Is it prolonging the worst?

[Danny179]

Im a 28yo oxycotin addict since june/2007 i have been doing about 200mgs for most of that time.  Right now, I'm trying to quit on my own.  Haven't had any Oxy since Saturday, May 17 (I'm on day 3).  I have been taking a couple of Percocets per day to help ease some of the withdrawal symptons, e.g. Restless leg, sweats.  Am I just prolonging the worst of the withdrawals by doing this or will this help ease the pains on day 4 & 5?  I am taking Omega 3,6,9, taking vitamins, drinking green tea and forcing myself to eat a little.  I only have enough Percocet for about 2-3 days and I DONT WANT to get anymore.  Will most of the Oxy be out of my system before I run out of Percocet or am I just making it worse and prolonging the worst of the withdrawals?    

[meg52080]

i wish that i had some encouraging advice for you - but i am only on day one right now of being opiate free.  just thought i would send along a message to let you know that there are people here to talk to and who KNOW what you are going through at every stage.  read the thomas recipe below. i don't know if it actually helps, everyone on here says that it does.  i went this a.m. and got all of the stuff for it (and spent about 100 bucks).  good luck to you ;)

[Danny179]

Thanks for the encouragement.  I'm pretty much following the recipe except instead of taking Valium to sleep, I'm taking minimal Percocets (tec) to stay awake.  I'm in hour 60 of no Oxycotin and so far symptons haven't been too bad, but I am wondering how day 4 & day 5 are going to be with less Percocet to get me through and as for you-----keep it up the clean way is the way to go.  I have kicked Crack, cocaine, alcohol and pot over the last few years--all cold turkey but this is by far the hardest.  Keep it up, I know it can be done.

[limodan73]

Danny, unfortunatly you are ducking the eventual withdrawls of these things. I myself am going throught this myself. I was banging down enogh vics to kill most people. I realized that it was going to kill me. I have two boys that are more important to me than these damn pills. Find what you love and what you miss that these pills have taken from you and face the enevetible. I will say that timing can be an issue, becuase if you have never been through this, it is horrible. Get the stuff listed in here for the thomas recipe and hunker down. Your looking at a good commitment of time before it gets any better. God be with you bro.

[GoingToMakeIt]

Percocet is still an opiate. Even though it is not as strong, you are basically doing a taper. Nothing wrong with that. Tapering makes the withdrawals a bit less than cold turkey. Look at the health Pages here bottom right of page. Look at the Thomas recipe and amino acid posts. Good Luck and keep posting. It's not fun but you do live through it. Don't give in when you think you can't make it. In a few days after that, you'll be doing a little bit better.

[10356]

I would cut the pers in half as you go if you don't want to jump off now you are essentially tapering so you probably don"t feel to hot now. I would think you will still feel the wd but maybe not as bad for the taper... I wish you well and success on your journey....

[road2recovery]

I agree 100 percent with GTMI and 10356...Of course u will have to go through it, but it probably won't be as bad doing it this way, i would start cutting them in half and spreading them apart more as you go.....I really hope this works for you...Do u have time u can take off of work to do this???
Like they said think of what u love and have to live for, and beat these darn pills......
It takes time, but if you set your mind to it, and putting everything u have into it u can do it i promise
r2r

[CadillacJack]

The taper thing is good, if you can really hang with it, and actually taper in a reasonable manner. The raw truth is, you're going to go through some double tough days when you quit. And, in my opinion, you should very soon, since you see a little of the symptoms now, and take a lesser dose of basically the same drug. Get your plan together, maybe some of the Thomas recipe, or amino acids will help. In the end, you just have to want to quit and take a beating for probably several days. But you will come out the other side. Don't keep any opiates around, as the call is pretty strong to use & therefore feel better, which simply prolongs the w/d process. Don't be afraid  of the withdrawals. You'll live through it. And then, the days start getting better. Get your mind set to really buckle down, and quit. Withdrawals just are what they are. We all played, now we've had to pay. Good luck

cj

[Dieing2Live]

since percs are still an opiate, and the same oxycodone as oxycontin just oxycontin is extended release. atleast take less percs each day such as others have mentioned. you cant expect a quick recovery because in all honesty it takes time and getting the right mindest is critical. just take it day by day, second by second if you must. oxy is out of your system in 3-4 days max. i too am trying to get off of oxycontin, around 160-200mg a day so feel free to message me for any help or support.

[Dieing2Live]

also, i recommend some na meetings to help with the mental aspects. remember, getting clean in the easy part but staying clean is the hard part.

[goldenarm]

I tried to stop the oxys 4 months ago,,i was taking 120 to 160 mils a day for about 5 months,before that i was taking about 40 mils of oxy and 3 to 5 500 mil vicodans,,so ive been strung out on oxys and vics for almost 1and 1/2 yrs when  i tried to stop.I had 40 percosets,the 1st day with out oxys i ate 4 percosets and it wasnt that bad,,day 2 was hell and i ate 7 of them,,day 3 was out of control and i ate about 10 , i was so sick i went back t my dr and refilled my scrip for oxys,took me 2 days to get back to (normal).I have had major back pain ,now its all but healed and gone but im so screwed up on the oxys,,right now ive been eating about 5   40 mil oxys a day for a couple months and over the last couple days ive been going down to 4,,yesteday 3 ,,today is going to be 3 and tommorw is going to be 4  20s,,then 3 20s then a couple 10s and friday im suppose to go on Suboxone detox,,for 60 to 90 days and nothing,,my body is saturated with oxys and when i dont have them i get throw up sick with lots of anxiety and i cant do that,,i run a buisness and alot of people depend on me,ive only had 1 sick day in 7 yrs.Right now its not bad ,im just sore and dont have the energy i normally do and im anxious,tommorow and thursday is going to be hell to pay..im suppose to not  take anything satturday and by then i will really feel like ****,and then take one by sunday,,im running one day behind my 1st schedule as i had 3 more 40 oxys stashed that delayed it a day,,,i have homeade soup,lots of juice ,immodium etc,,i know that suboxone wont cure me,,and that i will have some pain and discomfort to come in intervals to finally get off off everything but i know  this plan will work and allow me to keep working as the worst day will be when im off of 3 days..Good luck going C/T and the taper can help but you will still end up sick..

[goldenarm]

The 1 by sunday is my 1st suboxone,any comments or advice is apreciated,,My Dr. will still give me oxys or suboxone..This is my choice to get off this ****,,i want my life back with out revolving around these damn pills..Part of my problem is i like the oxys,,and want more,,this has to stop....i have a good life and i dont want to lose it,,ive worked my *** off to get where i am,,and just want some normalcy again..

[road2recovery]

If u have tried to taper on oxy's and cannot then i would try sub, but only as long as you have tried everything.....Plus i would read as much as u can about sub, go to the health pages here , it is some pretty strong stuff, So DO your reasearch.....If u are just going to keep getting oxy's then getting sick without, u may need treatment..
good luck
let u know what u decide
r2r

[worried878]

I agree with gtm and see it as a short taper to keep u from crashing so hard...it is a good idea i think...i am not sure how much it will help but i do think it will help some...try to spread them out as much as u can...be ready for ur first day with nothing tho and hunker down for close to a week...get your vitamins and supplies stocked up and try to get some time off work if u can...the flu is always a good excuse if u have to call in...main thing is u r moving forward

[Danny179]

just wanted to give a small up date.well here i am now 71 hours with no oxy just 1 perk(tec in me today YES i feel like **** but not like i thought i would in outside doing yard work cutting and raking the grass.I dorealize that perks are still an opiate but this taper is really working and im flushing my system more and more everyday had kinda a rough go gettting to sleep lastnight but FINALLY managed to doze off and slept a solid 8 hours and wheni woke i didnt even feel very bad i waited 1hour before takeing 1 perk now im up and eating and mobile man i feel like a king right now i will try tomorrow not to take anything but just a note if your strong enough to taper with just perk or you have someone at you side to monitor what you take then i strongly feel this is the way to go.thanks everyone for your posts and will be back online periodically to see what ur all up to but right now ive got a lawn deep in grass so im going to kick its *** not CHEERS

[goldenarm]

so how did u end up doing? I did terrible,,my plan  fell to pieces,i have 90 subs now and still have a bunch of oxys of difernent strengths and i hurt again and im back into them but more from wanting to not feel if you will, or feel really good,,im not in the kind of pain that warrants these anymore,,damn
its hard not to take these .

[narkz]

don't feel badly about it.

opiates are designed to do this, it's how the poppy evolved to propagate itself.  give the animal eating the flower a little buzz and the seeds are guaranteed to get spread.

i have taken these things for 6 years *specifically* because they make me feel better.  i've argued w/ ppl who say this is wrong or bad or whatever, but my attitude is that if it doesn't consume your life then it's not the same.  for many people, it will consume them, but for many it won't.

i know how you are feeling; i'd love a pill right now.  don't keep any around.  make it too much trouble to go get them.  let apathy work in your favor.  find something else to do. sooner or later u will figure out that u can live without them.

i really believe in tapering b/c the times i've come off w/ a good taper have been real easy and the turkey times have been hell, and i am probably the lowest dose user on this board.  i stuck to 30mg hydro/day (3 lortabs) off and on for 6 yrs.  even with a dose that most ppl here would laugh at and a habit they wish they had, the w/d still sucks.  i get the same chills, sweats, inability to sleep, etc.  and, yeah, every time i come off and go thru the w/d i swear that i am not goin thru this again, and if a bottle showed up at my door, i'd probably just give in and take one.  

like everyone here I MISS the feeling.  i miss it like we miss ppl we love deeply when they're gone. but these pills make dealing w/ stuff so much easier at first, b/c they take the pain, emotional or physical, away. they really do work.  they really do improve your life for a time but the deal is w/ the devil.  i am typing this w/ chills right now from w/d and i tapered and have been off for over a week.  the cravings creep up at the damndest times

[goldenarm]

You relate really well,your understanding of the big picture is very accurate,I have friends who have taken them for yrs,i have taken them for a couple yrs now and actully function really well,and it takes away alot of stress from what i do at work,it makes things easier,and they make me feel really good most of the time,i eat right,im with my girlfriend,we do great,we own a house together,we make over 6 figures,we are raising a 9 yr old daughter,,we own a nice boat and fish offshore for tuna etc,,we have a good life.Its not good to be dependent on these things,to feel good,and that is what has happened, i still plan to follow thru with my sub detox,but not till next weekend,im gong to enjoy this one.thanks