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No gall bladder but excruciating pain

by Batin, Jun 21, 2008 03:35AM
Ten years ago my gall bladder (and a large stone) was removed. Since then, however, at least twice a year
I have an excruciating attack of the same symptoms that had manifested prior to the operation. (The first began just
6 weeks after the operation, and I'd hardly eaten a thing.)

I made radical changes to my diet, avoiding fatty and junk foods, and when I stick to that I have no problem.
But on the rare occasion when I eat, for instance, high-fat cheese, bread, or fried foods over a period of a week or so, I have an 'attack' that leaves me nauseous, debilitated and weak for at least 4-5 days. First the pain in the abdomen region that spreads to the back and right shoulder (and it's almost impossible to breathe). After an hour or two this subsides, leaving me nauseous. After another couple of hours I can sleep, but then awaken with every joint in my body aching (I expect this is 'radial' pain), and feel quite feverish and chilled at the same time. I can do nothing but stay in bed for 1-2 days, getting up only to go to the toilet and have a glass of water. Eating is out of the question for at least 4 days, and then I can begin with applesauce and no-fat yoghurt.

It's clear that what I eat plays an essential role: i.e. no fatty foods = no pain. However, I'm puzzled as to why I get symptoms identical to the ones I had before the gall bladder was removed.

Can anyone shed any light on this?

Thank you.

Batin
Member Comments (6)

by nyychic, Jun 21, 2008 08:00AM
Sounds to me like you have Acid Refulx have you talked to your doctor?  Try to get some prevacid or nexium for daily use if you can't then you can get zantac over the counter or the other product which the name is escaping me at the moment...... it will probly come to me b4 I post this or just after lol it's all over the television though.  Also Acifex (I think it's a prescription) works fast in an attack.  They are the best  the nexium works great for me the prevacid for my mom the aciphex (I think it's ph not f ????) works the best in a pinch for us both.  Good luck

by nyychic, Jun 21, 2008 08:00AM
OH YEAH!!  priloec OTC

by stacey555, Jun 21, 2008 08:08AM
To: nyychic
Just because you dont have a gallbladder you can still have stones,I have the same thing.  When I have attacks it feels the same way I did prior to gallbladder removal.  Do some research, from what Ive read the liver was the problem in th e first place and still is.  I believe you can still have stones but they get lodged in the common biliary duct now instead of the gallbladder and they will pass I think.

by Batin, Jun 21, 2008 05:21PM
Thank you both for your input. (-:
Very useful.
Now I'll do some more research.

by Batin, Jun 22, 2008 01:27AM
After being pointed in the direction of the common biliary duct, I spent time last night
researching online. It sounds very much like that's my problem. I'll follow up on this. I'll also adhere more rigidly to a healthy diet and will look at alternative treatment. I've already had excellent results with acupuncture/Chinese medicine for another issue, so I'll discuss this one as well with my Chinese doctor.
(For years my 'normal' GP has simply told me he doesn't know what the problem could be. He never, ever mentioned the biliary duct possibility. In fact, I've just remembered that last year when I was receiving acupuncture for pain in my feet, the Chinese doctor just happened to mention that he suspected I had a problem with my liver. I was surprised, since to my knowledge my liver had never given me any trouble!
Now of course I can see the connection. Amazing that he could pick up on the liver, even though he was treating me for something entirely unrelated!)

by stacey555, Jun 22, 2008 08:46AM
To: Batin
My friends often say I am smarter than most doctors, medical stuff comes easy for me and Ive had everything wrong with me you could possibly have.  Im glad I could help point you in the right direction.  Look into liver detoxing.
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