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plavix and dementia
by RAWINA, Jul 04, 2008 03:43PM
Plavix and Dementia in the Elderly
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RAWINA
Member since Sep 2006
, Jun 24, 2008 04:17PM
Tags: Plavix, dementia, elderly
Can Plavix contribute to confusion and forgetfulness in the elderly?
Synopsis:
Every time Plavix is removed from my mother-in-law in order to perform a surgical-type procedure, her cognition improves dramatically (at least from my point of view from halfway across the country, "popping in" from time to time by telephone.
History and Detail:
My mother-in-law is 84 years old and living near her daughter in a nursing home in Boulder, Colorado, a very dry climate with thin air. About 20 years ago she had a moderately severe stroke that left her with a slight limp. About 12 years ago she started taking synthroid after having para-thyroid surgery. About 10 years ago she had a serious heart episode that resulted in the installation of a pace-maker (non-defibrillating). She has been getting confused and forgetful for the last few years but was living on her own in northern Minnesota up to about 2 years ago when she went to visit her daughter in Boulder for Thanksgiving. While there, she had multiple stents inserted in her heart during an angioplasty and was put on Plavix. Her confusion was worse. A few days later, while still recovering from her stay in the hospital, she fell at her daughter's home, breaking her trochanter (the top of the large, upper leg bone (the femur) where it goes into the hip). This was repaired with pins. A few months later, after becoming mobile again, she developed a compression fracture in her 2nd lumbar vertebra which had no discernible, direct cause (she is very osteoporotic). A kyphoplasty was done (balloons and cement are inserted to prop up and fixate the break, a little more ambitious than a vertebralplasty and requiring a hospital stay). A few weeks later there was another, spontaneous compression fracture and kyphoplasty at L3. A few weeks later there was yet another compression fracture and kyphoplasty, skipping a vertebra this time, in the last thoracic vertebra T12(?). (Apparently, two fractures after an initial kyphoplasty are not that unusual.)
My observation:
Every time my mother-in-law is admitted to the hospital for one of these procedures she is taken off Plavix and must wait a few days for it to leave her body before they can go ahead, to reduce the possibility of excessive bleeding. This is the only major thing to change for her while she is waiting for the procedure. She stays on all her other meds, including pain meds. And, every time, she returns to her "old self", becoming much more lucid, her memory improving dramatically (at least from my point of view from halfway across the country, "popping in" from time to time by telephone). After resuming the Plavix and returning to the nursing home, she is always back to being forgetful and confused. This dementia is the worst detractor from her quality of life and has made my sister consider the advice of the nursing home, to put my mother-in-law in hospice care (in other words, a "death watch").
The problem:
I would like to do a short experiment by taking my mother-in-law off Plavix for a few days while she is in her normal living conditions at the nursing home. However, I have not seen dementia listed in any materials related to Plavix, so no one caring for my mother-in-law takes this idea seriously.
Does anyone have any experience with this situation? Could it be dangerous to take her off the Plavix for a few days? Are there any substitutes for Plavix that might work better?
by RAWINA
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RAWINA
Member since Sep 2006
, Jun 24, 2008 04:17PM
Tags: Plavix, dementia, elderly
Can Plavix contribute to confusion and forgetfulness in the elderly?
Synopsis:
Every time Plavix is removed from my mother-in-law in order to perform a surgical-type procedure, her cognition improves dramatically (at least from my point of view from halfway across the country, "popping in" from time to time by telephone.
History and Detail:
My mother-in-law is 84 years old and living near her daughter in a nursing home in Boulder, Colorado, a very dry climate with thin air. About 20 years ago she had a moderately severe stroke that left her with a slight limp. About 12 years ago she started taking synthroid after having para-thyroid surgery. About 10 years ago she had a serious heart episode that resulted in the installation of a pace-maker (non-defibrillating). She has been getting confused and forgetful for the last few years but was living on her own in northern Minnesota up to about 2 years ago when she went to visit her daughter in Boulder for Thanksgiving. While there, she had multiple stents inserted in her heart during an angioplasty and was put on Plavix. Her confusion was worse. A few days later, while still recovering from her stay in the hospital, she fell at her daughter's home, breaking her trochanter (the top of the large, upper leg bone (the femur) where it goes into the hip). This was repaired with pins. A few months later, after becoming mobile again, she developed a compression fracture in her 2nd lumbar vertebra which had no discernible, direct cause (she is very osteoporotic). A kyphoplasty was done (balloons and cement are inserted to prop up and fixate the break, a little more ambitious than a vertebralplasty and requiring a hospital stay). A few weeks later there was another, spontaneous compression fracture and kyphoplasty at L3. A few weeks later there was yet another compression fracture and kyphoplasty, skipping a vertebra this time, in the last thoracic vertebra T12(?). (Apparently, two fractures after an initial kyphoplasty are not that unusual.)
My observation:
Every time my mother-in-law is admitted to the hospital for one of these procedures she is taken off Plavix and must wait a few days for it to leave her body before they can go ahead, to reduce the possibility of excessive bleeding. This is the only major thing to change for her while she is waiting for the procedure. She stays on all her other meds, including pain meds. And, every time, she returns to her "old self", becoming much more lucid, her memory improving dramatically (at least from my point of view from halfway across the country, "popping in" from time to time by telephone). After resuming the Plavix and returning to the nursing home, she is always back to being forgetful and confused. This dementia is the worst detractor from her quality of life and has made my sister consider the advice of the nursing home, to put my mother-in-law in hospice care (in other words, a "death watch").
The problem:
I would like to do a short experiment by taking my mother-in-law off Plavix for a few days while she is in her normal living conditions at the nursing home. However, I have not seen dementia listed in any materials related to Plavix, so no one caring for my mother-in-law takes this idea seriously.
Does anyone have any experience with this situation? Could it be dangerous to take her off the Plavix for a few days? Are there any substitutes for Plavix that might work better?
Member Comments (1)
by margypops, Jul 04, 2008 10:41PM
To: Rawina
I have heard also that it can cause some fogetfulness even in younger people, it is good of you to care enough So many times these care homes want to take the easy route, if she is taken off Plavix you should ask the Doc first and how to do it, I am sure you do it very slowly because of side effectsand withdrawal, . Go with your Gut feeling on this I think you are spot on in your assumptions.she will be so much happier.
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