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Decrease in supply?

Feb 12, 2013 - 18 comments

My daughter is almost 4 weeks old and EBF, I've noticed at night she becomes fussy and will latch on and unlatch the whole time I'm trying to BF, from either side. I'm going through the "deflated" stage where it doesn't feel like there's any milk, so I decided to pump and couldn't even get an oz, not even half an oz, so no wonder why she's fussy. Unless I go a few hours without her eating or pumping, it gets like this, almost no breast milk at all.. I'm worried I'll have to stop BF'ing and don't know how to increase my supply or what to do? I pumped for a few minutes on each side hoping that will increase my supply but I'm literally getting like a drip every few pumps so I don't even know if that's effective or not. Like I said if I go like 3-4 hours between any feedings I'll fill back up but she's obviously getting hungrier than that, it's almost like she's eating so much she's drained my supply and it's not coming back quickly at all..help!! :(

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by stacey10, Feb 12, 2013
Dot top and dont comp feed either, shes probably going through a growth spurt and your milk supply will take a couple of days to increase, just make sure your drinking heaps of water as this is more important to milk production than food is, hang in there, also your boobs will be making all she needs and there is usually a decrease (or what seems to be a decrease) as your boobs adjust, dont forget that she is probably also feeding better so is draining them properly :)

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by JennyB0125, Feb 12, 2013
Do you have access to see a lactation consultant?? If so I would do that asap, I would keep pumping & feeding and maybe supplement with formula if needed, but keep her latching.  If there is no lC to talk to ask to be seen by healthy & home. :) Good luck mama!

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by retta483, Feb 12, 2013
you could try mothers milk tea . & make sure you are getting enough fluids that always helped me :) GL  

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by KTowne, Feb 12, 2013
I'm not supplementing, I read online to completely drain both breasts with a pump and pump 2-5 minutes after the last drop, to make them fill back up quicker and I did that, it seems like they're filling back up. I'm going to be calling a la leche consultant tomorrow to talk to her about it, definitely need to up my fluid intake though because I'm definitely not drinking what I should be. Hopefully it levels out, I really do not want to formula feed her at all!

Retta what is mothers milk tea? Is it a recipe or something I can buy in the store? I'm willing to try anything!

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by stacey10, Feb 12, 2013
You can get mothers milk tea on-line and some health food shops stock it, have a huge glass of water each time you sit down to feed as well :)

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by KTowne, Feb 12, 2013
I'll have to check around and see if I can find it in town, if not I'll order it, I'm drinking maybe 2-3 bottles of water a day, so I definitely need to increase my water intake and hopefully that helps. Have you used mothers milk tea? Does it work? And are there any side effects for me or the baby?

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by stacey10, Feb 12, 2013
Also your milk supply is lower in th late afernoon/early evening and thats why alot of babies are fussy at that time, having a good breakfast and a short rest/nap in the afternoon if you can will help abit with that as well :)

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by stacey10, Feb 12, 2013
no side effects its made to help increase suppLactation Cookies Recipe
•1 cup butter or margarine
•1 & 1/2 cups brown sugar
•4 tablespoons water
•2 tablespoons flaxseed meal (can be found at any local health food store)
•2 large eggs
•1 teaspoon vanilla
•2 cups flour
•1 teaspoon baking soda
•1 teaspoon salt
•3 cups oats, thick cut if you can get them
•1 cup or more chocolate chips/sultanas/almonds/macadamia nuts (whatever takes your fancy)
•2-4 tablespoons of brewers yeast (be generous)
IMPORTANT! Do not substitute the brewers yeast… that’s the ingredient which makes them work.

If you don’t notice much of an increase the first time or if you need to increase your supply even more, add more brewers yeast.

Variation Ideas
Our members have made variations to this recipe by using these delicious combinations:

•Coconut and banana
•Choc chip and cranberry
•Dried apricot and white chocolate
•Apple cinnamon: 1 tsp cinnamon instead of vanilla, 1/2 cup chopped dried apple and 1/2 cup sultanas. BellyBelly member audux also added 2 tbsp stewed apple to experiment and found the cookies to turn out lovely and moist.
Method
Preparation time is around 15 minutes.
Preheat the oven to 180C.

1) Mix together 2 tablespoons of flaxseed meal and water, set aside for 3-5 minutes.

2) Cream (beat well) margarine and sugar. Add eggs one at a time, mix well.

3) Stir flaxseed mixture and add with vanilla to the margarine mix. Beat until blended.

4) Sift together dry ingredients, except oats and chips.

5) Add to margarine mixture. Stir in oats then chips.

6) Scoop or drop onto baking sheet, preferably lined with parchment. Because the dough is a little crumbly, it might be easier if you use a scoop.

Bake for 8-12 minutes, depending on size of cookies. Makes approximately 6 dozen cookies.

Where to Get Brewers Yeast
You can get brewers yeast from health food stores, in the home brew section of your local Big W or in health food isles of supermarkets. It’s a bit cheaper to buy brewers yeast from supermarkets than from health food stores or home-brew suppliers.

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by KTowne, Feb 12, 2013
Ohh thank you, I'll try the cookies tomorrow! The pumping to empty seemed to really help, I pumped for a few minutes after the last drop and it filled them back up pretty quickly, she just ate a good amount contently, hopefully it helps!

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by heather727, Feb 13, 2013
I had the same issue at around the same time with my daughter. It was a combination of her having a growth spurt and me not drinking enough water. I kept upping my liquid intake until I'm now drinking over a gallon a day.

I also drink Mother's Milk tea three times a day. I get mine at Target. You can also try Fenugreek (sp?). I took that with my son and it helped get me an extra ounce or two each time I pumped. I found that at a health food store.

The biggest thing is to keep nursing on demand and not to supplement, even with pumped breast milk. If you keep nursing her when she's hungry it will build up your supply naturally - as long as you're drinking enough!

Good luck and keep at it. It's so worth it for you and baby! :)

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by KTowne, Feb 13, 2013
I will definitely increase my water intake, I'm really not drinking enough. The fenugreek, is that anything that can effect me or her? I read online to take that and was thinking about trying it today. I woke up this morning with a ton of milk but she slept for almost 5 hours straight so that might be why, she's happily sleeping right now haha.

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by heather727, Feb 13, 2013
Fenugreek is an herbal supplement. Since it's a herb it's not regulated by the FDA, but women have been using it for milk supply for ages. The only side effect I had was that it made my pee smell like maple syrup - no kidding! Go ahead and Google it for peace of mind but it's use is for breastfeeding so there aren't any negative side effects for you or baby that I'm aware of.

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by KTowne, Feb 13, 2013
Okay thank you!! That's right in town so I can grab that and try it

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by FreshLove, Feb 13, 2013
Agree with pp, lots of water and feed on demand. Many babies are fussy in the evening hours, it's just part of being a newborn. As long as she is content most of the time than she's probably getting enough :)

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by LovemyKids86, Feb 14, 2013
I still take fenugreek and it does make a big difference. Some people smell like syrup and some don't, I don't have that side effect...if you do fenugreek also buy blessed thistle as they work together

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by KTowne, Feb 14, 2013
I think my supply is increasing on it's own now, thank god. She's acting way more content eating and I can hear her swallow good amounts when she's eating again, phew!! Hopefully that doesn't happen again haha, thank you!

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by nic374, Feb 14, 2013
pumping is a joke i think they get more than what u see, when i pumped i was like omg 1/2oz thats it, i quit it was awful experience

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by KTowne, Feb 14, 2013
She must get more than what I pump because she eats for a while and I can hear her sucking good amounts. I was just like are you kidding me? 1/2 an oz?! With my son I could pump 3-4ozs each breast! But he was mainly pumped and bottle fed, not to the breast so that may be why.

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