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subutex, pregnancy

Mar 18, 2008 - 83 comments
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anyone familiar or heard, know, experienced taking subutex while pregnant? i am now on 1mg per day and there is limited studies. please help.

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by jas745, Apr 08, 2008
I am 7 weeks pregnant and I go to cousiling every week for my addiction problem. I first was taking suboxone in september and got pregnant in October of 07 and I knew nothing about the meds. and being prego I had decided to get off the meds and did it cold turkey not knowing that I would have withdraw symtoms. I went off of them right around X-Mas and a few days later had a miscarriage. Pretty much that spun me right back into taking drugs. I realized very quickly that the life I have is way to valuable so I found a different doctor and went back on the suboxone. Well 2 weeks ago I found out that I am prego again and this time because the new doc. exucated me on the meds. switched me to subutex as soon as I told him about the pregnancy. He told me it is much safer to stay on the meds. with taking me down in dosage a little at a time because having any withdraw symtoms can do something to your uterus and cause a miscarriage. I also asked my OB/GYN and they said the same thing. So basically there is no garurntee that you won't experience a mis. or any birth defects but it is better to stay on them till you and all your doctors have agreed that you can come off of them. I hope this helped you.

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by kelbi, Jun 09, 2008
I am 5 months pregnant and have been in treatment with suboxone/subutex for over 2 years.  Once I realized I was pregnant, the doc immediately swithed my med to subutex b/c it is safer, obviously.  He has had 3 women prior to me that have successfully carried to term and delivered with absolutely no problem at all.  I have been doing well and the baby is just fine.  I am due in October and hope to have a healthy baby.  There is always a risk with any medication, however, but the pros outweigh the cons in this situation.  I am an opioid addict and do not want to deliver an addicted daughter.  So, to me, the subutex option is the only option.  That, in addition to my weekly NA meetings.  You really must do both to defeat this addiction.

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by KYE08, Sep 08, 2008
i am 7 months pregnant and when i found out i was on suboxone and the Dr put me on subutex.  I am having a healthy baby girl Kyelyne Kristine.  Everything has been great and no problems have occured Just follow all directions and rules and do what the doctor tells you to do.  It is scary to think about and i still have my days where i wonder if everything will be ok just pray and god will only give you what you can handle.  Stay strong everything will work out just fine. And I am taking 16mg a day. The information is hard to find i look everyday to hope to find something new. There are some things like breastfeeding some artilces say you can and some say you cant just ask your dr he should be able to have all the answers that your looking for GOOD LUCK youll be just fine. In my area there are alot of girls that are giving birth while on the program and they have had no problems

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by LBugg, Sep 10, 2008
Thank you for posting....  sometimes its good to hear that im not the only one going through this.  I am having a little girl too.. im due in one week, Sept 17th.  Im terrified of labor but excited to meet her!!  I will keep you posted about labor and how things turn out... Good Luck to you too

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by AJML, Sep 19, 2008
Hi All,

I am reading your posts and I am so very happy that subutex worked for you.  I found out that I was pregnant about a month ago, and I was switched from suboxone to subutex.  I miscarried one week later.  I know that they say it's safe, and maybe it is, however I blame it for my miscarriage completely, and I quit it that day.  I don't need a single pill of any kind in my life ever again.  I never want to see another painkiller or suboxone or subutex again.  That alone gave me the willpower to stop it all, and I flushed every single subutex and suffered no withdrawl symptoms.  I truly am so happy for all of you having success with this drug and pregnancy and I wish you the all the best in the rest of  your pregnancies. :)

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by LIA946, Oct 31, 2008
AJML,    

I am so happy that you finally kicked the drugs it is sad what you had to go through to get there.  but my question is : you said you suffered absolutely no withdrawal symptoms what milligrm of subutex did you take?  I too am pregnant and i am currently on 2mgs of subutex a day.  I'm trying to find out if it is safe to quit taking it , i dont want to have a miscarriage because of it and im scared to death i want this child so bad.

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by ashlasl, Dec 01, 2008
i also am on subutex just switched from suboxone when found out i was pregnant, but i was having problems, first i didnt know if i wanted the baby, and i took a benzo when i found out, now i have decided to keep baby  but i have to have a urine test and i know the valium i took will show up,   should i just be honest with doctor,  can he just kick me of for one hot urine i am so scared, i dont want to get kicked of go into withdrawal and loose my baby

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by StephieL412, Feb 16, 2009
Hello All. I too was taking suboxone when I found out i was pregnant. As soon as i went to my addiction doctor he switched me to subutex. I took it the whole time I was pregnant. It was hard to find information about what to expect when the baby was born. My OB doctor and my addiction doctor both aggreed that it would be best for the baby if I stayed on the program. I gave birth a baby boy that weighed almost 9 pounds. He was 21 inches long. All the doctors and nurses really had no idea what to expect. He was fine, he never once had a fever and never had any vomitting or really any other signs of withdrawl. Besides from a little bit of discrimination and being pre-judged by the nurse's because of the situation everything with my labor and birth went fine. One of my worries was also pain managment during labor. I had a natural vaginal birth. The only thing I had was the epidural. I asked doctor the leave out anything with opiate's in out. So i still had numbing from the waste down I Just didnt have anything to make me high. My child is healthy and happy. He also has a Mommy that is clean thanks to my suboxone program. Using and the thought that I might relapse does still scare me but since i am on my program i know that I have a great defense against it. With all the worries that come with taking care of a newborn and the stress of starting a new family it's the last thing I need to be worrying about.

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by dee341, Feb 22, 2009
Hello everyone, I believe doctors have different views on going off subutex and staying on it. What I can tell you is there is nothing better than going off of subutex for good! You have a child inside of you. I know how hard it is because I am going through it ! My doctor is a well known OBGYN doctor that is very educated with subutex. He did his research and told me I can not miscarriage from quiting the subutex. I am now 6 months pregnant and have stopped the subutex for good! I wanted to breast feed and my doctor told me it was not possible. I am going to be  honest with you.... I cut myself down to 2 mg every other day for about 2 months. It was hard at first but you get through it. TRUST ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It has been 5 days and I feel alot better. Besides restless sleep and occasional bowel movements....it gets better. Just think about your baby like I did. Everytime you want to give in and take one think about the baby .... It's better to go off of it now.... than later. I was very discouraged reading some of the websites that suggested the withdrawl process can take 10 or more days. It wasn't till  I asked a friend in a similar situation just how long it really takes. The truth is... it only lasts around 4 to 5 days at the most. Hang in there!!!

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by linds499, Feb 26, 2009
Hi everyone, I am 14 weeks pregnant and was on suboxone. My Dr. switched me to subutex and told me that it was safer, although he said there hasn't been alot of information released about side effects.  I worry every single day about what might happen to my child but when I try not to take it, I become so withdrawn and upset, to the point of physical pain, I worry that I will miscarry.   I take great comfort in hearing some of you say that you have delivered completely healthy children. So far, everything is great for me, sonogram revealed that the baby is growing two weeks ahead of schedule. If possible, I would like to ween myself off it so I can stop worrying and also breast feed. I was wondering if anyone has any tips for me. For instance, did you take some time off from work to stay home and be in a stress free environment while you got off the medicine?  How much did you take when you were weening yourself off?  Is it as bad as detoxing from opiates themselves? After a few days did you feel totally ok or are you just sick all the time? Obviously I have a million and one questions. Any advice at all that you have to get through it, or from some of you, if you advise I don't get off it at all, I would like to hear that too. I feel very alone and confused right now! Just knowing other women have gone through this same thing makes me feel better.

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by want2Bagoodmom, Mar 14, 2009
hi I am pregnant to and though it is better not to take anything while pregnant if thats not possiable then go with what your doctor tells you. I had a friend who tried to stop cold turkey from oxy's and her baby was born two months early and had a bowl movement inside of her, had she been on a program this probably wouldn't have happened. Withdrawls cause stress on your body and we all know thats the worse thing you can have going on while your pregnant. I had one baby born while I was taking methadone and he suffered no withdrawls and now I'm pregnant and on subutex and it has taken a lot of stress off of me knowing I'm under a doctors supervision and knowing that I won't have to go through withdrawls while I'm pregnant because if I'm going through them the baby is too. I am confident that my baby will be born just fine to a drug free mom and now I will have a lot more time to spend at home instead of chasing drugs.I think anything to keep drug addicts that are pregnant away from street drugs and under doctors supervision is great. Just do what the doctor tells you and you will be fine.Isin't that why they went to school all those years.

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by nicole179, Mar 17, 2009
i was told that if i have my baby and continue on with my subutex through out the pregnancy and delivery that the baby would have to go to neonatal for atleast 24 hours after birth. Has anyone had to do this after delivering on subutex? If so has anyone had a bad or scary experience while going through this.  I honestly am still unsure about my pregnancy and whether i want to have a baby.  I have been clean for 3 years and very active in NA in my area, however i just have never wanted to have children.
My boyfriend of 5 years is so happy but i am not, and i do not know what to do!!

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by jackiewag9482, Mar 26, 2009
has anyone here had a baby while on subutex?I am currently almost 7 months pregnant and switched from suboxone to subutex i take 2mg a day if that.i als o have been on .25 xanax for 6 years and am still taking that to.Going to dr thids week finally that medacaid went through.Has anyone had there baby here?did it go through any withdraw symptoms?

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by Spyder21266, Mar 26, 2009
I am 37 weeks and 3 days pregnant. I am one of the few who take Subutex for pain management (16mgs p/day). I broke my back 6yrs ago. I haven't been pain free since. Going off is NOT an option. I had a baby girl 28 months ago while taking Methadone for pain management. The Methadone was better than the huge amounts of Fentanyl my doctors were giving me prior. Plus, my new husband really wanted children of his own. Anyway, his first (my third) was in the NICU with NAS for 5 weeks. It was horrible! She didn't come home until 2 days AFTER Christmas. Some how we made it through and she is a perfectly normal and an extremely smart child. You would never know. We didn't want her to be alone (my others are 11 & 14 yrs old), however we just couldn't do that long hospital stay again. My pain mgmt doc told me what I would have to do to switch to Suboxone. I was taking 160mgs a day of Methadone. From Feb to Jun I went down to 30mgs. Then did my 48hrs of abstinence then started Suboxone. It was tough, but I was determined. One month later I became pregnant. My doc immediately switched me to Subutex. My doc is very savy with this drug. He participates with the research study currently going on at John Hopkins. In fact I am a part of that study. He has had many women, mostly recovering drug addicts who have delivered perfectly fine babies on Subutex. The wonderful thing about Subutex is the baby's withdrawal if any is much easier than with Methadone. Right now Methadone is still the drug of choice for pregnant women. However, as more and more women blaze this trail of uncertainty. We will help future mommies and babies. I have been to the perinatologist frequently. He has been monitoring my bundle of joy. Just 2 days ago he said she is in the 68 percentile and is perfectly normal. She weighs a whopping 7lbs 6oz already. I am hopeful for a minimal hospital stay. The average according to Doc is about a week. Although he did hear of a 3 week stay recently. However, he has never heard of that length of time before. I have decided to deliver at a hospital that has had some experience with other women and babies on Subutex. They are allowing the mommies to breastfeed which is really important to me. I believe this drug to be safe for pregnancy and for breastfeeding. The research I have done and the chats with my doc have set my mind at ease. For those of you who face the alternative of using street drugs to quench your cravings, I believe you would be much better off providing a safe and stable environment for your baby to grow. If you really think you can go without anything then you should ONLY decrease under the supervision of your doctor and only during the second trimester. Any other time is a risk to your baby. Good luck to all of you. We all only want what is best for our babies. Find your peace with whatever decision you make.

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by bridnwsm, Apr 07, 2009
Hi, I am new to the board and just recently found out that I am pregnant. My 1st doctor's appt. is tomorrow, I'm assuming I am just right at 6 weeks preggo. I switched from methadone to suboxone in July 2008, both my husband and I due to problems with the clinic and self choice. It was a very hard transition but we made it through the process. I had a healthy baby boy in May 2002 while taking Methadone(only 10-20mg per day) with no NAS at all. My Dr. has now switched me to subutex instead of suboxone and I do not feel well at all. I'm not sure if its that I am just "used' to the suboxone or there is a difference. I know they say there is no difference at all, just the naltroxone. I have also been prescribed 2 -1mg Xanax a day for the last 6 years and cannot seem to curb the need for the Xanax due to severe anxiety. I don't find myself worrying so much about the Subutex but I do worry about the Xanax. I am not planning on telling my OBGYN because my Subutex Dr. does not know that I am taking the Xanax and would most def. quit prescribing me if he knew. I'm sure during the pregnancy they will have to communicate. I know this sounds selfish or whatever but I am scared. I also got pregnant this same time last year & miscarried at 3 months. I was in the same situation as now except I was taking methadone instead of subutex. I did try to wean myself from the Xanax during that pregnancy, that's why i think i miscarried. i wished that I could just never take another but i know this is not possible. Has anyone had the same experience or is going through the same situation? I would appreciate any opinions.  

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by ashla, Apr 07, 2009
oh my god , i am in the exact same boat you are, i am on subutex, and i take xanax as well, but my subutex doctor does  not know, i have been trying so hard to quit the xanax , i have gone up and down with it, i have had a few days here and there with out it, to going absolutely nuts without it that i start doing it again, i am six mths pregnant, my sub doc does not know about the xanax , i am afraid to tell them, because i am not allowed on xanax while on subutex, i have been at one or two mgs a day since the beginning of my pregnancy, i have read alot about this, and even though obgyns dont want to prescribe it, i have found alot of good reports saying that it isnt as bad as everyone originally thought, the most problem is if i am not of it by the time i give birth the baby will have withdrawal, i am doing everything i can to try to wean of it, i may just go into the hospital and do it there, i am so messed up with this xanax , i dont take it to get high, but to be normal and no fear and anxiety and the pregnancy makes it worst, you can email me we can talk about this and maybe help each other with some answers , i cant believe i found your post today, i have been going through so much because of this it is insane, if i tell my obgyn then they will tell sub doctor, if i tell sub doctor he may take me of or put me in rehab which i cannot afford to do, i havent been on as long as you have but i know what your going through please email me  it is ***@****    i am sorry your in this situation but i cant believe searching all this time pregnant i found someone who is like me,   ashla

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by lexi500, Apr 08, 2009
does anyone know if in fact the baby does withdrawl which would be the quickest,healthiest,and least amount of discomfort for the baby,subutex or methadone??????

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by chez22, Apr 08, 2009
hi, im soo glad ive found this website. I am a recovering heroin addict, taking subutex and im now 4 months pregnant. i have been so worried about the effects it is having on my baby. i was taking 16mg when i found out and told my drugs worker i wanted to cut my dose in half, which i thought i'd be able to do as i'd been cutting down at home anyway, so she got the dr to prescribe me 8mg, i then got transferred to another specialist clinic that dealt with pregnant addicts and they said it was dangerous for me to have done such a drastic drop in such a short time. i had been havin a few sleepless nights and was feelin unwell but put it down to the pregnancy, the new dr told me that im suffering withdrawrals and it can be dangerous so iv been titrating again this week and up to 10mg.Apparantly pregnancy can make us need more. My new drugs worker told me shes had 2 pregnant subutex clients that both give birth to healthy babies that suffered no withdrawal symptoms and even tho they dont know as much as they do about meth in pregnancy they do know its best to stay on subbies instead of changing to meth and that if you are going to reduce to do it in the 2nd trimester and very gradually. Ive also been told by my midwife and dr that you and your baby are kept under suveillance for 5days-as if the baby is going to get withdrawals, it will be in the first 72 hrs. ive bin taking my vitaminsn folic acid and ive stopped smoking so fingers crossed my baby will be okay, we should all be proud of ourselves for kicking our drugs habits, every1 makes mistakes for whatever reason, those who judge are just ignorant and shallow minded, good luck everybody xxxxx

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by chez22, Apr 08, 2009
also ive had a scan and my baby was a healthy size and dancing aboutin my belly!!!xxx

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by ashla, Apr 08, 2009
just some info that i have gotten from searching so much on internet and asking doctors,  well one thing is they are finding that most babies have less withdrawal from subutex than methadone,   i had my son on methadone and he was only in the hospital for three extra days , he was fine and still is great gonna be nine soon,  i am six and a half mths pregnant and the baby is very active, and also a good size, i had two scans and he has no malformations or problems so far they can see like heart brain etc, so the most you have to worry about i think is the stress about this, i know you hear horror stories but sometimes things happen and it happens to all babies not just babies on meds, the one thing i am worried about though is pain mgt for me when i give birth, and also i told the doctor that to make sure they dont give narcon to the baby when born, this is very bad, so mention this to the doctor and make sure you have a doctor who knows about methadone and subutex withdrawal for babies,  also to find a pediatrician before the baby is born, one who is understanding and not judgemental to you is very key, that helped alot with my son on methadone, i will try to find the links about them finding the baby goes through less withdrawal on subutex than methadone, there are alot of doctors out there pushing for this to be the first line in treatment before methadone, also the amount of subutex has nothing to do with how the baby will be, the most important thing is if you are sick the baby is gonna be also, so if you need to increase in pregnancy it is better to do, they can help your baby withdraw better while out of you,  like i posted on my other post was my fear of the xanax and i made an appointment to talk with my nurse practioner about this friday, i am gonna be honest with her, i want to slowly wean of this before he is born, but i do know that the biggest problem with the benzos are cleft lips etc, and my son shows no sign of that on the ultrasounds i had, and floppy baby syndrome when you are on high doses when giving birth, so i plan on weaning down slowly as not to cause any problems for me or him, i dont really care what people think of me being on meds, it isnt there business so if you dont have a dr who is understanding find another one,  good luck all  ashla

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by LBugg, Apr 14, 2009
I was on SUBUTEX before and throughout my pregnancy. (If you are on Suboxone please switch to Subutex, bc the Naloxene in suboxone is not good for the fetus)  I was on 2mgs per day before I got pregnant and around 6mos I had to up my dosage to 3-4mgs per day, I guess from the extra blood supply in my system... My daughter was born 7 months ago in perfect health.. she was 7lbs 1oz and 20 inches long....  She had absolutely no NAS AT ALL! Her apgar scores were 9, 10.  She came out wailing her little lungs out and was very alert.   I had an epidural once i became 4cms dilated and it only worked on one side of my body...  the anest. came back and gave me more and then a little more ( i guess bc of my high tolerance for pain meds)  and then i was good to go....   6 hours later she was born and i didnt feel a thing.....the epi is a wonderful thing!  After the baby is born they are totally lethargic, they dont really want to eat.. dont let the Dr's/Nurses make you feel as if thats from the epi or meds that you were on.. its not...the poor things just went from their cozy womb to this crazy world, getting pushed out and they are exhausted!  It usually takes them 2-3 days before they start to become more alert and what not.. thats why usually they are so good in the hospital and when you take them home they cry for hours lol      But i have to say if you are on Subutex and on less than 6mgs per day I would bet your baby will not have any withdrawals....  more mgs than that I am not too sure about.. I've read some posts on NAABT.com website that some women have been on 16 - 24 mgs and their babies were fine......i do know from what i've read it is much better than methodone.....  My little girl is the most alert, energetic little person.  Also do not try to quit if you find out you are pregnant... for some reason opiate withdrawal has big effects on the uterus so it can cause a miscarriage.....  Also Xanax is not something you should be taking while pregnant.... You may be better off with a low dose antidepressant that could curb your anxiety... i've heard xanax is very bad for a fetus.   Check out the website  www.naabt.org     read some posts... search words...  pregnancy, pregnant, NAS, breastfeeding  etc... i think most of you will find this site very helpful. Good luck :)

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by bridnwsm, Apr 14, 2009
Ashla, how far along are you in your pregnancy? When are you due? Sorry it has been a week or so...i had actually forgotten where I had posted and just found it on my bookmark. Does anyone else feel bad from the subutex to suboxone? I feel horrible! I do know that Xanax is a category D drug in pregnancy but they really have no studies on what it does to the fetus just as subutex/suboxone doesn't either. I have read successful stories of women who take Xanax throughout their pregnancy too. I really do believe that the cause of my miscarriage last year was....weaning from Xanax. So i will not wean myself during this pregnancy.  Yes...i am scared because I have never been in this situation before but I also feel pretty confident in my current situation. Ashla, the website blocked out your e-mail address, do you have a myspace or a facebook?

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by ckanehelp, Apr 19, 2009
I need help. I am currently in my 2nd trimester and taking suboxone. My dr. transferred me to a high-risk Dr. who told me that I should get off the suboxone now. But after reading all of these articles I am scared to death of having a miscarriage? I think I am going to follow the dr.'s advice, but I am still scared. PLEASE HELP!

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by red122109, Apr 25, 2009
I am so thrilled I found this site!  I didn't realize there were so many people in my shoes!  I know no one who is in a similar situation.  I just found out I am six weeks preggers with my third.  I have two boys 10 and 12, so we are kind of starting over.  My husband and I are very happy, but I am very scared about the Subutex.  I had severe back injuries and became addicted to my pain meds.  Luckily, I found the Suboxone program before I ended up on the streets trying to buy meds or worse.  I went through my own hell, but I am grateful I never lost my family.  Things have been going so good, I have begun to wean down, but my doc takes it slower because of the pain.  I take the meds at this point for pain mgmt.  Then I found out about the pregnancy.  I havn't told my OB yet.  I had my first visit a few days ago, and I was scared to tell him.  I know I have to but I don't even know how to explain.  Of coarse I am also worried about the judgment and whispers etc.  Mostly I am worried about delivering a drug-addicted baby.  HELP!

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by bridnwsm, Apr 26, 2009
The best thing to do is...be honest with your Dr. I know that I am not or haven't told mine yet about the xanax but i plan too. There are many Dr.'s out there that specialize or know alot about this medicine that are very understanding and do not judge you. With my first(he's 7) i was on methadone and was in the same situation as yourself and felt i would be judged but they totally never said a bad word and never looked at me any different than a normal pregnancy. I worried myself to death the entire pregnancy and my baby came out fine, no NAS at all. And he's as smart as any child for his age. everything will be fine for you & your baby! keep us updated. We are all here because we have something in common so we're here to listen & to help as much as we can.

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by bridnwsm, Apr 29, 2009
Ashla, i have not seen a post or heard from you in a while. How is everything going with you and your baby?

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by angie2525, May 14, 2009
i just found out i am pregnant i was on methadone for 3 years about 2 weeks ago i was switched to subutex to get the methadone out of my system then was going to take uboxen but found out im pregnant, my doctor wants me back on methadone but it is  not possible for me to get there everyday plus i dont want to be on it i hate it so she will not keep me on subutex either, are there any other options or any doctors that will perscribe me the subutex while pregnent so i do not have to detox myself? please help scared to death!! i live in pa so i would need a doctor here. thanks!

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by jetucker41, May 15, 2009
It is amazing to see there are so many people out there like me! I am almost 17 weeks pregnant with my second, was on Suboxone and switched to subutex at about 10 weeks. I became addicted to pain meds after I had my son who I had a very painful C section with. I've been on about 1-2 mgs per day, but just ran out last night. I can already feel the withdrawat (nothing near as bad as oxy withdrawal) but I am nervous about miscarriage from stopping. My OB doesn't know that I am on it, I feel scared to tell them about my addiction, and didn't think it was as big of a deal until now. I don't know if I want to stop or not, I wish I had never become an addict, I feel bad that I even have to make this decision. =( I have no problems being sober anymore, I mainly take the subs for sleep since I can't sleep a wink without them. The past 24 hours has been terrible. It's good to see that there is a lot of support here, Good luck to all of you pregnant womn out there going through this!

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by ashla, May 16, 2009
i havent posted for a while but will update about how i am doing, i am not of any benzo's for a mth, i cant believe it i am now seven and a half mths pregnant, i am on 20 mgs of subutex a day i hate that i am on so much but i was on a huge dose of methadone when pregnant with my son and he had very little withdrawals,  i still have bad anxiety now i am trying really hard to not smoke at all but it is really hard, sometimes when my nerves get really bad i will take two benadryl i know it isnt great but it is catagory b so at least i am not taking xanax anymore,  i am so scared and going through so much in this pregnancy,  i had to go to the hospital for stress test and none of the nurses even heard about subutex this is crazy i mean yes i live in a small town but the hospital is pretty big and they know about methadone but not subutex,  you would think they would know what buperenorphine was ,  i dont know how to get my email out i will post it  in code  ok lets try it     a    s     h   l   a    s    l    @   v   e   r   i    z    o    n    .   n    e     t     if that works just put it all together i could use all the friends i could get  

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by froggies54, May 20, 2009
I am 37 weeks pregant. i missed my dr. appt. because i have had the flu(not H1n1). So I stopped taking suboxone.Does anyone know if it will hurt the baby. I am so scared

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by bridnwsm, May 20, 2009
How did you quit the xanax Ashla? I would love to be able to do this myself but i just don't feel as if i have the strength and am scared of miscarriage from previous pregnancy. Please e-mail me b r i d n w s m @ g m a i l . c o m

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by pregant15wks, Jun 04, 2009
Hi I am 15 weeks pregant and taking suboxone. I only take one 8mg tablet a day. What can this do to my unborn child? Could it have done any damage to the baby right now?

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by JLJChrister, Aug 11, 2009
Hey ladies! I am new to this sight, so I will give you a short run down. I am 27 years old with two children. A boy age 7 and a girl age 4. I became addicted to opiates (Vicodin, Tylenol w/ codiene, etc.) about 5 years ago. I had actually fractured my lower back when I was 12 and was on Percocet and Norgesic Forte for 8-9 months. Then in my late teen years I started suffering from recurrent severe migraines. I was getting shots of Demerol or Nubain about once every 1-2 months. I also suffered from colon cancer at age 19 and had surgery and of course pain meds for that too. While I was pregnant with my daughter, I took vicodin daily until I was about 5 months along. My doc knew I had an issue, but I don't think she realized how bad it was. I stopped, with very little withdrawl, and delivered a 7 lb 5 oz baby girl at 38 weeks. She haad no problems what so ever. Me on the other hand, felt awful. I wasn't using, but I felt so 'blah'. A substance abuse counseler told me about Suboxone. It was a life saver!!! I had been on it, 24mg/6mg for 3 years when I found out I was pregnant. My doc (the one who prescribes the Suboxone, not the OB) switched me to Subutex right away. I am about 10 weeks. I had my first appointment with the OB last week, and told him about it. He didn't even know what Subutex was! He contacted my PCP and they agreed that it would be best for me to wean slowly. I am now on 16 mg and doing fine. I will wean down 1/2 tab every 5 days, and then stay on 1/2 tab for 10 days, then stop. They told me that if at anytime I feel as if I need to stay on a certain dose, that is fine. My OB called me today and is sending me to a Maternal-Fetal Health Specialist (i.e. High Risk OB). I am scared, but I know it is for the best. My husband isn't thrilled, but is supportive. I think I will be fine weaning slowly. My last day will be Sept 1st. I am excited to be off it, but scared at the same time! I have been clean for a little over 4 years now and am so greatful for that time. I don't want to do anything to jeoporize it. I also had my gall bladder removed last August. They gave me Morphine right after surgery (I went off Suboxone for 4 days prior) and then took Toradol (a non-narcotic anti-inflammatory) for pain control when I went home. I was still in a lot of pain, but I made it!!!!  Going through this has made me a stonger woman!!!

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by Sbell575, Aug 13, 2009
hello. im 11 weeks pregnant (1st pregnancy) and have gone down to about 1mg subutex per day.  (.5mg twice a day)  i don't feel like i can go much lower, but i do want to come off before baby is born...is there any point in the pregnancy where it is safer for the baby to stop the meds... this is the scariest thing in the world..... how long should i stay at 1mg per day... should i go down to .5mg once a day and then every other day... NEITHER OF MY DOCTORS ARE TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY AND NEITHER WILL TELL ME WHAT TO DO.... MY ADDICTION DOCTOR SAYS HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL ME AND MY OBGYN SAYS SHE HAS NO CLUE WHAT SUBUTEX IS.... NO ONE IS HELPING ME!!!  :(

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by bridget432, Aug 16, 2009
im 21 years old and pregnant im due on the 29th of august 09 i didnt plan the pregnancy i was just foolish enough to think that  i wouldnt get pregnant due to my drug abuse  and the fact that my period stopped completly but within 1year of being stable on  suboxone 16mg i put on weight got heralthier and my mentrual cycle went back to normal this should have made me use contraception but id convinced myself i couldnt get pregnant as id been with my partner for 3years and never had before. when i found out i couldnt beleive i took 4 pregnancy tests before it sunk in.Now i wouldnt change it for the world the first time i seen my son on the scan i felt instant love for him and just wanted to protect him.I went to see a doctor and he swiched me to subutex and id already reduced from 16mg to 8mg by the time i went to the doctor my plan was to come off them completley but the doctor told me it wasnt safe as it can cause misscarrage so i decided there and then i wouldnt risk my babys health and since then everythings gone fine ive put on 3stone and ive been to my last growth scan as i had to go to them throughout the pregancy to make sure he was developing ok but its been textbook ive had no problems and ill just be releived to see his face in two weeks time.I'll feel guilty if he get withdrawels but it could be worse and ill make it up to him by being a good mum and never touching the devils drug heroin which took away my teenage years ever again.I just want to set a good example to him and be a good parent like mine should have been.good luck to all of you with your recoveries and being mums to these miracle babies.love bridget

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by Sbell575, Aug 20, 2009
i have great news!  i went to the perinatal center yesterday for an u/s and to meet with high risk doctor.  he said after weening down your dose of subutex - it is okay to stop.  he said the baby won't experience the withdrawals the way the mother does.  he gave me direct permission to stop the subutex!!
i feel so much better... i don't care if i suffer, as long as the baby is not suffering along with me (for my mistakes)...



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by bridnwsm, Aug 28, 2009
Hi All! It has been a long time since I have been on the site. I am now 27 weeks pregnant and taking 12mg of subutex a day along with my 1mg xanax per day. I would love to hear of someone that has had a baby on subutex and xanax or either it would make me feel so much better. I am so scared of what is to come. I am actually pretty small to be almost 7 months preggo, the Dr. is going to measure me when i go back.  I also smoke and haven't been able to quit that either. My other son was born on methadone and had no withdrawals so i'm just praying for the best. I just hope my outcome with this pregnancy is good and the baby is healthy. It literally scares the life out of me to not know the unknown. I know of many women in the area that has had healthy babies on subutex but they did suffer from withdrawals.

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by singerbabek, Oct 25, 2009
I am six weeks today. Since I found out a week ago I have spent every night (all night) online looking for info. I have my first appt. on Nov. 10th and I am terrified to tell the OBGYN. Also, the woman that scheduled me on the phone said something about only seeing a nurse at my first visit that I wont see the Dr. until the next visit. so now it is even harder for me to say something. I dont want to call the receptionist and tell her about my problem so that they can get the dr. for me. I  also do not wan to have to tell the nurse. Its hard enough for me to tell the Dr. but at least with him I feel docs are less judgemental than nurses and others in the office. anyway, aside from that fear. I am on suboxone but  not prescribed. I have been on it for 3 years and I buy it from friends. For the past yr I have only been taking 2 miligrams a day. Since i found out about the baby I cut down to 1 mg. a day for the past week. I feel fine and have not experienced any withdrawel symptoms from weaning. I feel like I can just stop on my own but I am terrified to lose my baby. I already am at high risk of that because I have endometriosis. If you aren't familiar with that it is a growth that is grown all over my uterus, ovaries and fallopian tubes. It is hard to even get prego in the first place with endo. because my tubes are so tight that its hard for sperm to fit through to fertilize the egg. Now that it has, my next risk is that the egg may have not made it through the tube to my uterus and can be stuck in my tube. We all know how that can end!! So of course I have this extra risk and do not want to be doing anything else to cause miscarriage. I just want to be off the suboxone and really feel I can do it on my own but after seeing all the stories, now i see i cant. I have read a few of you said it isnt safe in the 1st or 3rd trimester. What about the 2nd?? I dont want to be switched to subutex for a few months and then be in my 2nd tri and would have been able to just stop the suboxone.  I dont want them to put me on a high dose of subutex and then it be harder for me to stop that where now I am at such a small dose of suboxone and have more of a chance of stopping. Im so confused and afraid. I have been trying for this baby for 2 yrs. It is a miracle that I got pregnant and now it can all be taken away from me so easily. Someone please help. I am hysterically crying right now and have been every night all night.

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by Donkashane69, Oct 28, 2009
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The best advice that I have for you is to tell your doctor everything you just posted on here. They are the only ones who are qualified enough to know what is going to be safest for your own situation. I'm guessing they will advise you to switch to subutex on the same dosage as you are taking on suboxone. At least until you are out of your first trimester. You are on such a low dosage, that you shouldn't be so hard on yourself. But definitely get switched to subutex, which is what pregnant women are safer taking. Try not to stress so much, it will cause stress on your baby and that is also not safe. Good luck with everything.

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by signmeup, Nov 04, 2009
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by signmeup, Nov 04, 2009
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OK, it worked.  Anyway, I am in a very similiar situation.  Donka is right, just try to relax (I know it's hard) because stress is not good for the pregnancy.  You are on such a small dose.  My situation is like yours however I am on 8mgs per day but don't have endo.  From all the stuff I've read the SAFEST thing to do is to remain on your subutex just like you've been doing.  If you do not experience any withdrawal on 1 mg a day, then there should be no harm of miscarriage due to the recent decrease.  I will pray for you that your fertilized egg has made it safely to your uterus.  Regarding the SUB issue: only a doctor licensed to prescribe that medication SPECIFICALLY can prescribe it to you, so you will have to look in the phone book or on the internet for a doctor in your area and see that doctor to get prescribed it anyway.  From my experience they are always very understanding and should be able to get you in right away and get you a script.  This is the nature of what they do.  You wouldn't have to wait for an appointment.  My point being, by the time you see your OB doc, you should be legally prescribed this medication.  Check that stress off your list of having to tell the nurse your situation, etc.  You should even be able to get in before you see HER.  I am also six weeks pregnant and found out 8 days ago and did not have ANY medical insurance, had to deal with getting me some, ran out of medication at the same time, had to see the doc today and argue with my husband about how much the appointment was gonna cost.  It seems that everything gets compounded and one stressful issue seems to jump on the last one's back, all you want to do is cry.  I have been doing the same thing!  I'm just trying to let you know that you are not alone.  Many women are going through similar situations at a time when we should be happy!  Maybe it's the fresh pregnancy that is making it so hard for us to process and deal with all the new issues that are coming up!  I know it is also a genuine ache that we don't want to have to take ANYTHING that may harm our babies (specifically, having the baby go through WD).  When I found out a week ago that I was pregnant, I immediately stopped doing everything, which was drinking and taking suboxone.  However, 4 days later I began to feel the creepie crawlies that I just can't tolerate and had to take a sub.  Physically I felt better, but SINCE I have also been so stressed from the realization that quitting during pregnancy may not be an option, at least for me.  It IS recommended that if you want to stop taking the subs, you would do so in the 2nd trimester.  You being on only 1 mg a day (so low!) MAY be able to do this.  However I would recommend since you have been trying so long and REALLY want this baby that if you start to feel clear withdrawal symptoms that you immediately go ahead and take your dose, since miscarriage COULD BE a possible result.  Another thing: when pregnant, you DEFINITELY want to take SUBUTEX as it doesn't have naloxone in it, another ingredient to add to the possibility of the baby going through WD.  As far as the baby going through withdrawal, I have read everything from women claiming that their babies didn't experience ANY withdrawal to reading information that a newborn may be in the hospital for a week after birth.  HOWEVER, and this is the important part that is the at the crux of all this compounded stress, I know that the chance of a newborn going through withdrawal has to do with how hard of an opiate one is using and how much.  1mg of Subutex being at the lowest end of the spectrum.  I hope this helped.  God bless you and your pregnancy.  

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by tkelly1228, Nov 05, 2009
Wow! Im so excited i found this site!! Ive been on subutex for the last year and a half, and while i was on it, in April, found out I was pregnant. My doctor advisd me its safer to stay on the med instead of tapering, because withdrawal could cause miscarraige. Im currently in a residential program for mothers and am due Dec 30.  Ive had to increase my subutex dose from 4mg to 6mg then finally to 8mg, and my son is growing like a weed! He's very active and has been declared perfectly healthy, after many sonograms and an amnio. I definately think stayin on this med was the  best thing for me and my son. My main worry is what happens when i go through childbirth? I know i want an epidural, but was wondering what other pain medications could b used. I had a c-section with my daughter because she was breech, and am hoping for a vbac this time, but if i do have to have a c-section im definately going to want serious pain meds afterwards! I had surgery before, while on subutex, and none of the pain meds they gave me worked! (fentanyl, percocet, etc). Im worried about being in pain and was wondering if anyone else has any experience with this.  Thanks!!  Tammy

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by KristenSox23, Nov 27, 2009
I went though detox in November '08 and was on suboxone when I found out I was pregnant in February '09. I switched to subutex through my suboxone provider but there was very little they could tell me about subutex/suboxone during pregnancy. They told me that not much was known/not many studies had been done. I was so nervous not knowing how my baby would be effected and not wanting to do anything that would hurt him in any way. I searched and searched online trying to find out anything I could and I came upon this page. It helped to hear from other people who had been through what I was going through and had healthy babies, so I wanted to post my story maybe be able to help someone else.

I had a normal pregnancy, no problems. I took between 8 and 16mg/day of subutex my whole pregnancy. Both my subutex dr and my ob knew about my situation. Even though they didn't know exactly what to expect with the subutex I was told NOT to stop taking it because the risks to the baby were so high with stopping. During my pregnancy I was considered high risk because of the subutex. I had to go to some extra appts, visit the NICU in case my son had to go there and things like that. I was so nervous not knowing what to expect with the labor and as far as once my son was born.

Jackson was due 9/30, ended up being born 10/13. I got admitted 10/11 to be induced since he was so late. I had cervadil all day the 11th, had pitocin from 9am to 6:30pm the 12th with not much advancement (was about 1 cm dialated, still not really effaced or anything). I got some sleep that night and they restarted the pit around 6am the 13th. I started having bad contractions about 9am and got the epidural maybe an hour later. My epidural only worked on one side and they "topped it off" 3 times, all in all I felt allllll the contractions for about 6 hours. They eventually redid my epidural around 4:30 and that time it worked. I was dialated to 5 at that point. The next 4 hours flew by pain free and the dr checked me at 9:30, told me it was time to push. I had a really easy time with that and pushed him out in about 20 minutes. Jackson Connor was born at 9:58pm 7lbs 9oz and 19". His apgars were 8 and 9. As soon as he was born they put him on my chest. He was extremely alert and only let out 2 quick wails. He latched to the breast within 5 minutes of being born. (I was told it IS safe to breast feed while on subutex. It took me forever to find out but when I met with the NICU director he told me it's fine, that so little passes into breast milk that it doesn't effect the baby and the baby will not have withdrawls when you stop breast feeding.)

They had told me in advance that they were going to have to keep my baby for 5 days to watch for symptoms of NAS. They do this by checking what they call "Finnigans Scores" every 4 hours. If the infant gets a score over 12 once or over 6 twice in a row they start treatment for NAS which is morphine and phenobarbital. They gradually increase the morphine while checking the Finnigans every 4 hours until the baby stops exhitibing symptoms/stops having high scores. Once they get the baby stabilized they keep them at that dose for 1-2 days and then start weening them off the morphine by .02 mg based on their finnigan scores. The baby can go home on the phenobarbital but needs to be off the morphine.

Jackson ended up getting started on meds at 7am on the 18th. It was really upsetting because he was doing so well, we thought we were going to be able to take him home that day. He never went to the NICU but spent the whole time in the regular newborn nursery. In all he was in the hospital 19 days, we brought him home 11/1. It was difficult having to wait that long to bring him home, but we were thankful he was born healthy. Thankful that the drs were able to make him comfortable and that he didn't have to suffer or feel the withdrawal symptoms. Even when he was in the hospital and they were weaning his medication he was such a good baby, never cranky or fussy. You would never know that he had NAS. Also, everyone at the hospital was very understanding, very accomadating. They got us a room at the Ronald McDonald house right across the st from the hospital and we went over to the nursery every 3-4 hours for feedings. No one was rude or judgemental of me. When I first found out that he was getting started on meds and would be in the hospital for a while I got really upset, was blaming myself and feeling guilty. One of the nurses even made me feel better saying that if I didn't take the subutex things could have been so much worse. Now I'm sitting here watching my beautiful 6 week old baby boy sleep and wondering at how much amazingly better my life is now than it was a year ago.

I know that I kind of rambled but I wanted to make sure that I included everything because there's so little out there about subutex. I hope this is helpful and if anyone has any questions that I didn't answer or just want to talk to someone that's been through it feel free to send me a message.

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by mommy2be2x, Dec 22, 2009
Does anyone know how long you will have to be off Subutex in order for the pain meds to work fully?

  I am pregnant with my second child, due in March.  With my first, I had horrible back pain and was on vicodin (perscribed by my OB) throughout the entire thing.  She came out perfectly healthy and had no withdrawls.  Turns out I have 2 herniated discs, but with some physical therapy, the pain was reduced and I was able to go off the vicodin.  After that, I decided to seek help getting off rather than quit cold turkey due to having a new born at home.  I didn't want to take the risk that I would have withdrawls and not be able to care for my baby properly.  Anyway, I went to see a DR who specializes in addiction as well as other psychiatric problems (I should also mention that my main problem and reason for going was my anxiety and panic attacks).  Of course, when he heard I was still taking the vicodin, he said that it was making my anxiety WORSE and that I should come off as soon as possible.... so he gave me suboxone.  He had me on 16mg's a day, which, looking back.... was WAYYY too much (I was only taking 4-6 vicodin/day... not to down play it, but I read online that 16mg's was for someone who was doing a lot more opiates).  So, suboxone turned out to be a MIRACLE drug!!  It cured my anxiety and of course, helped me to have no w/d's or even WANT vicodin.  I was on it for a year b/c it worked with my anxiety so well, and that was actually the clinical reason for it being perscribed.... (although, no dr will EVER believe me when I tell them that).  

I got pregnant with my 2nd on my first's one yr birthday (go figure) and immediately switched to subutex (at about 10 weeks).  I've been taking 8mg's a day of subutex ever since (I'm 28 weeks pregnant right now).  So here is my dilema... I had a c-section with my first and my dr's want to do another (won't let me vbac).  I know that I will need to recieve pain meds to make me comfortable after the section.  Does anyone know how long you will have to be off the sub before the pain meds will work??  I plan on tapering down, as well.  Oh.. and my doc says just 3 days, but I don't believe that.  I had to have a TEE (trans esophageal ecocardiagram) to look at my heart and they used versed and fentnil to "relax" me into a fog, but when they gave me the meds, it was like nothing happened... so they just kept giving me more, and more and more and eventually just put me out with general.  I told them I was on sub (suboxone at the time), and they said that wasn't the reason it didn't work.... that sometimes it just doesn't work right in young women (i'm 27).  At the time, I had not taken any suboxone for 3 days... so you see why i'm doubtful.  I'm a total baby and WILL NOT be able to tough it out with no pain meds after major surgery.  So, if i begin the taper (to 4mgs starting tomorrow, then hopefully to less fairly quickly), how long do you think I will have to be NOT on it at all for the drugs to work??  I swear, the w/d from sub is SO MUCH WORSE than the w/d's i felt with vicodin.  Part of me wishes I never took the sub and just toughed it out, but I can't say that it hasn't helped me.  Also, I know that the only difference b/w suboxone and subutex is that subutex has no naloxone, but does anyone know if the half life is any shorter on the subutex as compared to the suboxone??  I've only ever stopped taking the suboxone, not the subutex.  And.... how long does the w/d last from subutex?  I've heard it's long and the little experience i've had, has confirmed that.  

I guess to sum it up... if ANYONE HAS HAD A C-SECTION WHILE BEING ON SUBUTEX, PLEASE RESPOND.  No dr I have seems to know what they're talking about, so you all are my only hope for some correct info.  Thanks!!!

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by worriedjan2010, Jan 09, 2010
HI i am currently 37 weeks preggo and am on 4 mil grams of subutex. I was on 2mg of suboxone through the forst 4 month of my pregnacy untill they switched me to subutex. I was  feeling sick so my doctor told me to go up . My baby is doing great. I'm 31 and was on suboxone for 1 yr and was about to get off completly when i found out i was pregg0. I don't want to have an epidural when I deliver and was wondering if anyone else knows of a painkiller i can take.  I'm due in 2 and a half weeks and am also scared about the baby withdrawling and if c.p. s. gets involed with any of your babies. Both my doctors know everthing , but they know so little about the medication, there used to methidone and herione but not much about subutex. My concern is has  anyone who is or was on 4mg ,did there baby w/d hard or have to stay in the hospital ?, They say it depend on the baby's weight but every baby is different.  Has c.p.s been involed with anyone? I am just worried about all the unknowns.. My doctors say I have an A+ baby. My subutex doctor doesn't really tell me anything and wanted me to take 8mg even though i was on 2 then 4mg , he said I was being selfish to try and cut down even more and that the hospital will think of me like someone who is on herione. My  obgyn doctor has been very nice and has given me ultra sounds every 2 months to check how the baby is growing and has said it was very good. Its 6 ilbs. 8 oz right now and i dont need to come for anymore u/s. I am so glad i'm not alone ,and all you other recovering moms,THANKS for posting  ur experiences. If anyone has any info about my questions i would be so relieved. BY CONCERNED MOM

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by scaredmom40, Jan 13, 2010
I am 11 weeks pregnant, I have been on Norco/Vicodin for 3 years because of my back. They are starting me on Subutex tomorrow. I am SO scared. I have been trying to stop the meds for so long but it is hard. I want this baby more than anythng in the world and I am so angry with myself for putting myself and my baby in this situation. I didn't think there was so many people out there like me, it is comforting, my Dr. said he will start me on 6mg a day and then gradually go down, he said by the time the baby is here I will be off the medicine completely so the baby will not be addicted and I can breastfeed. It scares me when I read about people having miscarriages it would send me and my boyfriend ( he is on Suboxone) back to drugs.

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by LucaBella, Jan 25, 2010
I am 17 weeks pregnant today.  Everyday I search desperately to find information on the effects of subutex or suboxome and xanax while pregnant.  I can't say that I feel completely relaxed, but I am so thankful to have found this page.  I'd like to hear from someone who has taken both subutex and xanax during their preganancy.  I'm not just looking for someone who has a wonderful success story, but would like to hear from someone who had a negative outcome.  I'm so worried about the damage I could be causing my child.  Both my Addiction Specialist and my OBGYNE are so ambilvalent. Although they prescribe it, neither seem to want to commit to telling me that that it is absolutely ok or not ok.  I need guidance.  I take up to 2 mg a day of xanax for panic/anxiety and 4 mg a day of subutex for pain.  At this point, I'm maintaining to avoid withdrawl.  I just want to hear what could happen to my baby.  I cannot find difinitive answers.  I read that it may cause developmental problems for my baby, but what developmental problems?  If someone can give me an answer, I'd be forever grateful.  My goal is to taper off both meds before I begin my 3rd trimester.  At this point, I don't need the meds as much we're keeping me from going through withdrawl.  Thanks for your stories.  

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by yomoedmb, Feb 25, 2010
I am 34 weeks pregnant now and just got put on Subutex two weeks ago.  I am taking 4 mg twice a day.  I was addicted to Oxycontin for about three years before I went onto Suboxone a few weeks before I got pregnant, surprise!  I didn't tell my OB for the first few months because I thought I could get off of it by myself.  I went through withdrawal after a day or two without Suboxone, and I do agree that Suboxone withdrawal is worse than actual opiate withdrawal just because it lasts so long.  I feel like the actual withdrawal isn't as strong, it's just constant and forever. By not as strong I mean that I don't get the leg cramps as badly or the chills as much, but the insomnia is still unbearable especially since it lasts for weeks.  I stayed off of the Suboxone for around 5 days but went back on since I could not eat and was having horrible stomach issues.  After I went back on it I started doing research and saw how dangerous it was that I had gone off of it myself because I could have miscarried my baby.  I finally told my Gyn when I was about 3 months pregnant and they got me set up with a Clean Start program which is a recovery program for pregnant women or women with children.  They provide counseling and group and private sessions as well as a referral to a Suboxone doctor.  Where I live it is not easy to be put on Suboxone, probably to deter people who abuse it or just sell it.  You have to meet with many people and have mental health help and be okayed before you are given a prescription.  So, finally I am on Subutex 8 mg, 4 mg twice a day.  I am very happy being on it because I trust this medicine more than Methadone.  The only reason that Methadone is the first medicine for pregnant women is because it has been around for so long and has lots of data to back it up.  They know how to handle methadone addicted people and babies.  With Subutex babies it is a guessing game whether they will withdrawal or not and how to handle it since it can send a baby into instant withdrawal to put them on another opiate while there is still suboxone in their system.  

I just want to say that if anyone is considering stopping the use of Suboxone or Subutex to please inform a doctor about it before they do.  On the suboxone the chance of miscarriage is high if you stop cold turkey, really the chance of withdrawal or stress on the baby is very high when you stop anything cold turkey (cigarettes, alcohol, etc.) On the Suboxone website you can talk to a counselor on there that will provide a list of doctors that are local that you can talk to about everything going on.  Just remember that no matter what people say about you or how much they judge you you are doing the right thing.  You are no longer abusing opiates, you are under control.  Just remember that just by taking Suboxone or Subutex doesn't mean you are clean you have lots of meetings and molding of you that has to be done, and having your beautiful healthy child by your side will give you the strength you need.  The thought of relapse doesn't even cross my mind because my child is the most important thing in the world to me, and he hasn't even arrived yet.  I would do anything for him, and to be able to do that I have to get clean first.

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by amberdee_90, Mar 09, 2010
i had a baby 3 days ago on subtex...i was on suboxon before i found out that i was...the thought of being on some pillwhile being prego messed with my head everyday. the doctors told me that my baby could withdrawl from it after he was born. and now he is born and been in the hospital for 3 days(well since he has been born. he is doing great so far and he is off his IV and antibiotics and hopefully be coming home soon. i was prescribed 8mgs 3xs a day(24mgs) but i slowly got myself down to just just 8mgs 1 time a day.. and my baby still had to stay in the hospital which by the way is like 2 hours away from where i live. and i have no licsence and my boyfriend does not either. so we have to bum a ride 2 hours away and the money for gas is so stupid. but anyway its jus maditory for him to stay in the hospital incase he withdrawls which he has not shown any signs of yet. but its the worst thing to go home and not be able to bring your baby home too...and it makes me sad that i had to be so selfish and keep gettin high and then i had ot go on medication to prevent me from withdrawl and to wein myself of of narcotics. and put my baby at risk of dieing if i didnt take subutex the truth is if i knew what i know now i would have jus quit..but he is fine an dhe is very healthy and beautiful..thank god!!! but if you have a choice DONT TAKE ANYTHING WHILE YOUR ARE PREGO(besides your prenatal vitamins) or anything else that wont give your baby withdrawls. but thats all the choice is yours and yours only...

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by bethanymck, Mar 21, 2010
I am currently 37 1/2 weeks pregnant & I am taking 5mg of Subutex. I was on 16mg of Suboxone when I found out I was pregnant, but wanted to get on as low a dose as I could while being pregnant. It's been so scary wondering if my baby's going to be born & have withdraws or not & reading some of these posts really helped me, especially the ones that say they know of babies born on Subutex w/o ANY withdraw symptoms! It gives me hope! So far, all of my ultrasounds have been great & the baby is growing good! I'm hoping since I'm only on 5mg, that everything will be ok, but it's still in the back of my mind that there is a possibility that my baby girl might have to stay in the hospital for a couple weeks! But, I guess I'll know the outcome in a couple of weeks! I'll try to get on here & let everyone know how things turned out, in the hopes that it might help someone else who is worried about whether their baby will be ok or not! Maybe my experience can give someone else in this situation some peace of mind, like your alls post have given me!

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by Morgx316, Apr 09, 2010
im not a woman but my wife just gave birth to our 4th child, 9lb 14oz baby girl. my wife was switched to subutex(4mg) when she got pregnant. we are really upset @ how some of the nurses are treating my wife. they are making her feel like a junky. baby is fine but they keeping her for 5 days to monitor. they say some of her startling movements could b signs of withdrawl. i sometimes think they never say babies b4. does any1 know what the treatment is for withdrawl 2 subutex in newborns, we get no info there. i know they dont use meth. everything i read so far says is babies just need more cuddling and comfort. im not sayn 2 lie 2 doctors but subutex dont show in reg urine test and the way we getn treated we are wishn we didnt say nothing. not to say all hospitals are the same but magee is bad. we are very disapointed since all our babies were born there. when they changed to upmc they went downhill. it now a teaching hospital and we feel they using our baby as a guinne pig, cause so much is not known about subutex. our baby is great and healthy, to all u moms who scared just try 2 b strong and stay with your baby in hospital even if they keep her/him cause care  in nursery *****. my wife is appauled how much they ignore the babies.

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by Morgx316, Apr 09, 2010
AND if your on subutex please dont get down on yourself because you are doing right thing, my wife was in accident and was hooked on pain meds from the doctor for years. Getting off the pain meds was best thing she ever did. YOU are doin this 2 be off the bad. be proud of yourself for taking that step. there are toooo many ppl that dont give the effort 2 get off and the baby suffers for that. Hold your head up and just b there for the babies

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by BabyBooluv, May 06, 2010
Hello everyone.I am 37 weeks pregnant right now..im due on May 21st!! im having a baby girl and am so excited! I have been in the suboxone program for 3 years. I was seeing one doctor for about a year and a couple months n I had to leave there due to a change in the insurance they were accepting(long story) but i switched to a new doc immediately and have been with them for a while now. They switched me to subutex when i found out i was pregnant. I was taking 4 mg suboxone before i got prego,now i take 4 mg subutex.I found out i was prego in Sept.,i got prego in August. So i basically got on the subutex instantly. My baby is doing great..shes measuring great n her heartbeat is great! Shes moving around so much in my tummy..lol. Shes ready soon! I reccommend ever1 that is on subutex to go to a doctor that knows about this stuff.Its not a good feeling to be judged or looked at funny. Ask your subutex doc for refferals to obgyns that are familiar with it.My subutex doctor gave me a bunch of places to go to n i listened n went n im so happy there.They r so knowledged about the meds n have tons of patients that take the same meds. they know about the babies after they r born n what to expect.My doc makes me feel so comfortable.They say most babies dont experience NAS n go home with the mommy when she leaves.,within 2 or 3 days.,They watch the baby closely for a couple days n if they baby is doin good then u can take him/her home.But u still have to watch your baby closely incase any symptoms showed later..any withdrawl symptoms. But they said i shoukd be fine,im on suchh a low dose n have been doin so great throughout my pregnancy! so,im praying she is ok n wont feel anything from the meds..its all in gods hands! Ive talked to alot of woman at my sub doc too that have had babies n they took their baby home when they went home n the baby experienced no NAS! My obgyn/baby doc said the same thing.The only cases that the baby had NAS was usually the woman who were on heavy doses of methadone or using drugs still n not being honest durin their pregnancy. they babies hahd to stay longer n were given a medicine n they werre weaved off the med n than when they were better they went home.I dont know how anyone could still use drugs when pregnant..i thinkk its sad n makes me feel terrible for the babies that go through that. I stopped takin pills a few yrs ago n i will nvr touch em ever agin..the subutex has really helped me ALOT! Im against all pill taking n heroin use..i look at it way different now.N for the mothers who r still usin while pregnant please stop n take subutex. Please! ull hurt yourself n ur baby! U can do it! Im thankful for where i am right now in my life..im outa the bad neighborhood that had me usin n in abetter one,better house n clean for almost 3 yrs!!!! Good luck everyone!!!! Congrats on the pregnancies..PLEASE think about this! N stick with ur meds!! One more thing real quick..for the ladies whos doc told em to get off the sub,dont! Obviously that doc isnt familiar or knowledged about addiction n this medicine..so please switch to a doc that does! Ive read quite a few stories about women who miscarried when they quit takin the sub durin their pregnancy,Your body goes though a withdrawl from the sub n its harmful for u n ur baby. My docs both sub doc n obgyn told me to stay on it.Its either quit n risk miscarrying or fall back on the pills n harm yourself n the baby or stay on the sub n stay clean n have a healthy baby!! Good luck!! Pray we all have healthy little babys n everything goes great!! =)

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by Karen115, May 18, 2010
Hello everyone...I would just like to share my experience with pregnancy and subutex. Hopefully it will help somone else that has questions, like I did. Throughout my entire pregnancy, I was so worried about my past drug use and being on subutex while pregnant. I didn't know what to expect after my baby was born. I would go on-line and read posts by other people, hoping to find answers. Some of the things I read were very informative, some were comforting, and others were scary. The bottom line is that with subutex, because it is a fairly new drug and not a lot of studies have been done, a lot of doctors won't perscribe it to a pregnant woman. They opt for the methadone route, simply because they know more about it. Well, I am here to tell you that subutex is much better to be on while pregnant than methadone. So if you can find a doctor, do it! I am so glad I found my doctor and didn't have to get on methadone...again. Also, the main thing to keep in mind in the beginning, is that it is much more of a risk for a pregnant woman to detox than it is to stay on the drug. Obviously, you don't want to continue using heroin while you're pregnant, but it is safer to take suboxone or subutex than it is to detox cold turkey. This could cause your baby to die. There have not been any studies that show any kind of birth defect or diseases linked to opiate use during pregnancy. It is actually way more dangerous to drink alcohol than it is to shoot heroin. Again, I'm not recommending this. My advice is to IMMEDIATELY tell your doctor all the drugs you have been abusing. Honesty is the best policy and the only way the doctors can help you. They can't take your baby away from you before it is born, but if you don't tell your doctors and get the help you need, and then you have your baby and there are drugs in your system, they WILL take the baby from you. Dont be afraid to tell the truth and ask for help! The sooner, the better...for you and your baby.  I started out taking 8mgs a day after I first found out I was pregnant. I quickly went down to 6mgs. a day and then to 4mg, which I remained at for the rest of my entire pregnancy. I figured the lower the dose, the better chance my baby wont have to go through withdrawal. Even though doctors say the dose doesnt matter, I did it anyway. I know the pain, irritability, discomfort, and agony of withdrawal. I didnt want my baby to go through that because of my bad decisions. We all make mistakes...the important thing is we pick ourselves up, ask for help, and make things right again - to the best of our ability. My baby was due on May 11, 2010. On May 1, around 5:00pm, my water broke. This was my third child. I had been clean throughout both of my other pregnancies. I went to the hospital and my labor came fast and hard. I could've had an epidural - there's no effects that epidural has with the subutex. I opted not to have one however. I figured, I could take the pain. And maybe I was supposed to feel this. Why should I have an epidural and get off easy if there's a chance my baby could suffer? So I had my son at 10:06pm. Less than 5 hours after my water broke. He was born perfectly healthy. But we wouldn't know for at least 2-3 days whether or not he would go through any withdrawal. So the doctor from the NICU came down and talked with us and explained that they would keep the baby in the hopsital for 5 days. If after 5 days, he's not showing any signs or symptoms, then he could go home. The first couple days he was doing great. I was trying to prepare myself for the worst. I was expecting that on the third day, the withdrawal would set in. I talked with many different doctors and nurses about my situation and also a social worker. They all told me different things. Basically based on their own opinions or experiences they had with other patients. The bottom line was always the same, every baby is different. Every situation is different. There's no way of know for sure what will happen. But if he makes it 5 days and is still doing well, chances are he won't have any withdrawal. I prayed very hard every day. He continued to do well. Fortunately, he was released after 5 days and I was able to bring my baby home. He never showed any signs of withdrawal. He is now a little over 2 weeks old and is still doing great. He is a very good baby. Sleeps and eats well, doesn't cry unless he's hungry or needs to burp. Also, I am breastfeeding him. It is completely safe to breastfeed if you're on subutex. The label on the medication may say you can't, but most medications say that. I talked with the doctors and also a lactation consultant and they all told me it was completely safe. Breastmilk is the best for your baby, and the pros definitely outweigh any cons. Anyhow, I hope this helps someone else that may be going through the same thing. I know how worried I was and how frustrating it was to have so many questions and no answers. The main thing I've learned is that subutex is definitely better than methadone. Many more babies born to methadone mothers go through withdrawal than those born to woman taking subutex. And if your baby does show signs of withdrawal, the doctors will consider putting the baby on medication. This causes the baby's hospital stay to be much longer. The social worker told me that with babies born on methadone, she has seen them stay 4- 6 weeks and some as long as 8 week. And with subutex babies, she has seen them stay 2-4 weeks, some as long as 6 weeks. If you're pregnant and addicted, dont beat yourself up - just talk to your doctor and get help right away!  Dont let guilt, fear and shame make the situation worse. Also, keep in mind that all hospitals and doctors are different also, and may have different policies on how to handle these situations. A piece of advice, do some research. Check out the hospital. There are some hospitals in my city that aren't equipped to deal with these babies so they send them out to other facilities after they're born. I was fortunate that the hospital I delivered in is one of the best in the city and has an excellent NICU and a very knowledgable, experienced staff. Check out your doctors. Remember, this is your baby, its never too late to do whats best for him or her and make sure you have a healthy baby!

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by nyoung04, May 23, 2010
Hi all I am brand new to this board but would like to share my experience with being pregnant and taking subutex.

When I first found out I was pregnant I was taking suboxone and my therapist (who was prescribing me this) told me it was SAFE to take while pregnant, so I continued taking it (this was at the end of Sept. 2009 btw). About a month later I began developing stones in my salivary gland and this was discovered at the dentist because I told him I was pregnant but COULD NOT EAT because everytime I ate or even THOUGHT about food, saliva would try to come out of my duct underneath my tongue but couldn't pass thru because there was a stone blocking it and then my right gland would swell up to the size of a golf ball!! The pain was HORRIBLE and he (my dentist) ended up prescribing me lortab 5mg. Well with my long term addiction to lortab, I had to take 5 of them to even TOUCH the pain. He also referred me to see a maxifacial surgeon to see what could be done about this stone. Well, after I seen the surgeon, he said he couldn't do anything about it because he doesn't do that kind of work. He told me I had to see an Ear, Nose, and Throat dr. for that. Well with my insurance, I had to set an appointment up with my PCP and have him refer me to one. Finally after been given the "run around" for a month, I FINALLY got into an ENT. He wouldn't do ANYTHING about it since I was pregnant but prescibe me an anti-biotic (since it was also infected) and MORE pain medicine. Finally I hit me 2nd trimester and on Dec. 1, 2009, he did a minor surgery on me where they basically just use novacaine and they cut the floor of my mouth open and took the stone out (now typically in these types of situations they actually put you under and remove your entire gland) but since I was prego, he didn't want to do that. Well of course after the surgery I was still being prescribed pain meds. AND THEN I ended up developing ANOTHER ONE! And they removed that one on Dec. 31st, 2009. Finally I stopped taking pain meds and went back to my suboxone dr. in the middle of Jan. 2010. He then switched me to subutex and had me on 24mgs a day! I took it as prescribed and I was scheduled for a c-section May 12, 2010. So two weeks before my surgery I began taking a half a pill a day (4mgs) and then 4 days before my c-section I didn't take any at all! The c-section went perfectly fine, but after the spinal wore off I was in THE WORST AMOUNT OF PAIN IMAGINABLE!! They were giving me morphine, dialud(sp?) and the finally they started giving me 2 10mg percs and a shot of morphine every 4 hours which actually helped.

Now about my daughter, she was born 5lbs and 5oz. and is 17 1/2 inches long. The nurses had no idea about the subutex and I didn't say anything because I told my OBGYN I was taking it and I figured that was in my records, well it wasn't. She has been having problems sucking, therefore, she wasn't eating much AT ALL. She was born on a Wed. and I was discharged that Fri. and found out my baby couldn't come home with me AT THE LAST MINUTE (talk about HEARTBREAKING)!! They said she needed to stay an extra day so they can get her to eat more, well the next day came, and she still couldn't come home. Finally my husband told me that he went to the nursery and asked if the subutex I was taking had anything to do with her eating problems and they said they had no idea I was taking that and they told him that was a VERY BIG POSSIBILITY. After 4 days past of my baby girl being in there, the nurses FINALLY stopped beating around the bush and told us that our daughter was going thru some extreme withdrawls. She was then admitted into the special care unit were they had to stick a tube down one of her nostrils that lead into her tummy to help her eat. I was SO TORN UP ABOUT THIS because I thought this medicine was perfectly safe for me to take while she was in my womb!! Today is May 23, 2010 and she has been there since the 12th. They have a specialist (a neonatologist sp?) watching her and they have ran EVERY TEST THINKABLE on her to rule out anything else and she is healthy as can be!! At the beginning of them realizing she was withdrawling, she was scoring really high on her NAS, she was steadily at an 9. She also lost 3oz (which with her being tiny as it is she couldn't afford to loose ANY weight). But now she is scoring a 4 on her NAS, she is up to weighing 5.1 and the specialist informed me today that she will be discharged once they see her eating 45mls for 24 hours straight by herself and yesterday was the FIRST TIME SHE DID IT!! She has been doing that on and off, but it's starting to get more consistant! So we're praying she will be home AT LEAST in the next 3 days.

Now I have a question that I am hoping someone can help me with. DHS contacted me yesterday saying that she wanted to come to my home and have a meeting with me this Monday to go over my history and etc. (she wouldn't tell me much). And right now my husband and I are seperated and I am SO SCARED they are going to give her to him since I was once addicted to these stupid pain killers. But my husband on the other hand went to jail while I was pregnant for Domestic Assault and Battery on my and Assault in the prescence of a minor (I also have a 3 yr. old son). Does anyone know what I should expect at this meeting? This DHS lady did tell me that someone called in about concerns as far as the baby and the withdrawls. Has anyone else been through anything like this before? I'm PRAYING that she just sees that I was REALLY TRYING to be a good mother/person by taking subutex and the whole reason for her to meet with me at my home is so she can see my living conditions and make sure my home doesn't look like a crack house or something. If anyone has ANY INFO please let me know! I would GREATLY APPRECIATE IT!! And good luck to all the mommy's out there that are taking this drug and I REALLY HOPE NONE of you will have to experience ANYTHING like THIS!!! God Bless YOU ALL!!!

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by mommyof3kiddos10, May 31, 2010
this is a reply to nyoung24..


I had my son on wednesday (may 26 2010) I was also on the Subutex throughout my pregnancy and thought it was safe, but he is having some withdraws and also has a feeding tube because he wont take the full amount from a bottle that he should be taking. we were also discharged on friday and today is monday and he is still there. So i talked to the Dr. there at the NICU and he said it could take up to 2 weeks for him to be weaned off of the subutex, they have him on morphine to help with the withdraw symptoms. Do you know if they have your baby on this?? They had it on file that I was on subutex so they knew as soon as he was born to monitor him for withdraw symptoms, so it is mandatory that they send in a Social worker to your room in the hospital to get your info and make sure your not abusing the subutex or any other drug. Since they didnt have it on file at the hospital that you were on subutex, you were probably released before they knew and didnt get a chance to send a social worker to your room in the hospital so they will probably have to come to your home just to ask all these simple questions to be sure your not lying about being prescribed these and all that...its nothing to worry about, just be honest and let them know you were taking this under the care of a doctor. My son is still in there and he was having really extreme withdraws too but he is getting better, they are going to start weaning him off the morphine tomorrow so I am hoping he is in there no longer than 2 weeks. Good luck with your daughter and I wish you the absolute best!! I hope this helps some!  Take care


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by ashlasltristan, Aug 13, 2010
Hey I wanted to post I have not in a long time My son takes alot of my time.

I had a great experienc with sub and pregnancy, I was terrified and worried because so little is known about this but I have to say I had a child born on methadone and now tristan on subutex, My first had a lot of withdrawal and needed meds Tristan had a bit of withdrawal and no meds just needed a little extra love.

He was only in hospital once xtra day I even breastfed a little.

He is more developmentally developed than my first was Stefan (methadone ) is fine now but needed more attention

My delivery was easy I had an epidural Doc did give me shot of morphine first but of course that didnt touch me

I made sure that doctors known not to give narcan if not completely necessary

I did have some issues with nurses not knowing enough and treated him like methadone baby and the child care worker did call children and youth but she told them i was gonna be a good mom and I did not loose him . I do have a case open with them but they are helpful now I stay clean and have no problems with them.

I did contact the child services when i was five mths pregnant

I decided to come back here I got an email yesterday from a pregnant woman on sub and was glad to show her pics and information

Anyone needs help or just someone to talk to please email me with any questions. Unless you are against sub during pregnancy I want to only help women who need my experience on subutex not arguments from people who are closed minded.

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by lotty327, Oct 18, 2010
i am 9 weeks pregnant im on subutex i was on 16mg n reduced myself to 2mg before i got pregnant so when i wen to the doctors 2weeks ago he said we can get you of 2mg in 2 weeks so put me on 1.6 i went down to 2x 0.4 and my legs started acheing so i went bk to doctors because i was meant to start on one 0.4 today but felt it was impossable when i went to doctors today it was a different doctor and he said i should never have started to withdraw i was fumming it was the other doctor who told me to if any thing would have happened i wouldnt know what id of done he has put me back up to 2mg and doesnt want me to reduce at all whilst pregnant and said as the baby grows i might have to goup some more i dont really understand why im so scared if any 1 knows any imformation that may help me please let me know ive got my first app with midwife in the morning i want this baby so much and am really scared

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by melhammonds, Nov 01, 2010
Hello to everyone and congrats! I am 31 yr old and 36 weeks prego :) so happy. I have been on suboxen for almost 2 years and completly clean, it saved my life. I started takiing pills when I was 15 and never stoped for more than two days exsept when I has my 1st daughter. After them sending me home with 120 percs. I started all over again, but came to my sences and got help. When I started my program they told me to try to not get preg. but come on, when your in love with the man of your dreams things happen and now we are having are 2nd :) Anyways, I was on suboxen then switched to subutex and still doing great. I am however sooooo... worried about my little one, I guess it's the not knowing more than anything and her measuring small. So I Have So Many????? for those who have already had their little ones/or not, Was your baby small?Did they go though withdraws? How long did it last, if any? How long where they in the nicu, if any? How long did they have to stay in the hosp? Has Anyone had to have a C-Section on subutex (I have to)? What did they do for your pain? Thank You for any answers I may go in tommarow and they might take her, my placenta is "poopin out" getting old what ever really kinda worried :( So anyways keep up all the great work guys and Thank You!!!!

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by lotty327, Nov 10, 2010
im 12 weeks now and just found out im having twins im so happy but theres a chance i will need a c section what pain relife can you get this is my first time oh and ive gone up to 4mg now as you need more as baby grows is this true aswell but in my case its coz theres 2 aswell any one with any infomation i am grateful to hear thanks and congratulations to all xx

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by justicetlj, Dec 06, 2010
I was so scared last night until I read these reassuring posts.  I was on 32 mg of Suboxone a day.  I have been on this high dose for 3 yrs.  But I had an addiction problem than spans over 20 yrs.  I also run the risk of being 41 yrs old.  I was afraid to go to the dr.  I am 5 weeks pregnant.  I also have had 4 miscarriages.  I am very afraid I will have another one.  I went to the ob. dr. today.  He also does not know much about suboxone or subutex.  But I didn't feel judged in any way, which was very important to me.  I am not willing to go off my medication.  I have been in rehab 10 times or better and quite  literally lost everything.  I can't take risk of going off meds.  I can't go with out them & I know it.  I read all of these comments last night and felt so much better.  My suboxone dr. switched me to the subutex.  8 mg. four times a day.  I start on it tomorrow.  I go back to ob dr. in two weeks.   I am feeling like I will sleep so much easier tonight!!!!!

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by ohbaby1671, Dec 16, 2010
hey girls...okay long story. I am 13 weeks and 5 days pregnant. i found out i was pregnant 18 days after conception not my lmp but conception, yes i know the day, but thats not the point i was on suboxone, but not prescribed as clinics around here cost an arm an a leg bout 400 per month plus the cost of meds so i immediately called a clinic and got in and got switched to subutex with in days. now at almost 14 weeks my obgyn has started a clinic and he knows absolutely nothing about it at all. the way he talks if the baby cries they put them on morphine around here when they're born. I also have hep c, which complicates things a little bit but the risk to the baby is extremely low 1-4 %. i did not however contract it from drug use. my exfiance before i ever started doing pills had been a drug user in the past he didnt know he had it until we had been together for over a year so needless to say shared razors toothbrushes are the likely culprit as i have never been an IV user. Since becoming pregnant i have been a wreck. just an emotional wreck i want this baby more than anything, the man of my dreams is my fiance and i couldnt ask for someone that i could love more and to love me more. but my dr. is really getting to me and its like i have no choice around here because i cant afford to stay in the clinic and now my ob is lic. to do my sub script. if i had known i was going to get pregnant i wouldve stopped the suboxone before hand and suffered through it but now i feel like i cant for risk to the baby and today. also i am type 1 diabetic... so then i quote my dr today "I mean you've already got diabetes, hep c, do you know my wifes uncle is in the hospital right now dying of hep c, if you dont start taking care of yourself your going to be dead by the time your 30" Im 24 now. as if i caught diabetes. i said well actually if my financial situation was better i wouldve already began treatment for the hepatitis i was hoping to start next year the specialist i saw recommended i start in the next 3 years and that was last nov." he then replies.."to my knowledge there is no treatment for hepatits c" so i then explain to him that there is what the treatment is and the success rate for the different genotypes of the virus. and i keep tight control on my sugar have been religious about keeping it checked and in the right range since becoming pregnant which he has evidence of, ive told him how i contracted hep c, that my drug use only began after the most likely onset of my diabetes which no doctor in my rinky dink little town could diagnos for over a year until i finally diagnosed my self and went to a doc with proof my sugar was at least over 600 bc thats as high as otc test meters go and was finally put on insulin, and turns out since i lived a lone my doctor said i was lucky that i took it upon myself to do that as if i had waited much longer i likely wouldve went into a coma and died. after that diagnosis i was started suboxone and have been clean since. the reason i got addicted to pain pills in the first place is because it was the only thing i could do after going to dr after dr and them not seeing a connection in my symptoms to give me the energy to get up every day and go to work or even get up and do anything for that matter i was soo tired and exhausted all the time. ive explained all that to my dr. and took immediate steps to make sure i do whats right for my baby as soon as i took the preg test and get talked to that way and then find out he barely knows anything about any of my conditions and hes supposed to be the specialist in the area who works with "a lot of the girls from the clinic here that are pregnant" i swear i am an educated person(promise..im not trying to make this not just one big runon sentence that might not make much sense) i just feel like im not in the best hands but its where i have to stay so, what i really need is just some of you guys who have had these babies or who have better drs than mine to let me know about your dosage around delivery, the babys nas scores and wd symptoms and hospital stay time. i mean im a good person i swear i had a drug problem but it was secret, i worked twice as hard to be able to afford what i bought myself which makes it no better by any means but i just hate the criticism i dont want to hurt my baby, i want him/her to be happy and healthy more than anything in this world, and i do take care of myself i guess maybe i should just punch the doc in the face huh? thatd make me feel better. :) any words of encouragement on how babies are doing or how other pregnancies are going that are in my same/similar situation would be good, this is the only place to post that ive found that had anything recent at all. but neways this is way loong enough.. prayers for all u moms, n moms  to be n good luck

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by Tfmomof3, Jun 21, 2011
Just a question, when u have a baby, do they always check them for w/d or only if they know or think their is a problem?

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by whitney111, Jun 23, 2011
Hey i was wondering how do you find a doctor that knows about subutex? My doctor was so judgemental and told me she wont deliver unless im clean!! I want a doctor that is familar with it... PLEASE HELP

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by MissaH, Jul 29, 2011
Hi This is for Tfmomof3, yea they always check for w/d symtoms. It is best! I had my baby on Nov 30th she weighed 6.14 and I was on 28 mg a day. My babies doc. came in on the 2nd day and Tobi was showing just a tad bit of trembles, nothing bad at all. I just gave her alittle more tlc than norm. I sleept with her and cuddle her alot she was fine stayed in the room with me the full 5 days and went home with me. I was soooo worried that my high dose would effect her, but like i said she was totaly fine. I really believe that the extra tcl i gave her helped!!!! She is now 8 moths and a bid rollie pollie! She is GREAT! Hope this helps everyone, and keep up the great work!

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by AndreaD1981, Aug 22, 2011
I was put on Subutex for opiate withdrawal when I discovered I was pregnant in January 2010. I was told that the baby would be completely fine and have little to no w/d's. First I have to say I did have a pretty normal pregnancy and the Subutex was an amazing help. I really wanted to wean myself off though so that I could breastfeed but when I tried my cravings for opiates came back and were impossible to ignore so my addiction doctor told me to just stay on them. When my son was born the hospital treated me like a complete drug addict. They knew nothing about Subutex and so a rumor spread throughout the nurses that I was on Vicodin. I had to tell them over and over again that NO I was NOT on Vicodin. As soon as my son was born they declared he was having withdrawals. I tried to nurse him hoping that some of the Subutex I was taking would get into his system and help soothe him (even though he seemed completely fine to me) but they refused to let me nurse him and they wisked him away to the NICU. They drug tested both of us and of course we came back clean so finally they started to trust me a bit. BUT because they refused to let me nurse my son he went into full on withdrawal and remained in the NICU for an entire month where they started him on Morphine and weaned him off little by little. My son is now 11 months old and completely healthy and even a bit advanced so I feel extremely lucky :) BUT it was a horribly experience that I wished never to have to go through again, OR put another baby of mine through that. So me and my fiance decided that the next time we tried to have a baby I would be completely off of the Subutex.....well guess what! I very unexpectedly found out that I am pregnant! And i am still on the Subutex....I am sooo depressed and don't know what to do.....Some advice would be much appreciated :)

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by nemo6606, Aug 27, 2011
I am a month prego with my second! When i had my 1st child i was on soboxen and my doctor told me to try to come off it after your 1st trimaster so thats what i did! I had a healthy son who was born drug free! I got back on it after i had him and 4 years later got pregnent again and this time my doctor is saying its not safe to come off it! Has anyone els come off it while being prego??

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by native23sugar, Nov 29, 2011
yes i was on suboxone first I have been on since July of 2010,I got pregnant around august of 2010 so the Dr. put me on subutex which can I just say changed my life!!!...I was on pills for over 4 years and highly addicted to them,I have been with my program for over a year and when I had my beautiful son on March 5th he was healthy and fine.I didnt breast feed but I told the Dr. i was because the suboxone strips suck and they dont help me at all I have to take at least 5 8 mgs just to feel a little better,like I said I am an addict,the subutex really does help me so much I am a fulltime mom I work at a very professional place and also go to school before starting my program in 2010 I was doing very badly.My doseage was at 24 mgs a day but my meds came up missing,I dont mess with my program at all so I know who it was,it was my sister who I really trusted I shouldnt have left them out but anyways my dr. dropped me a whole dose because of it!!!that was a month ago and Im still trying to get used to 16 mgs a day.I am now pregnant again and am due in may ,my children are fine and very smart they didnt have withdrawls at all,but I really hope that this july when I reach my two year mark that my dr. dont cut me off because these pills are seriously a god send to an addict,and am not at all ready to be off of them yet.I am looking around now to see if I can possibly find another dr. that will take me as a pt knowing that I  have already been on the program for over a year? idk but yes my babies are doing great and i wish nothing but the best for all the mothers with hardships like the terrible terrible diesease that pain pills bring.I
just hope my dr. puts my dose back up and lets me stay on the program until i am ready..k laters

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by marchmother910, Mar 27, 2012
I Just delivered a 7pd 6 ounce baby girl March 22,2012,today is 5 days since delivery and she is in the nicu as we speak.Some history on my situation of why is started subutex was because i was on hydrocodone when i sought treatment at 11 weeks pregnant,so for 7 months i was on subutex at the end 24mg 3 8mg tablets a day.I asked repeatedly would my child be okay at birth as far as withdrawl or the state intervening because it is a controlled substance.My dr. said "you will have a fat healthy baby and everything will be fine".I did all meetings and advanced in my treatment never sliding backwards and saw the subutex as a "safe" way of recovery while i was pregnant.Fast forward to last thursday when i delivered my daughter was born normal weight and healthy for the first 24hrs until she started showing signs of withdrawl and was taken to the nicu to be put on meds to help ease the discomfort from subutex.The state checked up with my dr. to make sure i was taking this med legally and until they got that info my baby would not have been released to my custody while in the nicu without that documentation.Here it is tuesday and i just got the call that i was cleared and could take my baby home as soon as she was released off the meds.My point is these babies Do in fact experience withdrawl when born and most if not all require meds only gave in the hospital,so your baby will not be released when you are.I am a private person but had to share what i have been through and again my daughter is still being weaned off the wd med now.If anyone tells you that your baby will have zero withdrawl affect they simply are not telling you the truth.Stopping this med while pregnant is the very best option.

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by mimimomi, Apr 26, 2012
I am 18 weeks Prego and im really debating getting off subutex. I take it illegally which I know is bad in the first place, so I can't tell my OB? And I jus am scared my baby will be born addicted. I'm about to 3mg/day. Will withdrawals hurt my baby worst than staying on it?  HELP!! Plz

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by jennap732, May 15, 2012
To the Person who stated, "stopping this med while pregnant is the very best option," has NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT! It angers me to think about anyone reading their post and actually attempting to stop their subutex while pregnant. Not only is that a bad idea, it can cause miscarriage, which has happened to many women sadly. please stay on your medication. And go to a doctor who is knowledgeable on this topic. Some doctors will flat out tell you to stop or that they wont deliver the baby until you are clean without knowing anything about this, sending you home to have a miscarriage. Getting help is the right thing to do for yourself and your baby. Being on a steady dose of subutex is safe. The person writing about their experience with their baby withdrawing was on 24 mg of subutex!! that is ridiculously HIGH! No wonder your baby had withdraws. I am working closely with my obgyn and my subutex doctor. A safer amount to deliver on would be around 2mg. that is 1/4 of an 8mg tablet. There have been plenty of mothers in my area who have safely delivered their babies with absolutely no problems at a 2mg dose. The doctor that kept you on 24 mg without ever lowering your dose was not very intelligent on the matter. I am very sorry for what you and your baby had to go through, but your story does not help to ease the minds of pregnant women on subutex, it makes them even more stressed about what could happen. These women may try to stop completely and risk miscarriage because your post makes them think subutex is harmful. Please, to everyone researching on this matter out there. DO NOT stop your medication. Continue taking it, and you may safely lower the dose. If you can lower yourself to 2mg slowly during your pregnancy, there is a 99% chance your baby will be born happy and healthy. And if i could give you another piece of advice, tell your doctor/obgyn everything. They need to be aware of all the meds your taking to be able to help you. And always seek multiple opinions, not every doctor is familiar with our situations. Best of luck to all of you! You are doing the right thing! Keep your head up!

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by tmarie1225, May 20, 2012
I am 37 weeks pregnant and been taking 16 mg of Subutex daily. After reading different comments from everyone, I AM TERRIFIED!!!! I had no idea the withdrawal symptoms for newborns was this serious!!! I was told (like many other pregnant women who are on this program) that Subutex is SAFE with very minimal withdrawal!! Reading these comments about babies being born with terrible NAS symptoms (tremors, jerking, crying, etc.) has me completely in a panic!!! I would've never stayed on this dosage had I read this information sooner! Both my OB-Gyn AND Sub Doc have been extremely casual about this! They just seem to think it's nothing to worry about?! I am going to wean myself these last few days/weeks that I have left and see if I can get away with only taking 4 mg a day instead. There are many women like myself who were on pain management (under a doctor's care) and over time, got addicted to the prescribed medicines. I chose to stop pain management and when I was having such severe withdrawals, I was REFERRED to my current doctor who prescribes Suboxone treatment. I had NO IDEA I was substituting one problem for another. Too many people are TRUSTING doctors for the right treatment and don't really understand what they are getting themselves into! Please don't judge or mistreat those WHO ARE ACTUALLY TRYING TO GET HELP when all we are doing is simply following doctor's orders! I WILL come back to this forum after I've had the baby to let you all know what my experience has been. I wish you all the best of luck. The only advice I can give is NOT to go cold turkey, you can def harm the baby & yourself!

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by amber41389, Jun 20, 2012
ok im kinda in the same boat except im not seeing a doc for mine and im about 3weeks pregnant now but here is the thing i dnt even take a whole one a day i  dnt even take a full half ive been tryin to stop and than i find out im pregnant since im not takin as much dose anyone think that i would misscarry if i go off it?? i just need someone who knows more about all this to tell me there advice cause im kinda alone in it all please help me

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by amber41389, Jun 20, 2012
i just wnt to b healthy for my baby i have two already and i have never been in this situation b4 ive always been strong and it wasnt an issue and it still isnt im just scared to miscarry

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by tmarie1225, Jul 06, 2012
Well I promised I would return to this forum for an **UPDATE** and here I am! The last time I was on here I was 37 weeks pregnant and scared out of my mind. I did exactly as promised and weaned down to only 4mg a day instead of the 16mg I was originally taking. Weaning myself wasn't as difficult as I thought it would be. I felt normal except for the sleeping at night (but that could've been the pregnancy too). My pregnancy ended up going to 41 weeks (yes, I was miserable!). Once I got to the hospital, the first thing I told them was that I was taking Subutex. And to my surprise, the nurses had no idea what I was talking about?! When I explained to them that it was an opioid agnostic to treat those suffering with withdrawals from extended use of narcotic drugs. They looked at me like I was some drug abuser and said something like, "Oh so that's like methadone! Your baby is going to be addicted! They'll have to keep him for weeks!!" I completely freaked out and my husband was furious! He said, "why would a doctor give a pregnant woman Subutex without informing them the dangers on a newborn infant?!" But he's right! I was never told how serious this drug was! And I never thought it would be compared to methadone?!! I thought methadone was for heroin abusers and people with SERIOUS drug habits?! It was enough to make my head spin with worry for my newborn baby. I explained to my nurse in complete detail why I was on subutex and made it clear to her that I was NOT a drug addict, but a victim of circumstance. Once she listened (and really listened) to me, she was extremely helpful in finding out as much information about this drug. To make a long story short, the baby was born COMPLETELY HEALTHY. He had NO withdrawal symptoms whatsoever! He was discharged along with me within 72 hours. The thing that my nurse did tell me though..was to look for withdrawal symptoms after a few days. Sometimes the symptoms can take up to 5 days to show up. Some hospitals require keeping the infant for those 5 days when they know the mother is an "addict". But because I was so upfront and honest with them, they had him discharged for me to keep an eye on him. It's important for you to discuss subutex with the baby's pediatrician too! I gave his pediatrician the heads up so he knew what to look for, plus he got as much info for the medication as well. My point is, be sure you are open and honest about using Subutex with everyone. You will find that if you just explain yourself, they will do whatever they can to assist you. Even the Lactation Consultant came in to talk to me about it. I wanted so desperately to breastfeed my baby, but they had concerns about that too. So they too did research and they found that ONLY 1.7 micrograms of subutex gets into the breast milk (tiny amount) and wouldn't be enough to harm the baby in any way, so they gave me the okay to go ahead a nurse him. To sum it all up, I think weaning myself was the best thing I could've done (and the nurses and doctors all agreed)....but not wean yourself so quickly to where you're putting you & your baby at risk in suffering from withdrawal. Putting yourself on the lowest dosage possible would be the best route for you and your baby. Also, keep everyone informed what is going on with this medication and BE HONEST! And lastly, DON'T let anyone judge you or make you feel guilty! You are getting help and that's all that matters!!! Good luck and hopefully, I have been helpful in some way.

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by mannymarie, Jul 28, 2012
i am 29 weeks.. on subutex and i have a constant racing heart.. did anyone experience this and will it go away?? being on this drug is my only option, i dont have another choice. just can hardly take it another day.. racing heart is making it to where i cant sleep let alone relax @ all.. any words to let me know this is normal & will go away soon!!??!!

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by mannymarie, Aug 11, 2012
its me again & i am still turning to you all for some advice. i really just need to know if having my heart racing is anything you guys went through while taking subutex.. please any response would be helpful.. i have seen my doc for this & since this is my only option i guess im just curious if it does go away or if any of you had this happen to you @all? doc does want to give me an EKG & possibly put me on a Beta Blocker.. but i really dont want to have to take anything else if its something that will eventually go away on its own... please any response would be helpful.. thanks!

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by bewtifull1204, Aug 31, 2012
I have been reading how good subutex is but I am on subutex now and want to have a baby, with all the posts I am not sure if it's OK to have a healthy baby while on subutex???  Can someone please post is it OK????  Please email me or post it ***@****,  or post in my FB Rebecca Roy Dubreuil???

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by Jase_n_cams_momma, Oct 15, 2012
My baby is due in a few days and I'm praying he doesn't have any wd symptoms, I have been on subutex since I found out that I was pregnant, when I found out I was on 75 mg of oxycodone and was switched to subutex.  The doctor prescribed me 2 8mg tabs a day. I have never taken that much earlier on I was taking 8 to 10mg a day but now I am taking on average 6 mg. I am hopeful that my baby will have little to no symptoms.  About 5 months ago a girl I know had a little boy and she had been taking 12mg a day, day one and two he was fine on days 3 and 4 he was a little fussy and by day 5 he was fine and 6 days after he was born he got the all clear and got to go home. He was never taken to NICU and didn't need any medications.  I know that all moms and babies are different but based on all the research I have done and what happened with her baby boy I am cautiously hopeful..

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by tryinsohard4normality, Nov 21, 2012
hi i'm new to this site & based in the united kingdom, are all of you based in America? i've been up all night reading every post!! i'm a bit confused as i don't know if here in the uk medical practices are the same. i don't even know if i'll get a reply! lol x

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by tmarie1225, Nov 29, 2012
Well I promised I would return to this forum for an **UPDATE** and here I am! The last time I was on here I was 37 weeks pregnant and scared out of my mind. I did exactly as promised and weaned down to only 4mg a day instead of the 16mg I was originally taking. Weaning myself wasn't as difficult as I thought it would be. I felt normal except for the sleeping at night (but that could've been the pregnancy too). My pregnancy ended up going to 41 weeks (yes, I was miserable!). Once I got to the hospital, the first thing I told them was that I was taking Subutex. And to my surprise, the nurses had no idea what I was talking about?! When I explained to them that it was an opioid agnostic to treat those suffering with withdrawals from extended use of narcotic drugs. They looked at me like I was some drug abuser and said something like, "Oh so that's like methadone! Your baby is going to be addicted! They'll have to keep him for weeks!!" I completely freaked out and my husband was furious! He said, "why would a doctor give a pregnant woman Subutex without informing them the dangers on a newborn infant?!" But he's right! I was never told how serious this drug was! And I never thought it would be compared to methadone?!! I thought methadone was for heroin abusers and people with SERIOUS drug habits?! It was enough to make my head spin with worry for my newborn baby. I explained to my nurse in complete detail why I was on subutex and made it clear to her that I was NOT a drug addict, but a victim of circumstance. Once she listened (and really listened) to me, she was extremely helpful in finding out as much information about this drug. To make a long story short, the baby was born COMPLETELY HEALTHY. He had NO withdrawal symptoms whatsoever! He was discharged along with me within 72 hours. The thing that my nurse did tell me though..was to look for withdrawal symptoms after a few days. Sometimes the symptoms can take up to 5 days to show up. Some hospitals require keeping the infant for those 5 days when they know the mother is an "addict". But because I was so upfront and honest with them, they had him discharged for me to keep an eye on him. It's important for you to discuss subutex with the baby's pediatrician too! I gave his pediatrician the heads up so he knew what to look for, plus he got as much info for the medication as well. My point is, be sure you are open and honest about using Subutex with everyone. You will find that if you just explain yourself, they will do whatever they can to assist you. Even the Lactation Consultant came in to talk to me about it. I wanted so desperately to breastfeed my baby, but they had concerns about that too. So they too did research and they found that ONLY 1.7 micrograms of subutex gets into the breast milk (tiny amount) and wouldn't be enough to harm the baby in any way, so they gave me the okay to go ahead a nurse him. To sum it all up, I think weaning myself was the best thing I could've done (and the nurses and doctors all agreed)....but not wean yourself so quickly to where you're putting you & your baby at risk in suffering from withdrawal. Putting yourself on the lowest dosage possible would be the best route for you and your baby. Also, keep everyone informed what is going on with this medication and BE HONEST! And lastly, DON'T let anyone judge you or make you feel guilty! You are getting help and that's all that matters!!! Good luck and hopefully, I have been helpful in some way.


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by spool14, Nov 14, 2013
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I've just found out I'm about a month pregnant & I'm extremely nervous! I've been on Subutex for over 2 years! I first started on them when I became pregnant w/my previous son. I'm not sure how to say this w/out scaring you but 33 days after he was born we lost him to SIDS. There wasn't anything on the autopsy that linked his death to Subutex but I can't help but to wonder because he did go through withdrawal for several days, & he also seemed to have trouble breathing. I'm just saying that I'm extremely concerned about my suboxone treatment during pregnancy, & also scared about miscarriage if I stop taking it!? Any feedback would b appreciated!

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by bballr1023, May 06, 2014
I have been taking suboxone for about  2 years off and on and when I found out I was pregnant switched to subutex. I have weened myself off suboxone before and went threw the withdrawals before I got pregnant. Then I had some triggers and to keep myself from using I started taking them again. After about 21/2 months of taking them I found out I was pregnant. Now I am 15 weeks and 6 days and taking 8 mg. I am planning on slowly lowering the dosage. I did tell my  ob-gyn and he told me  not to  stop taking it but to ween myself slowly to a lower dosage. He said that's what we usually do so  obviously it's not the first time for him. I was just so nervous to even tell him but I go back next week so I plan on asking him more about it. I am just so scared because i don't want the baby to go through withdrawals and some of my family members do not know I am taking it. They are going to wonder why the baby has to stay for a few days. I don't know what to do. I feel so guilty and do not want them to be upset with me. Please if anyone has any advice let me know.

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