches post graduate nutrition studies. All three are PhDs and all teach at the State University.  They enjoyed reading your replys and concur...you need to get new material. You are always putting your "degrees" out there to give yourself credibility because your advice is so bad. The two text books you are always quoting are old and out of date, probably left over from school many years ago. The information is old and most of it no longer used.  You have evidently not kept up on what is going on in the "real world".  You need to read some nutrition journals to get some "catch up", get some continued education, new textbooks to quote from, and geez get some anger management.  You remind me of Donald Duck when he isn't getting his way.

by bobthetrainer, Aug 30, 2006 12:00AM
I can't believe I'm wasting my time with this but maybe this post will help other people be wary of diet/exercise advice they receive from some people on this site.



Firstly, I'm not angry-I'm just correcting you when you post incorrect information (which is quite often).  You are the one that gets defensive, it seems, because you are upset that I call you out on things you are uninformed about.



For example, you saying "the only thing Dietitians do is work on menus in cafeterias and work in hospital kitchens" couldn't be further from the truth.  I believe what you are referring to are "diet technicians".  The positions are COMPLETELY different.  And by the way, I am a dietitian and I work in an outpatient setting for a major teaching hospital-so spare me your comments about continuing education and research as it is my job to head various research protocols and keep up to date on the latest nutrition news.  



I'll spare everyone else the verbage but go to this website to learn more about licensure/certification/registration of dietetic professionals and maybe it will clear things up for you:



http://www.cdrnet.org/certifications/licensure/index.htm



I don't know whom you are consulting with but if your physiologist/kinesiologist/chair friends claim that the 3 texts that I mentioned in past posts (Krause's Food, Nutrition, and Diet Therapy, Gropper’s Advanced Nutrition and Human Metabolism, and ACSM's Guidelines for Exercise Testing and Prescription) are dated or not relevant, that is truly laughable.  I just checked with 3 of my dietetic interns who graduated from Penn State, Univ of Florida, and Cornell (3 of the top 10 universities for nutrition) and they ALL said that they were required to use Krause for their upper level nutrition classes.  They just graduated last year so I'd hardly call that reference "dated".  If ANYONE if the field of exercise/kinesiology actually disputes the ACSM reference as "old" or "out of date", I truly feel sorry for their clients/students.



Starqueen, I really have nothing against you except for the fact that you give out poor diet/exercise advice 90% of the time, and I feel that it's irresponsible.  And since you post a response to virtually everyone who asks a question, that is a large volume of poor information floating around out there.  The scary thing is that some people might mistakenly listen to you because you come across confident in your answers but you actually have no clue what you are talking about the majority of the time.  Like I said when I first started posting here-I don't reveal my educational background/credentials to make myself feel better about myself and toot my own horn.  I do it because many people in the diet/exercise forums give out lousy, unfounded advice and I feel it's my responsibility to see to it that people that are looking for legitimate help get the help they deserve from someone who is educated, licensed, certified, and registered.  You are the reason why there is licensure in nutrition, and hopefully, the remaining states that don't have licensure will have it soon because it prevents quackary and people, like yourself, from giving out bad nutrition advice.



Unfortunately, I know that this post will not prevent you from making numerous other posts, giving out bad nutrition advice to others, but maybe if someone is reading this post, it will make them think twice before taking your advice.

by star queen, Aug 30, 2006 12:00AM
To: Bob the trainer
Me thinks you protest too much.  All this from a fellow who thinks an Internist can treat Ortho problems.  Aww well. Time to move on.

by bobthetrainer, Aug 30, 2006 12:00AM
With regard to the ortho/internist situation-most Americans who have health insurance have an HMO and this requires them to see their internist/family practice doc FIRST in order to get referred to a specialist (like an orthopaedist) if it is out of the primary's scope of practice.  



Now you are just grasping at straws.

by who_dis, Sep 05, 2006 12:00AM
I rule Bob the winner of this one.

by AMA17, Oct 25, 2006 12:00AM
To: who_dis
I concur -- Bob wins

by thinking more, Oct 26, 2006 12:00AM
But what about Emerio?

I agree with bob and star that you (Emerio) need to be working with a qualified health professional. If you're on a tight budget, by all means look for a free service, if you can pay, you might want to consider a naturalpath (not sure what the qualification is in the USA for this group, but my mother has been going to one or many years (heart disease) with good results).

Shop around and find someone who listens to you and who you can work with. You're in this for the long haul...



Good luck to you
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