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Nov 02, 2007 - 14 comments

Methadone/Opiate withdrawal Dr. David Arneson
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‘There is no free lunch'

I believe in the search for truth…the following monograph is what I know to be true about the use and withdrawal from methadone. I also understand that in life, the truth is constantly evolving.  My 18 years on the road to recovery probably taints my judgment somewhat…but friends—I know recovery from the bottom rung. I’ve written countless e-mail replies to those of you who wish to discontinue methadone. In order to save myself time I’ve decided to write as much as I can on one, or two, pages…the truth as I see it…to assist you in your endeavor. I will be adding and subtracting as more information is made available. Certainly, you may perceive your truth to be different. If you think that going to the methadone clinic every morning to get your dose for the rest of your life…gives you quality of life…then read no further and God bless you. I assure you, the standard medical establishment does not have an answer for withdrawal. In fact, the new way of thinking is that many of you will have to be on methadone for the rest of your lives. Nothing could be farther from the truth. They will try and convince you that sudden withdrawal will cause your untimely demise. Another falsehood, although the truth is you may feel like you’re dying. I consistently work with people stopping cold turkey and have better luck than lowering  the dose over time.,  I’ve NEVER had an in-house methadone withdrawal case leave the program early…all have gone cold turkey from 60-150 mg per day…Many do this without the aid of  other mind-altering prescriptive drugs…even though I’m licensed to prescribe these drugs. There are exceptions, for those that I detox out-patient, and for those that are on other medications when they come in for treatment…I’ll cover those medications in the following paragraphs. Personally, I urge all to consider in-house Detox for methadone…especially if going cold turkey. Although in my personal experience I’ve never seen any advantage in lowering the dose over time. Especially, if one is at 45 mg or less per day.  Methadone Detox can normally be accomplished in 3-5 weeks. For information on natural methadone detox, in-patient, please visit   http://www.theriversource.org  

The most important issue in treatment for withdrawal is not so much treating the disease state but treating the individual. One specific protocol designed to treat a disease is standard medicine’s answer to all disease states. This is mechanistic medicine. It does not take into account our genetic variability…we respond to treatment in different ways…not just through biochemistry, but also on the emotional and spiritual levels. For the last 4 years I’ve been using nutrition—Intravenous and oral—to rebuild and repair the biochemistry pathways in the body and mind. Over four years experience —this includes heroin, and all other street drugs, alcohol, and prescription medications--has taught me that natural detox works 100 times better than detox formulated and predicated by the use of other mind altering chemicals.  It is also important to recognize that there are many of you that were prescribed methadone for chronic pain. Yet one must recognize that the end result is the same—and therefore the remedies for withdrawal are the same.   One more important point is that emotional and spiritual supports are necessary in this journey back to health. It would be rare that a person is not stretched to the absolute limit—body, mind, and spirit--in the process of withdrawing from methadone. Those who chose to do this alone, rarely succeed. The support of family, friends, or even the 12-step programs are important adjuncts to this journey.   One final point needs to made about the use of methadone. There are those that were put on methadone for pain management. This occurs because opiates in general—while good acute therapy—are not good choices for chronic long-term pain. The body adjusts to opiate therapy by down regulating opiate receptors and the patient will eventually build a tolerance to the standard opiates like vicodin,  percocet, or oxycontin just to name a few. Methadone is the last ditch effort to control pain…unfortunately, the use of methadone usually creates more long-term health problems. The other unfortunate aspect of taking someone off methadone—those that have been using it to treat chronic pain—is what will be used to control pain in the future. There has been some movement in treating pain with anti-depressants with poor results. Furthermore, long term opiate use eventually create what is termed the opiate pain syndrome…which simply is the fact that the receptors are so down regulated that the opiate have nothing to act on…and that’s why opiate therapy doesn’t work over the long term…For many of those with chronic pain, choices have to be made…and the withdrawal from methadone will be especially trying…but it can be done following the protocols listed below…as your body heals and the receptors are synthesized in the body your own enkephlins and endorphins (natural body opiates) will start to be interactive in pain management…this may not be enough…yet many cases of chronic pain will subside if serotonin levels in the brain can be increased—the reason for doing amino acid therapy is to increase these levels. Anti-depressants don’t increase the production of anything over the long term…in fact it is well known that in the long term they decrease levels of neurotransmitters such as serotonin. Amino acids therapies work well on most cases of fibromyalgia even though many of these patients will fall victim to the use of methadone which just creates more problems. The good news is that if a fibromyalgia patient will start the following protocols to get off methadone…these are the same basic protocols for treating Fibromyalgia…  

1)      Most Methadone clinics are for profit, private enterprises, do you really think they want you off the methadone. The cost of a dose of methadone is about $1.00…what are they charging you?  
2)      Since all associated therapists and counselors that work the methadone clinics are trained and get their information from the standard medical establishment…do you really think they know the truth…no one is saying that they are not caring individuals--but they don’t know the truth anymore than the people who prescribe the medication to you. If fact most of them think we’re idiots because we doubt and ask questions. The fact is that we do not know the long range effects of methadone on the human body and mind…many are now thinking that the longer you are on the methadone the more profound, and possibly irreversible these changes may be…In fact we don’t know the exact mechanism of action of many psychotropic drugs—just review the Physicians Desk Reference on Prozac…along with the countless other caustic chemicals we insist on putting in the human body.  
3)      Methadone is one of the most physically dependent medications invented in the 20th century. The reason for this is a) its long half-life (24-36 hours)…b) it is a synthetic morphine, c) the diabolic symptomology associated with withdrawal and the length of the withdrawal symptoms. Methadone, like all opioids creates profound changes to gastrointestinal function… In layman’s terms this means that regardless of the food you eat--absorption of the vital nutrients is impaired. If nutrients cannot be absorbed in sufficient quantities and associated quality…all biochemical pathways in the body are affected negatively.  Chronic fatigue, sleeplessness, aches and pains, depression, anxiety, are all signs and symptoms of these deficiencies. Methadone also has profound effects on brain neurotransmitter production and function. It is also known that it creates havoc in what is called the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis…which accounts for the chronic fatigue.  And like all opiates, methadone down-regulates opiate receptors in the human body thus the long lasting aches and pains associated with withdrawal. Methadone withdrawal is particularly insidious because, left untreated; these symptoms can last literally for months. Also the longer you are on methadone the more profound these changes in body and mind function.
4)      Regardless of the level you decrease the dose before quitting…you will suffer some level of withdrawal…Frankly, I’ve never been able to discern much difference in the withdrawal intensity between 1 mg or 80 mg…it’s always difficult. The withdrawal is unique to each individual…I’ve had some come off 65 mg or more, and while uncomfortable, hardly seem to break a sweat. Others coming off low doses and be in pure agony. One must treat the individual, not the disease.   Nutritional treatment is essential in the recovery and withdrawal phase of any type of drug or alcohol dependency. To clarify nutritional treatment, consider the following statement: The body on methadone, or any other mind altering drug or alcohol, is like the house that has been damaged in a storm. If you were repairing the house what building materials would you need? You would need lumber, sheet rock, shingles, and etc for the major supplies…these are the equivalent of the bodies need for protein, carbohydrates, and fats. How would you hold everything together?…nuts and bolts, nails, and screws—these are the equivalent of the bodies need for vitamins and minerals.  To make the repairs we need the proper tools to cut the lumber and fit it into place…one would need the saws, the equivalent of the bodies production of enzymes…these are made from the proteins we eat…one can draw analogy after analogy to explain the necessity for nutritional treatment to facilitate one back to health…only one thing needs to be clearly understood…you put back into the body the things it needs to come back to health.  Any nutritional therapy should be adhered to for at least 90 to 180 days regardless of how you feel.  Just like it takes time to alter profoundly the body’s biochemistry with drugs…it takes time to repair with proper nutrition. Oral nutrition is best but often is difficult for those in their first week of detox and recovery. Proteins, complex carbs, and essential fatty acids are necessary building blocks for repair and return of proper function of organ systems and brain neurochemistry. Vitamins and minerals are “co-factors and co-enzymes” which work on the building blocks to do repair and rebuilding. Additionally, it is always counter-productive to move from the complex to the simple…my philosophy is to start simple and move to the level of complexity that works for you…remember all patients are unique in the way they process nutrients and in their ability to maximize therapy.  For more information on these necessary supplements go to www.happydestinysupplements.com  

The following I suggest for those who wish to detox out-patient:  
1)      Pharmaceuticals:
Clonidine 0.1, or 0.2 mg, twice to three times per day. Clonidine is an anti-hypertensive medication that is commonly utilized in opiate withdrawal syndromes. You must come off this medicine slowly—rebound hypertension may occur…especially if you already have high blood pressure…this medication is non-addicting;
Vistaril 50-100mg…three times daily…this is a sedating antihistamine which helps with anxiety and sleep…down side is that after 10 days or so it loses its therapeutic efficacy;
Phenergan 25 mg tab…one every 6 hours for nausea and cramps.  I may use these medications on my out/in-patient clients depending on the severity of symptoms.
Imodium A/D works well for diarrhea.

2)  Intra-Venous Nutritional therapy: In patient or out-patient…typically every day for the first 5-6 days, than every other day until the symptomology has subsided. These nutrient bags can contain proteins, vitamins, electrolytes, and other elements necessary for the body-mind to heal. The advantage of IV therapy is that all essential cofactors bypass compromised gut function. Only when the healing occurs will the symptoms of withdrawal disappear totally. Diarrhea is uncommon in those that receive IV nutrient therapy…but for those not so fortunate, Imodium A-D seems to work well in most. If your are a medical professional and wish I.V. treatment protocols contact me at ***@****  

3)  Oral nutrition: Increase the right proteins!!!! Proteins are the building blocks for neurotransmitters and neurotransmitter receptors…as well as the building blocks for your natural opiate receptors ·        For 3 weeks you must remove all red meats from your diet. Red meat has chemical components that increase inflammation and pain. Fish, chicken, eggs are good sources of protein. If you are having a hard time taking in solid foods go to a health food store and buy protein powders that can be made into smoothies or drinks. You absolutely must have increased protein intake…proteins are the building blocks for all enzymes, neurotransmitters, and enzyme receptors in the body. No chemical works in the body without receptors. Just like opioids have to have opioid receptors—which are down regulated during methadone use—this is the reason people have long-lasting pain and aggravation coming off methadone…this isn’t much of a problem with heroin use because of it’s short half-life…proteins are essential for the repair work in recovery…I now use a formulation made by Neuroresearch…their Neuroreplete/D-5 protein formulas works well for those coming off of methadone, methamphetamines and benzodiazepines or any drug for that matter…for more information on this product go to www.neuroresearch.com or www.neuroreplete.com and try to find a doctor close to you that will help you get his product…in fact I treat all my methadone withdrawal patients with this formula · *L-Methionine—a sulfur bearing amino acid…necessary for the production of S-Adenosyl-methionine (SAM-e)…SAM-e is a necessary cofactor in the production of the master neurotransmitters—serotonin, dopamine, adrenalin, and nor-adrenalin…this must be added to any amino acid therapy directed at rebuilding neurotransmitter production and function…500 mg—two twice per day
        
*Increase your intake of raw fruits and vegetables…you get little or nothing from canned foods…fresh fruits and veges are loaded with fiber which help bind and remove toxins from your body…they also normalize gut function ·        Stay off candy, and other sugar heavy foods ·      

* Drink lots of good water, green teas are good for the antioxidants and anti-inflammatory properties…no cokes or soda waters for three weeks ·        When capable you must start exercising…swimming is best because it is low impact exercise…yoga…tai chi…walking daily…detoxing or otherwise…exercise is a normal component of good health Supplements: Some need less and some more…remember the efficacy of all nutrition and supplement use is ultimately guided by your genetics…and we are all different to some degree…This is the value of seeing a good Naturopathic physician in the state you are in…The fact is that very few Medical Doctors know anything about nutrition…70%-75% of the standard medical schools in this country have absolutely no nutritional classes what-so-ever…in the other 25 %--nutrition is often a 14-20 hour block of education and this is commonly an elective…Naturopathic physicians that are educated in a medical school environment are taught nutrition extensively with the associated biochemistry. ·        I use the following with all types of drug and alcohol recovery…. ·        

*Multivitamin with a strong mineral component: in gel caps only…an excellent quality multivitamin is absolutely necessary…remember that vitamins and minerals are cofactors/coenzymes for repair, healing, and normal function of the body…most times I have patients double up on multivitamins for the first 3-4 weeks ·        

*Mineral complex: see above ·      

* Fish oils, or flax seed oil.: necessary for repair and proper function of cellular membranes…anti-inflammatory…these need to be mixed omega 3, omega 6, omega 9 oils—4000 to 6000 mg per day in split doses…although some can be purchased as liguids and mixed with your smoothies. ·  If you don’t do the drinks…get proteins as free amino acids…double up ·        

*L-Glutamine 500mg caps…at least 2000-3000 mg per day…split the dose so that your doing it at least twice per day…helps heal the gut and the building block for GABA…the primary inhibitory neurotransmitter…helps slow things down…Do not take GABA as a supplement…GABA is make in the brain…when out side the brain the molecule is to large to cross the blood brain barrier…the building block for GABA is L-Glutamine or Glutamic acid…these building blocks readily cross the blood brain barrier.  ·        

*Valarian Root 450 mg: Botanical that reduces anxiety and helps one to sleep…Kava, Jamaican Dog Wood, Lemon Balm, Avena are all nervine botanicals which can be used together or by self…I find the doses for each individual varies but typically 1000 to 1500 mg every 4 hours. ·        

*Melatonin…dosages vary…this is a hormone released from the pinal gland in the human body at night time for sleep…this is essential for those coming off opioids…in my experience as little as 1 mg to 30 mg has been effective…do what you have  to do…I’ve had addicts coming off $100.00 a day habits sleep 4 hours the first night…start low and add 3-5 mg every half-hour till sleep…research on healthy volunteers using up to 100 mg of melatonin in a single dose shows little side effects…Melatonin is also known as a very strong antioxidant with 1000 times the potency as Vit E…Take only at night when you would be going to bed at the regular time…the room must be dark…that’s the way this hormone is released in the natural state… ·        

*Full Spectrum antioxidants: relieves inflammation and helps normalize inflammatory pathways and reduces damaging molecules (free radicals) present in the system while detoxing ·        

*Vitamin C: 2000-3000 mg per day divided doses… ·        

*Reduced L-Glutathione 300mg per day: Helps liver detox metabolites of methadone…Detoxing agents can be found in many products…most in combinations… ·        

*Adrenal Support: Research has shown that methadone, and drug use in general, has profound effects on the adrenal glands. In fact, research shows that there is a profound negative effect by methadone on the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis. This is why those that withdraw from methadone have protracted fatigue and problems with anxiety and insomnia. I often use freeze dried adrenal extracts in treatment with fairly good results. You’ll find these products listed under names such as Adrenal Plus, or Adrenplus…the starting dose is around 1000 mg per day in split doses. ·

*Milk Thistle with alpha-Lipoic Acid is one combination that I use extensively---for liver repair and detoxification…1200 to 1500 mg of milk thistle and 400 mg of lipoic acid per day in split doses


This is the basics. There is absolutely no way to eliminate all the problems associated with withdrawal from methadone...one must have a supportive environment and often with daily visits from a compassionate health care provider…This will not kill you…it will be a miserable event…what kills most is the movement back to street drugs to ward off the side effects of withdrawal. If fact, cold turkey deaths coming off opioids and methadone are rare and usually associated with other health problems, or overdosing on prescription medications…withdrawal from methadone is much less of a risk than total withdrawal from alcohol. I wish you all luck on this endeavor…My compassion and empathy goes out to you…Ultimately, I know that you can do this…after all…it has to be done.  

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by seriouslyscared, Nov 03, 2007
WOW>  I have literally been praying for some at home remedies, you see i have exhausted all of my money to the meth. clinic, who originally was to help me get off hydrocodone.  Whatever.  They take my 80dollars a week, and send me on my way.  As long as you stay clean on urine screens, their happy.  This information is incredible, to say the least.  Thank you so very much.  I wish you were here in Memphis, TN.  I am a nurse and I have found that they are the hardest to treat because we know just enough to get ourselves right back in trouble!!!!  If you are able please let me know about how much this treatment plan involves as far as money, from the start.  There are a lot of ingredients to purchase.  Surely it isn't more than 300dollars a month.  I just want to feel better and it has been long enough.  I abused for 16 years and have been taking methadone for about 2 years now.  Once again thank you for all you information.

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by natalile, Nov 26, 2007
WOW you have to pay for you methadone. That's rubbing salt in the wound, But if it was like that in the UK. Mabey we wouldn't have so many meth addict's. I have found this really good. I've been addicted for 6 year's to methadone ( not to mantion herion, crack, benzo's & smoke pot ). But i didn't no half that stuff. Well most of it really. They don't give you info. They feel like there controling you addiction when it given in the uk. They say it's cleaner thatn heroin & yes of course there righ what they leave out is that it's a hell of alot harder to come of. I was on 90 nl a day then they put it up to 110ml without even asking me. as i was still giving positive's for smack. That make's sence eh. I was still useing so they put my meth up lol. I've gotton down to 50 ml & it's not been easy. Now i now how to help myself with your help thank you so much. There should be a link on the forum to this info as many would benifit
Thank's nat xx :)


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by scaredOFreality, Mar 27, 2008
wow this is alot of stuff to remember...do u have to take ALL of them for opiates?? What can you do untill the cheque comes in if you dont have a doctor??

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by dump_opiods, Jul 17, 2009
A call to any1/some1 who knows, please give me some advice:

the words of dr Arenson gave some hope... i was one on tramdol, 900mg for 4 months,.. after a siezure i got from overdosing (1200mg), my body started acting wierdly to the emdication ,heart beats, etc... then i stopped suddenly and was given a horrible combination of 3aggressive antidepressants (cymabalta, trazadone ,remeron)( + 3 psychitric medications+ tranqulizers which derstroyed my body comptly in 2weeks... i devloped the symptoms while i was on the medications (begen 2hrs after i took them)....my blood pressure sky rocketed (im only 22) to 180/90 and remained so for a month  ( yet all my blood etsts were good)...i devloped extreme diblalting symptoms of chronic pain, inculding swolen painful eyes, extremly lethargic, exhausted heart (which suddenly ebcome senssitve for hte firts to suagry /salty foods), extreme intoleranc eot heat (my skin would feel ike needles), extrme light hypersnsity, sound, just about everyhting... some1 please help me...does any1 ever develop chronic fatigue so severe from opiod/psychitic medications? some1 please tell me what to do. ive gone all natural and it has helped a lot.. i just want some1 to tell me if its normal to experienc eosmething this harsh, does it go away? ive neevr had anyhting like this ebfore..yet blood tests r ok. im suppose to go to un iin sept, can i make it? is there anything that cna help speed reocvery?

im grateful to every1 and any1 who can help with even something small, THank u soo much.

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by dump_opiods, Jul 17, 2009
hi again...

i just want to mention i was on fentanyl/methadone for a period of 3months before i took tramdol... i had a wash out period of 4months, in it i was given cymbalta (120mg) for 2 months +tranqulizers... before all this drs experminetd wiht me for a bout a yr with so mnay psychatric medcaitons ofr my pains, all horrible, worthless. could all of this have contributed to the chornic fatigue syndrome i developed... i can hardly move about..i heard of something called protracted sympotms that last for months , evne a year or a little more...but can they really be this severe?

God help us all.



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by kev911truth, Aug 13, 2009
You might want to go into rehab for a few weeks that way if anything happens you will have nurses and doctors who ca treat you with medications for the withdrawal. I would suggest amino acid therapy, natural pain killing herbs, natural sleeps aids( (Melatonin, Valerian Root), for depression 5htp or SamE can help, also dlpa and turmeric. B vitamins are a must, omegas are also going to speed up the recovery giving the brain fuel to get operating normally.

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by VicodinMan, Jun 27, 2010
Hi Dr. David Arneson,

NEED ENERGY!

I am off vicodin for 4 days now and diulaudad for over 6 weeks. (I was taking up to 8 - 750's a day for over 8 years for pain). I have been supplementing for 6 months and will add your suggestions to my current list. My question is what supplements can I take to get my energy back?

I have been taking good multis (Solgar V-75 - B-50 - D3 - K2 - CQ10 - C & E), Core Adrenal Support, Niacin, plenty of digestive enzymes, Cell Food (for free redicals), St. John's Wort and plenty of probiotics & magnesium, protien powder, L-Arginine & L-Carnitine, and Acai Berry. I am now trying Ribose, Malic Acid & Raw Adrenal to try and boost my energy level as I have no motivation. What else can I try? I am also considering caffeine pills.

While taking vicodin at age 46, I could load and unload a 16 ft trailer doing weekly auctions and I was excited about getting it done fast as I would buy at one auction on Tuesday and sell at another Thursday unloading and loading to repair/replace/restore merchandise Wed thru Sunday and then sell at another auction 1 weekend every month. Plus I would hold (Ring Man) my products during the auctions. Now without the vicodin, I can barely carry a box of paper and forget about bending over.

I have been my own boss almost my whole life and I need the energy to work so I can feed myself & my wife.

I am glad I found you as I basically figured all this so far on my own. I knew someone like you existed as I believe from my experience, you are correct!

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by VicodinMan, Jun 27, 2010
Hi Dr. David Arneson,

NEED ENERGY!

I am off vicodin for 4 days now and diulaudad for over 6 weeks. (I was taking up to 8 - 750's a day for over 8 years for pain). I have been supplementing for 6 months and will add your suggestions to my current list. My question is what supplements can I take to get my energy back?

I have been taking good multis (Solgar V-75 - B-50 - D3 - K2 - CQ10 - C & E), Core Adrenal Support, Niacin, plenty of digestive enzymes, Cell Food (for free redicals), St. John's Wort and plenty of probiotics & magnesium, protien powder, L-Arginine & L-Carnitine, and Acai Berry. I am now trying Ribose, Malic Acid & Raw Adrenal to try and boost my energy level as I have no motivation. What else can I try? I am also considering caffeine pills.

While taking vicodin at age 46, I could load and unload a 16 ft trailer doing weekly auctions and I was excited about getting it done fast as I would buy at one auction on Tuesday and sell at another Thursday unloading and loading to repair/replace/restore merchandise Wed thru Sunday and then sell at another auction 1 weekend every month. Plus I would hold (Ring Man) my products during the auctions. Now without the vicodin, I can barely carry a box of paper and forget about bending over.

I have been my own boss almost my whole life and I need the energy to work so I can feed myself & my wife.

I am glad I found you as I basically figured all this so far on my own. I knew someone like you existed as I believe from my experience, you are correct!

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by Defiler, Jul 29, 2010
THIS GUY IS SPOT ON....

First time I saw this I thought "here we go another naturopathic sales pitch".

After just detoxing from 10 years on methadone and the first week no sleeping, leg crawling etc. in pure agony I found this guys post and gave it a try.

IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE!!!!.

If you had a bad cold/flu and coudln't eat properly and had diarrohea so anything you did eat didn't get absorbed how much longer do you think it would take you to get better?

Melatonin and Valerian Root got rid of the pounding in the back of my head the first night I took them.

Couldn't find L-Methylanine so used L-Tyrosine and L-Phenylanine instead.... they did improve my mood.

Drank 5-6 Protein shakes a day, Vitamin B supplements and some Immodium so they wouldn't go right through me.
I could feel my body and mind recovering 10 times quicker than it had been.

Valerian Root is much better than Benzo's for the anxiety. Using benzo's will just give you a tolerance to them (and the withdrawal to benzo's is very similar to opoids... use them for 2 weeks you just make **** worse.)

WHY THE **** DIDN'T ANY DOCTORS I SAW KNOW THIS STUFF?

In hindsight it's pretty obvious people in withdrawal are nutritionally imbalanced how can you repair your own body when you're so weak you can barely walk? The depression the anxiety the brain is a muscle like any other it makes sense if it's not functioning properly you'll feel like ****.

I live all the way in Aus. and I have to say this helped me soooo much. This guy knows his **** and alot of people suffer needlessly by not knowing about it.

Gonna go find more posts to paste this in :)



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by BEINME, Aug 01, 2010
I AM SO VERY IMPRESSED WITH THESE LAST TWO POSTS.  I AM A NUTRITIONIST AND YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT IN THIS THEORY. THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS........

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by wannagetoffmethodone, Feb 01, 2011
I have been on methodone for 2 years. I constantly feel like s**** Im only 26 yrs old with no other problems. I take multi vitamins but I can't get through the day without a 2 hour nap or longer and then I just lay around and watch tv all day unless I have to do something.  I force myself to clean, take showers daily but before this suff just came naturally.  I ask my dr he said to go to another dr and have bloodwork done.  I have its ok.

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by noopiates4me, May 04, 2011
I am 33 yo female with chronic pain from injuries and was on methadone for a while, a relatively low dose compared to most, but took 80+ mg of hydrocodone, 180+ mg of oxycodone and 60 mg of Adderall per day for about 7 months.  Prior to that I took 120+ mg of hydros only per day for a couple years.  I came off everything cold turkey and although it was pure hell - I lived and am so glad that I made that choice.   My counselor tells me that the amounts of medication I was on was essentially the same as doing heroin!!  How long does it take for your system to get balanced back out after going through something like this.  I have been clean for 7-8 months now but still don't feel like I am 100% (or even close some days).  My sleep is disrupted still, guts still a mess, depression/anxiety still present although nowhere near the levels it was during the initial withdrawals.  Any help/guidance would be greatly appreciated.  :)

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by laurel453, May 05, 2011
Hi :)... you have posted on an old journal and chances are that your message will get overlooked. Please, copy and  paste your message and post on the substance abuse forum so you will get help and support.

It takes time to the body and mind to recover and i can tell you that after six months being clean the anxiety was taking a toll on me too.... have you tried therapy ( cognitive behavioural therapy ) ? It is helping me a lot and i felt mucho more better after a year being clean than during the first year, also exercising is good and leading a healthy diet...

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by GoodLifeQueen, Mar 20, 2014
Fladdict!!!      

I just want to thank you from the deepest place you could imagine! I won't get into my story... but know this... This post has been the most amazing help in every way... I respect you... bless and adore you!!! jmm

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