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Fear of ALS
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Fear of ALS

by nd10, Dec 13, 2006 12:00AM
I am a 26 yr old female.  About 13 mos ago I began experiencing fascilitations all over my body.  I went to a nero who said it was BFS.  I also have an itchy crawly feeling on skin at times.  I had a normal MRI and all blood work up normal.  I then had a horrible case of sciiatica and an EMG showed instabililty of the sciatic nerve.  I was sent to PT and it really helped.  The pain has subsided.



My current fear is ALS due to a small dent in my quad muscle about two inches long that runs horizontally (left leg).  It is more evident when my muscle is flexed.  It looks lioke two buldges with a dent running through it - very slight and would be hard for someone to see.  I was able to find others on the internet w/ same dent and noone knows what it is.  My fear is atrophy.  I haave very muscular legs from cheerleading and gymnastics and I work out a lot.  I twitch a lot in the morning when I stretch after sleeping - it sets off firewoors in my tummy.  I have never had a bit of weakness and nero exams were normal as well as follow up EMG 6 mos ago.  Does the dent sound like muscle wating that is eenin ALS.  Both quads are still the same size.  I am terrified b/c my left foot arch has been slightly twitchin fot the last 9 days - every five misn or so in one sopt.  Seems to subside at times.  



Pleae let me know if you think ALS should be a concern or if you feel the dent in my quad and foee twitch are unrealted.  I really do nto want to make another very expensive trip to the nero unless you feel it is necessaey.

by CCF-Neuro-M.D.-SH, Jan 07, 2007 12:00AM
First of all, keep in mind that I am unable to diagnose you because I am unable to examine you, this forum is for educational purposes.

   From the symptoms and story that you describe, I do not think you need to be worried about ALS (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis-also called Motor neuron disease).  Fasiculations are small twitches in muscles that do not lead to movements across joints.  Fasiculations can be found in normal people, after exercise, with metabolic disturbances, after some viral infections and in some neuromuscular conditions (including ALS).  Thus, fasicualtions are non-specific and are only "concerning" if additional features of neuromuscular disease are present (weakness or atrophy being the most important).  The "dent" in your quad that is best seen with flexion, sounds like muscle definition and does not sound like atrophy.  If you are concerned about atrophy, you can measure your thighs at their maximum diameter and compare the two sides (should be close) and measure them over time.  With 2 normal EMGs, no weakness or atrophy I would agree that it sounds like benign fasiculation syndrome.  I would recommend that you have your electrolytes checked (complete metabolic panel plus magnesium and phosphorus) to make sure your electrolytes are stable.  Avoid any diuretic or "weight loss" pills that can cause metabolic imbalances.

I hope this has been helpful.
Member Comments (20)

by nd10, Dec 13, 2006 12:00AM
Thank you for your help.  This site is amazing.  The dent in only in the left thigh.  My finace is deployed and I think this is my anxiety manifesting itself.  I cired myself to sleep last night staring at the dent in my left thigh.  It just appeared one day.

by mike1105, Dec 13, 2006 12:00AM
the "dent" is the space between two "bellies" of the quadriceps muscle. I do not think it has anything to do w ALS. sounds to me like you need to relax and go see a funny movie and eat some Milk Duds.

by JDHAWK, Dec 13, 2006 12:00AM
To: nd10
I have had the same twitches you write about in your post.  I started to take magnesium and in time they went away.  I really don't think you are in the beginning stages of ALS.  I would think after 13 mos you would have experienced weakness by now.  I know it is hard to let go, but I hope you can.  I would also suggest that you stop reading the internet for several days and see if things improve.  All my best.

by nd10, Dec 14, 2006 12:00AM
Thank you everyone.  I hate being so wrapped up in myself.  I pray that Ican have a period of peace.  After a year of really bad pain in the rt leg last year, I keep feeling like somethink is going to creep up on me.  I can't stand that such sad diseases exist in the world - it scares me and breaks my heart.

by JCmcc, Dec 17, 2006 12:00AM
To: nd10
While I agree, that, most likely there is nothing wrong with you; I am not responding to you as a medical doctor and therefore I cannot say that there is nothing wrong with you. You need an exam to be sure of that, and, to just think that can be dangerous.

I suggest that you see your family doctor and go from there. Stressing on the other hand will get you no where though I understand that you are worried.



Good Luck!

JCmcc.

by JCmcc, Dec 17, 2006 12:00AM
Also, to everyone here telling her that she does not have Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis: Yes, it is highly unlikely but according to the forum rules and regulations telling people that "they do not have anything wrong with them" or that "you do not have ALS" is wildly inappropriate.



Thanks,

JCmcc.

by nd10, Dec 18, 2006 12:00AM
I went to my neuro and he did an exam - he said I di not havr it and to stay off of the internet.  Ican still see the big dent - I am still worried even after he said not to be.  I am worried it is in the early stages.  The dent is horizontal and very hard.  only anout an inchin diam and more obv when I flex.  He did not know what it was - said maybe fat atrophy.  He made me do all sorts of exercies an there is no weakness.  My left arch twitches every five mins or so, not really fasic, just one little twitch.  Iam still very scared.  No weakness anywhere at all, lots of energy, etc.  Have been twiching for over a year.  Neuro said this is benign and asked me bofore I left if he ws able to convince me.  I am not convinced b/c of the small dent.  Does atrophy in ALS start with a dent in quad - my neuro saud no.

by nd10, Dec 18, 2006 12:00AM
I went ot neuro and he said nothing is wrong.  Can you belive I am still worried?

by Christie04_returns, Dec 18, 2006 12:00AM
If you can't believe your neurologist, then you have other issues that counseling or therapy may help you address.  I wish you the best of luck.

by JCmcc, Dec 18, 2006 12:00AM
To: nd10
Dear, "nd10"



   I am sorry to hear of your continued fear but I am also excited for you to learn that ALS appears to be out of the question for you, and that, it also appears that your neurologist saw nothing else wrong with you.

   The dent is odd, I agree, but if he believes it is benign he is more than likely correct. He would take a great danger in just telling you that.

   If the fear continues to be a problem for you, you may want to consider seeing a neuropsychologist. It is interesting to learn how fear and the mind can have devastating effects on our Central Nervous System. Many physicians believe that the worst thing for medicine was that of the theory of Descartes which separated the mind from the body-truly-they work hand in hand.



Good Luck!

JCmcc.

by nd10, Dec 18, 2006 12:00AM
HE TOO SEEMED TO THINK THAT THE DENT WAS WEIRD.  HE COULD NOT SEE IT UNTIL I STOOD UP.  HE FELT IT AND SAID IT WAS FINE.  YOU SEEM TO KNOW A WHOLE LOT - I ASKED HIM WHAT MUSCLE WASTING LOOKS LIKE IN EARLY ALS AND HE DID NOT REALLY PROVIDE ME WITH AN ANSWER.  WOULD IT STAART WITH A SMALL DENT IN THE LEG.  WOULD IT COME WITH WEAKNESS.  THESE ARE MY QUESTIONS.  I WONDER IF IT IS FROM LEANING UP AGAINST SOMETHING???????

by nd10, Dec 18, 2006 12:00AM
HAS ANYONE EVER HEARD OF A HORIZONTAL DENT IN LEFT LEG