Member Comments are provided by individuals and reflect their personal opinions only. Under NO circumstances should you act on any advice or opinion posted in this forum.  ALWAYS check with your personal physician before taking any action regarding your health! MedHelp International and our partners, sponsors and affiliates have no obligation to monitor any comments posted on this site, or the content and/or accuracy of such exchanges. MedHelp International does not endorse the views of any user.

Child Behavior Community

This patient support community is for discussions relating to child behavior, discipline (behavior management), parent-child communications, and social development.
 | 

7 year old with crying, low self esteem, does not pay attention

by 5redroses, May 06, 2008 05:04AM
Tags: crying
I have a daughter that is struggling to complete task at home and at school in a timely manner. If you call her name too loud she cries, if she thinks something is too hard she cries, if someone compliments her sister and not her she cries, i told her to go to her room and get dress and she cried. I don't know what to do. i have been tip toeing around her trying to make sure that she does not cry. I can't do that anymore. I need some advice. her work at school is very messy and sometimes her teacher has to tell her to do something more than once. she is not being defiant but it is aggravating. she say she did not hear or did not understand. it is like she lives in another world. she bites her hair, nails, and has a constant runny nose that she seems to not even notice. she is always saying that someone is not going to like her or they might stare at her. she gets up in the middle of the night sometimes and says that she hears things and she can't sleep. no i am not a separated parent, she lives with both parents, i don't believe you have to spank a child tp properly discipline them but i a finding myself getting very frustrated. can someone please give me some advice or some strategies to help her and myself cope.
Member Comments (10)

by jdtm, May 06, 2008 07:12AM
I suspect your daughter is suffering from anxiety.  Often children who suffer from anxiety appear to have an over-sensitive amygdala (section of the brain) which causes issues in self-regulation.  This is why children with anxiety cry a lot and are easily frustrated and upset.  They also have difficulty concentrating at school and appear to not be listening; when in fact, the anxiety "takes over" their cognitive brain; sometimes the anxiety can be so severe that our children are not able to learn in perceived unsafe places until that anxiety level is lowered.  Your other examples of "biting her nails and hair", "others not going to like her", and "poor sleeping" issues are all very common anxiety behaviours.

Anxiety is an inherited trait, but anxiety is highly treatable and young children respond quickly and favourably to the correct treatment.  I might suggest you google the term "childhood anxiety" or "anxiety disorders" or other similar phrases to find information on the internet.  There is lots and lots of information as anxiety is such a common mental health issue.  Since it appears your daughter is having trouble functioning, then you should contact your family physician for advice.  If he/she is unable to help, then ask for a referral to a doctor with experience in anxiety issues.  The only way to help a  person with anxiety is to "lower the anxiety level" and a qualified doctor should be able to help you in this regard.  As every child responds differently to anxiety; so the treatment can be somewhat varied although the typical approach will involve intervention, therapy and possibly medication.

Please let us know if there are other questions.  I wish you the best ...

by althepal39, May 06, 2008 07:29AM
Wow - she sounds exactly like me when I was her age!  And I have a son who is very similar.  There is a book called the"The Highly Sensitive Child" which might help you.  She sounds very sensitive - and kids who are that sensitive pick up on EVERYTHING.   The notice who is looking at them, HOW they are looking at them,  and then they imagine WHY they are looking at them (And in their head this is usually a negative reason).   They just don't miss a trick - they are always scanning their environment (they aren't even aware they are doing this)  for the subtlest of clues to what people may be thinking.  So someone who is so highly in tuned to these things all the time - will be way more sensitive to their sister gettting a compliment   than someone who really isn't paying attention.  This causes a tremendous amount of stress for them - thought they can't seem to help it which is probably why she cries at the drop of a hat.  Can I ask how she does in school?  Because sometimes these kids can be more advanced than the other kids and find it all very boring (hence the sloppiness and the zoning out..).   I definitely would not spank a child who is this sensitive.  

by jdtm, May 06, 2008 09:43AM
To: althepal39
Thanks for reminding me that many children who suffer from anxiety also are co-morbid with sensory issues (Sensory Integration Disorder if severe) and also depression.  I neglected to mention those points to the first poster.  

I'm curious - how is your son coping with his issues?   Any advice or hints on helping our children would be so appreciated.  And what helped you in school - these ideas are tools which help us to help our children.  Although the research in mental health issues for children is increasing, there are so many things yet to be discovered.  Actually research is beginning to indicate that most children with anxiety/sensitivity issues tend to be cognitively advanced (sometimes I think it is the "price they pay" for being smart - this was an ironic statement).  I question the "sloppiness and zoning out to being more advanced" for most of our children - research has proven that if the brain has to choose between emotional aspects or cognitive aspects, the emotional side of the brain will win every time.  Increased stress will, of course, decrease the learning ability of our children.  Our goal is always how to "lessen the anxiety/fear/stress".

Looking forward to any ideas or suggestions you might have ...

by 5redroses, May 06, 2008 03:10PM
To: althepal39, jdtm
my daughter is very smart in school, it is just trying to get her focused to do the work. i ask her why does she write like this and she says she does not know. if i have her do the work for me at home and is it with her she does it the correct way. or shall i say neater and faster.
i really appreciate all the feed back and i will do my research on childhood anxiety.

by jdtm, May 06, 2008 03:40PM

If your daughter can do the work at home correctly, then do not urge her to do it faster or neater.  Some day when she is more comfortable at school, she will be able to do the work easier and more neatly.  Try to keep in mind that it is her anxiety/fear/stress which prevents her from doing this work neater and faster.  And as she says, she truly does not know why her body and brain is behaving this way (always remember it is her anxiety which causes this).  At this point, she does not have control; her anxiety has the control.  

by althepal39, May 07, 2008 06:25AM
To: jdtm, 5redroses
jdtm - yes - my son definitely has Sensory problems also - he is bothered by all types of fabrics (we are down to plain old cotton or really silky materials),  dim lighting really bothers him,  noises distract him. He is the poster child for sensitivity!   He's a deep thinker who is also bothered by anxiety and a slight bit of depression which I am trying to pull him away from by learning to cope to with his thoughts and trying to change his thinking when it comes to how he thinks others perceive him.      He also has the zoning out and sloppiness problem which I've been told may be a little ADD.  (to add another diagnosis to the bunch! LOL!)    He tends to do things very fast - to get to the heart of it - he can't be bothered with details.  Is that ADD or is that just him?  I think it may just be him.  When he wants to get things done - he'll get them done - he may leave a disaster in his wake - but it'll get done!    The reason I thought the sloppiness and zoning out may be the sign of being bored is for that reason.  When a kid gets something quickly - they don't have the patience to sit and listen to it be explained to the other kids and so they zone out.   They also are not interested in doing the work and so they just want to get it over with and that's why the do it quickly and sloppily.  ?  I don't know I'm just guessing.

The only thing that seems to help him is for me to be his "soft place to land" - he doesn't really cry anymore because he's a 10 year old boy - but he does COMPLAIN and he gets VERY NEGATIVE when he's having a bad day (which is a lot!) and I used to get really mad because I just couldn't take the constant complaining!!!   But then I realized he needed me to just listen.   So I do - and when I hear that he is making general statements like "Everyone hates me" - I stop him and ask him if that's really true - he knows its not because he does have some friends. Or if he thinks someone is thinking something like "Oh, yeah, Eric was looking at me like I was a big freak today!"   Then I'll ask him if Eric said that - or if he is just jumping to a conclusion of what Eric MAY be thinking.  And he'll realize that he's making it up in his head.  Well, sometimes he will - other days he will insist that's what the kid was thinking!  I just try to point out how he thinks in general sweeping thoughts when really every thing isn't black and white like that.   I think the socialization thing is a huge source of anxiety for kids who are very sensitive and prone to anxiety.   I'm working on helping him with his social skills.   I'll take any suggestions from anyone also!  

by jdtm, May 07, 2008 09:31AM
To: althepal39
I've copied some of your statements and then placed below my opinions.  I have no medical background (educator by trade); however, I do belong to a support group for parents and teachers of children suffering from anxiety.  Unfortunately, there are so many children affected with this mental health issue - one that is easily recognized (if one knows the symptoms) and one that responds favourably to treatment.  And surprisingly, their stories are so similar.  And, if anxiety is the issue, then the child will not outgrow it nor will the anxiety "go away".  The only thing that works is to"lessen the anxiety".

QUOTE
my son definitely has Sensory problems also - he is bothered by all types of fabrics (we are down to plain old cotton or really silky materials),  dim lighting really bothers him,  noises distract him. He is the poster child for sensitivity!   He's a deep thinker who is also bothered by anxiety and a slight bit of depression

This describes our child to a "T".  However, we believe that it is the anxiety which exacerbates the sensory issues and the depression.  Anxiety resides in the brain - a fearful physical, mental and emotional reaction in the absence of danger.  We have found that when the anxiety/fear/stress were lessened; so did the sensory issues and of course, the depression become less.  But, for us, this process of "lessening the anxiety" has taken years to reach the place where we are today.


QUOTE
am trying to pull him away from by learning to cope to with his thoughts and trying to change his thinking when it comes to how he thinks others perceive him.

This is what the professionals term "cognitive behavioural therapy".  This type of therapy is one of the main components of treatment for anxiety disorders.  But, I'm wondering - could a knowledgeable therapist offer additional help and guidance?  In our area, though, a professional will not counsel a child using this type of therapy until eight years of age - suppose it takes a certain amount of maturity to grasp the concepts.  Some of the children in our group have taken workshops and short courses on how to socially interact and/or worry less; the older ones CBT.


QUOTE
He tends to do things very fast - to get to the heart