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Palps/Bending over

by finetilthree, Dec 28, 2006 12:00AM
Does anyone know why bending over at the waist brings on PACs or PVCs?  Seems like almost every time I bend over to pick up something off the floor I get a burst of PACs when I stand up.  It is freaking me out.  Also happens if I sit or lay down too quickly.  Please help.
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by iAmEllen, Dec 28, 2006 12:00AM
It's very common but I don't know the reason.  Hopefully someone else will.

by CollegeGirl143, Dec 28, 2006 12:00AM
its because of the change in blood flow and volume in your body... When standing up the heart has to work harder to pump the blood throughout the body, when you bend over, the upper body is at or below the heart level, so gravity does the work for the heart in this case., and bending also bends the blood vessels inside your body, so there is more blood in the lower part of the body. When you stand up, gravity becomes the enemy, and is pulling the blood towards the lower parts of your body, and your heart has to pump harder to move the blood through the vessels.. It sounds complicated but its a simple concept. This is also why people have increased pvc's after eating. Blood flows to the stomach and intestines to help with digestion, this shift in blood flow has an effect on the heart, making it work harder, which is why some people experience pvc's during this time.. Alot of these questions have already been addressed.. If you want to take some time and look through the archives, you might learn alot.

by finetilthree, Dec 28, 2006 12:00AM
Why did it take 35 years for this to start happening?

by kucycoo, Dec 28, 2006 12:00AM
Just wanted to let you know you are not alone.  I get that "flip flop" feeling of the heart too when bending over.  Not always, but frequently.

by iAmEllen, Dec 28, 2006 12:00AM
Who knows why, finetilthree.  Most of us never know why our palpitations begin or flare up.



My grandpa who is in such great shape that he still bikes 60 miles a day is 80 years old.  He started having PVCs for the first time in his life last year.  They did a cath and every test they could think of any found absolutely nothing.



Seems to largely be a mystery for most of us.  Frustrating for sure.  How old are you?  Hormonal changes and menopause seem to trigger them sometimes.  Mine can go crazy during PMS.

by finetilthree, Dec 28, 2006 12:00AM
To: iAMEllen
I am 35 years old and this started 8 months ago after I had my third child. Now it happens every single day and I am just at the end of my rope.  I want my old life back and I am completely at the freakin end of my rope.  I want to be able to run with my kids and fall down playing in the grass with my kids and run with them on my back and chase them up the stairs screaming to their bedrooms and just feel normal.  I feel like my life is ruined.  Everything I once enjoyed is over.

by iAmEllen, Dec 28, 2006 12:00AM
Pregnancy either changed the anatomy of your heart or your hormonal state changed afterwards.



I know how you feel though.  Tons of people here do.  They can be totally miserable to live with.

by finetilthree, Dec 28, 2006 12:00AM
To: iAmEllen
What do you mean changed the anatomy of my heart?  Why didn't they find anything on echos/ct scans/xrays/etc?  Do you think I will die?

by sb786, Dec 28, 2006 12:00AM
To: iAmEllen
i feel exactly like fineTilThree. i never had these stupid missed beats before, i've been managing to lay down, bend over sit down quickly etc and never had the missed beats before, why did the change in blood flow and volume not trigger pvcs before?why has it taken 27 years for them to happen? There must be something else that has caused them, it's just amazing that no-one has a clue what!!!

by finetilthree, Dec 28, 2006 12:00AM
To: sb786
Nice to know someone is in the same boat as me, although I certainly wouldn't wish it on anyone else. Can you figure out anything major that changed in your life that coincided with this ****?  The only thing I can attribute is my third childbirth.  I wonder if my heart is permanently damaged from it.  My tests have all been mostly normal and they say this is all benign but no one can tell me what happened to my heart to cause this.  I am in some major depression here and I guess I better find a good shrink since no one can fix my heart.

by iAmEllen, Dec 28, 2006 12:00AM
To: finetilthree
Of course you're not going to die from this!  I just mean that pregnancy slightly changes the size and shape of your heart in a way that is minor and totally benign but enough to cause it to behave a bit differently.

by sb786, Dec 28, 2006 12:00AM
To: FineTilthree
i'm sorry but i find it so hard to believe that your heart has become damaged through childbirth!!! i've never been through it but it just doesn't make sense. please don't think your heart is now damaged. if you're really concerned get another heart echo done. Tomorrow i've got an appointment with a very good cardiologist and i'll ask him for his opinion for you.

I wish i could figure out what is causing the missed beats, they cannot just appear out of nowhere in healthy individuals. A lot of people just accept them and try differnt heart meds with little success. i have a friend in canada who i email on a regular basis and he has kissed goodbye to his missed beats by treating his indigestion which he found was his trigger. Another person who i met on the net believes that her missed beats happen when she is dehydrated only. Its a matter of finding your own triggers no matter how stupid they may sound to your docs.

Truth is there are somethings docs can't explain and just find it easier to blame it on hormones, stress, anxiety.......which is just a load of ****



by finetilthree, Dec 28, 2006 12:00AM
To: sb786
I think I have already had 3 echos, maybe 4.  I am suffering so much and I have had every test known to man and no one can find a reason.  Please let me know any thing you find out. Thank you again.

by CollegeGirl143, Dec 28, 2006 12:00AM
i find it so frustrating when people are making themselves suffer needlessly.. Just because someone recently starts feeling pvc's, doesnt mean you havent been experiencing them your entire life.. Every single person on the face of planet has pvc's.. If they where deadly, there would be no human race. If your other cardiac workups are fine, its time to move on.. If you obsess yourself with WHY only now you feel them, you're wasting alot of life you will never get back. You will never know why.. its time to accept and move on.

by yoshi74, Dec 28, 2006 12:00AM
To: collegegirl143/everyone
Collegegirl...it seems you have come to terms with your palp condition or lack thereof.and that is wonderful but not everyone has been able to do that. We are ALL individuals here with individual issues...I have seen alot of snappy comments from you here lately and as a PAC/PVC sufferer myself, sometimes it is WAY easier said than done to just accept. It is a daily struggle for me and I totally sympathize with finetilthree. I have had several tests done that came out negative and I STILL also fin