obsession § compulsion

[hippy]

in regard's to tapering, so many people including my own experence, peolple wind up taking massive amounts of

pill's looking back it would seem to be obsession and

compulsion,

My question  is do anti depressents help with that type of behaviour, do they reduce or elimanate the compulsion.

and the obsession to take pill's.( vike's , perc's, hydro's,

loracet's.

[hellbent]

There are different types of anti-depressants and they do affect people differently. I have been fortunate enough not to need them, but I do know that the latest kind, SSRIS, which include paxil, prozac, are only supposed to be effective if you have a seratonin deficit. They are called seratonin re-uptake inhibitors, and that's what they do. Problem is, they are blanket-prescribed to anybody who doesn't feel good about themselves or their lives. I know this doesn't answer your question...

[memikey]

I do know of one drug that is specifically for "obssessive-compulsive disorders".  It's called Anafronil, but depending on your gender, a common side effect for women is (this is fact and all over the internet), when you sneeze, you have not only a spontaneus orgasm, but a multiple orgasm.  For men, it can make them "last for ever" and is sometimes given to prevent premature ejaculation.



Anyway, if you don't mind the side effects, this drug will cure compulsive shoppers, nail biters, you name it ... so it may help with addiction disorder too.



--memikey

[alexandra_r]

I think addiction is different for everyone.  I wrote in a post a while back that I have this theory--I believe that some people are genetically predisposed to addiction and that these people will NEVER be able to take pain medication responsibly, learn to drink normally or be able to taper off meds for withdrawal.  It is genetic and when they start consuming any kind of "feel good" drugs (or other ones), the compulsion sets in and they just go off on a bender.  Most people I know that fall into this category have family members who are alcoholics or recovering alcoholics or addicts.  However, I honestly believe there is another kind of addict who is situationally/psychologically addictive (and this kind of addiction can be just as severe), but because they don't have this genetic trigger, they MAY abuse one substance and not another, may be able to smoke a joint once or a month or have an occasional glass of wine with dinner.  These people can also taper off meds successfully.  Often these people do not have alcoholism or addiction that runs in their family.



I believe I am the second type of addict.  I have in my possession 25 vicodin which I have had for the last 3 and 1/2 weeks that I have ABSOLUTELY not taken (I know that some people will find this hard to believe because they can only relate to what they would do), but for me--the vicodin were not really about getting high.  It's true that I did get a lift from them, but I took them because I was in pain.  However, I do have a long history of addiction, which I  believe was brought on by situational factors (friends, in a rock band in SF, the culture I grew up in).  However, since I quit doing heroin, I have never had a desire to do it since I was clean about a year--have been offered it, even, and had NO problem turning it down, I have a bottle of wine chilling in my refridgerator that's been there for about 3 months, I have a bad of marijuana that I have had for over a year (only started out as a 1/2 ounce and there is probably 1/4 of an ounce left).



The point is, people are different--what is one person's compulsion, may not be another person's.  What works for some people may not work for others.  That is why people who work with addiction should have lots of options for people who want to quit.

[hellbent]

"when you sneeze, you have not only a spontaneus orgasm, but a multiple orgasm"

"For men, it can make them "last for ever"



Now that sounds like a hell of a drug.

[Nod]

In my fight, I went to a Physchologist who diagnosed me with OCD (obsessive Compulsive Disorder.)  At first I thought he was crazy but looking back on my history and how I respond to things, he hit me right on the head.  I wasn't so much Compulsive (action) but was more Obsessive (thought.)  When I met Mr Hydro the Compulsive came out.  Anyway, working with my PHD I worked up to 40mg Paxil which was a huge help.  The withdrawals where less, no more drug dreams which drove me nuts, and I have been clean almost 6 months now. The Jones are much less as well.  Funny becasue now I find out (after) that a couple others in my immediate family are the same diagnosis and on the same drug.  For what its worth, Hippy, thought I'd share with you.  I always find your posts helpful and fun.   Take care - Nod

[girly44]

I have OCD, and am also a depressed person. I take cymbalta, and have taken while I was doped on meds, now I am trying to taper, and it doesn't seem to help much with any wd's. I still get really bad stomach pains, and have RLS, but mine could be, because I was taking it prior and my body is used to taking both the cymbalta and pain killers at once, so I don't know if starting it when trying to taper would help, but it does take a few weeks for the stuff to get in your system and start helping. Good luck!

[D30]

I take Lexapro and wellbutrin for OCD.