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Adderall for cocaine/meth addict???
My bestfriend is a recovering (2 1/2 months clean) cocaine and crystal meth addict (among other addictions as has a typical addictive personality) who has been seeing a phsychiatrist for a little over a month now. My PROBLEM is I am seriously QUESTIONING this doctors approach to treatment. He hasn't ever suggested any type of NA or AA and now he has presribed him Adderall (with a a diagnosis of Adult Adhd)!! WHY ON EARTH WOULD would you ever prescribe a highly addictive stimulant to someone who is addicted to stimulants?? Now perhaps the ADHD diagnosis is correct (hints the addictive personality,etc.) but EVERYTHING i have read on Adderall says "you should not take Adderall if you have a history of drug and/or alcohol abuse". Also, we have consulted another psychiatrist who agreed. It's not like he's been 2 years sober, it's only been near 2 months! A stuggling 2 months at that! I am so worried, please help.
I don't know if you're still out there Girl27, but I totally feel you. John95, thanks for your perspective, you rock on.
I also have a loved one who quit using meth, and who has been prescribed amphetamine salts for ADHD. The psychiatrist is associated with the clinic where he went to rehab, so the doctor is fully aware of his addiction. This particular doctor is one of an increasing trend of 'meds only' doctors, who leave the talk therapy to one of their associates (but if you can't afford the extra appointment, they'll still prescribe you the meds). Like woozy's husband, my loved one has been conserving the pills so he can take a bunch at one time, and he doesn't ingest them, he crushes them on a mirror and snorts them through a short straw to get a faster rush. Once a month like clockwork, he goes nuts and goes after everyone unlucky enough to be in his vicinity, like the worst case of PMS you've ever seen.
Prescribing amphetamine salts to a meth addict might be an attempt at anti-addictive treatment, but this doctor doesn't do much in the way of followup, so there's no oversight, which an addict with access to a controlled substance desperately needs. There's also a chicken-and-the-egg question as to whether a recovering addict can benefit from a drug designed for people who were born with damaged receptors, that the addicts have damaged through use of dangerous substances similar to the drug itself. I am concerned for my loved one, and I don't blame you, Girl27, for being concerned for yours.
I also have a loved one who quit using meth, and who has been prescribed amphetamine salts for ADHD. The psychiatrist is associated with the clinic where he went to rehab, so the doctor is fully aware of his addiction. This particular doctor is one of an increasing trend of 'meds only' doctors, who leave the talk therapy to one of their associates (but if you can't afford the extra appointment, they'll still prescribe you the meds). Like woozy's husband, my loved one has been conserving the pills so he can take a bunch at one time, and he doesn't ingest them, he crushes them on a mirror and snorts them through a short straw to get a faster rush. Once a month like clockwork, he goes nuts and goes after everyone unlucky enough to be in his vicinity, like the worst case of PMS you've ever seen.
Prescribing amphetamine salts to a meth addict might be an attempt at anti-addictive treatment, but this doctor doesn't do much in the way of followup, so there's no oversight, which an addict with access to a controlled substance desperately needs. There's also a chicken-and-the-egg question as to whether a recovering addict can benefit from a drug designed for people who were born with damaged receptors, that the addicts have damaged through use of dangerous substances similar to the drug itself. I am concerned for my loved one, and I don't blame you, Girl27, for being concerned for yours.
Girl27,
I don't know if this will even get posted. Sites usually say, "what is your mothers maiden name?, or what are these letters?, and I blow it off. I hope this doesn't. I would like to say this. I am an addict...big time. I have been addicted to everything you can be addicted to. I am 47, married with 3 children. I don't know how. I have taken, smoked, snorted or shot anything that can be. Hell I shot Jack Daniels one time because there wasn't anything else. It's a ritual I get addicted to. It's like laying out Coke is as fun as doing it. Anyone that has been there will understand that. OK, enough.
I can get any Dr. to give me anything, Oxy 80, Fenatyl, ADDERALL,name it. I'm a clean looking addict. lol I tried suicide again for about the 8th time 2 years ago. I have been sober 19 months, "Except", for the last 4 months of Adderall use. My wife finally asked me what was up. I told her about the Adderall, I don't lie to my wife. 4 days ago I gave her the bottle, 80 of them, I'm dying. Don't do Adderall. ADDERALL!, in case the addict saw a typo. They're bad.
I am watching a friend slowly go insane on Adderall. Man I care about her. If an addict doesn't want to be told, they won't listen. If I didn't type with one finger, I would type until I cried too hard to see. Don't do it. It is another pharmaceutical devil. (That's a long name). If you want to stay sane listen to me. It's Meth or Coke in a pill. You know that. Stop for a couple days. Fun huh? lol Remember Black Beauties?, Lemmon Stats?, same thing. Please don't man,I promise you they will make your insane, slow, they're great at first, just like Meth, Heroin, Coke any of the silent killers. I have ADD, Manic Depression, Trguojjk, lol. I can answer any questionnaire to suite my purpose. I can even lie to myself. Can any other addicts relate? Probably not, right. lol Love yourself man Hell, I'll give you my name, phone number and address if you want. If anyone is mad at me because you wish I wouldn't have told people that care about you the truth, I don't blame you, you might have to stop. lol Go ask the mirror. That is your true answer. "To Thine Own Self Be True". I wish my lol were truly funny. I play no games.
XO
I don't know if this will even get posted. Sites usually say, "what is your mothers maiden name?, or what are these letters?, and I blow it off. I hope this doesn't. I would like to say this. I am an addict...big time. I have been addicted to everything you can be addicted to. I am 47, married with 3 children. I don't know how. I have taken, smoked, snorted or shot anything that can be. Hell I shot Jack Daniels one time because there wasn't anything else. It's a ritual I get addicted to. It's like laying out Coke is as fun as doing it. Anyone that has been there will understand that. OK, enough.
I can get any Dr. to give me anything, Oxy 80, Fenatyl, ADDERALL,name it. I'm a clean looking addict. lol I tried suicide again for about the 8th time 2 years ago. I have been sober 19 months, "Except", for the last 4 months of Adderall use. My wife finally asked me what was up. I told her about the Adderall, I don't lie to my wife. 4 days ago I gave her the bottle, 80 of them, I'm dying. Don't do Adderall. ADDERALL!, in case the addict saw a typo. They're bad.
I am watching a friend slowly go insane on Adderall. Man I care about her. If an addict doesn't want to be told, they won't listen. If I didn't type with one finger, I would type until I cried too hard to see. Don't do it. It is another pharmaceutical devil. (That's a long name). If you want to stay sane listen to me. It's Meth or Coke in a pill. You know that. Stop for a couple days. Fun huh? lol Remember Black Beauties?, Lemmon Stats?, same thing. Please don't man,I promise you they will make your insane, slow, they're great at first, just like Meth, Heroin, Coke any of the silent killers. I have ADD, Manic Depression, Trguojjk, lol. I can answer any questionnaire to suite my purpose. I can even lie to myself. Can any other addicts relate? Probably not, right. lol Love yourself man Hell, I'll give you my name, phone number and address if you want. If anyone is mad at me because you wish I wouldn't have told people that care about you the truth, I don't blame you, you might have to stop. lol Go ask the mirror. That is your true answer. "To Thine Own Self Be True". I wish my lol were truly funny. I play no games.
XO
You are correct. Adderall is speed (but with a fancy name), so why you would treat someone with an addition to speed by giving him speed sounds nuts to me. Well, it doesn't just sound nuts - it is nuts.
I was prescribed adderrall 10 years ago and have been taking 2 to 3 of 10 mgs each a day... so on average, I take 25 mgs per day. Unlike most people prescribed for it, I take it b/c I have narcolepsy. I'm not the typical ADD or ADHD case...anyway, as an experement, I smoked meth on occasion for a 4 month period (Oct 09 till the beginning Jan 09)....on and off, meaning, I would everyday for about a week, then come off of it for about 1.5 or 2 weeks, and then repeat....as a narcoleptic, I wanted to compare it to Adderrall....obvioulsly, I did not need the Adderrall while the times I smoked meth....I think the reason why I never got addicted to meth is b/c I've been on Adderrall for 10 yrs and my body is used to the speed....I never once had withdrawal symptoms, which I was afraid would happen, but glad I didn't ....anyway, I do not encourage meth and I'll never do it again...as I said, it was an experiment....I'll never do it again mainly b/c it's not pharmaceutical grade and made with a bunch of junk...no one needs that in their body....personally, the amount of time I did it, I don't think I'll have long term body image effects....so a part of me can kind of see why the Doctor's thinking in doing that (refer to first post)...I'll continue using adderrall till, if/when they ever come up with a cure for narcolepsy.
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And what is so amazing is that if you have ADHD, there is no high. Weird how the body is wired.
I had a horrible experience with adderall. I have used coke for at least 15 years on and off and to me, nothing in the world was worse than an adderall come down.
I got a bottle of it by accident. I was given it as a trade and had no idea what it was or how it would make me feel. Im used to pills so I popped 3 at once and I was instantly in love. After 2 hours or so I felt that come down that only people who have been through THAT can understand. It was bad but not unbearable. I started with 25 and in 10 hours went from swollowing to snorting. I used the entire 25 pills that night because when you feel that withdrawal and you have more.. you just do all of it. I'm very lucky i'm not dead.
Adderall was the worse coke comedown times 50! It lasted 14 friggen hours! It was constant pulling and mental agony for the first 8 hours.. then the rest of the time was in waves. never thought i'd be happy to have those waves but I was. I hallucinated like mad also.. saw shadow people, heard voices and footsteps... that was holy hell and I've learned my lesson well. Never will I touch those thing again. I have no idea what's in those pills but the euphoria like cocaine happened, and that horrid withdrawal followed. Im done. Never again.
I got a bottle of it by accident. I was given it as a trade and had no idea what it was or how it would make me feel. Im used to pills so I popped 3 at once and I was instantly in love. After 2 hours or so I felt that come down that only people who have been through THAT can understand. It was bad but not unbearable. I started with 25 and in 10 hours went from swollowing to snorting. I used the entire 25 pills that night because when you feel that withdrawal and you have more.. you just do all of it. I'm very lucky i'm not dead.
Adderall was the worse coke comedown times 50! It lasted 14 friggen hours! It was constant pulling and mental agony for the first 8 hours.. then the rest of the time was in waves. never thought i'd be happy to have those waves but I was. I hallucinated like mad also.. saw shadow people, heard voices and footsteps... that was holy hell and I've learned my lesson well. Never will I touch those thing again. I have no idea what's in those pills but the euphoria like cocaine happened, and that horrid withdrawal followed. Im done. Never again.
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