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How long before I forget the hurt?

by nyychic, Jun 10, 2008 11:45PM
My husband is a recovering drug addict and alcoholic.  I am still really hurt sometimes and I have forgiven him I think but sometimes when we fight it all comes back up and the hurt is right there and he's been sober for 7 years.  Also it's like if he's late I wonder if he's going to slip up, he never has and like I said it's been actually it will be seven years in August.  Does it ever get easier?  Why do I still feel like I was "cheated" out of things because of his drinking/drug use?  I don't want to be this person that is full of anger and hurt but I can't seem to make it go away.  I don't want to hold on to it but I don't know it's almost like it's become who I am.  It seems to define me as clearly as my children define me as a mother his addiction defined me as the wife of a recovering acoholic, an angry bitter wife.  It's not always there and I hide it as much as I can because he does feel guilty about his issues but he did things like get paid and not come home until the next day.  All of his money gone.  It was really heart breaking.  I mean I can remember our first Valentines day he spent his entire paycheck on drinking/drugs, I spent mine on his gift.  I can in my mind usually say okay but you know it was the disease but it's not always so easy and people who have not lived it don't understand.  I am really close to my mother (to the point where she was my maid of honor in my wedding) but she didn't even know.  I didn't tell anyone.  I was ashamed and humiliated.  I still am sometimes and he doesn't want to hear it anymore and I can't blame him, I don't want my mistakes from 7 8 9 10   years ago thrown up around at me either and it's not that I try to throw it in his face.  I don't use it to get what I want from him or anything I just can't seem to forget about it.  Is this normal?  Will it lighten up?  Wiill the feelings around it fade?  I feel like I'm just a bitc@ and I don't want to be like that or to feel like this but it's driving me crazy........Please tell me if your experieces forgetting the hurt is hard,, You don't have to tell me your actual personal story I'm just wondering if the forgetting (or lack there of) is normal?
Member Comments (21)

by jml1986, Jun 11, 2008 10:02PM
Let me say, it is nice to have another person on here that stuck by her husband. I think we are a rare breed.

Now to answer your questions. You will never forget. It is just not possible. Yes, it will get better, no it is not bad that you are having trouble getting over it and when depends on you.

You must remember that it took years of drinking to start this and it may take years for your heart to heal, and unless and until you are ready to move on, it won't happen. This is something that your husband must also know.

You didn't ask to have your life torn apart by drugs and alcohol but you can chose to move forward with your husband now that he is sober. Will it be easy, no, but it can be done. I assume that you and your husband have talked this out and you have agreed to try and forget it so you all can go on with your lives. Now for the hard part, you have to make a conscience choice to not bring it up anymore unless you have reason to believe that he has falling off the wagon.

I know you think it is easier said then done, and you are right. I know all to well what you are going through. That was my life for 20 years. My husband has been sober for 5 years now, and I couldn't be happier. The first couple of years were very hard. I couldn't trust him now matter how he proved to me he had changed. But slowly things did get better. Partly because he has done nothing to make me not trust him, and partly I think because I am old enough to realize that I can be happy, or I can be sad, and it really was up to me. I chose to be happy.

I hope this helps, if you need to talk, I am here for you.

by nyychic, Jun 12, 2008 08:35AM
To: jml1986
Thank you I was starting to feel like I was just being bitter.  The strange thing is that I don't really feel bitter.  Sometimes I feel like I was such a fool not knowing what he was doing but I'm really very naive about drugs.  I don't do them and really never did so I just didn't know anything about them.  I felt like I should have been more aware more somthing.  I am starting to realize that it wouldn't have mattered.  I wouldn't have known because I didn't want to and if I had known I may not have stayed if I realized how bad things were.  I'm glad that I didn't know in many ways.  I am just trying to move past the pain and maybe if I talk to him about it maybe that will help me move past the pain.  I know that I want to make my way out of the fog I had alot of things happen between the last years of his drinking and him quitting.  I lost my step-father (like a father to me) I lost my uncle who was there for us the whole 16 years that my mother was single raising us after my father walked out.  I had three miscarriages and I had 4 children and I just sometimes feel like he missed out on the first few years of our oldest childs life because of it.  It makes me feel bad as a mother at times then reality hits and I realize that I'm only able to be responsible for my actions as his mother etc. It's just that sometimes I try to take on the world ya know.  I am past the trust issues for the most part.  I mean only if he's running really late and I can't get ahold of him.  It's not that I really think that he's going to be out drinking or something but it brings back all the old pain of him being out somewhere and my not knowing or the beginning days when I would track him down at a bar it's just I think it's because I was so young.  I started dating him when I was 18 I'm now almost 30 we are still together and there is probly little that could change that at this point.  I don't feel angry or hurt all of the time but I do have the feelings still and it just seems like my "timeline" is up I should have let it go but I don't really know how to.  It's like it just creeps up on me sometimes.  I try not thinking about it but that would mean I would have to forget our first 7 or 8 years and then that could make things bad!! LOL my sons birth and all I don't know I just need to pull myself out of the gray area's and be happy that he's sober and I am I really am I couldn't have stayed if he was still doing the drugs because he would spend every penny he had on it and I couldnt' afford to support me our children him and his drugs so I am SO happy that he's sober I just have to find a way to make it all even out I guess.  It's been almost as long sober as the time we spent together while he was drinking/drugging.  I do believe that people walk out to early in many cases and I want to make this work out.  I am really proud of him that he's come so far.  I really am.  I'm not all ashamed of the fact that he's a recovering addict I'm more ashamed of the part that I played in it but not knowing.  However, if I had given him the ulimatam (spelling is horrible I'm sorry) back then he wouldn't have chosen us so it was all the right timing and I am happy about that I guess I have to learn that we live with the "coulda beens" and realize that he has done it and I didnt' have the horrible bouts of depression from him he was happy after the first couple of weeks.  I know that I'm lucky for all that he's done I just need to inform my heart!!  Thanks for the support and for listening to me moan and groan!!  I am happy a good 95% of the time I just get a little down now and then about it all!

by jml1986, Jun 12, 2008 12:58PM
To: nyychic
It is hard to keep those old thoughts for creeping back in. In fact I think it is impossible to keep them from creeping back. But, I know that is human nature so I don't beat myself up when I have those thoughts. We all wish we knew what our lives could have been if it was not filled with the addiction, but then would we be the people we are now? I don't think so. I learned to become very self sufficient because I had to, I learned that I am strong, because I had noone to lean on and I learned to be a great mom, because I had to be two parents for all those years. Yes, I was angry for being put in those positions, but now I know that it has made me who I am today.

Yes, I do wish that my children would have had a better father when they were growing up, sadly we can't change their past, but we can change their future. They now have a great father who when he knew better, he started doing better. Sometimes I even have to remind him that he can't change is past. There are times when I see him look sad and he his thinking about how things used to be and he gets so upset with himself. I don't try to stop his thinking about it because he has to go through that process to totally heal. But I do tell him it is okay to be sad about your past, as long as you don't let yourself drown in it.

I had alot of things go on when my husband was drinking as well, it was hard to go through them alone. He was there, but he wasn't really there. I lost several family members, the worst was when I lost my father. There are times when I think about my dad and I think about when he passed away, and I remember how alone I felt. These are the times that I have trouble with. Part of me would just love to scream at him and ask him how he could have let me go through it be myself, but the other part of me says, do you really think it would have helped. The answer is, I don't think so. The loss of a loved one is such a personal feeling, that I don't think there would have been anything he could have done even if he were sober.

I guess what I have learned more then anything is that, that was our past, and we can not change, or hide it, so I try to live everyday knowing how lucky we are to be one of the couples who's marriage did survive it and has grown stronger in spite of it.

by LORDINEEDHELP, Jun 12, 2008 02:44PM
To: nyychic
as i sit here and read all your comments it brings tears to my eyes to know that what im going through right now in a marriage of 18 years  sadens me to know i might not get rid of the feelings of anger resentment and sometime the hatefull things i feel now may not go away i to made the decision to stick by my husband yet i cant tell you iv enjoyed any of  it i honesty look up to you for sticking by your husband and i can relate to how you feel yet my husband is not recovering he is right in the middle of denial and it has caused me great pain not to mention depression anaxiety and my view on things has so changed my life and i wonder if i will ever be the same i to hurt and i tend to bring things up from time to time to maybe hurt him like he has hurt me yet it does not work and it actually makes it worse for me in the long run  im sorry your feeling like you cant put things in the past hopefully things will get better for you and how you feel stay strong you have made it this far and i my self admire you for it your strength shows
if you want to talk some more please just let me know i will say a prayer for you and your family that you stay strong .

by nyychic, Jun 12, 2008 03:03PM
To: LORDINEEDHELP
You are in the middle of the worst of it.  What I am going through is so much easier than the "drunken" days.  I mean yeah I still feel bitter and I go through phases of sadness and anger but it doesn't take over my life.  I lived wondering all the time if my husband was going to spend the grocery money, diaper money, rent money etc. on his problem.  You can make it through this you just need to find what makes him hear you.  I don't know what that is but I will pray for you

by jml1986, Jun 12, 2008 03:24PM
To: LORDINEDHELP
First let me say, I am sooo sorry for the pain you are in right now. Deciding to stay with your husband is a tough choice to make. What you are going through now is what all of us who have chosen to ride it out have gone. The hurt, the pain and the anger are something that we all have felt at one time or another. Thankfully if you are lucky to have a spouse that choses to get sober, these feelings will fade. They may never go away, but you do learn on to go on and put it in the back of you mind. It will not be easy, and for you it may be a while before you are at this point, but it will get better.

Please know that I am here if you need someone to talk to.

by LORDINEEDHELP, Jun 14, 2008 10:50AM
To: jm1986 / nyychic
thanks so much for responding latley i dont feel strong anymore, more worn down trying to convince myself maybe this is worth the pain yet the anger and the resentment is overwhelming and hate full things overwhelm me im depressed all the time and being threatened all the time that he will leave me is pissing me off let the fool leave i can say honestly no one else would put up with him like i have he claims im his world yet im never a choice or an option just a last bit effort after the alachol is gone or when i freak out and just loose parts of my heart daily i blame hus actions on me and i know this is wrong yet he makes me feel worthless to the point of me wanting to not feel this hurt any more lashing out and hurting my self in the process is painfull and im not really sure i can continue hurting tjhis bad makes me very uneasy and scared of myself and my actions i do have a counselor yet i cant go everyday yet she is a eye opener not only for my self but for hubby as well at least i got his *** to go with me well sorry i did not mean to rattle thanks for yiur kind words and support it is needed and greatly appreciated

by jml1986, Jun 14, 2008 11:53AM
To: LORDINNEEDHELP
I know what you are going through hun. I walked in those shoes for 20 yrs. I was always depressed and unhappy. Just when I would think that I could take no more, something would happen and I was strong again, even if I didn't want to be. How many days and nights I would think if you want out just go, I can make it without you because I am doing it now. But that never happend, he stayed and I stayed, and things just stayed the way they were year after year. Funny when I finally decided that I had had enough, there was no fight, there was no anger, it was me looking him directly in the eye (which was a first in a long time) and saying, you get help or get out. I had went out of town for the weekend, and he had to decided by the time I got home. I don't really know if that is what made him decide to get help, or if he was finally ready, but whatever it was, it was the best thing that has ever happened for us. He is finally the man I married again, and thankfully, he has had no desire to ever go back to that life. Not that him getting sober was easy for us either, because it wasn't, but at least then it was a fight worth fighting.

I hope someday that you will be blessed enough to have your husband back. But no matter what happens, I am here for you.

by nyychic, Jun 14, 2008 08:02PM
I had sort of the same situation come about only I was working second shift and I got home early only to find out he was late to pick  our kids up from my mother.  So I called and told my mom not to let him take the kids until I spoke with him.  He had already spent time in jail and lost his license temporarily and got it back he called me when he got to my moms and I knew right away he'd been drinking and I just snapped.  I couldnt' believe it he had wrecked so many cars while with his ex and he was going to put my babies in rist because of HIS addiction.  NO WAY.My claws came out.  I had hit a wall and there was no going back I told him to wait there for me.  I packed up the baby's bassinet and our sons clothes and some of mine and moved out.  I stayed with my mom for a week.  That was my husbands last drink (other than one slip up he stopped and got a beer and he took a drink and it gagged him) that was the end of it.  I got lucky, he got lucky.  I don't know if it always works the whole ultimatum it did in my case.  I wish you luck and I know what it's like humiliating and depressing and just miserable and then there are good times and it seems like things are okay then the drunken nights.  It will only get better when he stops drinking.  I wish you all the luck and you are in my prayers.

by peggy64, Jun 14, 2008 08:11PM
YOu are in a place that only God and His grace and favor can help give you strength. I would like to recommend to you a book, by joyce meyer...Battlefield of the mind. It is such an amazing book, that I keep it and reread some chapters from it frequently. Also stay in the Word. It gives an unexplainable strength.

Your name says Lord I need help....He says: trust in me with all your heart, lean not on your understanding. In all your ways acknowledge me and I will direct your paths.

Draw strength from Him, when yours is gone........