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SO confused-opinions PLEASE =(
by JennViv, Jul 23, 2008 06:59PM
I have been TTC for a LONG time now and finally sat down for a consult with the RE today after months of trying and thinking we would decide on a lap....
well i met with the RE today and i'm more confused than ever. He said he's not pushing for the lap but he was explaining it to me in case i wanted to do it. He said the odds of him finding anything wrong yield very low in his mind. He said he thinks if he goes in he won't find anything wrong. I am TERRIFIED to get put under and he said because of that he probably wouldn't push me to it seeing as he has no reason to believe anythings wrong.
He said usually if he sees something weird on the Hysterosalpingogram (spelling is probably wrong)...the dye test...or if i had symptoms, he would be more apt to push me in that direction.
I'm so confused...he said sometimes even if there isn't anything wrong with women when he does the lap, by "blowing" the tubes it clears everything and women end up pregnant a lot faster sometimes. He said in my situation if he goes in and finds nothing wrong, he would suggest IVF...if it's really bad, he would say IVF...and usually if its mild, he will clear it out but it probably isn't the cause of the infertility.
OR he said i can stay on the injectibles, and to make them last longer he can mix those with the femara/clomid...and continue with iui...OR i can jump into IVF. BUT again, he said he's not really pushing for it b.c i don't present with any symptoms and text book speaking, we should be pregnant....
Im so confused i don't know what to do!!!!!! anyone have opinions on this?
well i met with the RE today and i'm more confused than ever. He said he's not pushing for the lap but he was explaining it to me in case i wanted to do it. He said the odds of him finding anything wrong yield very low in his mind. He said he thinks if he goes in he won't find anything wrong. I am TERRIFIED to get put under and he said because of that he probably wouldn't push me to it seeing as he has no reason to believe anythings wrong.
He said usually if he sees something weird on the Hysterosalpingogram (spelling is probably wrong)...the dye test...or if i had symptoms, he would be more apt to push me in that direction.
I'm so confused...he said sometimes even if there isn't anything wrong with women when he does the lap, by "blowing" the tubes it clears everything and women end up pregnant a lot faster sometimes. He said in my situation if he goes in and finds nothing wrong, he would suggest IVF...if it's really bad, he would say IVF...and usually if its mild, he will clear it out but it probably isn't the cause of the infertility.
OR he said i can stay on the injectibles, and to make them last longer he can mix those with the femara/clomid...and continue with iui...OR i can jump into IVF. BUT again, he said he's not really pushing for it b.c i don't present with any symptoms and text book speaking, we should be pregnant....
Im so confused i don't know what to do!!!!!! anyone have opinions on this?
Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
I am just so confused with all of this and was like a blubbering 2 year old at the RE office today....it's just so hard to know you are right down to the wire and have to make a decision like this. Some things i have read so far say that for IVF, the advances with it are so good now that most women don't need a lap prior to it...i don't know how true this is.
Her findings are that there were two studies done. One study showed that after a lap, IF they found endo and they removed it, the chances of you getting pregnant goes up by 5% and the endo comes back after one year.
Another study found that endo has no relevance on IF.
There are some statics that indicate that something like 40% of women have endo - most of them/us just don't know it. So, you can also conclude that if endo=IF, there would more far more IF in this world.
My RE left the decision to me as well and also has indicated that the chances of her finding anything (with me) is very low.
Being that lap is a surgery and based on the two research, I opted not to. Bottom line for me was that having the lap does not guarantee success.
I hope this helps a little.
Then I look at my aunt who had a normal healthy baby at my age (27)...and years later, now in her 50's, they went in and found endo so bad that they did a hysterectomy (she signed off on this due to her age/not wanting further problems)....HOWEVER she almost died during this operation...her heart stopped & she was "brought back"...another aunt recently died after a knee surgery she had a blood clot when she stood up and died...
I hate to sound selfish but theres so many reasons i am worried about this...
I am 22 (almost 23) with PCOS and ENDO. It took several years to get diagnosed with both as all the symptoms I was having and all the docs (usually male) not thinking anything was wrong with me... The first lap was severe endo, cysts and all the good stuff. I was 18 and had 1/2 of my right ovary removed. It's still functional most of the time.
So far I have had 4 laps done. 3 of the 4 I was at normal weight for my height. The fourth which was done in Jan. I am a little overweight - could lose about 27 to get back to pre preggo size (2years ago!). Anyways, My third lap I had done because I had been ttc to no success. I had that lap done in March of 2006, tried natural that month (nothing) then saw an RE for the first time in the beginning of April 2006. I did no meds (okay, just vitamins and progesterone supp after O) but nothing like clomid etc. He did IUI and I got p/g right away. He was born in Dec. 2006.
We have now been trying again for over a year.... taking clomid, femara with trigger shots etc... I have been pregnant once that ended in an early m/c. I have done probably a total of 10 IUI's, and somehow we just keep trucking along. This past consult with my RE, he doesn't know why the IUI's aren't working. On paper everything is perfect and I should have gotten pregnant with every IUI. So, here we are. I'm doing no meds this cycle but still going to do an IUI.
Anyways, instead of telling you my whole life story I will get to the point I wanted to make! When I finally got diagnosed with endo that was Severe - and I had many symptoms and huge family history.
There are women I know who have NO SYMPTOMS at all and decided that getting a lap, maybe they could find answers. They had severe endo. They say that 1/2 of women with severe endo won't experience any symptoms because of the location (could be on nerves blocking pain receptors) and the other 1/2 with sever endo will experience symptoms. I can understand your reasons for not wanting a surgery, and the decision is completely up to you.
Whatever you decide I will be here for you :)
If you have any questions or just need to talk, send a message and I will be happy to help in any way possible.
Hugs and Good Luck :)
dnikki0928 - did you have any different complications since you said your last lap you were a little heavier? Thats my fear since i'm alot heavier than 9 years ago.
This may be TMI but my husband says that maybe i have endo b.c sometimes it is painful during BD & i've read that could be a symptom - don't know how true that is....but it's been that way for years...along with cramps/backaches during AF....SO
I appreciate the support from you ladies while i blabber on and on about this!! =)