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emetophobia ?
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emetophobia ?

by KenBC, Jul 30, 2005 12:00AM
Hello,



We have a 16 year old daughter who has seen many physicians,

psychologists and psychiatrists over the years. We can't seem to pinpoint the

problem. There are some days we think she is suffering from something in

the abdomen, then there are other days we think she is suffering from

something in the head (something like emetophobia). But she always

complains of chronic nausea. Even though she does eat, we can't get her to

eat a balanced diet.



She had blood tests where the only parameter that was abnormal was total

bilirubin was 2.2 mg/dL (the correct range should be 0.2 thru 1.3

mg/dL) otherwise all tests negative.



Ultrasound results of the abdomen are also negative (there's no

abnormality seen in the liver, portal vein, gallbladder, bile duct,

pancreas, spleen, kidneys and no gallstones or ascites).



She was treated for depression with Zoloft (50 mg) for 5 months then

with Paxil (25 mg) for 3 years under the care of a psychiatrist.  Her

greatest fear is either vomiting or seeing someone else vomiting. The

paxil did help, but since she was (gradually) taken off of it, her

condition got worse. We are reluctant to put her back on psychtropics

like paxil because of the (now) known suicides related to the "black box"

drugs.



Her phobia (and/or nausea / stomach ache) is now so great that she can't

leave the house.. even to see a doctor!



How do we break out of the endless loop?

by Roger Gould, M.D., Aug 02, 2005 12:00AM
You mentioned medications, but have you tried psychotherapy. That is what is called for, and especially if she won't leave the house, you will have to act fast before not leaving the house becomes an even bigger problem than it already is.  She needs someone who understands eating disorders and phobias.. Don't rely on medications for this...its insight into her developmental stuckedness that she needs to get moving again.
Member Comments (11)

by KittyMeghanLeah2, Jul 31, 2005 12:00AM
Is she depressed?

by KenBC, Jul 31, 2005 12:00AM
Yes, she was diagnosed with depression.

by KittyMeghanLeah2, Aug 02, 2005 12:00AM
Sounds like it's part of her depression or the other way around.  I'm not sure which came first her anxious behavior or if her depression caused the anxiety/phobias.  It can work either way, usually medication does help; however, sometimes it can increase other symtoms that are unpleasant and increase anxiety.  Usually, antidepresants will make a person very "nervous" or have "extra energy."  I've found that to be the case with Prozac when I was a teenager.  I had to get off that to stop the anxiety.  However, if she's depressed I'm not sure if it's from her fears or if the depression caused her to have fears.  Hope she sees someone soon.  I think it helps a lot if she is able to communicate her true fears and know she will not be rejected or shunned.  I know that you're her mom and you would never do that, but remembering myself as a teenager, my greatest fear was not being able to be honest with my parents because I felt they would stop loving me or be so mad at me. There might be other things that she has kept inside and cannot express it to anyone and that could keep her in her cycle of phobias/depression.  It's not anyone's fault, just it would be good to have her know that she can share her feelings in a safe environment without fears of being rejected.  Hope she starts to improve.  Again, I'm not a doctor and think she does need to see one, but also know that she'll be accepted and loved by you no matter what she says.

by KittyMeghanLeah2, Aug 02, 2005 12:00AM
I notice you tried to rule out factors that were physical things.  Such as going to physicians when she experiences something unusual.  Yes, that's good and responsible; however, sometimes it's a coping factor for depression such as diverting attention to something else and manifesting it into something huge when it is just a growling stomach.  I'm not surprised psychiatrists have not helped her with anything except medication.  I think if she saw a psychologist to talk more about what is inside her mind and heart she will recover in a healthier way.  I see Paxil worked, I do understand your fears of suicide risks and they are very VALID, I had that impulse when I was on Prozac and fortunately woke up (meaning I got out of my ?trance?) before jumping off a bridge because it was shaking so badly from cars driving on it (I felt very puzzled as to why I was about to jump, and was like what am I doing? needless to say I quit the medication and when I got home from that experience I felt unsafe alone so I locked myself in the bathroom til my parents got home).  So, I am thinking you can ask for other options like valium would help w/ her anxiety.  And it's probably safer than paxil.  Just a thought.  Some people say Depression is anger turned inwards...  I think sometimes it is a lot of things bottled up and kept inside.  Or, it can come from fears that are overwhelming life.  So that's why I was saying it could have been anxiety first or the depression first.  Either way, I do hope she gets help soon.  I would avoid anti-depressants/anti-psychotic meds and/or especially Klonopin because I'm addicted to Klonopin and have been for 10 years.  I've been able to get off lithium, valium easier than Klonopin.  I'm not saying valium is not addictive, it is but I believe it is safer than Klonopin because Klonopin will cause seizures if stopped abruptly along with a lot of unpleasant side effects.  Valium, can be stopped safely.  Ok, hope this helped.. I don't know where the forum's MD (medical Doctor) is, usually he/she shud answer your primary question..

by KittyMeghanLeah2, Aug 02, 2005 12:00AM
oh boy, I notice she won't go anywhere.  Usually last resort is psychiatric hospital which I wud hope she doesn't have to do.  Maybe you have to consider the pros/cons associated w/ paxil.  If she was ok for 3 yrs on it why would she all of the sudden do something out of the ordinary?  Maybe the risk is worth taking paxil? You have to think about pros/cons.  Just monitor her closely when she's on Paxil.  Did she "not want to get off Paxil?"  My guess is she did not want to get off it.

by spencer123, Aug 07, 2005 12:00AM
I personally think the best thing to do in your situation is to help comfort her and to brush it off as a benign problem that she is making a big deal. My reasoning for this is, because I am 15 years old and i am a male (very close in age) and I have been diagnosed with depression and anxiety disorders. What makes things worse is the feeling that my problem is a major problem. When my parents will not stop talking about it, when i am constantly being bugged to see doctors is when i get most depressed. You say she believes she has stomach problems. If she is constantly thinking and dwelling on the idea that she has something serious wrong with her, her brain will start to believe that there is, falling her into possibly deeper depression and future disorders. I think that this might be a mix of a phobia along with obsessive-compulsive disorder. Remember, it could always be worse. I am 15 and have been to the ER several times with heart problems and i have a phobia of the beating of the heart ( when i think about it, it beats faster, and so on). The only thing that makes me feel better is to watch other people, read other things, focus on schoolwork, sports, anything but the thought of my medical condition, and it works better than any medication. HOPE THIS HELPS! :D



-Spencer

by planetmars, Aug 11, 2005 12:00AM
WOW...I never seen a post about emetophobia....I am one to the EXTREME!!!!  



I am 37 years old and the last time I vomited was when I was about 6 or 7...I don't remember having a tramatic experience with it, it was just a flu or something and I can remeber a total of three times prior and including that one (two were in a car).



Since then, slowly over the years, the fear has grown.  It controls every aspect of anxiety in my life.  I still function more or less normally, but I do take xanax every day for 12 years (.25 a day, and .5 or 1mg on cerain occasions, which would be instances when I am in some of the following situations).



Let me tell you how this snowballs for someone who is emetophobic.  You freak out when you hear someone has a flu, you avoid them like the plague...you wash your hands with anti-bacterial wash like crazy...you do so much investing on how you catch stomach flu's of food poisining, knowing it has to be ingested...so you avoid eating out at restaurants and when you do you like to make sure they are wearing gloves and you see them prepare the food (not that will alway's matter).

You have down to a tee when a vomit scend is about to happen on TV...like a scene while people are drinking excessivly, or something might grosse them out), so you have your face covered to avoid the scene ahead of time.



You panick when a car in front of you opens their door at a stop light (they might be getting sick), you are afraid to ever get any surgery because the anestesia will make you sick and God help you if you ever have Cancer