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Jan 02, 2009 02:04PM - 54 comments
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I would like to hear from people on what they think about porn. Please men and women respond.
First do you like to watch porn? How do you feel after you have watched it? Do you use it in your relationship? Does your spouse watch it to? What do they think about you watching it?
Do you make your own porn?
Do both parties think it bring spice to the relationship?

Do you have moral objections against porn?

I used to watch porn a lot when I was single or in casual relationships. I would watch it alone and watch it with a partner if she was interested. But after getting married my desire for porn has gone down and now if I do watch it it is from the internet and I don't get much from it. I have watched it with my wife when we were dating, she said she liked watching 2 girls and after teasing her about it she wanted to stop watchng it...but it was all in good fun but I think she took it another way. But also I have started going back to church after several years and found that when I watch porn now I actually feel bad that I am doing it. The church that I worship at has never said anything about porn but I think my own morals have told me that watching porn is not something I should be doing because of the lust factor. I can watch porn that I have made with my wife with no guilt but when I see it with another woman/couple then the guilt starts to set it.

So what are your thoughts about it and about my questions?

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by Lonelymom, Jan 02, 2009 04:13PM
I like to watch porn. I get turned on by watching it but afterwards feel ashamed or dirty because of how I was brought up. I would love to use it in my marriage but my husband doesn't like it. He makes fun of me watching it and so I rarely get to watch it. He also has a problem with me watching it especially if we are in the middle of intercourse and he finds me watching it.

Morally I don't really have any objections.

by auntiejessi, Jan 02, 2009 05:21PM
I think porn is like many other things - depends on how its used.  I've used it alone and with a partner, and my feelings after depend entirely on my partner.

I dated a guy who I remain convinced was addicted to porn.  We couldn't have any kind of sexual activity without it.  I also dated a guy who would look at pics at various times.  That kind of bothered me, but I can't really explain why.  There was one site where you rate women's breasts that he really liked, and that seemed objectifying to me, and of course, I felt I couldn't measure up.  He also cheated on me, so I'm sure that factored into it - kind of a "I'll never be good enough" thing.

I don't get the making fun of it - that reeks of insecurity to me.  

by rocky7814, Jan 03, 2009 01:52PM
As they say, too much of anything usually isn't a good thing. Too much porn in generally. With me, it's lead to increase problems with my OCD. Also has distorted my views of many things. I'm right now trying my best to stay away from it.

by pathology, Jan 03, 2009 02:05PM
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by dominosarah, Jan 03, 2009 02:16PM
I can take it or leave it.  I just better never see my daughters in one!!!!  I wouldnt make porn movies at home.......you just never know where that could end up at.  Somebody breaks into your house and the next thing you know you are all over the internet.......not a good idea for this girl.

by NautyOne, Jan 03, 2009 02:24PM
Nothing wrong with a little porn, but as someone said.....once you start getting into it, you want to see more, and thats where it can cause problems.  I have seen many things I wish I hadn't.  I don't care if the man I am with watches it or not.  I don't feel threatend by it, but I don't watch anymore because it does mess witcha head !!

NO MORE PORN....at least for now.  I haven't found a Stamos yet.........or have I......lol

by theeagle, Jan 03, 2009 02:40PM
Take it or leave it. Dont go out of my way to see it or avoid it. Many friends are still into it - viewing and production. I was around enough during service days to last quite awhile. Just get in a cab in Nogales and tell the driver that you wish to go to "Boys Town" and you will find things that are hard to believe.........and the ladies in Subic Bay have made an artform out of seperating servicemen from their money in any way necessary ............

by lonewolf07, Jan 04, 2009 01:11AM
I wouldn't go out and rent a porn DVD.  Some forms of porn like kiddie porn, snuff films, beastiality, etc. - no way.  That isn't sex it's just sick.  "Basic" porn IMHO is really up to the individual who watches it.  Some of the shows on TV are pretty close to porn but then how is porn actually defined?




by ILADVOCATE, Jan 04, 2009 01:19AM
Like anything else. Two easy definitions. Consenting adult and safe sex. As for the nature of the films themselves some can be destructive yes even if everyone is an adult because they can be abusive to women but those are few and far between as opposed to standard porn. As for watching any consenting adult material its part of life. If someone doesn't want to do it fine but they shouldn't feel guilty and obsess about it. There are better things to worry about in life. If you don't like it don't watch it and put a filter on your computer but if you do want to I really don't see anything wrong with it.

by MJIthewriter, Jan 04, 2009 02:06AM
One time we got an Apple computer really cheap off e-Bay... That was to be a present for me.  It had Photoshop and other software I wanted, but when I started exploring the files I found the computer had more than I bargained for...

Ugh.... There was loads of that C-r-a-p! I dumped it all in the trash...

On the same computer, I saw in Photoshop each step of the way where someone faked a WI driver’s license. They altered their birth date to make them seem over the age 21 because they obviously wanted to host or be part of a "Senior Bar Crawl" and drink... I found the flier to the "Bar Crawl" so I figured the two went together...

That said, knowing I have an addictive personality I need to be careful with myself what doors I open and what doors I want to keep shut.  Porn is something I want to keep the door shut.


by cocoleli, Jan 04, 2009 02:31AM
Porn I noticed is when I noticed my manic phase is about to go into effect. I need it when I am having intimate relations. Thats the only way I can really stomach the sex plus it tends to distract me. There is nothing wrong with porn in general though.

by remar, Jan 04, 2009 07:28AM
Okay, I might seem like a prude here but I really don't think it's a good idea. I can't judge anyone else if they want to watch it, that's up to them. The people are fake and most of the time they don't even know each other. I think it makes people feel bad about themselves because they don't look that way or they can't do that position or please their partner in that way. If it helps your relationship and your both alright with it then go for it but if it hurts it, then don't watch it. Also, if you become obssesed with it then it's not a good thing. The Prude. Ha ha! Remar

by Agiesmom, Jan 04, 2009 11:25AM
I heard a sex therapist once say, "Show me a woman in the adult (porn/stripper/prostitution) industry and I'll show you a woman who was sexually abused as a child."

I think it's exploitation--and if you want to refute that by saying that not ALL women who do it are emotionally disturbed and/or have addiction issues and are being exploited, you can't deny that at the very least SOME of them are and you can't know which ones are and which aren't.  So by supporting the porn industry (by watching), you're part of the problem.  And most men and women who enjoy porn would be horrified if their daughter chose it as a career (or got caught up in it).

That's my take on it.

by Jbraaten, Jan 04, 2009 03:34PM
I personally do not see a problem with porn unless you are objectifying the people in the movie. My husband and I often watch porn together. We own porn, we watch porn online, and we subscribe to different porn websites. We are not porn obsessed, and we probably only watch it once or twice a month. But we both find it arousing and often it will put you in the mood when you aren't feeling it before. We don't make our own tapes. I don't like the idea of someone else accidentally finding them or seeing them, but I have no problem with professional porn.

by April2, Jan 04, 2009 07:14PM
I totally agree with, Agiesmom. I think it exploits women. I've also seen porn tear apart marriages and have lasting negative affects on people (especially people with addictive personalities) and teens. What really makes me mad is how devious and deceptive the whole porn industry is. When they start targeting kids, then that's just wrong. And they do that on the computer. Just ask anybody who has done homework with kids who had to type in something to do with their homeworks and that c r a p pulls up. Sometimes it's hidden behind another picture too. (That's why I said it's devious). I have a friend who's 11 year old son asked him if he could print out a Star Wars picture and when he clicked on it a porn picture popped up.
I think it gives teens and young men (also women, I guess) the wrong message of what sex is supposed to be like. It cheapens it, I feel. Yes, I've watched some of it when I was much younger. It's all about raw, graphic sex. There's no love, no caring of the other partner. It also shows people having sex with multiple partners and no protection, making it seem like a fun, safe thing to do when that's extremely dangerous.
So, no. I don't see any benefit whatsovever to watching porn. Can people honestly not come up with their own ideas in the bedroom? If it takes watching other people having sex in order for you to get turned on and have sex with your own partner then I think something's wrong there. Just my opinion! :)

by sammy73, Jan 05, 2009 06:05AM
I enjoy watching porn, and have no particular moral objections as long as the participants are willing consenting adults, and no-one gets hurt who doesn't like that sort of thing.

My wife enjoys porn occasionally, although not as much as me.  She happily watches or reads with me, and occasionally on her own too.  She has no jealousy issues related to porn (and vice versa), we can understand that we can get visual stimulation from looking at porn without it meaning anything about how we feel about each other.  She's even handed magazines to me to look at while we've been having sex.  We don't feel guilty or dirty or anything after using it.  I occasionally feel annoyed with myself, if I've been trying to limit myself as to how much I use it but have succumbed to temptation.

I'd like to make home movies.  The concept turns my wife on too I think, to discuss as a fantasy, but she'd never go through with it, she's more concerned about unintended consequences than I am.

Some porn can also be good in terms of giving you ideas of new things to try - positions, role-play, locations, toys, particular kinks you can explore...

I understand the risks of addiction, and at one point in my life it looked like it could become a problem, but I have got over it without needing to give up completely.  I realise that some people could find it harder to quit than I did, and it could become a serious problem.  I also realise that, for some people anyway, too much use of porn (depending on the genre) could result in a distorted attitude to sex and to women generally.  But, like so much else in life (e.g. alcohol) I would not support the banning of something that the majority can enjoy in a largely harmless way, just to keep it out of the hands of a few who cannot handle it.

by slow_healer, Jan 05, 2009 09:05AM
If they made porn more suited to my tastes, I'd probably watch it more. More and more I find it morally demoralizing if I'm not careful to screen it. The reason is pretty simple: 99% of the heterosexual porn out there aims solely to give the male viewer an erection. It takes little interest in whether or not the woman is physically pleasured by what the male actor(s) is doing. As long as she's moaning up a storm and begging for his banana, she's assumed to be loving it, but more often than not his main job is to "pound," "hammer", "rip open," or (uh) "rape" some hole-or-other. "Pounding" followed by a money shot is not particularly arousing for a fair number of women.

I don't forbid porn or would be the kind of partner to flip out if I found my partner enjoying it. But I am morally opposed to abuse, and do not enjoy images/graphics where it is blatantly obvious that the woman (or man, if it's gay porn) is completely miserable or drugged up (could be my bias, but I find what's freely available on the web often entails this). My partner feels similarly (also doesn't care for the money shot, or if the girl looks genuinely miserable). We can enjoy porn together, but we're careful with what we select.

FWIW written and graphic novel porn is the most satisfying for me, where I don't even have to deal with whether a real human being somewhere enjoyed or was coerced into the acts described.


by Questionman81, Jan 05, 2009 09:42AM
Well, you aren't watching 2 people having sex, you are watching 2 people using sex as vice.  See if you can detect a subtle infusing of negativity with the sex acts in porn.  Why are they all yelling curse words?  They are presenting sex in a negative way and it has gone almost undetected so as most people think they are just watching sex.  And when people feel bad about watching it they think it is because of their moral upbringing when in fact it is your sensing of the underlying negativity infused in the pornography.  And it is subtley working to develope this taste in you to blend sex and negativity and in extreme cases people become rapists and sexual predators when this instinct has been developed in them.  You will find it a rare thing that a sexual deviant person was not overly exposed to pornography.  Also  In this country the average rate of exposure to pornography is 8 years old and thats average meaning some much younger.  And the average 1st sexual experience is 16 years old meaning there is a conditioning of 8 years on average of masturbation to pornography that is infused with negativity.  It is no surprise in the rate of increase in sexual dysfunction in men as we are so desensitized to sex, and we are condemned for treating women like sex objects when that is simply our conditioning.  And I also feel science has used the teaching as masturbation as healthy to be a silent endorsement of pornography as they cannot rationally explain why it is bad and do not in sex education programs.  Science also doesnt explain the dangers of sex as vice because they dont know them, and when someone comes forward and tells them after themselves being sexually poisoned no one will listen because who wants to take advice form a deviant?  Its a big mess.  Be on guard against the world poeple protect your kids from pornography.

by ILADVOCATE, Jan 05, 2009 10:00AM
I'm not sure I go as far as you said regarding adults but as for kids no way should they be exposed to it. That's why parents should make sure they monitor what kids look up online and put a filter on their computers. In fact its best for kids to access the internet with their parents checking what they are accessing from time to time. As for adults its people's own lives and their decisions and they are free not to access it on the internet or buy it if they feel this strongly against it. A lot of people lead self destructive lifestyles but if someone has those tendencies it can occur in any area of their lives including relationships. People who have those tendencies need help. But that's another matter.

by drifter0213, Jan 05, 2009 11:24AM
I am a loner a drifter i would watch it had i the resources; i dont get out much: loneliness will kill your love- life ask me - drifter0213

by April2, Jan 05, 2009 11:41AM
Questionman81, I wholeheartedly agree with you, 100%.

by kimmieboogers, Jan 18, 2009 07:22AM
I like porn! I jus feel like sum of it is reaky deaky lol! Sum of it can be natural! I think it all depends on your fellings about sex! if you lke doin diff. things you watch dvd's! If u like natural you buy magzines with naked poses! My opnion is if ur 18yrs old or older and you like 2 watch alots of porn it's fine it dont make you a nasty person, and shouldnt make u feel nasty, if you do then mabey you should a diff. one @ the movie store with things you like 2 do! not all of it is hard core or weird!

by kimmieboogers, Jan 18, 2009 07:29AM
I also think its okay 2 make your own movies nothin, would be more exciting!  it cold be fun 4 th relationship! but if I was offerd 2 b in a magazine i would be , and if my man wanted 2 take pics or make our own pic iwould say yes! because I dont care how many times you do it diif ways you do it! it never gets old!

by brent22, Jan 18, 2009 08:42PM
I personally love porn, although sometimes (more in the past) its makes me feel pretty ****** about myself after I've watched it. But I've learned that its actually not such a bad thing, just depends.


by LOVELACE23, Jan 20, 2009 11:27AM
I feel nothing is wrong with watching it.i danced for 6 years and seen porn sold all day honestly the women look so torn up and discusting.i would rather watch lesbian porn even though its kinda boring atleast some dont look as bad as the ones that just do straight porn.i love terra patick she just has a ugly ponani.porn some times can help intense the moment but i really dont get into them anymore.:)

by teko, Jan 20, 2009 12:32PM
I think in the society we live in and in a close relationship with someone, it can be detrimental to the relationship unless both parties agree that nothin is wrong with it. It makes a lot of people feel inadequate somehow. Other societies where nudity and sexuality is looked at more freely, of course would think differently. Sort of like the forbidden fruit, in our society it is a turn on cause it is not acceptable by a lot of society standards. Me and my husband think it is silly, it embarrases me and makes me feel like I am looking in someones bedroom window and it makes  him laugh like crazy, a turnoff more than anything. Personal choice I guess.

by HelpinUtah, Jan 20, 2009 12:49PM
I personally think it's degrading and humiliating to the people making the porn films or pictures.  If you wouldn't want your children doing it or your family members, then I wouldn't want to watch it from anyone.  What makes those people different than your own children?  Just my opinion.  But, I also agree it's up to someone's personal beliefs and what they are comfortable with.  I am not comfortable with it!  

by 10356, Jan 20, 2009 02:58PM
Take the humanity out of sex and you have porn... I see it as rutting...

by teko, Jan 20, 2009 03:23PM
10356 said it best. Without love that is all it is, I agree wholeheartedly. lol

by HelpinUtah, Jan 20, 2009 03:39PM
I always seem to agree with 10356 - she's a wise woman!!!!  ;)

by guy865, Jan 22, 2009 02:00AM
porn is bad it depletes your desire for wanting something real. for me it does at least. thats why i stopped doing that type of thing. its like a quick fix but it isnt real and your body doesnt know that. destorts your views on people in general, like what to expect out of people. puts to much emphasis on sex and not on life.

by Mage1970, Jan 22, 2009 03:23AM
I'm a 100% straight guy and live with a Gay man, I see more gay porn pictures than I do straight.Walking into the lounge room and seeing a huge **** is normal . I haven't been in a relationship now for 7yrs if I didn't have a magazine to look at occasionally I'd probably tear it off !!! As for movies,they arouse me but thats it. I agree that a proportion of women in the industry are there because they have been abused but the majority are there because it's seen as easy money.The amature porn-HETRO-on the net available free or for less than the cost of renting a DVD is usually better than the professional " HARDER,FASTER, DEEPER,BANG ME BABY" stuff. Anybody caught in possession of CHILD porn should get the maximum sentence no ifs no buts.Anybody caught making child porn LIFE . Any ADULT caught in the act be it on tape or live DEATH . Unfortunately we don't have the death sentence in AUSTRALIA , MY PERSONAL OPINION ONLY but ALL PEDOPHILES SHOULD BE SHOT !!!!! Beastiality - SICK , The FBI web site states there has not been an actual snuff movie since the 60's and it was shot in South Africa,all the currently available ones are fakes.Still got to be a SICKO to want to watch someone die while doing it . MORALITY is individual , hell the the subject is individually subjective. Oh well you now know my opinion on the subject !!! Cheers to all CAIO

by glanzaf, Mar 03, 2009 06:49PM
i do watch porn but sometimes well i agree i do feel horny but not the way that i feel with my bf .... with my bf i feel more and more its because theres love and porn they just f**k each other and no love between then

from stephanie

by Mitch82, Mar 03, 2009 11:05PM
Porn can be ok, however it can distort ones views on sex and the opposite sex, I think one should be able to differentiate between the sex in porn and the sex you have in a relationship.  But it also has its educational values, I know that sounds dumb but when I was a teenager I wouldn't have had a clue about sex or the opposite sex without seeing some porn, however I knew that the movies displayed the act rather than the realities behind the act and I knew that real sex would not be like this.  Porn is something that can become an addiction, and generally not a substitute for sex, people are searching for something else.  I don't think that porn diminishes the desire for real sex, as the nature urge for this can be quite strong.  Just my thoughts anyway

by jayman1ppu, Mar 24, 2009 02:01PM
My view of it is complicated. On one hand, it's usually my only form of stimulation. Never really had ANY relationship. And, it's 100% safe. Guess that's the plight of an "average joe." However, I eventually always feel like **** afterwards, knowing that is morally wrong and feeling down about myself that I can't have the real thing.

What can I say, I'm a living breathing paradox.




by zaire, Jun 28, 2009 08:53PM
I think porn is wrong, Even myself I 'm struggling with porn right now. I want to stop watching it. It doesn't do any good. I'm 26 years old , and I 'm asking myslef what is going on with myself ? Can anybody just give me a word of advice what to do? I'm trying to continue with my college education, but Porn has been to the center of my head all the time.

by April2, Jun 28, 2009 09:32PM
The best way to get away from it is to block all access to it. Don't even let temptation into your home. And stay busy with your studies and other wholesome activities. It can be overcome just like any addiction. You just have to really want to overcome it. Best wishes!

by peggy64, Jun 29, 2009 08:02AM
for all you that agree with it, then you have no problem if your mother, daughter, sister, neices, or aunt does porn flicks, right?

If you have a problem with it, why would you not want them doing something you think is ok?  

by qwerty322, Jun 29, 2009 10:18PM
I watched porn but it depends on my standard not kind porn that "child or other porn that are not standard.  i see it in  different way . Porn has it own good and bad side of it.. they said,  too much is bad... but for me as long u know what ur doing, keeping ur standard high, moral.. i dont feel sinned about it... even my wife watch it.. as long ur in control... its not that bad.. and  this issue had been for centuries and nobody is getting hurt about it.. no sex crime records seem cause by watching too much porn - just my opinion.

by uniqueflower, Jul 20, 2009 08:28PM
I dont think watching porn is immoral, especially if your wife knows about it and doesn't mind.  Porn can actually be a good thing for marriages, especially if you are having problems in the bed.  If you've ever watched Dr. Ruth on TV, she always recommends adult movies for couples having issues.  Even if your not having issues, it can spice up your sex life, letting you try new things.

I dont have a moral opinion on sex, in fact, I think porn is good.  Without it, I believe cheating rates (and even rape) would even be higher.  Like anything, some people can get addicted to it, but I think it has its place in all our lives:

- Before we start dating, it helps guys learn to have sex (even though a lot of it is pure fiction)
- When we are dating, it can definetly help out with couples trying new things
- When we are married, it can help us from wondering away (business trips) and cheating, and it can help spice up marriages
- And throughout life, it can be a great tool to aide in masterbation, which for the vast majority of people, is an essential part of life

Just my two cents.

by jprime, Sep 02, 2009 12:57PM
For a long time i questioned my porn habbit because I think I was watching way to much of it. I know and have went to school with a few girls who are porn  stars and actually one of them found God and has totaly changed her life. I have mixed feeling about it but i think at the end of the day porn is probably pretty imoral i recently saw something on youtube called " dead porn stars" and Its pretty sad how many of them die , its not even that they die of aids though some did, alot died of alcohol poisining drug over dose and a few of them even commited suicide do to how they felt about them selfes and the kind of life style they lead . Personaly i have watched plenty of porn i have used porn for masterbation and even watched it with a chick or two to make things a little more kinky but I dont think I could come  home every day after a shoot and feel good about my self and my relationship with god, I'm sure that sounds a bit hipocritical but I dont know I guess theres a difference in watching and using it as a means of income. Not to mention how many familys porn probably ruins. Every women in porn is some bodys daughter and god knows how many girls are no longer aloowed to be at their parents home because of their career choice.

by mami1323, Sep 02, 2009 01:14PM
I'm wondering if anyone had seen the MTV True Life - I'm addicted to porn episode.  It really gives an understanding of how bad it can get.  This man had a wife and kids and he was kicked out of his home because he couldn't stop looking at porn.  She gave him an ultimatum, either stop all together and he can come home or they divorce.  No matter how badly he wanted to come home and be with his family, he just couldn't stop looking at it.  He went to therapy and considered going away to a rehab facility.  I still think in the end, he just didn't want to give it up.  He was married to his hs sweetheart and still he couldn't stop.  It was amazing to see how it can be such an addiction to some.  

by JoyRenee, Sep 02, 2009 01:25PM
My husband and I respect each other, and each others' bodies. We also respect other peoples' privacy and their bodies in modesty. Therefore we do not watch porn. Some things are meant to be private and seeing someone else's pleasure and lust and nakedness is not attractive at all. It is perversion and disgusting. I feel like a voyeur if watching porn or something similar.

Women and men need to respect themselves and build honest relationships; not make pornos and "sell" their sex to an invisible audience. I feel sorry for women involved in pornography as many of them do it just for the money and they almost always have very low self-esteem and are abused.

My husband used to have a porn problem. We have a very open relationship in the sense that he is able to come to me, when he's feeling tempted, and talk about it and why he's feeling that way. And yes, he does talk to me. There've been a couple slip-ups and I don't get angry. I do feel hurt. But we talk it through and I forgive him. It's been a very long time since anything has happened.

For the record, my husband is a youth pastor, Vance. We all make mistakes and slip-up. We all have a vice or a specific sin that always captures us. The point is to forgive yourself and open up to your wife. Enlist her help and accountability. If you feel tempted, and you know she is a safe person to talk to, talk to her. Check out xxxchurch.com.


jprime- was the girl you went to school with named Anne? At least I think that's the person I am thinking of. Anyway, I met a few ex-porn stars on MySpace when I still had an account. They're Christians now and they're trying to help get other prostitutes and porn stars out of that life. The stories they'd share, the testimonies of the women enslaved in this business... so heartbreaking and tender!

by AHP84, Sep 02, 2009 02:22PM
So many people ask if one would be okay if they knew their daughter, mother, sister, niece, etc. were involved in the porn industry, or was a porn star and chose that route in life. What about sons, brothers, fathers, nephews, etc.?
I can understand that in quite a few cases, women are the ones vicimized in these cases, but at the same time, what does that tell anyone about the kind of boys we're raising into these men in this culture? Does this not matter to anyone? Is it always about the little girls and victimized young women? If that's the case, it seems we are looking at all the symptoms of the porn problem and not the actual reality--what kind of upbringing are boys getting that are leading them down the path of sexually objectifying women and reducing themselves to animalistic behavior for sex?
I know if my little boy ever became invovled in pornography, whether it be involved in the industry or just part of the audience, it would break my heart and I would ask myself each and every day, where did I go wrong?
I do not watch porn and I find everything about it disgusting and degrading. I don't want to see the most intimate, personal act of love between two people (heterosexual--I won't even get onto the subject of homosexual porn) get displayed for the world to see for a profit, and degraded and made to be totally meaningless for pleasure. I don't even remotely enjoy graphic sex scenes on PG-13 or R rated movies.

by jprime, Sep 02, 2009 02:43PM
joyrenee- the girls are Nadia styles and audrey bitoni audrey is still in the buisness but nadia isnt. She's the one that got out that i spoke off

by Peter65925, Sep 19, 2009 01:12AM
Hi Vance-my humble opinion. I always thought this thing about porn addiction was a religious joke.Yet, as I got Internet earlier this year, I find my work has decreased, and much of what I search out is gay porn. I just entered "gay porn" and was shocked by some of what popped up, which I would condider child porn. I actually went as far as contacting our local police about this. Now I see that chilligeffects have prompted Google to take some of it away, but irritatingly, it is still there. Some say masturbation is the sin of Onan and Gammorah. I'm not so sure about that, but it is a wide distraction, and in that sense, even as a liberal, I would say, it functions like a drug. Peter.  

by joggen, Sep 19, 2009 10:52AM
Masturbation is a healthy, normal part of human sexuality. For me, there is no moral difference whether the fantasies that accompany it are played out completely in my head, or are aided or played out by actors in a movie who are doing it through their own consent. I am single, and have seen how my friends' attitudes toward adult entertainment venues such as strip bars changed after they got married, but I don't think that should apply to porn since it is so sterile (at least for the viewer).

I think the societal benefits of porn are really under-appreciated. For single men, it is essential to have an outlet. Without porn, I think the prevalence of street prostitution would be at least 10x higher, and therefore there would be much more violence against women in society.

For those who have asked the question- it wouldn't really bother me if I had a sister who was a porn actress, provided that she addressed the primary safety issue involved through consistent use of condoms. I would be much more concerned if she were escorting, since there is a risk of violence in that trade. I often didn't like the guys that my sisters' dated when I was growing up, but I never butted my nose in their business. Most women who act in porn use it as a transition job, anyway, and get out after 1-2 years.


by Peter65925, Sep 20, 2009 08:14PM
Although I am a proud gay man and am not anti-porn per se, I have seen and read now that many of the actors in "twink" (young movies) begin their "career" in some east-European hell-hole. Many of them become "usleless" and HIV-positive very young. That certainly doesn't go for all "porn", but most of it has lost its flavor, and no longer can turn me on, because it becomes a human rights issue.

by LIZZIE LOU, Sep 20, 2009 09:33PM
go to youtube and do a search for "dead porn stars".   this is what porn does...............................

by smjmekg, Sep 20, 2009 11:32PM
I didn't read all of the replies to your journal, but would like to give my two cents. I for one have a major problem with porn. I know some may call me crazy, but for me my husband watching porn is like him cheating. Look at it this way, you are masturbating while watching someone/people performing sexual acts or masturbating themselves. What's the difference between cheating and watching porn? You're physically with someone when you're physically cheating, and you're just "doing it yourself" when you're not physically cheating. If someone enjoys porn, and likes to watch it, that is on them. My husband watched it while he was away from me in Korea, and in the eight months that I have been in Korea he has watched it. He denies it every time I find it, but since our fourteen month old son doesn't know how to use the computer, and besides him it's just my husband and I in our apartment, and I don't watch it...it hurt me when I knew he watched it. I was in Florida, living with my parents, raising a newborn...and he was watching porn. I couldn't be there for him sexually, and he used other women, although it was on a screen, instead. Now that I'm here in Korea, I'm more than willing anytime of day, but sometimes he'd rather watch porn. I've talked to my husband and told him how I felt, and he has stopped from my understanding, but occasionally I do wonder. My ex before my husband used to watch porn almost daily, and it ruined our relationship, he was always saying things like "I wish you would do this, and I wish you would do that" because women on these videos were doing these things. I'm not a big "freak" when it comes to sex, I like to make love, but my ex wanted things I wasn't willing to do, so he watched women doing them. I have seen pornos before, and I personally think it's disgusting. Most of the women are tiny, with big fake breasts, and that puts this image of how women should look into some people's heads. We can't all be models, I'm in no way a big woman, but I'm not the size of a model. I personally think women in the adult film industry, and models are the cause of so many women's self esteem issues. We're under so much pressure to be thin, and fit into size 0 jeans. I feel very uncomfortable when I see sex in movies, or nudity, because am one of those women who have self esteem issues because of the way I look. I do feel bad when I'm surrounded by tiny women, because like I said I'm not that small. Seeing all the tv commercials with half naked women, and the movies...it does affect many people, and I'm sure it's the same for some men too. It's an unwritten vow for me, you pick who you want to marry, and you promise to love them and be with them and them only for the rest of your life. It's not you promise to be with them, but watch other women and get off to them for the rest of your life. You're committed to one person. I understand some men just want to do it themselves once in a while because it's easier, but that doesn't mean you have to watch porn to do it, God gave us all an imagination for a reason, what's wrong with imagining your wife/girlfriend? Some couples watch it together, and that's fine, but not me.

by NautyOne, Sep 21, 2009 12:27AM
Omg!! give me a break.....far from cheating, but it is addictive!!....go figure.  everything that makes us feel good is addicting..........

You never seen anyone addicted to Liver........



by teko, Sep 21, 2009 08:59AM
Nughty! YOU CRAZY!

The Good Book says!  If you look at a woman with lust, you have already committed adultry in your heart! Pretty much sums it up for all us idjets who believe in the Bible.  Those who dont can go on wandering in the wilderness till you find yer answer. Plain and simple, it is wrong on any level including the first one Thinking on it!

by bobbopcr, Sep 21, 2009 09:40AM
Sure, but back in the days of the Good Book people were only married for about five years before one of them died.  Marriages lasting 30+ years is a relatively new thing, i.e. people are blazing new trails here.  Can't we see porn as any other aspect of our lives -- some of it can be good (for example for spicing up a marriage) and too much can be bad?

On the other hand:  I think porn can definitely be addicting, but so can alcohol.  You never heard of anyone who watched a bunch of porn and then went and beat their kids as a result of it.  

Besides, the Bible also says you shouldn't covet your neighbor's goods.  Does that mean I'm a thief if I really want my housemate's ipod?


by Peter65925, Sep 23, 2009 01:28PM
The question is: what defines porn? A range of non-biological sexual fetishes turn a variety of people on. For some "Porn" could be a whipping scene from "Mutiny on the Bounty". Victorians even regarded tracts of the Bible as worthy of censorship and as "porn" (mainly for young women, for example, the Songs of Solomon, and the various punishment scenes). Laurence 'O Toole suggests in "Pornoccopia" that porn is made with NO OTHER PURPOSE than to excite sexually. This raises a lot of questions on war propaganda and porn, particularly the Abu Ghraib depictions from the S/M torture chamber and their treatment by the US right-wing. The question is also whether religious anti-porn campaigns are really anti-masturbation campaigns, which would take us back a century or so. The problem with Internet porn is that one searches for one thing and a another, new thing pops up. Ultimately what turns people on cannot be legislated (unless we want an age restriction on religious texts - in Hong Kong this did happen when the Bible was restricted for sale in plastic covers to over eighteens). One does not need porn to masturbate, but with the Internet, I cannot say it is not dangerous or addictive. Oh well, back to watching Ben-Hur!
Luv,
Peter.  

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