Why is it?

Because there is only one way to do things, don't you know?

Don't you know by now that if you don't agree with someone on MH it is an "attack"?  I think it's in the rules-
No logical discussions everything must be taken as a personal attack.

My way!  That's the only way!

However, your opinion was duly registered.  Thank you for participating.

I'm currently taking suggestions for Peekawho's Book Club.  

I can be your number 1 stalker???

Peekawho, if you're talking about me and that last journal, I DID feel attacked because the one poster said that I was being "sacreligious" and "full of self-importance". when that wasn't the way I felt at all. So yes, I did feel attacked.

if you are starting a book club, then obviously the first book for this lot would have to be bible....how else do you all expect to be saved from these wretched opnions? LOL

April, its the whole package.  You have every right to feel the way you want to and believe the things you prefer too, but when you go around quoting scripture to people, and saying that God wants us to do this and that, then you diminish and unwittingly belittle the beliefs of others.  

Saying "I'll pray for you to have your eyes opened" is belittling, too.  It implies that you have some knowledge or power that is superior to another, and you are praying that the other person comes to his or her senses.

Believe it or not, other people of differing beliefs may just be fine and not in need of prayers.  

Well, Peekawho, even though you said this was welcome to all it's obvious that it's intended to bash and mock Christians so I'll be leaving. I'm disappointed but you know what? It's just so ironic that those who don't believe keep crying "tolerence" and yet they won't tolerate Christians. They keep saying how hatefull Christians are but I've met more hateful people who are supposed to be the ones who are "tolerent".
I wish you well. I have no ill thoughts towards you or anyone else. Nor do I think I'm better than anyone else but you can believe what you want.
Take care.
April

I don't think peek was bashing Christians at all.  She's just saying not to shove scriptures down others throats.  If you are praying that someone's baby is born healthy or pray that they can move on after a miscarriage or a death, that's one thing, but praying that someone sees the error of their ways because they are in disagreement over a religious belief is another.

I am a Christian...a Roman Catholic to be exact.  I do not feel Peek is condemning Christianity at all.  I think she is just trying to say that everyone has a right to their opinion and religious beliefs.  I do not think she is attacking anyone.  Peek is being a little cynical....but if we cannot question ourselves and realize our positives and faults then who can?

What did I say that was mocking and bashing anyone?

I don't think you said anything wrong.

Every utterance out of my mouth or yours is considered bashing unless it validates what someone else says. If we do not agree, even in the most polite of ways (which we all know does nothing but garner anger anyway) we are labeled as "attackers" and reported.

I am 100% agreement with those that can see the greater meaning behind this journal. I also agree with the quoting of scripture as a means to condemn someone's actions is not helpful.

Well, I am getting on my pulpit now and make my quote!

From the movie GREASE

Rizzo states, and I quote, "My, some people are so touchy."

Where I live there is a group of people who seem to think they are better than everyone else.  They go to church every sunday.    Funny thing is guess what they are doing all week long.  
Having affairs, getting drunk,etc.
I don't get how some can be so quick to judge others.   I'm not very religious. I believe what I believe and don't try to push it on anyone else.   I think there is more to being a good christian than quoting scripture.   What has happened to living an honest life and treating others like you want to be treated?

My thouhts on religion is to
take all beliefs into consideration...were probably all wrong anyway

:)

joy had my remarks removed, then sent me a nice pm.  i dont feel bad for anything i said at all.  my "judgement" of people here is simply as i see them behave and what they say.  if you talk like an idiot, i will think you are.  if you are very knowledgable about a certain subject i will assume you to be intelligent and took your time to learn before handing out poor advice.  i dont know anyone from what i read, same as nobody knows im nice lol.  

however UNLIKE what a certain poster said, i do want to hear what others have to say.  if its stupid and rediculous then ihave something to chuckle about !!  man its too bad im eathing healthy i could use a bowl of ice cream.

Oh perty...I laugh at so many posts it's not even funny.  I laugh but choose not to respond.  

The reason I felt like my faith was being mocked here was because of the things said in a mocking, making fun of way, like:
"Because there is only one way to do things, don't you know?" by Andij78
"My way!  That's the only way!" by Peekawho
"if you are starting a book club, then obviously the first book for this lot would have to be bible....how else do you all expect to be saved from these wretched opnions? LOL" by ziggysgrl074
- that one in particular I thought was very offensive since she is mocking the Bible and needing to be "saved from these wretched opinions" The laugh out loud sign especially tells me she's making fun of it.
I don't know how many people would make fun of the Torah, which is the OT btw, and held very precious to the Jewish people. That's how Christians feel about the Bible. When you mock the Bible, which we believe is the very word of God, then we feel you are mocking God, our faith and everything we believe in. Yes, I take my faith personal so I do take it as a personal attack when someone mocks my God. I literally will feel grieved in the very pit of me. That someone could mock the very one who gave His all to us, is hurts me deeply.

Peekawho, I think you misread and misunderstood me too. The reason I quoted scripture is because there seemed to be a lot of confusion as to what was wrong with psychics, etc, even among some of the other Christians. I thought that by pointing them to scripture and what God had to say about it would help them to understand that it wasn't MY beliefs or whatever. I honestly thought some people would appreciate knowing what God thought about all of that. I wasn't doing it to "Lord it over people" or because I thought I was better than anyone else. I don't know how it all came down to that. I honestly thought there'd be people who would be open enough to say "Oh, I didn't realize that was in the Bible. I'll go look that up myself" or something to that effect. How could it be that you thought it was all about me when I kept trying to point people to God and His Word and what it has to say on that matter and many other matters? It grieves me terribly that any of you would have thought that. That was not my intent at all. Something was missed completely somehow. I kept telling people to pray on their own and seek God on their own and that He does show Himself to those truly seeking Him. I would have thought that'd be an encouragement to some!

And suzi-q, maybe I am "too touchy" but my God is very real to me and yes, I take it personally if I feel He is being mocked. He has just done so much for me and my family that I will stand up for Him. I cringe every time I hear His holy, precious name being profaned as a dirty word. So yes, I get touchy about my faith and my God. I have a hard time sitting back and listening to anyone say hateful or mocking things about someone so dear to me. He means the world to me.

I know you all are trying to just joke around and make light here but I really wish we could have just let things die with the whole Oprah journal.
I'm just going to ask again to please, please be respectful here. I'm sorry if I've offended anyone or took anything wrong. I really am.

And have 2 kids. you are so right. It grieves me terribly some of the terrible things people who call themselves Christians have done. I know part of it is our humanness but it's one thing if you struggle with sin and are trying to overcome it or if you've unintentionally offended someone but it's all together something else when you call yourself a follower of Christ and yet are not truly following Him and His teachings. Jesus Himself said there would be many people who think they're going to Heaven but they are hypocrites! And He will tell them He never knew them. That's the key. It's a heart thing. It's all about having a personal relationship with Christ, not what church you go to or how many charities you belong to. God and only God knows our hearts and knows how to weed out the ones who are superficial. He says He hates lukewarm people. He'd rather them be hot or cold and someday He will spit out the lukewarm people. He wants all our love and all our worship.

Again I'm sorry about this whole thing today. I've felt so grieved in my heart since that last post. I just love the Lord so much and I do like to share it with others but I know others don't want to hear and maybe I get too enthusiastic or something.
I hope you know when I pray that all eyes be opened, it's to be opened to the truth and how good God is and that's for all of us! Whether we call ourselves Christians or not. We all forget His goodness and grace sometimes and need to be reminded of it. When I pray, I often ask God to open my eyes to His truth and what He wants me to know and learn about today. I hope any of this helps you all to better understand me. I in no way want others to think that I think I'm better than anyone because that's simply not so! I know I'm not even the greatest Christian. I fall a lot and fail the Lord a lot but I keep getting back up and trying again.
I hope any of this makes sense and helps you all to see where I'm coming from. Thanks for hearing me out.
God bless.
April

April, just to re-word what I think you meant to say here: "He says He hates lukewarm people." I think you meant to say God hates for people to be lukewarm in their relationship with Him. As Christians, we know God does not hate people, just the sins that people commit.

I just felt I needed to make that very clear so people won't come back to use that against you or Christian beliefs and God.

And also, I don't think you need to be so apologetic for standing up for Christ and your belief in Him. I think you're doing a wonderful job explaining what we as Christians should so passionately be telling to lukewarm believers and non-believers. You don't have to be sorry to anyone for that. Christ never was apologetic to the Pharisees and Sadducees when he'd convict their ways and offend them. Never.

You should be proud of yourself, April--I am! :-)

That is what I meant, thanks for clearing that up for me AJ. This all kind of goes back from another journal post that became so heated it was deleted. I was just wanting to clear up some things that may have been misunderstood.
It's good to hear from you again! I haven't heard from you in awhile! :) And thanks for the kind words.

April...again...its not "others don't want to hear".  Its that we all hear in our own way.  We hear what we believe.  It might be very different than what you hear when you pray.

There are many forms of Christianity, April.  You happen to believe in one that's very different from what I hear.  My God does not "spit out" lukewarm people.  He doesn't "turn his back on anyone, saying he never knew them".  My God knows everyone, and believes in the good in everyone, and forgives everyone.  The God I know is more impressed by what people do for others, rather than how loudly they pray.   I believe we speak to God more through actions than words, even when those words are couched in religious rhetoric.  

*shrugs shoulders*

I see where you are coming from, but I'm sorry--you believe strongly in the traditional "fire and brimstone, heaven and hell" and I simply don't.  I believe I'm right, but certainly and strongly...I believe that you have the right to worship and believe what you want.  And I'm saying "you" in the collective sense right here.  There are many paths to the end of the maze that we call life.  

I'm angry to read that you believe you "fail" as a Christian.  Again, I don't believe the same way.  You are in no way a failure, and I'm uninterested in any type of religion that urges you to consider yourself a failure.  You are devout (certainly) kind, understanding, and do your best.  In no one's  world can you be considered a failure.  If you truly believe that of yourself simply because of how you interpret the Bible then I want no part of that interpretation.  

No, April should not apologize for her beliefs.  But to say this:

"Christ never was apologetic to the Pharisees and Sadducees when he'd convict their ways and offend them. Never."

It makes me very glad for my own personal beliefs.  

april2, we respect all opinions but we don't like it when it feeld like the bible is being shoved down our throats. we all have beliefs and we don't need people saying there not good enough heres the bible.
i don't like it when people start quoting the bible. it annoys me if i don't want to hear it then i shouldn't have it. i don't mock the bible i don't think anyone here did, but when you try to push your religion on people, we are going to react.
no one bashes anyone here, this is an open opininon blog as far as i am comcerned and people can have opinions just don't push the bible down my throat, there is no need to quote from the bible, a good christian doesn't need to be reminded.
i ahve my own beliefs and don't need to feel wrong for that. we all need to open minded.

April,

please read my message and note to you.  I do value your opinions and did not mean the sarcastic "touchy" to you.  I meant it to those who went haywire on the whole Oprah "scandal" and practically calling her an anti-christ!  Please accept my apology.  YOu are my cyberfriend!

******stands up and offers Peek a standing ovation******

Absolutely perfect...where do I send my tithe?

Send it to the Santa Margarita Water district, whose members have chosen to smite me by cutting off the water for the entire afternoon now.  

I'm having to go to the gym now to shower.  Wonder if I can take along all my dirty dishes and wash them with me, in the shower?  

Ewwww, that is a little too close to Kramer and his shower gourmet...

haha!! just was watching sienfeld