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Worried about all this talk

by Coolio Hernendez, Jul 22, 2008 05:59PM
I am starting to really worry.....I keep seeing these posts from people who are taking pain meds...Then get a random test (urine) and fail...I assume that means that there is none in your system and you are selling them...

Are these people really selling ?

Are they doing them to fast and are running out early ?

I have run out early so when i go back in 7 days, if they test me then i would come up negetive...
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by Melissa70817, Jul 22, 2008 06:11PM
I have run out early also but my doc never tests me.  The first time I had heard of being tested to make sure the drugs are in your system is when I came to this site.  I'm not saying that he won't later, I've been seeing him for a little over 4 years and he has never tested me to see if I am taking my pain meds.  
I would guess in your case, when you see you are beginning to run out, call your doctor and be honest telling him/her that you've taken more than you should because your pain was unbearable and have them call you in a new script.
I have called my doc for a new script and he does it no problem but I hate to do it more than once a year, it just makes me feel like he will think I'm abusing my meds although some here will think that taking more than what the bottle says is abusing.  

by Mollyrae, Jul 22, 2008 06:11PM
Yes you will. It takes appro. 3 days for the narcs. to leave your system. Coolio- Please do as the Dr. asks. It will be horrible if you are cut off from the only relief you get. Just think how hard it will be to find another Dr. who will treat you with a medical record stating your abusing your meds...................Mollyrae

by Melissa70817, Jul 22, 2008 06:12PM
oh, and no, I don't sell my prescription, they are too precious to me!!!

by Tuckamore, Jul 22, 2008 07:10PM
Early on there was a time when I would run out and I was afraid to tell my doctor. But she is wise and asked me questions about my pain control. She said she was sorry that she was not allowing me enough or the right strength to contol my pain. She also asked me to tell her in the future when I was running out or trying to stretch my pain meds. I am extremly lucky to have a doc like her and because of that I encourge you to be honest with you doc. Maybe you should tell him/her that you are running out before it is time for a refill. I have never had a drug test (other than for a job) and reading all these "failed tests" have scared me a bit too. I plan on discussing it with my doc. Tuck

by Toomanyadvil, Jul 23, 2008 10:21AM
I agree with all, defenitly talk with your doc.  
I'm sure it causes you so much anxiety when you run out because you have no more pain control until you see your doc. They may be very understanding and help you to find a better dose to control your pain so you wont have to run out early.
The more honest your able to be with your doc, the more understanding they usually are. And then you dont have to worry about getting a UA.
Of course all this talk about UA's coming up clean when they shouldnt is defenitly scary. But I just try to think that this doesnt happen all the time to everyone. Its upsetting for the people that have to go through something like that, but its not extreamly common to have a clean UA when you your taking pain meds.
So as long as you talk to your doc about having to take more when the pain is really bad and you figure out a solution so it doesnt happen you wont have to worry.
We all have enough to worry about every day, we dont need to add the fear of having a UA done.

TMA

by Coolio Hernendez, Jul 23, 2008 03:23PM
To: All
Thanx everyone.....I called the office today and told the nurse that i had run out 5 days early....She asked if they were lost or stolen and i said no....and that it looked like i had taken 5 a day instead of 4 a day for a while.......I have just started with this doctor so i hope he will chalk it up to the dosage not right...This is the 1 st months worth he has given me the last time it was 2 weeks worth...and that worked out real close...

I have appointment at 11:30am tomorrow....I am hoping all will go well...I will be super honest.

by Mollyrae, Jul 23, 2008 05:16PM
Good luck Coolio. I'm sure everything will be alright. Let us know how it went. Take care,    Mollyrae

by extrmeski, Jul 23, 2008 06:53PM
Good luck, I got kicked out of Pain Management for coming up negative, but the funny thing was I was positive for the patches and I read the results, I was at predictive levels.  But I blanked on the percocets.  Funny thing though the percs were "as needed" so why did I get kicked out? I wasn't selling anything, I wouldn't know how to if I wanted to!  LOL.
Seriously good luck, if this is your first time they will warn you.

by Tuckamore, Jul 23, 2008 08:30PM
To: Coolie
It's difficult when you are seeing a new doc and haven't had time to build the trust. I still would be honest and tell the doc the reason you took more was because you needed them. Hopefully your new medical provider will undertand you have pain and you will begin to build trust. Please keep us posted. The Best to You, Tuck

by Toomanyadvil, Jul 24, 2008 12:51AM
Sometimes the initial dose a new PM gives you is just a trial to see how it controls your pain. Sometimes they know they will probably have to raise it.
all docs are different but all of them appriciate honesty.

I cant believe extremski that you got terminatted for an as needed script!

by Brokemom, Jul 24, 2008 01:26AM
The only time I come up short on my pain meds is after I have been on them for a long period of time.  I tell my doctor when I am having to take more than perscribed.
He will never call in a script of pain meds. I have to go in to see him before he will either up the dose or give a new med. I have never been drug tested either, even tho I know that is a possibility.  I had to sign a contract with him before he would even see me and I have to reread it every six months in his office, just a reminder they say. :)
I would not every sell my pain meds, I need the meds worse than I would need the money.

by Toomanyadvil, Jul 24, 2008 04:21AM
I think your DR's idea about having you reread the contract every 6months is great.
I wouldnt mind taking a look at my contract. I was in so much pain when I signed it I cant really remember exactly what my DR's said. I know the general rules but wonder sometimes if there is something more I've forgotten about!



by Coolio Hernendez, Jul 24, 2008 06:09AM
To: All
You guys all help so much....My app is in 4 hrs......I will post results when i get back....

Keep your fingers crossed for me....I am in the 1st stages of withdrawals and it *****...I am gonna keep that on the DL while im in his office..

by Coolio Hernendez, Jul 24, 2008 01:26PM
To: All
Well i just got back.....They gave me my script for next week...dated for next Thursday and a script for 42 Tramadol.....

So i quess thats better then nothing....She said this time it wont really get held against me but not to have it happen again.....I agreed and said ...Thank you.

So the Tramadol is helping with the W/Ds alot....

by sandee1818, Jul 24, 2008 01:29PM
I am glad it worked out for you!

by extrmeski, Jul 24, 2008 07:23PM
Yeah I'm glad they did something for you.  Yeah I cant believe I got kicked out either, the cod Iwas seening left the practive and the other doc was terrible.  I was looking for another doc anyway I just hope that getting kicked out won't mess me up with the new doc.  The really stupid thing was for the past 3 months I told them that Iwas getting used to the dosage and I needed an adjustment.  They wouldn't listen.  Heck if I was selling them, they started me out on perc 10's and I was the one telling them that it was too strong and went to 7.5's, I would have stayed with the 10's?

by Toomanyadvil, Jul 25, 2008 02:05AM
Coolio I'm so gald they helped you out with something. They did seem to understand so thats good. Tramadol is pretty good for short term use. It doesnt work for everyone but may get you through for a short time. And it will defenotly keep you from withdrawls!
Sometimes its easier to cope if you know that you have the medication you wil need and can sill it in a week or so.
Let us know how your doing on it this week.

Extremski I wouldnt think that it should effects treatment from another doc if you explain it was an as needed script. Just let them know it was written that way so why would it have to come up?
Sometimes we defenitly see things as common sense and docs dont. Exactly what your saying, why would we ask for less if were selling our medication? It woudnt make sense. But I think because of how the PM's are regulated they cant afford to over look anything so everybody is at least some bit of suspect no matter what. Some are just really thougher and more strict than others. Maybe your doc had been investigated in the past and so is extra careful about things.
I like my PM alot. But she is really strict and defenitly keeps a close eye on all her patients.
Are you trying to find a new PM now?

TMA