Jan 14, 2008 08:18PM
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* [Warning. If you are on anti-Depressants, use medical supervision on L-Tyrosine, SamE and all mood enhancers. There can be a risk if taking L-Tyrosine, 5 HTP if you are on a tricyclic or a MAIO antidepressant's ...It can cause a spike in blood pressure.]
I want to thank Alli (angel44240) for digging this up from the archives here.
Tramadol is a tough one since it is not only a synthetic opiate it also has properties that act kind of like a anti depressant. It stimulates the serotonin and norepinephren parts of your brains neurotransmitters.. So it literally effects a lot of the brain.. I highly suggest getting on a amino acid program like the one in the book END YOUR ADDICTION NOW.. since you were on Trams you would fall into two categories.. as did I since i was also taking anti depressants with my pain pills.. Taking these make us deficient in our neurotransmitters and we have physical issues to this.. such as what you are experiencing.. I am also posting a thing I wrote that gives the aminos to help rebuild these parts of the brain... check it out.. maybe order the book on Amazon.. it changed my life and I owe getting off of pain pills,antidepressants and Xanax to this program.. Here it is..
All of this program is from the book END YOUR ADDICTION NOW.. the doctor who wrote it ran a treatment facility in up state New York where they gave patients amino acids* and vitamin via IV during treatment.. He also counsels patients individually.. All of these things are meant to rebuild activity in the major neuro-transmitters.. as addicts our neurotransmitters have been disrupted by our use of drugs.. even stuff like cigarettes and eating a lot of sugar can disrupt them.. with drugs however it can be more damaging.. I will list the aminos mainly used for addiction, their dosages etc.. everything should be taken on a empty stomach... an hour b4 meals.. Take all of them together with lots of water...
**These are the ones from the pain addiction category as well as the depression/anxiety...**
B- vitamin Complex either 50mgs or 100mgs, needed for absorption of aminos..
Multi mineral vitamin, just good to take all around
5HTP*-- this is what tryptophan gets turned into prior to being turned into serotonin in our brains. Serotonin is what is usually depleted if we are depressed and anxious.. Taking the with help with PAWS ( post acute withdrawal syndrome) DO NOT TAKE IF YOU ARE TAKING A SSRI OR TRICYLIC ANTI DEPRESSANT *
Dosage-- up to 300mgs a day 3x DAILY ( I take 100mgs 3x per day, start with the lower dose and move up if needed)
L-Glutamine--amino acid required for GABA production, that is the relaxing part of our brain. up to 2000mgs 3x per day.. ( I take 1000 mgs 3x day, again start lower and work up if needed)
L-Taurine-- another "relaxing" amino up to 1000mgs 3x daily
DLPA-- helps restore the function to the pain receptors working with the endorphins/enkephalins DO NOT TAKE IF YOU ARE TAKING A SSRI OR TRICYLIC ANTIDEPRESSANT *
Dose-- up to 2000mgs 3x per day (again you can start lower like 1000mgs 3x daily)
L-Leucine-- required for the production of endorphins up to 500mgs 3x per day *
L-methionine-- same as L-Leucine *
If you find yourself really struggling with energy after being on the aminos you can add L-tyrosine* to the mix in the early part of the day.. up to 1,500mgs..
If you find yourself having some anxiety the amino L-Theanine* is like natural Valium.. It has helped me so much I no longer need to take xanax at all for my panic attacks
If you are interested in other ways to help heal. Ester C 500mgs to 1000mgs per day can be very helpful.. as well as extra calcium and magnesium.. Alpha lipoic acid is a anti oxidant that helps protect your body against free radicals.. EFA"S can also help in the form of fish oils and omega 3's
As far as sleep.. in my early days off of pills I took a sleep blend from GNC with a L-Theanine* and calcium magnesium liquid every night and slept like a baby.
I suggest GNC to purchase this stuff they are pretty cheap (some stuff is only 4.99 a bottle) they were also super helpful and knew a lot.. I got a gold card to save some bucks in the future..
After a few months if you are feeling good you can taper the aminos back to once a day... then a few months after that a few times a week.. the best part about taking aminos instead of drugs is you don't have to take them forever to get the benefit.. the FIX the problem not put a band aid on it..
I would also recommend the book Seven Weeks to Sobriety. and their website is an excellent source for formulas designed for different moods and issues. As well as individual items. I find that their products are high quality and they ship overnite with a minimum order. http://www.healthrecovery.com/HRC_2006/BioR_Sobriety_Ordering.html
I got his from a post by Tramatnite.....I use this stuff called Amino Fuel which is sold in every health food store.
I got the liquid form. It's also available in pills. Liquid absorbs quicker.
This stuff is loaded with every amino acid in the book . I take three teaspoons 3 times a day along with sub-lingual B6 and B12 drops and a multivitamin.
This liquid amino elevates my mood and gives me so much energy I don't need coffee.
It's only about $9.99 for a big bottle. Bodybuilders and athletes use it religiously. There are also other generic brands that work just as good.
* [Warning. If you are on anti-Depressants, use medical supervision on L-Tyrosine, SamE and all mood enhancers. There can be a risk if taking L-Tyrosine, 5 HTP if you are on a tricyclic or a MAIO antidepressant's ...It can cause a spike in blood pressure.]