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bad smell from nose - help me please

by umm_, May 28, 2007 12:00AM
Hi,
  I not sure what it is I have, but I know I have it, don't know how to solve it, hopefully some solution will arrive soon.

  When every I inhale air through me nose, my upper throat dries...I can feel the air drying my throat.  Is this normal?

  One side of my nose is always congested, no matter what I do, it is freeing up.  
I don't see any other symptoms. Also CT scan showed that I am normal.  But the bad smell is killing me.

I believe I have a bad smell coming out of my nose, because I see a lot of people, covering their nose once I walk by or stay in a room.  

Very hard, please let me know if anybody have this symptoms...how you solved it.

by National Jewish, Jun 05, 2007 12:00AM
From your description, the most likely diagnosis is atrophic rhinitis.  It is characterized by progressive nasal mucosal atrophy, nasal crusting, a bad odor and nasal congestion.  Normally, the nose warms and moisturizes the air that passes through it.  With this condition neither of these functions occurs and inhaled dry air remains dry, just as you have experienced it.  The cause of this condition is unknown, but, in some instances, treatment can reduce the symptoms.  One approach is surgical to replace the mucus membrane and/or reduce the cavitary size of the nose.

You should seek consultation at a medical institution, which has had extensive experience in treating this condition.  One such institution is the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota.

Successful treatment of this condition could change your life.
Member Comments (9)

by Depleted Hope, Jun 06, 2007 12:00AM
I have the same problem.  I'm in highschool and it's almost been a year since I had it.  It's RUINING my life.  I went to see an ENT after months of being on antibiotics, decongestants, and nasal sprays that didn't work.  I recently had endoscopic turbinate surgery for my inflamed something, I can breathe much better now but the smell is still there.  Does anyone know if Therabreath Sinus Drops work?  Please e-mail me at ***@**** if you got cured of this or have found a cure.  I'M DESPERATE.  HELP ME. =(

by Valdez, Jun 07, 2007 12:00AM
Hi,
I have had the same problem also for two years. I have been to many doctors but they seen to think that I am crazy.  So, I decided to try things out for myself. I got a sinus rinse kit from the local pharmacy. You can also get these at Wal Mart pharmacy's. Also, I noticed that if i ate foods with sugar or milk products these would make the odor flare up. So I try to avoid these types of foods. But when I dont avoid them I smell poop all the time and smell like it. When you use the sinus rinse kit be sure to use sterile water. You can buy some or boil your own at home. Also I take some chlorophll tablets daily.  And when you brush your teeth try to brush back as far as possible.  I even take a clean wash cloth and wet it with peroxide (not the entire towel just the part you are going to use) and after that I then  use mouth wash on the towel and I wash the back of my tongue and throat area as far as I can reach with my finger. I also clean my entire mouth with the towel. Afterwards rinse with peroxide and mouth wash.  hope this helps.

by Depleted Hope, Jun 07, 2007 12:00AM
To: Valdez
Does those things eliminate the smell?  I smell like poop, something burning, and other stuffs.  I stink up the whole room and everyone is coughing and stuff.  I want something that will help me eliminate it.  Thanks for your suggestion though.  

by um_, Jun 08, 2007 12:00AM
To: Valdez, Depleted Hope
The whole smell thing started for me when tried to clean back of the throat.  One afternoon, I decided to put my index finger and thumb way back into the mouth and clean.  From then on, I been experiencing the bad smell through nose.  Actually when I clean my nose, it smells bad.  I also heard, (people talk beind me) that bad breath smell from nose.  I been to doctors and ENTs and dentists.  I even removed my 4 wisdom tooth.  They all think I have something inside me making me think that.  I also stink up the room, don't know how to solve it.  Hopefully Valdez, solution will work.

Also do you smell poop or somebody mentioned it to you. Also does the crust produced from the nose smells like poo?  By the way how did the smell problem started for you guys?

do you guys experience the dryness in the throat when you guys in heal air?

When you turn on AC/heater in side car and focus it straight to your face, and take a long trip, do you usually get cold like instantly affected by
bronchitis or some sort of cold?

by the way I am same person as umm_, I forgot my password.

Thank you for keeping in touch.  Let us try to solve this problem together.


by Depleted Hope, Jun 08, 2007 12:00AM
To: umm_ & Valdez
My first recollection of it was when people started saying it was stink.  People around me were saying it stunk and at first I thought it was my breath.  A week later, it still was going on so I tried to solve it by using mouthwash.  The problem is that I used an excessive amount of mouthwash only to find out later it makes the smell worse.  Now, not only people two to three feet away can smell it, now the smell exponentially multiplied and I stink up the whole room which is embarrassing.  People far away is coughing and touching their nose.  At first I could kind of smell it myself but not anymore.  Everywhere I go, I hear people commenting it smells like ****, someone stinks, smells like something burning etc.  I hear it everyday even at school, students saying it and adults.  The students didn't surprise me but when I hear adults say it, It brings me down even more.  I didn't realize how rude and inconsiderate people can be.  My life is now ruined.  I turned into a hermit and I will have to find a job soon which is going to be hell for me.  My parents thinks it's a joke and they are somehow immune to the bad smell.

Keep me updated, thanks.

by Valdez, Jun 12, 2007 12:00AM
Hi everyone,
I went to a party over the weekend and I had some alcoholic beverages and the odor started coming back while I was at the party. But after I got home later and cleaned my nose and mouth it was not so bad. I am beggining to think that it has something to do with what I eat and drink. I am not for sure but I used to think it was sinus but it is not that. The sinus rinse really helps me and when I run out of those little packs of salt which comes in the kit. I use regular table salt (make sure it is not iodized or it may or may not burn your nose or irritate it , it is to strong for me ) about a pinch or two to 8 ounces of water three times a day. I was talking to someone in GNC and they said that you can add a drop of essential oil to the rinse just dont add more than that. So I got some peppermint oil. I put 1 drop in 8 ounces of water and it was strong to me so I made some( I used 2 drops but you could try less first)  up with a gallon of  water and 2 tablespoons salt and it was nice. I even used the peppermint oil ( one drop) on a wet towel to clean my tongue and throat  after I use peroxide to help kill the germs and it really helped me some but I have to maintain good hygiene and use the nasal rinse at least twice a day if i can three and cleanse my mouth.  I read somewhere online where you can use eucalyptus oil in the rinse but it has to be very diluted. I have not tried this yet so I dont know. Oh when you do the nasal rinse be sure that you let it run down into the throat while rinsing out the nasal area this is important, the kit will explain how to do this when you purchase one.

by raredisease, Jun 17, 2007 12:00AM
Lol. I have this disease for more than 40 years. I thought that it was a "gipsy curse" or something similar because I didn't know that many others have it.

In my case, the foul smell has been coming in in certain years with periods when I didn't smell too bad. In these short periods of relief of bad smelling I had the chance to find girfriends and socialize for a while.

One day I read an article in the Washington Post in 1999. The title was "Clearing the Air About a Rare Disease".

In the article is mentioned that "researches from around the world gathered at the National Institute of Health for two days with McNeil and other patients". It was the first conference about rare diseases, including "trimethylaminura" (fish malodor syndrome).

This kind of disease which cause bad odor for sure affect the person and people around, so, it says that in 1997 scientists identified a gene that marks the disease, proving it is a hereditary condition. Nevertheless, it was presented as well in 1999 that such diseases can be caused by damage to the liver.

Bad news: as far as 1999, there is no cure.

However, in the conference it was shown that this kind of diesase can be limited to about 75% of patients who try a specialized diet.

Then no surgery is necessary, neither antibiotics and similar methods which were found as causing no cure and neither a relief.

The article gives lots of failures in different kinds of surgeries to eliminate the bad odor in patients from removal of teeth to removing of sweat glands and more. Neither antidepression drugs worked to solve at least in part the bad odor symptoms.

What the article suggests is that the knowlegde of the existence of this kind of disease must be exposed to the general public, and I agree with this because I am a clean person but the rest of people think that I never brush my teeth or take a shower.

A rough estrimate of 1 percent of the world population suffering this disorder implies lots of people, and the article includes examples of how many of the people who suffer of this condition opt for early retirements, jobs where they are practically working without the contact with other people, etc.

Well, as some of the posters here have found out already, changing their diets might help in part to relief partially from bad odors. Unfortunately, the article mentioned that in US not many doctors are aware of this disease, so doctors cannot make referrals to research and found out what kind of diet is the best in each case, I guess in US doctors mostly prefer to use drugs in patients.

I have the copy of the article but I don't know how legal is to transcript it here. If someone can "pay" to copy it and post it here will be great for you and I as well. The Washington Post article was published  on Sunday, April 4, 1999, Page CO1. Its author is Avram Goldstein, a Washington Post Writer.

The title of the article is "Clearing the Air About a Rare Disease. Conference Examines Malodor Syndrome.

Let me tell you why thgis article was very useful for me in several cases. Most of the people are not interested at all about our condition as long we stay away from them, but I had to visit a therapist for a while for bak pain. I took the copy of the article and I gave it to the therapist to let him know that I am a clean person but my bad odor is caused by a disease. He understood.

I guess that your teachers and supervisors might understand better if they know about your condition. Maybe the chances to find love increases as well. In my case, I got married and I have children. Like a poster above says that it appears that his parents "don't feel his bad odor", somehow some people get accostumed to it and tolerate you more. But remember, they do feel your bad odor but the foul smell is somehow lesser for them.

I had so many projects which became dreams alone because this disease, however, I'm glad that the disease have been at least recognized and this means that someone cares. I'll hope that in the future a cure is found for it.