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1476003 tn?1331227992

3rd day off oxy and feel like hell

Anybody have a good way to fall asleep whil detoxing from oxy. I m on day 3 and havnt slept yet any ideas
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Good morning Nick,

I'm glad you got a little sleep.  It makes a world of difference.  As soon as the sleep starts to come back, the other stuff gets better quickly.

Be careful taking the l-tyrosine in the afternoon or evening because it can really make you jittery and make sleep even tougher.  I could only take it in the morning but it did get me going.

I hope you have immodium for the runs.  Take lots of it if need be, it really helps.

It sounds like you are turning the corner on this and that is really cool to hear.  Very happy for you.

Hang in there it will keep getting better and great job so far!!!

bob
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1478126 tn?1291069375
sorry it's been rough. as far as smoking goes, you're looking for something to fill that void now. i wouldn't encourage it, but if it keeps your mind off the pills, and you've had no problem quitting before i say go for it.

what you said about seeing yourself four months down the road is so true. i was thinking about that today. about how easy it would be for me to call my doctor and get a script. then i thought about it for a minute and realized that i'd just be doing this all over again. screw it. i'm out. i'm so exhausted from always wondering where the pills are gonna come from, counting them, constantly running out....i can't do it.

good news on the counselor. you've made it, what, 6-7 days now? just keep that aftercare thing going. NA can be a little strange at first, but remember your in a room with people that KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH. there's nowhere else (besides forums like this) you can find that.

also, how is the l-tyrosine working for you? i heard that it can give you the coffee jitters. i avoid all stimulants because of anxiety issues. i was wondering if it simply just gives you a boost of energy to fight of the lethargy.

anyways, glad you've stuck it through....and you're right tomorrow is a new day.
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1476003 tn?1331227992
Well today has been a weird day.I woke up and felet like I never took a pill in my life...Then arround 1 pm I got a huge craving...so bad it hurt...It lasted a whole hour and a half.....HELL Think I might start smoking again to take the ege off Ive quit smoking many times no prob so...here I am looking for a way out. I dont miss the oxys at all hell I could sleep with them under my pillow and not care Cause I picture myself 4 months from now in the same situation...thats my motivation, u know. Its the emotionnal side thats killing me...I dont want to be alone, my wife goes back to work on friday and i dont know wut im gonna do...


AAAHHH Stupid stupid stupid me.............................Why did I let myself get this far. I train in mixed martial arts and my level of discipline is unbeleivable...Another thing I get kicked out of fight card next month for testing pos for opioids...lol its only an amateur thing but will follow me everywhere now IM MARKED lol

Figure this out I can beat the crap out of most of my opponents but have a tough time fighting this addiction and it doesnt hit back....

Im on a low today and all I can think about is havin a smoke...lol weird huh.

Went to councelling and my councillor was expecting to admit me to a rehab bout tought I was doing awsome.

I take the L-Tyrosine and makes me feel good in the am but I dont want to take it in the pm afrais it will interfear with my 15 mins sleep that night..lol

I bought some Melatonine a natural sleep thing-a-ma-gig HOPE IT WORKS

Enrolled in a na meeting tomorrow at 7 cant wait Its a time consumer...

Prob worst day so far but tomorrows another day...
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1478126 tn?1291069375
nick, how are you today? hope you are continuing to feel better. and i hope that sleep comes back soon.
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1230655 tn?1344257799
At my inpatient facility they also gave us vistiril. A couple of people were on the seriquil too, but it made them loopy. But I quit taking it to break the cycle of taking a pill to feel better.
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Hey Nick

Glad to see you doing a little better.  Don't worry, Vicki's probably already talking!!!

I hope you get some well deserved sleep.

bob
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What worked for me was a 5mg of melatonin from the health food store. Also, if you can get some of the "soothing sounds" oceans, campfires, harps, stuff you hear at the spa....it is a backround noise that is soothing, so it helped me from my mind going nuts. I could focus on something else....something beautiful. Also, if you are DESPERATE you may want to try benadryl (i got a prescription from my doc to help with the anxiety it is called Vistril, non narco). The meds I took is an antihistimine similar to benadryl but stronger. Obviously, I am not a doc....so taking on OTC med is a use at your own risk situation.

One minute at a time buddy. Keep that mind a body busy.
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Nick~   If you keep taking those LAVENDER baths we're gonna start talking about you!!!

Good luck,seriously.  It gets waaay better than this BS that you're going through right now.

And...humor is everything!!
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At least you still have your sense of humor.  That will go further than you might think!!!!!!  Let us know tomorrow how your night went!
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1476003 tn?1331227992
I know
Right now I could sleep for a week Im so tired so Im gonna take a lavender bath a chlonidine and try to sleep

Wish me luck

" I say Live while youre alive, cause theres plenty of time to sleep when youre dead" --Nick lol
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AGREE 100% with Vicki here.  You can't keep searching for "something" to help.  That is a bad habit that needs to be broken.  I got some Alteril(natural stuff) today, and I'm anxious to see if it works.  If it does, I'll let you know.  Seroquel never helped me sleep much.  It just made me feel weird and super strange the next day!  Think about it ok?  Don't keep dumping stuff in.  You COULD make it worse.....

: )  
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We're just in that habit of reaching for a pill. As you know,part of detoxing is breaking from that habit.

Seroquel is an antipsychotic. It's used to treat hallucinations,usually from schizophrenia.
Now,I'm sure you're feeling nutty right about now but don't take this. The object is to "rest" your brain so it can heal. Don't dump more chemicals into yourself.

The sleep will return. So will the energy.  You need to accept it,Nick. Just be okay with it.  Get the "Super Snooze Melatonin".  It will work far better than Seroquel!

Good luck with this and hang tough!
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1476003 tn?1331227992
ahh man i might sleep tonight..My wife found 2 25 mg seroquel that was prescribed last time i was in rehab...is this a good idea lol

gimme the scoop

i say if i can sleep better I could be more energised to detox.....no clue
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Nick..One thing that helps is aftercare. Give it some thought. The group dynamic is very powerful! So,you may want to consider NA/AA...

The withdrawal feelings/cravings seem to come and go at first. Usually at a particular time each day. Be on guard for that and always have something to do! You also need to know your triggers! That way,you can head them off.  Ask Bob about his dish soap trigger!  LOL

Stay strong!
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1476003 tn?1331227992
OOOhhh Man Bob

Just awhile ago I was conquering the world and now the wd are almost gone but here comes the withdrawls....2 different things. I have an uncle who is an alcoholic and shakes all the time and thats how I feel right now. Ive cried about 20 times since noon. Ive read 1000 storie on this site and man Im lucky I didnt let get that fgar... 1000mg of oxy a day WOW how could anyone detox cold turkey Must be hell...So if they did well good ol Nickaroo here can do it.

The bad thing about detoxing this time of year makes it hard to exercise Im always to cold to go out its like 3 degrees here.

Ive been thinking on starting to smoke again and work on quiting later on...alot of ppl tell me that the nicotine can produce endorphins that could calm me a bit...Get an Oxy cravin= have a smoke.... Id sooner smoke till i die than take those pills for the rest of my life. Alot on my mind right now day 7 is the craps cause of the w/d.

The cramping is gone the diarreah is gone now its just  the temptetions...Not much to do here.

I love poker but I tried last night and lost like 80$ and tyhats a first...lol Im a really good poker player. Top in the region. See the pills made me a good player or NOT....Maybe I can focus on that....

I know Im looking for a crutch right now but Im goin NUKIN FUTS..lol

I wish there was a place u could go to sleep for 2 weeks and get it over with...
Ive looked into Rapid detox the other day and that just takes u to day 7 of this process. Doesnt matter what route u take the temptetion will always be there....

Im just blabbin away here lookin for a solution/a plan/

Last time I went to rehab They let me go after 9 days or so cause they said Id do fine on my own I felt great. This time arround its different, its the emotionnal side thats killing me.

You know what I dont even miss the pills at all....I seek the comfort that 1 pills would give me, but I wont give in I promisse and my wife will vouch for that. I talked to my neibourghs awhile ago and they said the only way they would gimmy a pill is if I killed them...There on a 8x 80mg addiction also and wish they had the courage I have...
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Hey Nick,

I'm glad you're having a good day.  When you're not sleeping much sometimes those naps really help out.

I'm glad you talked to someone at NA.  I'm sure they're quite hesitant to give you advice against a doctor's orders but you should check out a meeting.  It takes a little nerve to get to that first one but I love going to them now.  Addict socials!!!!  ha ha

You CAN take on the world but it's tough doing it on pills.  You're doing the right things, the world conquering can wait a few days.  :)

Really happy to hear you're having a good one!!!!

bob
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1476003 tn?1331227992
Thanks so much gang  Just fell assleep for 35 mins strange cause I really want to save that sleepiness for tonight but tonight I will deal with when tonight comes....It seems like when u think about no sleep all day it drains u right out. The human body can be weird sometimes and when it needs sleep it will let u know. I look at the pills sometimes and its just a reminder of how miserable my life was on them and seems to be my motivation but they are locked now........ My wife is going to see her dr Wednesday to change her meds, she is scared also.....

I remember when I quit smoking cold turkey and everytime she would smoke it reminded me of all the bad things that come from smoking and thats what kept me stong....I even quit drinking because everytime I drank I smoked  But eventually quit drinking because of fear that the oxy boose mix was going to kill me....


Oh yeah I forgot to mention this is my 2nd time quitting and I started beacause of kidney stones.


So I called the NA hotline and they told me that flushing the vallium was a bad idea simply because for the first 7-10 day it will create a state of rest in my mind and my body will need that off time as long as i taper down !!!!YEAH right if tapering was easy I wouldnt be here ..lol Oh well...

Im still on the clonidine and will taper from it well.

The L-Tyrosine is great, For many things including mental awareness but I know Bob I wont take it in the PM.


I feel like I can take over the world today but Im a long way from that BRAIN>>>>

I apreciate all the comment and congrats to u folks for overcoming thid desease
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Nick~  It's okay to take Immodium. The opiate component does not cross the blood/brain barrier.  You might need it!!

You really are doing great here. We ALL need support during this process. Try to be pleasant with your family. Fight that crankiness. Eat some chocolate,or my personal favorite,ICE CREAM!!
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417564 tn?1287982827
It certainly would add another degree of difficulty for me of I knew there were OC's in the house.  I think it would for many of us here...so good job with that Nick, just be careful.  Addiction is strange - just one minute seemingly out of the blue the cravings are there.
This forum is a great place and I have come to depend heavily on those here...
You are doing great and that is awesome that you have the support of your family because that makes a world of difference.
Best of luck to you and stay strong.
Peace
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I love this!  Bob, you're awesome....period!  Nick, you're doing so good.  It may not feel like it, but it's true.  You have to tell the wife to lock the pills up.  They will call your name constantly.  Hell, I wish I knew your wife right now!!!!!!  Joking.....But seriously, I could never live in the house with it if I knew about it.  I would make up every excuse on the planet to get hubby to give me one.  I'm lucky he hates pills! : )  So, you're stronger than me to even be sitting in the same house with it.....honestly!
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Your wife is going to need to keep those pills hidden from you Nick.  There WILL come a day when they will start talking to you.  The fact you flushed that 80 is a huge step and took a lot of guts to do.  It's like saying good-bye to friend right???  Great job on that.

If you can't move, you're going to have to avoid those neighbours like the plague, seriously.

I'm not doing anything but offering a little encouragement, you're doing all the work Nick.  Sometimes it helps to know we aren't losing our minds by knowing others have had the exact same issues, that we are not alone in this.

I relapsed after taking tylenol #1's once.  They drove me back to oxys, again you are wise to dump them.  Those 2 you took won't affect your wd, it is a very small amount of codeine in them.

You're on the right path, you seem to know where the pitfalls are so be careful.  You're doing great really you are!!!!

bob
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1476003 tn?1331227992
Yup good ol Quebec where the good comes cheap or used too..lol

I have an appointement with a councilor on monday wich is tomorrow.WOW already...
I remembered I had an 80mg hiddin somewhere and about 30 mins was faced with this dileme....U KNOW I tought of just a little nib or peice. I woke my wife up and we talked and I flushed it. I have to understand that they are everywhere 2 of my neighbors make 100 000$ a year by selling them and am not ready to move away.
My wife takes 2x 20 mg oxy a day with 120 Seupredols a month and I have not touched one.

You know what I miss Bob and I dont want to switch from 1 addiction to another but man do I ever miss going fishing and havin a cold one. I wouldnt drink in fear of overdosing or wuthever. Not the best motivation but when I look at her bottle I picture a good time with friends Oxy free.......

Bob I just want u to know that u are the one thats keeping me on track...One complete stranger via internet is changing my life  MY life amd MY FAMILLIES life...

One thing I want to let eveyone know is  DO NOT smoke POT while detoxing Pot is not a calmant like everybody thinks drug and acts as a stimulant my 1st and 2nd day I was smoking and man did it make it worst. Imagine this...Thinking u are dying and then getting an anxiety attack.................lol

Oh yeah wut a bummer, I took 2 tyl for leg pain but where tyl 1 with a bit of codein...I flushed that bottle too u think it will matter in my detox process...I dont think so caus Loperamide wich is the main ingredient in Immodium is a opiate cousin so I was to to stay awa from it   anywhoo

Thanks Bob and the more I hear from u the better my day is  

Nick
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Hi again,

I'm glad your family seems somewhat understanding of what you're going through.  I remember back to my first detox which was pretty bad and I was on day two I think.  I completely lost it on a stranger.  That is so out of character for me. I called him every name in the book.  I should have been wearing a straight jacket that day I think.  He was much bigger than me but I didn't care.  He must have realized that I was crazy because he got the heII away from me. ha ha  He DID deserve it though!!!  Anyway, I just tell you that because it is sooooo normal this early into things to have swinging emotions.

When you're in a calmer or more loving mood, tell the wife and family you appreciate them and that their support means everything to you right now.  Explain to them that it's very normal to be "on edge" right now.

So today is day 5 for you?  You really should be starting to turn the corner on the physical stuff.  What's next???  Get some fresh air, get out with the kids.  Force yourself to do something.  

Have you thought about NA or anything like that??  A counselor??? Those things can make a world of difference on how you feel and on your chances for long-term success.

So you are in Quebec???  It's nice to know I'm not the only addict in Canada!!!  :)

Have a good one Nick, you're doing awesome, it WILL get better,

bob
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1476003 tn?1331227992
Hey Bob
Thanx for being there for me I need constant feedback..lol reassurance if u may. Right now I am always angry with my wife and kids but they take it with a grain of salt my brain wants to PARTY but my body says SIT THE F*&^ Down lol weird. Been eating a bit more oranges for some reason. What comes next Bob

Tx Nickz
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