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HCG More than Doubling in 48 hrs but Progesterone Dropping!
Answered by
Keith Downing, MD - Obstetrics, Gynecology
MA
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HCG More than Doubling in 48 hrs but Progesterone Dropping!

by lararobin, Oct 13, 2007 10:09AM
I am 4 wks and 6 days pregnant. Menstrual cycle began 9/8/07. I ovulated on CD 17. My prog at 8 DPO was 22.4. My HCG at 11 DPO was 53 and Prog was 20.1. My HCG at 14 DPO (Mon 10/8) was 299 didn't run prog. My HCG at 17 DPO was 1451 and Prog was 13.7. My OB said she is encouraged by my HCG levels more than doubling and is not too worried about my progesterone b/c the labs can have a pretty good margin of error. She said she is going to prescribe prog suppositories (200mg at night once a day) to ease my worries. I had a chemical pregnancy last month and I have been very worried about this pregnancy. Please give me your thoughts on my progesterone levels and your experiences with the suppository success rates. Thanks!

by Keith Downing, MD, Oct 14, 2007 03:07PM
Hello,

There is no known harm in using progesterone supplementation in the setting you describe, however, there is no good evidence, in a spontaneously conceived pregnancy, supplemental progesterone decreases the risk of a miscarriage.

With respect to the progesterone levels, the fact they are dropping is undoubtedly concerning.  I don't measure serial progesterone levels in the setting you describe, as it would not influence my management.  Your subsequent ultrasound and repeat hCG level should be quite informative regarding the possible early success of your pregnancy.

Stay encouraged,

Dr. Downing  
Member Comments (25)

by Sabreen, Oct 13, 2007 12:38PM
To: Dr. Downing and lararobin
Hey I'm in somewhat same kind of situation. I'm very very sorry that I'm porting my question under urs but believe me I have been trying to post my question since a week now but unfortunately everytime I try they tell me its full for the day so just thought since he hasn't answered ur question yet, he will answer mine's as well at the same time. I'm sorry if this bothered you at all. May God bless you and be with you.
Dr. Downing,  
I'm so confused right now as to what is happening with me. I had a m/c last month at five weeks. I had one before too in June but that was little earlier than 5 weeks.
Now this month I'm about 8 days late with my period. I had some spotting (pinkish sometimes red lining, but only on the tissue) for about two and a half days. This happened a day after my period was due. Usually my period is a lot heavier and longer.
My cycle has always been very regular, about 28 days. This spotting was not like my period at all.
Taken one blood test and about 4 urine tests - all negative. I don't know whats happening with me!!!
My Dr. thinks that I'm not pregnant and said to wait for a week for the period-if it doesn't come I can schedule an appointment for examination. I scheduled an appointment for monday. I have bad cramps in lower abdomen and lower back, I had them last month (when i was pregnant) as well as with my son. I'm only 22, been trying since 8 months now...please advise!!!!
Sabreen

by guatmommy, Oct 13, 2007 11:27PM
To: lararobin
I have the same issue.  My #'s are rising but my prog levels had dropped.  I was put on Prog. Supp. 2x a day and  my levels have rised.  They are not as high as my dr would like them but she said she would take it.  Prog supp. are not very pleasant buthey, I will do whatever I have to do to sustain this preg.  Good luck!  

by lararobin, Oct 14, 2007 10:32AM
To: guatmommy
Thanks for responding! How far along are you? And what are your levels? Also, what side effects are you having? I am taking (1) 200mg suppository at night. My OB didn't feel it was necessary to take the full 400 mg yet. I haven't really had any major side effects, although I have only been taking them for 2 nights. She warned me of hot flashes, nausea and sore breasts. My breasts were already sore and haven't really gotten worse. I am nauseated a bit this morning but my first morning BBT hasn't jumped up (stayed the same around 98.4) and no hot flashes. I hope this doesn't mean they are not working!

by guatmommy, Oct 14, 2007 08:48PM
To: larobin
I am 7 1/2 weeks.  My prog. went from 14 to 7 abetween weeks 5 & 6.  Last week it was 12 w/ the prog. supp.  I take 100 mg 2x a day.  I don't think I am having side effects.  My boobs are sore but I attribute that to the preg.  I am also nauteous on and off throughout the day but I also attribute that to the preg. as well.  I go back on Tues to my Ob and I am assuming she will run another test.  I go to the high risk dr. on Wed.  so maybe they will have some more insight.  

by lararobin, Oct 15, 2007 08:28AM
To: guatmommy
Thank you for sharing your story! I wish you the best this week and hope we can both stay in touch regarding our progress. Are you taking your waking temp in the mornings... BBT? Mine has stayed around 98.4 even after starting the progesterone. Hope that doesn't mean the progesterone suppliments aren't working. Still no major side effects... just your typical sore breasts, fatigue and a little nausea.

by guatmommy, Oct 15, 2007 09:13AM
To: lararobin
I am not taking my waking temp. I will let you know how I make out tomorrow.  I had a m/c in July so I am so nervous!!!  I get crazed at every little thing!

by lararobin, Oct 16, 2007 01:52PM
To: guatmommy
I know what you mean re: being nervous. My heart races sometimes so much... I have trouble even breathing! My first pregnancy was so smooth and so easy. This round has been WAY different. Last month we had a chemical pregnancy, which really shook me up. Also, I was flagged for having PCOS a couple of months ago... my OB believes I'm borderline and our fertility specialist doesn't think I have it. So who knows! After all this blood work and hormone worries... I think we all know too much these days. Too many resources and web sites are out there to arm us with all of these what if's and worries. My first sonogram will be on Nov 2nd, which will be a huge hurdle to cross. Once I see a strong heart beat, I will start to enjoy this pregnancy :)

by lararobin, Oct 17, 2007 01:08PM
To: guatmommy
I received the results of my bloodwork this morning and my prog is back up to 24.8. That is even higher than my first reading of 22.4. My HCG was 12328. This blood was drawn on DPO 22. Thank heaven the prog suppositories seem to be working so far. I hope you get wonderful news from your high risk Dr. today! Hope to hear good news from you soon.

by guatmommy, Oct 17, 2007 07:52PM
To: lararobin
Wonderful news today :-)  Said all looks well.  I heard the babies heartbeat :-)  154 beats per minutes.  I have to go back in 2 weeks and he is going tomonitor me very closely.  He is allowing me to fly to Portugal (on business) in Nov.  So I was excited, my reg ob said no.  He told me to go ahead just get up every 30 minutes and walk on the plane.  

by lararobin, Oct 17, 2007 08:43PM
To: guatmommy
Congratulations! That is wonderful... so exciting. STRONG heart beat. I am counting down the days until my sono. Are you going to continue to monitor your progesterone or did they suggest no more testing?

by guatmommy, Oct 18, 2007 02:11PM
To: lararobin
I guess they took my prog levels in those 800 vials of blood they took.  LOL... My ob said to remain for the 1st trimester.  154 is strong heartbeat