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Does anyone know of any older kids that did not get vaccinated?

by 2007mommy, Jan 10, 2008 08:19PM
Hi everyone, a friend and I were discussing vaccinations, I know more and more parents are not geeting there children vaccinated for many reasons, without getting into a big discussion, I was wondering in anyone out there knows of anyone who has older children that were not vaccinated and what has there outcome been? have they been sick? etc.

Thanks for anyones comments!!
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by brookie1523, Jan 10, 2008 08:50PM
This is a very passionate subject...I know plenty of older kids not vaccinated and they are fine.  I was born in the 70's and I got 3 times LESS vaccines then kids get nowadays.  I myself did not give my baby all the vaccines.  I researched all of them and only gave a few of them.  I gave her the menengitis ones...I did not give her polio because it has been knocked off the Western Hempishere and have had no cases of it since the 70's and I did not give her hep B because she is not having sex, sharing needles, and I dont have it. She can get it when she is older.  I highly suggest looking at the ones that they can take when they are older.  

It's a very heated debate and I highly suggest reading all you can...I think the website that is non bias is called vaccine.org or soemthing like it...

by sleepless_mom, Jan 11, 2008 07:06AM
Same as brookie1523, my son is only 4 and I am fortunate enough to have a very aware pediatrician who openly does link autism to vaccinations. He specifically purchases only single doses (no multi-doses which contain mercury). There are a few that he has not been able to get single doses for and I have opted out of those based of "religious exemption" which in my definition is as broad as saying I won't do anything to even POTENTIALLY harm my child.  If nothing else space them out, there is absolutley no reason for them to be done by the immunization schedule.

by sck08, Jan 11, 2008 08:41AM
I agree, space them out.  They dont need all at once.  My DD gets 3 of them and I do one a month.  Here's why.  At my 2 month visit my 5.5 pound baby was supposed to get 5 vaccines-4 shots and one oral along with my friend who has a 13 pound 2 month old getting the exact same dose of vaccines.  How can anyone justify giving my 5.5 pound 2 mo old the same dose of vaccine as a 13 pound baby????  They even measure out tylenol based on weight!  I mean come on, it did not make any sense to me. I refused the polio, hep B, rotovirus, and one other.  To me polio has been around in 30 yrs, hep B she can get as a teenager, she can get diarrhea from rotovirus-big whoop, etc...She is also not getting MMR ever.  

I dont believe it's the mercury in vaccines I think that because our kids today get 3 times more vaccines then we did as kids, it breaks down their immunity.  I also dont think that every child is made the same.  Their should be doses based on weight not ONE SIZE FITS ALL!!  

by chigirl29, Jan 11, 2008 11:30AM
Usually, public school systems require immunization documentation prior to enrollment.  If you plan to homeschool or go the private school route (some do require immunization) then you might could not vaccinate and be fine.
I do the required vaccines, and my family travels abroad so I included polio since we would be traveling to a polio endemic area.

Also, if you plan to use a daycare--my friends say they have to have vac forms as well.

by chigirl29, Jan 11, 2008 11:35AM
To: ALL
By the way, a lot of diseases that were wiped out in the United States are being brought in by immigrants--both legal and illegal.
Polio is still found in South America.

Before anyone jumps on me for this, my husband is an immigrant from Asia. He is legal and has all his health clearances--unlike many others who come here.

Also, I used to live in a state that never had a TB problem.  All of a sudden, a large group of immigrants moved into the town next to ours.  Guess what--the school had to be closed for TB outbreak.  

Undocumented people can make your children unhealthy--and that is a public known fact.

I wouldn't take any chances in today's transit society.  My children are vaccinated and are extremely intelligent.  I don't believe vaccines are the main culprit of autism, and I have researched this before giving my children the vaccines.

Of, course, this is my opinion and you are free to have your own and free to make your own choices.

I do agree that doses should be tailored to the child--excellent comment to make.

by chigirl29, Jan 11, 2008 11:38AM
To: Vac Schedule
Also, I was doing research for a book I was writing about vaccinations.  The schedule is important regarding the immune system and how it responds.  The time schedule is based on the effectiveness of the doses.  For instance, you can still get polio in India if you do not have all the doses--and within a certain time frame.

by chigirl29, Jan 11, 2008 04:27PM

|   MMR and Autism CDC Factsheet
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Measles, Mumps, and Rubella (MMR) Vaccine and Autism Fact Sheet
Basic Information
The MMR vaccine protects children against dangerous, even deadly, diseases.


Because signs of autism may appear at around the same time children receive the MMR vaccine, some parents may worry that the vaccine causes autism.


Carefully performed scientific studies have found no relationship between MMR vaccine and autism.


CDC continues to recommend two doses of MMR vaccine for all children.
Additional Facts
MMR is a combination vaccine that protects children from measles, mumps, and rubella (also known as German measles). The first dose of the vaccine is usually given to children 12 to 15 months old. The second dose is usually given between 4 and 6 years of age.


In 1998, a study of autistic children raised the question of a connection between MMR vaccine and autism.


The 1998 study has a number of limitations. For example, the study was very small, involving only 12 children. This is too few cases to make any generalizations about the causes of autism. In addition, the researchers suggested that MMR vaccination caused bowel problems in the children, which then led to autism. However, in some of the children studied, symptoms of autism appeared before symptoms of bowel disease.


In 2004, 10 of the 13 authors of the 1998 study retracted the study's interpretation. The authors stated that the data were not able to establish a causal link between MMR vaccine and autism.


Other larger studies have found no relationship between MMR vaccine and autism. For example, researchers in the UK studied the records of 498 children with autism born between 1979 and 1998. They found:


The percentage of children with autism who received MMR vaccine was the same as the percentage of unaffected children in the region who received MMR vaccine.


There was no difference in the age of diagnosis of autism in vaccinated and unvaccinated children.


The onset of "regressive" symptoms of autism did not occur within 2, 4, or 6 months of receiving the MMR vaccine.


Groups of experts, including the American Academy of Pediatrics, agree that MMR vaccine is not responsible for recent increases in the number of children with autism. In 2004, a report by the Institute of Medicine (IOM) concluded that there is no association between autism and MMR vaccine