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why does this happen?

by louise65, May 09, 2008 11:29AM
i have alot of bad stuff going on in my life but alot of good stuff too. then a bad day hits, a really bad day, often triggered by something and i start to feel suicidal even though im able to rationalise that it will pass. i able to make it through these days with some pretty hefty meds(i also have an opiate addiction). so between that and my psych meds i will pass these days in a haze and hope they dont hit again too soon. it just feels like it shouldnt be normal to feel that ending it all is a viable option. am not making too much sense so wil sign off fo now. just wondered if others feel the same?
Member Comments (14)

by ParamedFlorena, May 09, 2008 04:20PM
To: louise65
I'm glad to hear you can rationalize. There are good nudges and worse nudges. Somehow I am starting to think it's a fear of having to face the same every day. I was having a codeine-addiction. It's so easy to just pop a pill and let the rest depend. It's not helping at all, trust me! Without the pills you're standing more free and able to fight rationally.

When you have good days, enjoy them. Know that they'll come again. Changes do happen!

I was beginning on a low tonight, but my best therapy is: Rock. Music. Bathing in the lyrics. It maybe sounds like a very simple technique but it is a savior in the moment. Hang in there! I know it's really easy to start anticipating the worse days, but never forget that you can actively change it to "coping in the better days" and bring the coping with you to the worse.

Please check back. ((HUGS))

Florena

by louise65, May 10, 2008 01:54AM
hi florena, thats a lovely name by the way, pretty and unusual. thanks for your kind words, and fortunatly today ive woken up without that pit of despair in my stomach.i think alot stems from an admission i had with severe clinical depression,i was completely unable to cope with anything, even having a shower, eating, etc and although this is now about 4 yrs ago a part of me becomes very afraid that im going to fall off that cliff again, which is what it felt like when it happened.
how did you overcome your addiction? well done it is no mean feat and you did it. i also need to do it and have been making strides into reducing my use, slow but sure.
my best therapy is meditation but between one thing and another i havent been doing it for ages, i will get back on track with that, thats a good plan.
thank you florena for taking time to drop me a line, it helps, it really does. hope to hear from you again, love louise

by ParamedFlorena, May 10, 2008 05:45AM
To: louise65
How I broke the addiction... Want to hear the story? ...

My daughter had her cousin to visit for about a week, 2 years ago. They're 4 months of difference in age, and you know how kids being 3-4 years old play. They are pretty organized. Oh well, enough about that!
They decided they wanted to play "mom, dad and kid". My daughter found a blanket, dived down at the couch and started snorring. Her cousin asked: "But what are you doing?"
Her reply was: "I'll be mom."

It made me realize how serious I was starting to get about the addiction. The only thing I did was to work, sleep and pop the pills to alter myself.

It motivated me to start doing something. I cut the pills without wondering. It was tough and I stood in front of the medicine locker about 67 times a day convincing myself I was ruining everything I had if I took one more. I admit that I had to just run out of the pills - it wasn't easy to avoid taking them as long as I had them in the house. Codeine, I don't know what it does with one physically but soon it felt better to breathe and my heart went even on the beats too. Thinking was so much easier without the pills!
I don't know... I still have a horrible sleep-pattern and lying there at night I wonder how it'd be to sleep with sleeping aids but it's not getting into my home with my hands. I know that if I get anything stronger than 500 mg paracets into the house it'll weaken me. Opiates are probably a bit different. I don't know how it is to stop that cold turkey! It maybe is difficult to reduce slowly since you do have the whole pills but never forget that a body works best without medical substances in the body.

My daughter turns 6 years - in just a couple of months she begins school. I want to be there for her then! I just today heard that I'm going to stress my butt off with two jobs this summer so... um... hurray? I can still enjoy my 5 minutes in the morning being "free from thoughts" as I wake up!
I'm a - laugh if you like - "hobby-hindu". At least I lend the meditations, believe in chakras, never started on yoga, but I believe very much in the basic energy that our body has. If we keep the negative energies, it takes important space from the positive energies.

I've got a journal entry with positive affirmations that helped me then, still helps me now. At times it is as if you've got to programme my brain to sap out!

I had a major depression 14 years ago - eating disorders, complicated grief, teenage depression de luxe. It was after 10 years minimized to "seasonal affective disorder". Now? I don't know. I am free for now, and I refuse to dwell much more at it before the nights get shorter and darker. I am pretty determined to live life right now. In the present. Enjoying the moment. There are key-moments throughout our days, and those key-moments can be used positive!

Hold on to those. It's good to hear from you again. While some people appear to "sail through life", others might seem to wearliy continue to struggle from experience to experience and event in life. We may never know why this happens, but there is absolutely no reason to pretend that it doesn't happen. Even the smoothest journey through life can bid on challenges and everyone has feelings, emotions and thoughts around it.

Every situation is unique. Every human being is unique. Tell more about yourself. Where in the world do you live?

Florena

by louise65, May 10, 2008 08:29AM
hi florena, thank you for sharing your story with me, its amazing that you had that"light bulb" moment and sorted yourself out, well done, you should be proud of your accomplishment. i live in the uk, i have my daughter who lives with me she is 16yrs old. she has had juvenile diabetes(insulin dependent) since she was 9 and she has now developed anorexia, a lethal combination. she is being seen at the eating disorders unit and i think its only a matter of time before they admit her, she knows this so fights me tooth and nail every time she has appointments. its pretty tough watching her fade and not be able to stop it, yesterday i caught a good view of her naked back and was nearly physically sick on the spot with pure anxiety. i would be really interested to hear about your eating disorder, it might help me to better understand her,thats if you dont mind.i am tapering off my drug use, some days i do well but some days not, esp when i feel like i felt when i posted the other day. its been a long term problem for me so i quess getting off will have to be a long term aim.it would be good to wake up in the morning without your first thought being wheres my pills at!! hope to talk again, take care love louise

by louise65, May 10, 2008 11:45AM
the black mood returns as if from nowhere,it just descends and envelopes me, i hate it so much, and its back again. i dont have the energy to argue with it, i end up popping some extra meds to knock myself out till it goes. i know this is counterproductive but old habits die hard. it feels like a very physical thing, a pain, a heavy burden, i find it very hard to explain.im overwhelmed by the problems in my life at times and not being able to find someone in the same position makes the isolation worse. i go to the parent support group for anorexia but alot of it i dont relate to as my daughter has other means at her disposal eg. insulin ommision and at this very moment i can hear her opening her laxative bottle to have a bunch of pills again, i cant fight her right now, she has to want to get better herself which she clearly doesnt at the moment, she fights the therapists at every turn. im tired. im sad. im lonely.im not coping.

by ParamedFlorena, May 10, 2008 11:55AM
To: louise65
I'm working on writing an article on the eating disorders. I've had it for a while but it's not translated. I just wanted to stop by here now before I leave for the sea-food party tonight and tell you that you're definitely not alone!

Have you considered the Substance abuse support forum? I mean..... you could really find some re-encouragement there too.

Thank you for sharing so much. I do really appreciate talking with you!
You are not alone!

Florena

by louise65, May 11, 2008 12:35AM
thx florena, i do go to the substance abuse forum and will definitly go back when im ready to quit. let me know more about the article your writing, bye for now, louise

by ParamedFlorena, May 12, 2008 04:31AM
To: louise65
I hope you're feeling ok! I finally got a bit on the way with the entry....

>> http://www.medhelp.org/user_journals/show/10628
Please ask if you sit back with more questions!

Best wishes!

by louise65, May 13, 2008 11:15AM
thx florena, i will check it out in a mo and get back to you, hope your well, talk to you soon louise

by louise65, May 14, 2008 04:50AM
i had a read of your journal and it was very interesting, thx. am having one long panic attack today, had to call diabetes dept to reschedule her appt( have already taken today off to get her to the ed unit) and was met with hostility by a nurse who has never met me or my daughter who basically said, not good enough, we have grave concerns for her health(yeah me too!!), what am i supposed to do? im a sole parent, i have to work. keep having anxiety about the authorities removing her, probably not going to happen in reality but i cant seem to rationalise my way out of it. am struggling so much, i have depression problems of my own and this is just making it all worse. i love my daughter and try to do the best for her, the implication is its not enough. i think because she has a dangerous dual diagnosis things could get out of hand fast and i will be left with a kid stuck in hospital for months on end. sorry just needed to off load, louise

by louise65, May 14, 2008 05:26AM
if they take her i will not be able to go on

by ParamedFlorena, May 14, 2008 06:21AM
To: louise65