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What antidepressant really works?

by wermy, Oct 03, 2007 12:25PM
I have clinical depression and have been on antidepressants for over 25 yrs and have tried just about all of the meds that are out there.  I am on Zoloft 112 mg/day but it's not enough. I also get headaches and HP from it. I have sleep apnea (use the CPAP machine) and am under 50.  I'm overweight but not obese. I cry all the time and it's hard to keep the tears back when you're at work.  I feel that over the years I just keep adding more weight, mostly due to the antidepressants.  I crave sweets and am afraid will be diabetic sooner than later.  My question is:  is there any antidepressant that really works?  that doesn't have major side effects like feeling so anxious and tightness/heaviness in your chest?  that doesn't affect your libido? that doesn't increase your appetite? that makes you feel normal.....it's been a long time since I've felt normal.  
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by benisnotmyname, Oct 03, 2007 07:19PM
Antidepressant are in categories based on how they function, but pretty much they work on one or more of the three "feel good" brain chemicals--serotonin, dopamine and norepinephrine.  Zoloft is pretty fluffy and works only on serotonin.  Lexapro is a much stronger one in the same category as Zoloft and is supposed to have fewer side effects.  It made me so agitated I could stand to be in my own skin.  Oh well.

Effexor and Cymbalta increase levels of both serotonin and norepinephrine, so in a sense you more feel good chemical being affected.  If you add Wellbutrin to one of these it covers even more since it acts on both dopamine and norepinephrine.  If that ain't enough, add some lithium (900mg) which tends to increase the effectiveness of anti-depressants while reigning in extremes (even if you aren't bipolar) and you have a cocktail about as good as you can get.  I was on these three, max doses of each, and it pulled me out of hell.  I droped wellbutrin and I've cut back from 450mg Effexor to 225mg just to try to find the lowest effective doses.

They are always coming up with new drugs, so maybe they'll get one that doesn't have the libido side effects, sleepiness,  etc., but I know of no such miracle drug yet.  I can tell you that forcing yourself into regular exercise helps fight the side effects and depression overall (bike, run, tennis, volleyball--something where you work up and sweat and move around alot).  Good luck and let us all know if you find the miracle drug (and it's legal!).  God bless

by jmana, Oct 04, 2007 01:37PM
To: All
I have been on Paxil for 8 years. It has helped me with my Panic/despression and OCD issues. But now paxil has givin me other issues. I have gained 50lbs in the 8 years. I am doing Weight Watchers and following it religeously. No weight is coming off! Grrrrrrr   Also, I am sick of the lack of sex drive. I want to come off Paxil. My Dr say's I can switch to Prozac. I have dropped my paxil by only 3mgs and I am dizzy and keep waking up at 3:00 am with anxiety and tremors. Can anyone relate?

Julie

by benisnotmyname, Oct 04, 2007 09:34PM
To: jmana
I can relate.  I was on Paxil for 8 yrs too.  My dosage was upped the last 2 years and it helped awhile but then tapered off.  When I cut back to half and then start up effexor I still got real dizzy, really tired, depressed, and missed a week of work while I slept most of the time.   It was not fun at all.  You need to cut pills, whatever, to taper off as little at a time with 2-3 weeks before tapering down again--you can tell when it's okay better than a doc because different people have way different reactions to reducing meds.  As far as sex drive, I think they all mess it up.  I have found that you need to really follow the "use it or lose it" approach to sex and supplements help.

by wermy, Oct 24, 2007 08:58AM
To: all
I just don't understand why I feel like this..it's almost like a cycle.....in the summer I'm sleepy all the time, in the fall I'm more anxious, get depressed and cry uncontrollably (at which time I get scared thinking crazy things like "maybe this will lead to suicide? or me doing something crazy?) and I'm afraid of what I think of?  Is that crazy of what?  I am perfectly sane but yet I am afraid of what my mind can come up with to scare me?  That's the one biggest fear I have.....always wondering if I'll act on it....but don't want to deep down.....I had horrible thinking patterns back when it all started 25 yrs. ago and am deafly afraid of My thinking...I know it's crazy cuz my mom says just don't think about it, but I can't it's always in the back of my mind....and when I'm feel very anxious, depressed it just can go too far and I started crying thinking what's going to happen next....if only I could break that vicious cycle of "I;m afraid of being afraid."  does that make any sense?  anyone else like that?

by Drgnflylv, Oct 27, 2007 01:44AM
To: wermy
Reading your post felt like I was reading somethin I wrote. I so understand what you wrote cause i feel the exact same way.

by africanzoey, Oct 27, 2007 04:13PM
To: all
I so relate to what everyone has written.  I to have been on just all the anti-depressants out there and it is tough t live with the side effects that you get.  As far as Prozac goes I would recommend it if you can switch to it and tolerate it.  It seems to help with weight which is good.  I am also on Neurontin, which has caused me to gain weight.  It is like no matter what you do the weight does not come off with the use of ad.  

I will say the thoughts and the anxiety are weird and scary.  I too wonder about acting on them.  I get scared and feel like I should move to the middle of nowhere and be a hermit and not be around people.  What scares me is that I have thought of this often and feel like my family could not possibly want me around, which logically is not true.  But that is what my anxiety makes me feel like at times.  

My depression and anxiety is the result of a job injury and I just want to get back to normal enough again that I can have a more normal life.  I guess the big part is that I have the normal on the outside but not on the inside.  A cocktail of meds certainly does help becuase of covering the various areas.  Paxil is one drug that has scared me because of the weight gain problem as opposed to other meds.  I appreciated the candor in talking about how they feel with the anxiety and depression it has helped me to hear how others feel.  I too do have days where I have no energy and need to sleep a lot.  If I don't I get sick (cold flu type stuff) and it is just a battle that is not going to be won.  I would like to get out of that but it has just not worked.  I used to exercise all the time but now am pushing to get back to that.  

Best of Luck to all and thanks for sharing.  

by Taffycat, Oct 28, 2007 02:04PM
To: jmana
Oh my gosh...let me tell you about my TERRIBLE experience with Paxil.  My doctor prescribed it to me over 10 years ago for a "situational" depression, while never telling me about the withdrawal/side effects.  While I haven't needed Paxil for almost 9 years, I have continued to take it because the withdrawals were so bad they made me  virtually dysfunctional.  I felt flu-ish, dizzy, nauseous - all I wanted to do was lay down all day every day.  I tried taking a razor blade and slivering off little bits of my pill at a time to "decrease" my dose very slightly but gradually.  My body STILL reacted.  Finally, I have a vet friend who told me to decrease my dose (in my case 5 mg) every other day.  After about 1 month of doing this, I went down to the new lowered dose (now down by 5 mg.).  I stayed on this for 1 month or 2 and then did  the decrease again.  My body still fought the final discontinuation of the last 5 mgs., but now I'm finally - FINALLY - Paxil free.  NEVER AGAIN!  It helped me too, but ultimately the depression was better than those horrible withdrawals!  Good luck.

by wermy, Oct 29, 2007 08:48AM
To: all
thank you all for sharing your experiences, it really helps to hear what others have gone through and that you're not the only one...i keep thinking if i've never gone on the antidep., i'd be fine now....and possibly use xanax once in awhile to calm down.....but that's not what has happened...my dr. told me i can try getting off the meds, but it's almost impossible after using them for 25 yrs...i've tried cutting back.......but the withdrawal is soo bad that it's hard to function especially if you're working.....one thing i'm going to do is find myself a therapist i can talk to openly about my problems, depression because i know talking it out with a therapist i hear usually helps.  Also, just wanted you to know that for anxiety, instead of popping another antidep., trying using xanax or klonopin..just a small dosage....it really helps.

by Venora Moonwind, Oct 29, 2007 02:53PM
different meds will work for different people.I take celexa/zyprexa for bi polar and it works great but it might not work for you.I went therough lots of meds before I got on this combo.So you have to find what works for you. be open and honest with your doc  and tell them all your concerns there are lots of good meds out there. you just have to find the one that is best for you.
Love venora

by azwo, Oct 29, 2007 04:36PM
To: yous guys
Next time a Jehovah's Witness comes to your door.....let them in! It's the truth and nothing but the truth. If you heart is in the right place and you need answers they can help you find them for yourself. All other religions have left me in a state of wonder. The JW's teach from the Bible and nothing but the word of God. I have anxiety and all the crazy thoughts that go with it and through their organization I have hope and happiness. All the cult **** you have heard of them is not true and I can't