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I hear everyone talk about somas...now I know that they're a muscle relaxer but do they get you high? I'm pretty sure that I heard people on the forum say that they were addicted to them, am I right? Are they narcotic?
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Maybe at the stage you are in you are a little sensitive.  I think green eyes got the point and I don't think we need to debate this any further.  Let's just drop it ok?
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"I hear everyone talk about somas" This was the beginning of the original post. Does it sound like 1 person to you?
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I'm really sorry, I never meant to start a *debate* about the somas. I asked a question in the other addiction forum regarding pills and how much they cost in regards to where I live. That post was deleted because it was found to be an improper topic in a place where people are trying to get over their addictions and I can understand why it was taken down.

I have been asking these questions because I want to understand addiction and the addict's mind better....because I am an addict, I like to learn and understand the "why's and how's" and other things involved. I have always felt that if you want to learn about human nature then you should talk to people and hear their stories ALONG with documentation.

I totally agree that they're many different views and opinions regarding any topic and I believe that we all need to make "informed" decisions regarding our health and well being. I for one will always seek different opinions and documentations and make my decision from that point on. So Hank, I thank you for those web sites because whether we all agree on a topic or not, knowledge is power. E  :)

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I doubt someone would be ignorant enough to take what one person say's on a forum as law.  No matter if they have a year under their belt or not.  I try to help the best I can but I know each person is different and they know it too.  I was just relaying the info I had - nothing more.
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Hi
My only point through this whole question was what works for me may or may not work for you. That even if I didn't have seizures you may? So just because a labile say's one thing doesn't mean that something else bad can't happen. When we say something as if it were written in stone, we don't know how many people are reading this (that don't post) and may go off and try something that we have made sound like God's gift to the world?
  Especially those who are further along need to be more careful about what they say because it is only natural to set them up on a pedestal like they have the answer to all of the problems! New one's come here looking for answers?  Before some one recommends a drug they should recommend a visit to a good doctor. If we don't then we are not only responsible for our lives but there's also! So it might be advisable to read the paragraph just below the question asked every time we try to answer such a difficult problem?
Hank
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Students buy coricidin to make speed from too.  There are warning labels on any medication of what "could happen".    

We know we are responsible for our own lives.  Thats why we are here taking responsibility by getting off the drugs.  

Keep in mind that some if not most of us here got here because of legit pain.  There will be times when we really need help with managing our pain.  
There is no "safe" drug.  Hell, the tylenol in our vicodin is hurting our liver more than the narcotic.
As a matter of fact, there is very little safe food left in our supermarkets.  
We could run with this couldn't we.
We are trying to get off opiates and if someone came in here "addicted" to soma we would know better than to suggest that they go take a soma for muscle aches.  
tzt
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Hi
Since there seems to be some difference of opinion I thought I would look a little closer. In just under 10 minutes I found these two links and this story which I think might concern us all.

http://www.ehow.com/how_2048534_treat-soma-addiction.html
http://www.egetgoing.com/drug_rehab/soma.asp


Students Use Muscle Relaxant to Get High

A growing number of teens are misusing the prescription muscle relaxant Soma to get high, CBS News reported June 2.

"Some students are crushing it up and snorting it," said Mesa Police Sgt. Sean Kelly in Arizona. "They're also mixing it with alcohol. "

In Mesa recently, 29 students were suspended for possessing the drug. A 16-year-old girl was arrested for smuggling 3,000 Soma pills across the border from Mexico and distributing them at five schools.

"They're really cheap, especially down in Mexico, and everybody's got them," said one student.

Mike Salazar, a drug counselor in Arizona, said Soma is part of a national trend toward mixing prescription and over-the-counter drugs to get high. "If [youths] have access to the medicine cabinet, that's what they're going to mix together," Salazar said.

Please these are for informational purposes only but each of us is responsible for our own lives!
Hank
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Look I am wayyyyy too tired - I don't want to fight with anyone here and I am sure you feel the same.  You are what a week clean?  That is hard enough on it's own.  Neither one of us needs this frustration - so let's just let everyone make their own decisions.  I did not mean to upset you or anything else for that matter.
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By the way I have worked 6 days a week 12 to14 hr a day for most of my life and I have never been to a pain management Doctor!
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I only hope they make a informed decision with all the facts they can get! If you would have read my first answer to you You would have seen this: Hi
The problem was I read the search wrong! I was in a hurry also! Thank you for you patients and understanding!
Hank
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Ok - they should not listen to a doc, you or me?  Who should they listen to?  And a pm is a pain management doctor - for as long as you say you have been around - you should know that.  I am sure everyone has enough smarts here to take all things into consideration - their medical history, etc.  Also, the website that the info is coming from - you said it is by the company itself (that produces Soma) and it is not.  I was only trying to make that clear.  My only intention was to help people reading the info. - not start some childish debate with you.  Frankly, I am way too tired and don't have the time.
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!. Immature is like a child believing there is a Santa Clause just because there parents said so! Or being able to say"I did have a pm doc tell me they are non-addictive" I don't know what a pm doc is by the way?
2. I confused the point? Because it was only for some additional information since I don't think our judgement may be exactly the best?
3. Do you always have to be right?  At best I said in one instance "I feel" which is not to say I am right? But you did say" I just wanted to set the record straight" Which is a statement of being right!
4. Instead of listening to a Doc they should listen to you.  No they should not ever listen to me. I can only tell them of my experiences but I would be hard pressed to say to listen to 1 Doctor's opinion?
5. despite you quoting it wrong in the first place?  I copy and pasted it so I don't know about that?
6. I hope you take this as it was intended.  I did, I do, and I will!!!!
7. the last thing someone getting clean needs is undue stress. You are right here as that is why I posted the link so they can get informed and not have any more stress! Not all information is right for all people we react different to different things! Not every one W/D'S the same way? Just look at the drug's that have been approved then taken off the shelf because they were killing people. These were approved by many Doctor's before they got to market and they were wrong! I am old enough to remember cigarette commercials saying they were healthy for you. A little before my time DDT was the greatest thing ever invented, we are still paying for it today. The list goes on and on!  I am not right I am just  suspicious when something other that the ten commandments is written in stone!
Hank
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Immature?  I confused the point? (How exactly should I take these comments?)

Do you always have to be right?  I still stand by what I said.  Despite that you have a right to state your opinion.  

And instead of listening to a Doc they should listen to you - despite you quoting it wrong in the first place?

I hope you take this as it was intended.
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Hi
The problem was I read the search wrong! I was in a hurry also! That being said  I have quit smoking C/T. For me quiting smoking was by far harder than what I am going through now? I am now on day 11 from Vicodin ES 6 a day. This is the third time in a little over 30 years that I have had to quit Vicodin C/T. The post I left was for information only! I know as well as everyone else that what I went through is different than what other's have gone through! So as a individual I would not want to say because something that worked for me it is going to work for you? The statements on the site were possible side effects not guaranteed!
I feel that when someone is looking for a pill they are trying to find something to replace the pill and feeling they got from the old pills they took without the consequences and there is no such animal!!!!! The company generic or not said "This medication may be habit-forming and should be used only by the person it was prescribed for"  It also said "
What are the possible side effects of Soma?
Get emergency medical help if you have any of these signs of an allergic reaction: hives; difficulty breathing; swelling of your face, lips, tongue, or throat. Stop using Soma and call your doctor at once if you have any of these serious side effects:
paralysis (loss of feeling);

extreme weakness or lack of coordination;

feeling light-headed, fainting;

fast heartbeat;

seizure (convulsions);

vision loss; or

agitation, confusion.

Now,I don't know about you but these are something's I would want to know? Also it seems a little immature to say "I did have a pm doc tell me they are non-addictive" When we all have had Doctors tell  us things that were not exactly true? Remember the drug companies reward these Doctor's all kind of trips another thing's to convince them to push there brand of drug and I do mean push!!! Otherwise there  would not be so many legal addict's and there would not be all of these drugs on the streets. So I don't know what record you set straight? If anything you confused the point which was information only! Being dogmatic about any of these issues can only confuse those who are trying for the first time or have failed many times and feel hopeless!  I hope you take this as it was intended as help to anyone who cares to read it!
Hank63
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The only thing that is an issue with me (and it is different for everyone) is the vicodin/soma combo.  There is something about mixing them that is very common.  It is actually known as the "Vegas Cocktail" among many other things. It is a common mix with users so it has always given me that iffy feeling.  But like I said, that's just ME. Personally I've never had a problem with muscle relaxers, I've had Flexeril, Skelaxin, etc. in my cabinet for months.  The only reason I hesitate with the Soma is because I purposely got a prescription for it along with my vicodin JUST for the combination that I had heard about.  And I'm not trying to give anyone any ideas or teach anyone anything bad (please kids - don't try this at home).  Just giving you my own personal reason.

For each and every one of us it's different.  I have Ativan sitting around that I've had for a couple of weeks and have only touched a couple.  No desire to abuse whatsoever.  Others are on here for Ativan addiction.  But they may be able to take or leave a pain killer.  If something works for you and isn't in conflict with your own addiction(s) I say do what helps you.  

We all know our poisons and what we can handle.  That's all that matters, regardless of what anyone else says.
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I am pretty positive that website was not by the drug company that makes Soma.  It seemed like a generic site at best.  I have my husband's prescription pamphlet and it says nothing about seizures and I did have a pm doc tell me they are non-addictive.  I have quit Soma many times as well and NOT ONCE did I have withdrawal's like hydro's or benzo's.  I just wanted to set the record straight - the last thing someone getting clean needs is undue stress.  
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Hi everyone thanks for answering...I was curious because I read that people would take the somas with vicodin or oxys and that they felt addicted to them.

Mr. Hank...I looked up the website and to me it almost sounds like a benzo withdrawl. They said that you could have seizures if you abruptly stop taking this med. Scary stuff.

I think it's a sin the way the drug companies keep saying that their product is non addictive, these poor people end up with huge problems because of their lies.

You guys all have a good night...my show is coming on and then it's off to bed for me. Sweet dreams.
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Hi
You all should read this as it is the compaby itself!!

http://www.drugs.com/soma.html
Hank
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They are not addicting like hydros - if you stop them c/t - you will have a day or two of mild w/d's...NOTHING like hydro's.  They were a piece of cake compared to the other junk.  The drug companies say they are not addicting.  There is a pretty intense feeling if you take more then prescribed but your mind does not really crave them if you stop - at least not for very long.  They are not opiates.  If you are having horrible pain and have to take them or if you take more then prescribed please don't drive.  I was taking so many sometimes I would pass out.  Not good.

luv,

shel
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I am not sure if it is considered a narcotic..But i do know it is a muscles relaxtant and very addicting...i use to call them the SOMA COMA...When i had a pinched nerve they gave them to me and they always made me sick..So with my addicting personality i guess that is a good thing...
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I don't recall if we have had anyone addicted to them or not.  They are muscle relaxers and I have taken them for years for back pain.  I take as directed but usually even less than prescribed.   I don't know if they were taken in excess if they would produce a high or not.,I would imagine that they would make a person fall asleep before they would produce a high but i'm not sure.  When I have been pain free or had less pain I have stopped taking them without any feelings of withdrawal.
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