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do I have CHF?

by fennell, Jun 17, 2008 03:27PM
Hello,
I have been suffering from edema for the last 2 months and went to the urologist thinking it was a stone blockage. All labs say that my kidneys and liver are functioning OK.
My other symptoms are shortness of breath, chest pains, unexplained weight gain, abdominal distention and choking/coughing during the night.
Went to the cardio for stress test and echo. Waiting for the results. If its not my heart, why am I retaining this water? So much of it, that I had to buy new shoes? Ive had edema off and on for years now due to the kidney stones and salt intake. I am careful with salt to avoid more stones. Even if I need support hose, where is this fluid coming from?
Is it the heart?
thanks
Member Comments (8)

by kenkeith, Jun 17, 2008 04:31PM
To: fennell
You have all the symptoms of congested heart failure  When there is CHF the cardiac output is reduced.  The system reacts as if the system is losing blood.  The endothelium cells (lining of vessels) react to low cardiac output and sends a message to the kidneys to increase blood volume.  Vessels constrict in an attempt to save from any further loss of blood.  Heart rate goes up to increase the blood supply.  More volume, constricted blood vessels, increased heart rate, etc. places more stress on an already weakened heart.

Four years ago, I was admiitted to ER for the same symptoms and then to ICU for several days.  I am surprised you weren't hospitalized to reduce fluids, etc. to give your heart some relief and time to recover from a couple of months of stress with edema.

by Momto3, Jun 17, 2008 06:15PM
I'm so sorry you have been dealing with edema and the other symptoms you described.  Certainly, you must be tired and worn down.  

You did the right thing by checking in with your doctor.  Hopefully, the tests will reveal what is going on and you can begin earnest treatment soon.  Are you currently taking a diuretic (water pill)?  Assuming this is CHF, and it does sound as though it very well could be, your doctor may start you on a number of helpful cardio meds (beta blocker, ACE inhibitor, diuretic).  When will you have your results?

by fennell, Jun 18, 2008 08:53AM
To: Momto3
Hello,
Thanks for responding. Its great that I have you all out there to give me advice.
The cardio office said it could be a week until the results (tomorrow) and if it was urgent, they would have called right away.
No news is good news, I am hoping. But as I read other posts, some have the same symptoms as I do, but the docs cant find the source.
Regarding the diuretic pills, my primary prescribed them to me weeks ago. He also said to wear support hose, and that my veins arent working as well as they use to. Well duh! We know that, but wheres the fluid coming from.
I am the least vain person, and not worried about how it looks! I wanna know why Ive gained weight all because of fluid. Makes sense, right?
Well, I havent taken the pills, because after I left the office, I thought it wasnt a good idea since I have kidney stones. Summer + water pills = dehydration. (not a good move). I think the primary forgot that I have stones....
So, off to the urologist I went. At the office, he was VERY concerned that it was the heart, and called the cardio from his office. He wanted them to see me right away.
So, thats where I am now. Waiting.....all the signs lead to CHF. I wish it wasnt, and they call me and tell me all is fine, and that Im just getting chunky.  (but we all agree its water, docs and all)

by Momto3, Jun 18, 2008 09:01AM
To: fennel
Please let us know how you're doing.  We'll worry if we don't hear from you : )

by fennell, Jun 18, 2008 09:04AM
To: kenkeith
Hello!
That must have been very frightening. So why did they keep you in ICU? Just to keep you monitored, or to reduce fluids? There are so many variables under the CHF umbrella, what was your dx exactly?
I knew an 80ish year old that was hospitalized for 3 weeks because they found clots behind the heart. She was admitted for CHF, but wouldnt let her go home in fear that she would have another mini stroke. Some days, I wish I would have just went to the ER at the beginning, so that I could get results back sooner. I am assuming at this point, that the first look at the ECHO and the stress test didnt reveal anything urgent. And that if there is anything wrong with my heart, it is either minor, or totally fine.
Tell me more about edema. How much damage/strain does edema put onto your body? By the end of the day, I have no ankles and my toes are the size of sausage links. (sorry for the visual) the VERY scary part, is that I can actually now feel a rift 2/3 rds up to my knee where the water level is. Can you believe that? Its weird. To me, that is way too much fluid! I have NEVER heard of anyone having edema up that far without it being a major issue. Reminder -I eat minimal salt because of the kidneys.
Any other medical info regarding edema would be appreciated:)

by fennell, Jun 18, 2008 01:47PM
To: Momto3
Hello!

Just got the report back.....my heart is normal :)
But why do I still have swelling, water retention, abdominal ditention, and choking at night?
Any thoughts?

by Momto3, Jun 18, 2008 02:23PM
Hmmmm.......Any chance it is a reaction to one of your medications?  What does your internist think is going on?  I'm wondering about thyroid?  Have you had that checked?  It can whack out your metabolic system and cause weight gain.

GREAT news on the report!!!

by fennell, Jun 19, 2008 07:17AM
To: Momto3