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Hi everyone. I have been apart of this forum since April of 2007. I am the Co Community Leader of the addiction forums. This a great supportive place to come. If you ever need any help, Myself and Goingtomakeit as well as FL Addict are here. I am a mom of two. I own my...
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INFO for ultram withdrawl
Jan 14, 2008 06:29AM
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I did NOT write this , I would love to speak to who ever did ,its really good.
Tramadol is a tough one since it is not only a synthetic opiate it also has properties that act kind of like a anti depressant. It stimulates the serotonin and norepinepren (I believe) parts of your brains neurotransmitters.. So it literally effects alot of the brain.. I highly suggest getting on a amino acid program like the one in the book END YOUR ADDICTION NOW.. since you were on Trams you would fall into two categories.. as did I since i was also taking anti depressants with my pain pills.. Taking these make us deficient in our neurotransmitters and we have physical issues to this.. such as what you are experiencing.. I am also posting a thing I wrote that gives the aminos to help rebuild these parts of the brain... check it out.. maybe order the book on Amazon.. it changed my life and I owe getting off of pain pills,antidepressants and xanax to this program.. Here it is..
All of this program is from the book END YOUR ADDICTION NOW.. the doctor who wrote it ran a treatment facility in UPstate New york where they gave patients amino acids and vitamin via IV during treatment.. He also counsels patients individually.. All of these things are meant to rebuild activity in the major neurotransmitters.. as addicts our neurotransmitters have been disrupted by our use of drugs.. even stuff like cigarettes and eating alot of sugar can disrupt them.. with drugs however it can be more damaging.. I will list the aminos mainly used for addiction, their dosages etc.. everything should be taken on a empty stomach... an hour b4 meals.. Take all of them together with lots of water...
**These are the ones from the pain addiction category as well as the depression/anxiety...**
B- vitamin Complex either 50mgs or 100mgs, needed for absorption of aminos..
Multi mineral vitamin, just good to take all around
5HTP-- this is what tryptophan gets turned into prior to being turned into serotonin in our brains. Serotonin is what is usually depleted if we are depressed and anxious.. Taking the with help with PAWS ( post acute withdrawl syndrome) DO NOT TAKE IF YOU ARE TAKING A SSRI OR TRICYLIC ANTI DEPRESSANT
Dosage-- up to 300mgs a day 3x DAILY ( I take 100mgs 3x per day, start with the lower dose and move up if needed)
L-glutamine--amino acid required for GABA production, that is the relaxing part of our brain. up to 2000mgs 3x per day.. ( I take 1000 mgs 3x day, again start lower and work up if needed)
L-Taurine-- another "relaxing" amino up to 1000mgs 3x daily
DLPA-- helps restore the function to the pain receptors working with the endorphins/enkephalins DO NOT TAKE IF YOU ARE TAKING A SSRI OR TRICYLIC ANTIDEPRESSANT
Dose-- up to 2000mgs 3x per day (again you can start lower like 1000mgs 3x daily)
L-leucine-- required for the production of endorphins up to 500mgs 3x per day
L-methionine-- same as leucine
If you find yourself really struggling with energy after being on the aminos you can add L-tyrosine to the mix in the early part of the day.. up to 1,500mgs..
If you find yourself having some anxiety the amino L-theanine is like natural valium.. It has helped me so much I no longer need to take xanax at all for my panic attacks
If you are interested in other ways to help heal. Ester C 500mgs to 1000mgs per day can be very helpful.. as well as extra calcium and magnesium.. Alpha lipoic acid is a anti oxidant that helps protect your body against free radicals.. EFA"S can also help in the form of fish oils and omega 3's
As far as sleep.. in my early days off of pills I took a sleep blend from GNC with a L-theanine and calcium magnesium liquid everynight and slept like a baby.
I suggest GNC to purchase this stuff they are pretty cheap (some stuff is only 4.99 a bottle) they were also super helpful and knew alot.. I got a gold card to save some bucks in the future..
After a few months if you are feeling good you can taper the aminos back to once a day... then a few months after that a few times a week.. the best part about taking aminos instead of drugs is you don't have to take them forever to get the benefit.. the FIX the problem not put
Tramadol is a tough one since it is not only a synthetic opiate it also has properties that act kind of like a anti depressant. It stimulates the serotonin and norepinepren (I believe) parts of your brains neurotransmitters.. So it literally effects alot of the brain.. I highly suggest getting on a amino acid program like the one in the book END YOUR ADDICTION NOW.. since you were on Trams you would fall into two categories.. as did I since i was also taking anti depressants with my pain pills.. Taking these make us deficient in our neurotransmitters and we have physical issues to this.. such as what you are experiencing.. I am also posting a thing I wrote that gives the aminos to help rebuild these parts of the brain... check it out.. maybe order the book on Amazon.. it changed my life and I owe getting off of pain pills,antidepressants and xanax to this program.. Here it is..
All of this program is from the book END YOUR ADDICTION NOW.. the doctor who wrote it ran a treatment facility in UPstate New york where they gave patients amino acids and vitamin via IV during treatment.. He also counsels patients individually.. All of these things are meant to rebuild activity in the major neurotransmitters.. as addicts our neurotransmitters have been disrupted by our use of drugs.. even stuff like cigarettes and eating alot of sugar can disrupt them.. with drugs however it can be more damaging.. I will list the aminos mainly used for addiction, their dosages etc.. everything should be taken on a empty stomach... an hour b4 meals.. Take all of them together with lots of water...
**These are the ones from the pain addiction category as well as the depression/anxiety...**
B- vitamin Complex either 50mgs or 100mgs, needed for absorption of aminos..
Multi mineral vitamin, just good to take all around
5HTP-- this is what tryptophan gets turned into prior to being turned into serotonin in our brains. Serotonin is what is usually depleted if we are depressed and anxious.. Taking the with help with PAWS ( post acute withdrawl syndrome) DO NOT TAKE IF YOU ARE TAKING A SSRI OR TRICYLIC ANTI DEPRESSANT
Dosage-- up to 300mgs a day 3x DAILY ( I take 100mgs 3x per day, start with the lower dose and move up if needed)
L-glutamine--amino acid required for GABA production, that is the relaxing part of our brain. up to 2000mgs 3x per day.. ( I take 1000 mgs 3x day, again start lower and work up if needed)
L-Taurine-- another "relaxing" amino up to 1000mgs 3x daily
DLPA-- helps restore the function to the pain receptors working with the endorphins/enkephalins DO NOT TAKE IF YOU ARE TAKING A SSRI OR TRICYLIC ANTIDEPRESSANT
Dose-- up to 2000mgs 3x per day (again you can start lower like 1000mgs 3x daily)
L-leucine-- required for the production of endorphins up to 500mgs 3x per day
L-methionine-- same as leucine
If you find yourself really struggling with energy after being on the aminos you can add L-tyrosine to the mix in the early part of the day.. up to 1,500mgs..
If you find yourself having some anxiety the amino L-theanine is like natural valium.. It has helped me so much I no longer need to take xanax at all for my panic attacks
If you are interested in other ways to help heal. Ester C 500mgs to 1000mgs per day can be very helpful.. as well as extra calcium and magnesium.. Alpha lipoic acid is a anti oxidant that helps protect your body against free radicals.. EFA"S can also help in the form of fish oils and omega 3's
As far as sleep.. in my early days off of pills I took a sleep blend from GNC with a L-theanine and calcium magnesium liquid everynight and slept like a baby.
I suggest GNC to purchase this stuff they are pretty cheap (some stuff is only 4.99 a bottle) they were also super helpful and knew alot.. I got a gold card to save some bucks in the future..
After a few months if you are feeling good you can taper the aminos back to once a day... then a few months after that a few times a week.. the best part about taking aminos instead of drugs is you don't have to take them forever to get the benefit.. the FIX the problem not put
What type of antidepressent is lexapro?
avisg...
I was told that you have a lot of experience with Tramadol. I've been on it for a long time....nearly a decade. I'm currently at the highest daily dosage I've ever consistently taken. You are right about the anti-depressant qualities of Tramadol...but it's interesting that you mentioned sugar. I have a neurotic sweet tooth...meaning, I crave sugar after every meal and eat a lot of candy, etc. My family makes fun of me for having multiple "stashes" around the house...all in good fun though. Has there been any other correlations of Tramadol and sugar consumption? Do you also know of any information as to what Tramadol does to the kidneys or liver? I went cold turkey about 4 years ago and made if for nearly a year. If you don't mind, please share your Tramadol experiences with me...
Thanks,
JNelliE
I was told that you have a lot of experience with Tramadol. I've been on it for a long time....nearly a decade. I'm currently at the highest daily dosage I've ever consistently taken. You are right about the anti-depressant qualities of Tramadol...but it's interesting that you mentioned sugar. I have a neurotic sweet tooth...meaning, I crave sugar after every meal and eat a lot of candy, etc. My family makes fun of me for having multiple "stashes" around the house...all in good fun though. Has there been any other correlations of Tramadol and sugar consumption? Do you also know of any information as to what Tramadol does to the kidneys or liver? I went cold turkey about 4 years ago and made if for nearly a year. If you don't mind, please share your Tramadol experiences with me...
Thanks,
JNelliE
That is very good I am going to get this book.
Also go to the website: the brain place by Dr. Daniel Amen he backs up the info.
Also go to the website: the brain place by Dr. Daniel Amen he backs up the info.
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