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BIG Balls!!!
Jun 03, 2008 05:35PM
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I couldn’t believe the arrogance and ignorance of what I was reading. The post containing the asinine statement quoted below expressed amazement that many heppers take an interest in the transplant forum.
“I hope everyone who is here is here for the right reason...otherwise you belong elsewhere.”
What, pray say, is the “right” reason?
My doctor made it real clear to me – succeed with this tx or face a transplant. Its no surprise that we who are in a fight for our lives take an interest in the subject. Its what many of us are facing (potentially) and I plan to educate myself about the whole process. Nothing amazing about that. Information is power and I will arm myself with all the information I can find.
As for the suggestion that any of us “belong elsewhere” … nonsense!
“I hope everyone who is here is here for the right reason...otherwise you belong elsewhere.”
What, pray say, is the “right” reason?
My doctor made it real clear to me – succeed with this tx or face a transplant. Its no surprise that we who are in a fight for our lives take an interest in the subject. Its what many of us are facing (potentially) and I plan to educate myself about the whole process. Nothing amazing about that. Information is power and I will arm myself with all the information I can find.
As for the suggestion that any of us “belong elsewhere” … nonsense!
So agrees JD, Same here.
I sent you a note saying I agree with everything you said without reading the original post.
I agree with you completely.........I just dont understand the " right reason" ?
However "Let it Be"
The bottom line is some of us will be facing a TP i our lifetime and some of us wont.
Never the less its ALL OUR CONCERN WE ALL HAVE THE SAME ILLNESS??
Be good.
I agree with you completely.........I just dont understand the " right reason" ?
However "Let it Be"
The bottom line is some of us will be facing a TP i our lifetime and some of us wont.
Never the less its ALL OUR CONCERN WE ALL HAVE THE SAME ILLNESS??
Be good.
I'd say "little balls" would be more likely. Little balls, big head....they often go together!!
OK, just so you know, there are 98% good people in here, and the usual couple of cops and woman bashers.
There's also a couple of OCD'ers whos soup slips the cracker and drips about a bit.
whatayagonnado....compared to most forums, this place is tame...
don't give him any attention or feedback though...they get off on that.
OK, just so you know, there are 98% good people in here, and the usual couple of cops and woman bashers.
There's also a couple of OCD'ers whos soup slips the cracker and drips about a bit.
whatayagonnado....compared to most forums, this place is tame...
don't give him any attention or feedback though...they get off on that.
The author of the "right" reason statement had earlier suggested that those who have finished tx should go away and start their own forum. Nobody else on this board has ever suggested that anyone be excluded - this is after all a public forum, we are all adults here and most of us are mature enough to weather differences of opinion!
Its so distasteful, not to mention ignorant and childish. It certainly doesn't add anything to the community. It is of no use to those who come here seeking to share information about the medical issues that are the subject matter of these boards.
Its so distasteful, not to mention ignorant and childish. It certainly doesn't add anything to the community. It is of no use to those who come here seeking to share information about the medical issues that are the subject matter of these boards.
I would also add this, the reason we are here, there is that we are all looking and and needing comfort,
I for one will face my God alone, I will not have some mad women who shows less christainity than anyone I have met, use Christ question or slam me . The only person who has the right to judge me is God. It is beyond distasteful!
Ignorant and viscious!
I for one will face my God alone, I will not have some mad women who shows less christainity than anyone I have met, use Christ question or slam me . The only person who has the right to judge me is God. It is beyond distasteful!
Ignorant and viscious!
You forgot........Arrogance and bigotry - self righteous condesension and jealousy.
talk about assinine wastes of emotion!
"I for one will face my God alone, I will not have some mad women who shows less christainity than anyone I have met, use Christ question or slam me . " Amen sister! You go you little crazy "courageous" Catholic girl! :)
As I said yesterday - I think some people are going to be very very surprised when they get to the pearly gates and find out that their name isn't even in the Book of Life. "But St. Peter...I beat down everyone I could in the name of Jesus and forced it down the throats of those who wouldn't listen to my version of Christianity, why am I not in there?!"
Jesus' main message was LOVE. Love of the Father and Love of Humankind. It's too bad that THAT message got lost in all the brimstone and hellfire ideology - showing people nothing but hate certainly won't bring anyone to Christ so how can they call themself a "Christian"?
what an idiot.
talk about assinine wastes of emotion!
"I for one will face my God alone, I will not have some mad women who shows less christainity than anyone I have met, use Christ question or slam me . " Amen sister! You go you little crazy "courageous" Catholic girl! :)
As I said yesterday - I think some people are going to be very very surprised when they get to the pearly gates and find out that their name isn't even in the Book of Life. "But St. Peter...I beat down everyone I could in the name of Jesus and forced it down the throats of those who wouldn't listen to my version of Christianity, why am I not in there?!"
Jesus' main message was LOVE. Love of the Father and Love of Humankind. It's too bad that THAT message got lost in all the brimstone and hellfire ideology - showing people nothing but hate certainly won't bring anyone to Christ so how can they call themself a "Christian"?
what an idiot.
Asinine people are everywhere, just keep in mind that the majority of people here, are here to help one another.
dont feed into that ****!
Peace
Rita
dont feed into that ****!
Peace
Rita
Charm , JD all. I have to agree with Rita, but, I also agree with everyone here.
and understand more than you know how you feel. We all need to vent .
I thought "Big Balls" oh this should be interesting !! LOL
(not what I thought)
Hugs to all
Elaine
and understand more than you know how you feel. We all need to vent .
I thought "Big Balls" oh this should be interesting !! LOL
(not what I thought)
Hugs to all
Elaine
Just wish G-D would be left alone and we could stop bothering him with nonsense! HE has work to do!!
Much more important issues he has to take care of.
I am not a Christain but please let him do his work.
If you bother him so much he wont be there when you need him even though he loves everyone.
This is not a bible class, religion should be kept in the heart and soul I believe its the most personal thing we have.
Unless your in Church Stomping and singing to the Lord.
We need to put a lid on this.
We are all part of a HepC Forum not a Bible Study.
The bible study in my opinion should be strictly in out hearts and souls and private.
Just like some people talk with their hearts, and some talk with their mouths, quite a big difference, to me anyway.
Much more important issues he has to take care of.
I am not a Christain but please let him do his work.
If you bother him so much he wont be there when you need him even though he loves everyone.
This is not a bible class, religion should be kept in the heart and soul I believe its the most personal thing we have.
Unless your in Church Stomping and singing to the Lord.
We need to put a lid on this.
We are all part of a HepC Forum not a Bible Study.
The bible study in my opinion should be strictly in out hearts and souls and private.
Just like some people talk with their hearts, and some talk with their mouths, quite a big difference, to me anyway.
“I hope everyone who is here is here for the right reason...otherwise you belong elsewhere.”
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I had visited the same thread on that forum, but I believe it's being misinterpreted. If I remember correctly, the comment was in response to someone posting who appeared to be there not for the "right" reasons, as they were being rude and cruel. Bashing vs. teaching, ridiculing vs. supporting, hurting instead of helping, speading vile instead of hope. I believe we have all seen this in the past, and I think this forum can do without that sort of unkindness myself. There are many places on the web for sharp words and ridicule but those "belong elsewhere" than this forum.
Respectfully,
~eureka
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I had visited the same thread on that forum, but I believe it's being misinterpreted. If I remember correctly, the comment was in response to someone posting who appeared to be there not for the "right" reasons, as they were being rude and cruel. Bashing vs. teaching, ridiculing vs. supporting, hurting instead of helping, speading vile instead of hope. I believe we have all seen this in the past, and I think this forum can do without that sort of unkindness myself. There are many places on the web for sharp words and ridicule but those "belong elsewhere" than this forum.
Respectfully,
~eureka
Phew, I'm glad I wasn't around to see whatever fight started all this!! It sounds positively morbid from all the reactions!!
You know...everyone tends to over-react to things on treatment...chemo therapy makes recreational use look like the teacups compared to Mr. Toad wild ride!!
but there are always going to be those who feed on negativity energy and enjoy seeing the stir they make...
in the end they sit back and chuckle while normally decent people start to get after one another.
If there's only ONE thing I've learned in all the years I've worked with teenagers it is this:
whoever caused the stir, is crying out for attention, the more others let that persons antics control all their actions, the more powerful the abuser becomes in the group. The sick one becomes the center around which all else must revolve until the a leader, and the group learn to take their power back. One way to take power back is by prayer for that person...the other way is by shunning them.
So whoever started all this, I think the better part of valor is to hold the offenders up in our prayers, and if you cannot love, then at least ignor that person entirely unless or until civility and normal behavior returns to that person. Otherwise we can expect more of the same from them in the future.
to NYgirl....whatever labels we put on are overridden by our dominant behaviors, not that any are perfect, we all fall short...But,
Or as St. Paul said: "those that walk in the flesh fulfill the lusts of the flesh." So if it looks like a duck...chances are it's a duck, eh? Or, if a duck thinks it's an eagle...then maybe it should lay off shooting out the duck eggs...? Just some thoughts.
regardless of our 'confession' of faith, it's our 'profession' of the same that offers up proof we've let God in, and that requires effort and humility to become integral....or as a Jethro Tull song once worded it..."He not the kind we have to wind up on Sundays".
So hopefully we can all take a deep breath and not let one person's stumbling be an occasion for many more of us to stumble.
I think because there are many in this forum without faith it behoves those with faith to walk that out as blamelessly as we can...." if there be any way that I might win my brother" Paul said, "I would give up my own salvation would that but win them".
In essense, telling us all to bear in mind that from our side of the looking glass things look very different than from theirs.....
I think a lot of people who haven't come to believe in God look at faith as foolishness, and the case for Christ is not furthered when those claiming to represent Him allow another spirit, even a pride in ones religion, to guide their actions.
Besides which, I think God's big enough to defend Himself. We don't have to become contentious to prove He's the God of peace now do we??. Yet often, we loose track and begin to defend self, thinking it's our faith or Him we defend.
From my perspective, faith is faith, it is what it is, so has no need of defense. "Be able to give an account for the faith that is in you" doesn't mean to get into heated debate in view of an unbelieving world. It means that our love and ability to stay in a state of peace and/or reason speak for themselves. And, if they do not, then no amount of our justifications will balance that scale.
No one of faith needs to apologize to anyone in here for having that faith...but at times we all need to look at how well we've demonstrated it to those the Hound of Heaven is still pursuing
peace to ALL.
mb
You know...everyone tends to over-react to things on treatment...chemo therapy makes recreational use look like the teacups compared to Mr. Toad wild ride!!
but there are always going to be those who feed on negativity energy and enjoy seeing the stir they make...
in the end they sit back and chuckle while normally decent people start to get after one another.
If there's only ONE thing I've learned in all the years I've worked with teenagers it is this:
whoever caused the stir, is crying out for attention, the more others let that persons antics control all their actions, the more powerful the abuser becomes in the group. The sick one becomes the center around which all else must revolve until the a leader, and the group learn to take their power back. One way to take power back is by prayer for that person...the other way is by shunning them.
So whoever started all this, I think the better part of valor is to hold the offenders up in our prayers, and if you cannot love, then at least ignor that person entirely unless or until civility and normal behavior returns to that person. Otherwise we can expect more of the same from them in the future.
to NYgirl....whatever labels we put on are overridden by our dominant behaviors, not that any are perfect, we all fall short...But,
Or as St. Paul said: "those that walk in the flesh fulfill the lusts of the flesh." So if it looks like a duck...chances are it's a duck, eh? Or, if a duck thinks it's an eagle...then maybe it should lay off shooting out the duck eggs...? Just some thoughts.
regardless of our 'confession' of faith, it's our 'profession' of the same that offers up proof we've let God in, and that requires effort and humility to become integral....or as a Jethro Tull song once worded it..."He not the kind we have to wind up on Sundays".
So hopefully we can all take a deep breath and not let one person's stumbling be an occasion for many more of us to stumble.
I think because there are many in this forum without faith it behoves those with faith to walk that out as blamelessly as we can...." if there be any way that I might win my brother" Paul said, "I would give up my own salvation would that but win them".
In essense, telling us all to bear in mind that from our side of the looking glass things look very different than from theirs.....
I think a lot of people who haven't come to believe in God look at faith as foolishness, and the case for Christ is not furthered when those claiming to represent Him allow another spirit, even a pride in ones religion, to guide their actions.
Besides which, I think God's big enough to defend Himself. We don't have to become contentious to prove He's the God of peace now do we??. Yet often, we loose track and begin to defend self, thinking it's our faith or Him we defend.
From my perspective, faith is faith, it is what it is, so has no need of defense. "Be able to give an account for the faith that is in you" doesn't mean to get into heated debate in view of an unbelieving world. It means that our love and ability to stay in a state of peace and/or reason speak for themselves. And, if they do not, then no amount of our justifications will balance that scale.
No one of faith needs to apologize to anyone in here for having that faith...but at times we all need to look at how well we've demonstrated it to those the Hound of Heaven is still pursuing
peace to ALL.
mb
Howdy Y'all... I'm speaking for myself here, when I say that I'm truly grateful to all those who've finished their TX, and are giving enough to hang out with those of us who need the kind of reassurence that comes in it's best form from those who've been ther and done that. Thank You SVL, UND ers... You're indespensible to me.
Again, my POV, but I choose to use, whatever energy I have, to fight the Dragon; whilst giving whatever love and support I can, to my fellow heppers.
mb- I agree that "faith is Faith"- I don't allow anyone to shove their religion down my throat, any more than I would feel rightous in doing so to others!!! However, I don't have to believe in Allah, to appreciate a Muslims' good wishes, in my behalf, while naming their diety. Oh, Great Pumpkin, let us all find a way to tolerate each others beliefs, in the name of all that's Good and Great!!!!!
So be it! " Make it so # One", Captain Kirk
Love and Peace to all, Ant B
Again, my POV, but I choose to use, whatever energy I have, to fight the Dragon; whilst giving whatever love and support I can, to my fellow heppers.
mb- I agree that "faith is Faith"- I don't allow anyone to shove their religion down my throat, any more than I would feel rightous in doing so to others!!! However, I don't have to believe in Allah, to appreciate a Muslims' good wishes, in my behalf, while naming their diety. Oh, Great Pumpkin, let us all find a way to tolerate each others beliefs, in the name of all that's Good and Great!!!!!
So be it! " Make it so # One", Captain Kirk
Love and Peace to all, Ant B
Uh, that wasn't Kirk, that was Pickard, Jean Luke.
A big DITTO to Wassup...my feelings exactly...I have gained a HUGE amount of knowledge from post tx heppers, and an equal amount of reassurance when I thought this nasty thing was a death sentence...I feel for those poor souls who have gone through treatment unsupported...It's no surprise the withdrawel rate from txing is so high...(I'm am NOT targeting anyone here -for the record!) You guys are great, and I fell blessed to call you friends... ~Melinda
The author of the "right" reason statement had earlier suggested that those who have finished tx should go away and start their own forum. Nobody else on this board has ever suggested that anyone be excluded - this is after all a public forum, we are all adults here and most of us are mature enough to weather differences of opinion!
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boy wouldn't that be a nightmare. You'd have the blind leading the blind. I'm pretty happy we had so many experienced people here when I started treating otherwise I would have just crashed their new forum. And as everyone says, the fair real possibility for any of us who don't SVR is that we will have to transplant. In fact, I've been told that getting hepc acutely at age, with already having an auto immune issue with anemia, would have probably caused it to race through my body quickly. And that the combination of that and the immune response would have damaged my entire system and possibly multiple organs quickly. I'm glad I haven't had to find out.
These are open boards. ALL OF THEM. And while one should comport oneself respect and perhaps not take up time with silly questions like, are you sure I don't have this or that? I tested five times and was negative but yesterday I coughted once? Still, all the forums are open and as far as I know, medhelp has not installed a gatekeeper system. So that person should talk to them if they have a problem with it and otherwise, if they can't hold their peace, probably be ignored. At least, that's what I would do.
I visit different forums here and read all the time. If someone asks a health question I know the answer to and nobody else is answering them, sometimes I answer. Not often. But I'm sure it's happened.
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boy wouldn't that be a nightmare. You'd have the blind leading the blind. I'm pretty happy we had so many experienced people here when I started treating otherwise I would have just crashed their new forum. And as everyone says, the fair real possibility for any of us who don't SVR is that we will have to transplant. In fact, I've been told that getting hepc acutely at age, with already having an auto immune issue with anemia, would have probably caused it to race through my body quickly. And that the combination of that and the immune response would have damaged my entire system and possibly multiple organs quickly. I'm glad I haven't had to find out.
These are open boards. ALL OF THEM. And while one should comport oneself respect and perhaps not take up time with silly questions like, are you sure I don't have this or that? I tested five times and was negative but yesterday I coughted once? Still, all the forums are open and as far as I know, medhelp has not installed a gatekeeper system. So that person should talk to them if they have a problem with it and otherwise, if they can't hold their peace, probably be ignored. At least, that's what I would do.
I visit different forums here and read all the time. If someone asks a health question I know the answer to and nobody else is answering them, sometimes I answer. Not often. But I'm sure it's happened.
I have nothing of substance to add - I just want to be in good company. Is that ok? Mike
LOL OK with me everyone else?
Hugs
Elaine
Hugs
Elaine
OK here, too.
jd
jd
Is this thread reminding anybody else of that old AC/DC song?
Well I'm ever upper-class high society
God's gift to ballroom notoriety
And I always fill my ballroom
The event is never small
The social pages say I've got
The biggest balls of all
I've got big balls
I've got big balls
They're such big balls
And they're dirty big balls
And he's got big balls
And she's got big balls
But we've got the biggest balls of them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well I'm ever upper-class high society
God's gift to ballroom notoriety
And I always fill my ballroom
The event is never small
The social pages say I've got
The biggest balls of all
I've got big balls
I've got big balls
They're such big balls
And they're dirty big balls
And he's got big balls
And she's got big balls
But we've got the biggest balls of them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That was great Deb!!! i am falling off my chair!
and to tall the post treaters I NEED EVERYONE OF YOU FOR HOWEVER LONG THIS TAKES!!! AND ONCE I REACH SVR I WILL BE HERE TO HELP ANYONE NEW!!!!
YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN MY ROCK!
Charm ` i agree let G-- do is job!
Mike i'm glad you wanted to just join in hehehe!
pEACE
RITA
and to tall the post treaters I NEED EVERYONE OF YOU FOR HOWEVER LONG THIS TAKES!!! AND ONCE I REACH SVR I WILL BE HERE TO HELP ANYONE NEW!!!!
YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN MY ROCK!
Charm ` i agree let G-- do is job!
Mike i'm glad you wanted to just join in hehehe!
pEACE
RITA
Two of the greatest screamers in rock 'n roll: Bon Scott of ACDC and Steve Tyler of Aerosmith.
(Hmm... anyone else get the feeling that NYGirl is partial to guys who holler and let it all hang out? lol)
Good company, good music, people falling off their chairs... all the makings of a ball of a party... what more could a girl want? :D
Cheers to all.
(Hmm... anyone else get the feeling that NYGirl is partial to guys who holler and let it all hang out? lol)
Good company, good music, people falling off their chairs... all the makings of a ball of a party... what more could a girl want? :D
Cheers to all.
When I saw this post, I thought "Oh, no! Another TX side effect I am going to have to deal with!".
Thankfully not. ;)
Brent
Thankfully not. ;)
Brent
LMAO, Brent. Good one!
that was great Brent!!! made me laugh!
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