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A Gift for the MH Family
Hey everyone, I'm a type A person and an organizer (I think we all probably have some of that in common) and I wanted to find a way to do something in thanks to all of you. Without you I probably would not have detoxed because God knows I could not find help in my area anywhere...and I tried...lord knows I tried.
What I decided to do was to put together all the wonderful ideas and suggestions for withdrawal symptoms. We all wind up typing over and over and over the same things...so I wanted to make it easier for everyone. I hope you all find this beneficial. Post it in your journal...change it around to make it your own, post it daily in the forum if you want...whatever works best.
Thank you DominoSarah for all of your help....I'm sure a lot more could have been added to this but my focus was really on withdrawal relief. Thanks you everyone who told me these different remedies while I was detoxing or afterwards. I cannot take credit for any of these ideas......that was all of you!
Once again, thanks so much, I love and appreciate all of you. Here it goes...I hope you all like it and, like I said, feel free to make it your own, in your own words if you want. I'm going to keep mine posted in my journal so I can cut and paste over. I think Gnarly and Sarah should decide if this should be a permanent type post or not.
Have a wonderful weekend xoxo
Withdrawal Symptom Relief:
****PLEASE NOTE: Before using any of the vitamins, medications or supplements mentioned in this list please consult with your doctor. We are not doctors and do not know what medications you are taking, it is important that you make sure that there will not be any adverse effects to using even something that seems as benign as a multi-vitamin****
First, use the Search MedHelp and search for the Thomas Recipe.
Restless Leg Syndrome: Hylands Restless Leg Tablets (make sure it is the kind with Quinine in it)
or
Tonic Water (Schweppes is a good one) that also has quinine in it, sip on it until bedtime. Add something to it if you don't like the taste. I used sugar-free Crystal Light Tangerine flavor in mine.
Orthopedic socks, the tight ones for the lower legs
Ace bandages for the upper legs and arms, wrap tightly or use towels wrapped tightly
Before wrapping everything up rub some Ben Gay or Tiger Balm into the skin
or
Heating Pads
Achy Legs: So your legs aren't going a mile a minute but they are still achy and a little bit restless...use the ace bandages on them, have your dog lie on your legs or even your kitty cat stretching out...just something a bit heavy.
Big bag of Epsom Salts: A good 15 to 20 minute soak in a really hot bath with salts in it will relieve a lot of your symptoms like anxiety for a while in addition to helping get toxins out of your skin. Take as many per day as needed, definitely take one before you wrap up for RLS for the night.
Water, Lifewater with Electrolytes, Gatorade, anything to make sure you don't get dehydrated because that will make your symptoms worse. If you have a juicer fresh juice would be terrific as long as your tummy can handle it. Pedialyte can be made into popsicles...maybe not quite the same as the name brand but healthy and will feel good on your throat while giving you those great electrolytes! Because detoxing means you will be sweating out a lot of the toxins this means you will be sweating out all of your fluids...so drink a ton of liquids...at least double to triple what you normally do.
Protein shakes, bananas, toast, rice, applesauce, pudding snacks...whatever your tummy can handle. We never want to eat but the same thing goes here...if you don't eat a little bit your symptoms will be worse.
Sleep and Anxiety: Chamomile Tea, Melatonin, Sundown Super Melatonin (has Valerian, Passion Flower and other items good for sleep and anxiety). You can go the Valium route IF your doctor prescribes and you would only want to use it for maybe 7 days because you don't want to wind up addicted to benzo's.
Vitamins: Cal-Mag-Zinc 3in1, Good Multi-Vitamin, Super B Complex, Amino Acids like L-Lysine, B-12 injection or sublingual (this is for after the insomnia part of WD is over) for energy. Try to get these items at Walmart...you will save at least 50% over a drugstore like Walgreens.
Bathroom Issues: Immodium....you don't want to stop things up completely because this is part of your system voiding the toxins so please follow instructions on the package.
Tummy Issues: Zantac or any OTC tummy product. You can also talk to your doctor about Zofran if it is really bad.
Dark Chocolate: Chocolate effects the pleasure center which opiates also does. Dark chocolate is best because it helps with cravings AND it is considered to be healthier.
Clonidine if your doctor will prescribe it. It is a high blood pressure medication so you need to talk to your doctor first. It is also used for opiate, nicotine and alcohol withdrawals. It does help reduce the symptoms quite a bit. One of the main benefits is it helps with cravings. It is only used for 7 to 10 days otherwise you would have to taper off of it (like most medications of this sort).
A local couple who provide fresh raw honey swear by bee pollen sprinkled on cereal, salads, vegies...pretty much whatever you want to put it on will help. One of our members commented that he just ingested it by a teaspoonful...I checked with the couple and they said 3 times daily. Our member said it helped a lot!
Sunshine and Exercise: Even though you won't feel like it getting outside for a short walk, soaking up some sunshine, feeling the breeze on your face. Light exercise will be very beneficial.
What I decided to do was to put together all the wonderful ideas and suggestions for withdrawal symptoms. We all wind up typing over and over and over the same things...so I wanted to make it easier for everyone. I hope you all find this beneficial. Post it in your journal...change it around to make it your own, post it daily in the forum if you want...whatever works best.
Thank you DominoSarah for all of your help....I'm sure a lot more could have been added to this but my focus was really on withdrawal relief. Thanks you everyone who told me these different remedies while I was detoxing or afterwards. I cannot take credit for any of these ideas......that was all of you!
Once again, thanks so much, I love and appreciate all of you. Here it goes...I hope you all like it and, like I said, feel free to make it your own, in your own words if you want. I'm going to keep mine posted in my journal so I can cut and paste over. I think Gnarly and Sarah should decide if this should be a permanent type post or not.
Have a wonderful weekend xoxo
Withdrawal Symptom Relief:
****PLEASE NOTE: Before using any of the vitamins, medications or supplements mentioned in this list please consult with your doctor. We are not doctors and do not know what medications you are taking, it is important that you make sure that there will not be any adverse effects to using even something that seems as benign as a multi-vitamin****
First, use the Search MedHelp and search for the Thomas Recipe.
Restless Leg Syndrome: Hylands Restless Leg Tablets (make sure it is the kind with Quinine in it)
or
Tonic Water (Schweppes is a good one) that also has quinine in it, sip on it until bedtime. Add something to it if you don't like the taste. I used sugar-free Crystal Light Tangerine flavor in mine.
Orthopedic socks, the tight ones for the lower legs
Ace bandages for the upper legs and arms, wrap tightly or use towels wrapped tightly
Before wrapping everything up rub some Ben Gay or Tiger Balm into the skin
or
Heating Pads
Achy Legs: So your legs aren't going a mile a minute but they are still achy and a little bit restless...use the ace bandages on them, have your dog lie on your legs or even your kitty cat stretching out...just something a bit heavy.
Big bag of Epsom Salts: A good 15 to 20 minute soak in a really hot bath with salts in it will relieve a lot of your symptoms like anxiety for a while in addition to helping get toxins out of your skin. Take as many per day as needed, definitely take one before you wrap up for RLS for the night.
Water, Lifewater with Electrolytes, Gatorade, anything to make sure you don't get dehydrated because that will make your symptoms worse. If you have a juicer fresh juice would be terrific as long as your tummy can handle it. Pedialyte can be made into popsicles...maybe not quite the same as the name brand but healthy and will feel good on your throat while giving you those great electrolytes! Because detoxing means you will be sweating out a lot of the toxins this means you will be sweating out all of your fluids...so drink a ton of liquids...at least double to triple what you normally do.
Protein shakes, bananas, toast, rice, applesauce, pudding snacks...whatever your tummy can handle. We never want to eat but the same thing goes here...if you don't eat a little bit your symptoms will be worse.
Sleep and Anxiety: Chamomile Tea, Melatonin, Sundown Super Melatonin (has Valerian, Passion Flower and other items good for sleep and anxiety). You can go the Valium route IF your doctor prescribes and you would only want to use it for maybe 7 days because you don't want to wind up addicted to benzo's.
Vitamins: Cal-Mag-Zinc 3in1, Good Multi-Vitamin, Super B Complex, Amino Acids like L-Lysine, B-12 injection or sublingual (this is for after the insomnia part of WD is over) for energy. Try to get these items at Walmart...you will save at least 50% over a drugstore like Walgreens.
Bathroom Issues: Immodium....you don't want to stop things up completely because this is part of your system voiding the toxins so please follow instructions on the package.
Tummy Issues: Zantac or any OTC tummy product. You can also talk to your doctor about Zofran if it is really bad.
Dark Chocolate: Chocolate effects the pleasure center which opiates also does. Dark chocolate is best because it helps with cravings AND it is considered to be healthier.
Clonidine if your doctor will prescribe it. It is a high blood pressure medication so you need to talk to your doctor first. It is also used for opiate, nicotine and alcohol withdrawals. It does help reduce the symptoms quite a bit. One of the main benefits is it helps with cravings. It is only used for 7 to 10 days otherwise you would have to taper off of it (like most medications of this sort).
A local couple who provide fresh raw honey swear by bee pollen sprinkled on cereal, salads, vegies...pretty much whatever you want to put it on will help. One of our members commented that he just ingested it by a teaspoonful...I checked with the couple and they said 3 times daily. Our member said it helped a lot!
Sunshine and Exercise: Even though you won't feel like it getting outside for a short walk, soaking up some sunshine, feeling the breeze on your face. Light exercise will be very beneficial.
There is a new posting up with the updated information. It is the only time I will post it here in the forum...is available in my journal though. I am taking a break but it has nothing to do with anyone here...I made a promise to someone here that if I felt overwhelmed that I would take time for myself so that is what I am doing.
These pages are not intended to take away from anyone. It is a page of suggestions only that each person is welcome to take, use it as is, make it your own, etc. It was supposed to be simple. It actually is too long to use the way Gnarly suggested...which is why I like my original idea of those who want it just take it.
Have a good weekend everyone.
These pages are not intended to take away from anyone. It is a page of suggestions only that each person is welcome to take, use it as is, make it your own, etc. It was supposed to be simple. It actually is too long to use the way Gnarly suggested...which is why I like my original idea of those who want it just take it.
Have a good weekend everyone.
Got it!!!!
There are many, many news things coming out these days to help people in easing there w/ds a bit. More & more info about Addiction and more & more info on vit/min, Supplements & OTC things. Lots of things I have, I could not put on here because of the web site & the modes blocking it out. Just like I found a hot new Supplement called ZEOLITE which has been listed safe by the FDA and has physical properties.. It is one of only 2 minerals that negatively charge by nature, which means it actually attracts the toxins like a magnet. A unique cage-like structure traps these body harming enemies and carries them out of the body..But this product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. SO what might work for some might not for others. It is all in trying it and finding out on your own.
My point was that not everyone gets the same benefits as other do. Plus I like it when I read something new and go and give it a try.
I do miss the Health pages that where on the R bottom about the Amino-Acids and the one that talked about the foods that helped raise the Dopamines. That kind of info is good and it also is worth researching.
No disrespect here..I just found it kind of confusing & as you know all these Years there has been so many different things suggested on here. In 2 years I have seen alot so I could only imagine what you older timers have seen come & go. Some things I do not even see coming in any more.
I work very close with a natural Dr these days and I have been picking up all kinds of hot info lately on and about the Brain & Body and what does what and why. It is very, very interesting. Just like when I was younger I was all into the natural ways of eating and so on..Herbs, Oils, Vit/Min you name it..OH!!! What happen on down the line..Oh!! I know I became a Addict and nothing mattered but finding that drug for me to be able to survive. Ha!
Just like the shock of my Heart issue. I always ate very Healthy and Exercised all the time. Like I was a dancer for years and a big time hiker. So that had nothing to do with anything but Genes and they said it started at a young age..I told the DR at the Hospital that I swear that the Vit/Min that I have been taking the last few Years played a BIG role in why my one blocked arteries found a new route, plus my God. He laughed and said why waste your money on vit/min and so did some of the other nurses and Drs..I was so Mad and I told them to stick it where the Sun does not shine. I do not care what they think because they are all into the Pills for money and I will not waste my time talking to you about this!! My Regular H Dr was OK with it all, it was the Hospital Dr & Nurses..lol
OK WE R GOOD TO GO!!!
Bless
There are many, many news things coming out these days to help people in easing there w/ds a bit. More & more info about Addiction and more & more info on vit/min, Supplements & OTC things. Lots of things I have, I could not put on here because of the web site & the modes blocking it out. Just like I found a hot new Supplement called ZEOLITE which has been listed safe by the FDA and has physical properties.. It is one of only 2 minerals that negatively charge by nature, which means it actually attracts the toxins like a magnet. A unique cage-like structure traps these body harming enemies and carries them out of the body..But this product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. SO what might work for some might not for others. It is all in trying it and finding out on your own.
My point was that not everyone gets the same benefits as other do. Plus I like it when I read something new and go and give it a try.
I do miss the Health pages that where on the R bottom about the Amino-Acids and the one that talked about the foods that helped raise the Dopamines. That kind of info is good and it also is worth researching.
No disrespect here..I just found it kind of confusing & as you know all these Years there has been so many different things suggested on here. In 2 years I have seen alot so I could only imagine what you older timers have seen come & go. Some things I do not even see coming in any more.
I work very close with a natural Dr these days and I have been picking up all kinds of hot info lately on and about the Brain & Body and what does what and why. It is very, very interesting. Just like when I was younger I was all into the natural ways of eating and so on..Herbs, Oils, Vit/Min you name it..OH!!! What happen on down the line..Oh!! I know I became a Addict and nothing mattered but finding that drug for me to be able to survive. Ha!
Just like the shock of my Heart issue. I always ate very Healthy and Exercised all the time. Like I was a dancer for years and a big time hiker. So that had nothing to do with anything but Genes and they said it started at a young age..I told the DR at the Hospital that I swear that the Vit/Min that I have been taking the last few Years played a BIG role in why my one blocked arteries found a new route, plus my God. He laughed and said why waste your money on vit/min and so did some of the other nurses and Drs..I was so Mad and I told them to stick it where the Sun does not shine. I do not care what they think because they are all into the Pills for money and I will not waste my time talking to you about this!! My Regular H Dr was OK with it all, it was the Hospital Dr & Nurses..lol
OK WE R GOOD TO GO!!!
Bless
COMMUNITY LEADER
It's not a recipe, just suggestions on helping get thru the wd's. This wasnt intended to take the place of others writing to the new posters.
I myself do not like just one recipe up..What works for some might not work for others. When I came off of just hydo/oxys it was a WAY different w/d then this last one a couple of years ago, with those 3 other type of meds.
I too had to find what would work and what would not. The BIG thing is that vit/min are not the magic healer here in the first few weeks due to the time it take for them to kick in. Water, and more Water is the Key at first for me. A person will still detox out the toxins no matter what and it will come through the skin, nose, eyes and bathroom. I have enjoyed what others have come up with in the post by what worked for them. This gave me a chance to learn something new and try it.
Another thing is that the BP med are used for Anxiety & Sleep plus it helps the Heart not to tick or pump so hard causing some problems.Has nothing to do with cravings..Sorry! I had a long talk with the Drs about all of these meds and many DRs use the Clonidine too and one uses it as needed for sleep.
I do agree with the Salt Baths and it does help draw out poisons and relaxes the muscles..This is why I used (after months) the Calcium, Magnesium and Potassium at Night to help me relax as that is what they will due. I also used to rub Magnesium oil on the bottom of my feet and on my aches and because of my Bone aches I would go lay under a Big Heating Blanket and it worked for ME!! I do agree about the Protein power working great and it helps when someone has a up set stomach and can not eat right. It is full of vit/min too. I also got my amino acids all the L-s in one Bottle A-V and then used extra ones for sleep and some for energy. These are good. There is also a mix called electrolytes and it has the magnesium, cal and such in it too. Also all the Cs, Bs and so on are good but this helped me when my Anxiety was gone and I needed energy. I remember the Rhodiola being pushed around here a couple of years and I tried that one too. Read somewhere that you can put a dash of seas salt in your lemon water and this will help keep you hydrated but of coarse you would have to talk to dr in case you are not allowed extra sodium. There are SO many vit/min I get that are ordered and are plant based..These are the purest one I can find so far. There are tons of different things that worked for different people so I do think that NOT one Size fits all here.
Most Dr now days are giving you the BP med, Gabpentin, a muscle relaxer and a Anxiety pill. They say this is a quick fix but I still like the natural way, but like I said it does take time for these to kick in.
I am not saying that this post is bad or wrong, I just like to read what other people have used as we are all different..I did not ever even look at the Tomas Recipe either because I was already doing my own thing when I joined on here. I do agree with alot but it is not a quick cure and the new ones need to know that they will still feel a w/d but these things will ease it a bit down the line. PLUS things regarding your Brain & Body change as you get more & more months in and as we get older.
There where a few of us that studied this in a more Scientific way but some people still do not care about that..SO I just put a few pieces of info in my Journal and play it by ear if someone might like to read some of it. I think things like this are good to put in a journal so if someone wants to look then they can..Others might have their own way of detoxing and some know a bit more what works because of going through it a couple of times.
I wish everybody the best and I am not trying to be mean or rude but I like what others say in the post on what worked for them..lol Yes, Aftercare for me started at day one even if I was very sick!!! I still also think if someone can eat then they should eat very Healthy to get their vit/min. I had to lay off the caffeine and sugars for at least a month. Then I would eat some small pieces at night and it would help me sleep a bit because it raised my sugar level way up and I dropped. I got a few winks in after 22-25 days.
So this is just the way I feel about this and please do not take it badly..Just my opinion. lol
Bless
Peace!!!!!
I too had to find what would work and what would not. The BIG thing is that vit/min are not the magic healer here in the first few weeks due to the time it take for them to kick in. Water, and more Water is the Key at first for me. A person will still detox out the toxins no matter what and it will come through the skin, nose, eyes and bathroom. I have enjoyed what others have come up with in the post by what worked for them. This gave me a chance to learn something new and try it.
Another thing is that the BP med are used for Anxiety & Sleep plus it helps the Heart not to tick or pump so hard causing some problems.Has nothing to do with cravings..Sorry! I had a long talk with the Drs about all of these meds and many DRs use the Clonidine too and one uses it as needed for sleep.
I do agree with the Salt Baths and it does help draw out poisons and relaxes the muscles..This is why I used (after months) the Calcium, Magnesium and Potassium at Night to help me relax as that is what they will due. I also used to rub Magnesium oil on the bottom of my feet and on my aches and because of my Bone aches I would go lay under a Big Heating Blanket and it worked for ME!! I do agree about the Protein power working great and it helps when someone has a up set stomach and can not eat right. It is full of vit/min too. I also got my amino acids all the L-s in one Bottle A-V and then used extra ones for sleep and some for energy. These are good. There is also a mix called electrolytes and it has the magnesium, cal and such in it too. Also all the Cs, Bs and so on are good but this helped me when my Anxiety was gone and I needed energy. I remember the Rhodiola being pushed around here a couple of years and I tried that one too. Read somewhere that you can put a dash of seas salt in your lemon water and this will help keep you hydrated but of coarse you would have to talk to dr in case you are not allowed extra sodium. There are SO many vit/min I get that are ordered and are plant based..These are the purest one I can find so far. There are tons of different things that worked for different people so I do think that NOT one Size fits all here.
Most Dr now days are giving you the BP med, Gabpentin, a muscle relaxer and a Anxiety pill. They say this is a quick fix but I still like the natural way, but like I said it does take time for these to kick in.
I am not saying that this post is bad or wrong, I just like to read what other people have used as we are all different..I did not ever even look at the Tomas Recipe either because I was already doing my own thing when I joined on here. I do agree with alot but it is not a quick cure and the new ones need to know that they will still feel a w/d but these things will ease it a bit down the line. PLUS things regarding your Brain & Body change as you get more & more months in and as we get older.
There where a few of us that studied this in a more Scientific way but some people still do not care about that..SO I just put a few pieces of info in my Journal and play it by ear if someone might like to read some of it. I think things like this are good to put in a journal so if someone wants to look then they can..Others might have their own way of detoxing and some know a bit more what works because of going through it a couple of times.
I wish everybody the best and I am not trying to be mean or rude but I like what others say in the post on what worked for them..lol Yes, Aftercare for me started at day one even if I was very sick!!! I still also think if someone can eat then they should eat very Healthy to get their vit/min. I had to lay off the caffeine and sugars for at least a month. Then I would eat some small pieces at night and it would help me sleep a bit because it raised my sugar level way up and I dropped. I got a few winks in after 22-25 days.
So this is just the way I feel about this and please do not take it badly..Just my opinion. lol
Bless
Peace!!!!!
COMMUNITY LEADER
See this has already helped one person and that right there is huge!
Thanks for this. Im on day 24 & I've incorporated all this except the stockings but i had to piece it together suggestion by suggestion. Now I'm doing it all & starting to feel better.
Thanks for putting it all together!!!
You rock:-)
Thanks for putting it all together!!!
You rock:-)
I take that back...I did get a comment and suggestions from one person when I was working on this :-)
None of you upset me....I actually had something up for a week or so asking for comments and I got none. I appreciate all the comments...I am frustrated with myself..not with any of you. I really wanted this to be something that everyone could take for themselves, make it their own and have that be the end of it.
Next time I will go with my own gut instinct :-)
Next time I will go with my own gut instinct :-)
Thanks Sonrissa. I read over my post many times trying to see what I said that could be upsetting and I still don't see it.
Like I said I think your idea is great but I can only suggest things that I've tried and what has worked for me.
I didn't realize that the Health pages were gone and also the "Thomas Recipe".
I didn't ever in all of my detoxes experience restless legs. I did have it in my arms and chest (I assume that's what it was).
Please don't think I was being critical. We used to have a girl on here that posted something similar on every newbies thread. It was something like, Just think of it has having the flu and it went on to give a lot of the suggestions like yours. I know it helped me immensely when she posted it on my thread the first time so don't give up on your idea. The more posts and suggestions the better.
I have noticed that the forum isn't very active lately so you having everything in one post is fantastic. I like the idea of you having it in your journal so we can refer people to it or copy and paste it.
I didn't realize that the Health pages were gone and also the "Thomas Recipe".
I didn't ever in all of my detoxes experience restless legs. I did have it in my arms and chest (I assume that's what it was).
Please don't think I was being critical. We used to have a girl on here that posted something similar on every newbies thread. It was something like, Just think of it has having the flu and it went on to give a lot of the suggestions like yours. I know it helped me immensely when she posted it on my thread the first time so don't give up on your idea. The more posts and suggestions the better.
I have noticed that the forum isn't very active lately so you having everything in one post is fantastic. I like the idea of you having it in your journal so we can refer people to it or copy and paste it.
PK, honey this is my opinion. I think you are taking things a bit too personally at this point. You've had some very positive support here, as well as some great input. I don't see anything negative to the point where you need to throw up your hands and walk away. Whenever you make a post here, one thing is for sure. You will get lots of input and opinions. Some, you will not agree with. You must develop a tough skin, and can't just give up when someone makes a comment that you perceive to be unsupportive. Please trust me, I've had to learn this the hard way. Ask anyone here how many times I got ticked off and picked up my toys and went home. The best thing about this forum is the sharing of opinions, ideas, and the wonderful support. You have done a very good thing here. I like this. I have no doubt that you have noting but the best of intentions, and true love in your heart. I always try to say, take what you can use, and leave the rest. I honestly do not believe anyone here was trying to hurt your feelings or put you down. I hope you will give this some thought.
I, for one appreciate the time, thought, and effort that went into this post. It has some great information. Take care, and as always I'm wishing you the very best.
I, for one appreciate the time, thought, and effort that went into this post. It has some great information. Take care, and as always I'm wishing you the very best.
K-
This is wonderful. And we certainly do get tired of typing it out over and over again (:
I found that after about 6 months on this site I would let other people write all that stuff and just add my 2 cents, or some personal things. It would be good to have a list of the MUSTS on the health pages like we used to...Or maybe just a journal entry where everyone can post and then we can cut and paste with all of our combined experiences. Don't drop it honey. I don't think you are upsetting anybody. Everybody just has opinions and is voicing them.
You give a lot, and I can tell you are feeling a bit sensitive. I don't think anybody on here meant to be hurtful, and I know that everyone appreciates all of your kindhearted advice and the hours you put in on here.
You are going through an awful lot and I know that your instinct is to take care of everyone and that is WONDERFUL.
Just make sure you are taking time for YOU too okay?
Don't censor who you are or put your Type A in the closet. You help a lot of people and you are perfect and beautiful just the way you are.
I, for one, appreciate you immensely.
Much love,
Lu
This is wonderful. And we certainly do get tired of typing it out over and over again (:
I found that after about 6 months on this site I would let other people write all that stuff and just add my 2 cents, or some personal things. It would be good to have a list of the MUSTS on the health pages like we used to...Or maybe just a journal entry where everyone can post and then we can cut and paste with all of our combined experiences. Don't drop it honey. I don't think you are upsetting anybody. Everybody just has opinions and is voicing them.
You give a lot, and I can tell you are feeling a bit sensitive. I don't think anybody on here meant to be hurtful, and I know that everyone appreciates all of your kindhearted advice and the hours you put in on here.
You are going through an awful lot and I know that your instinct is to take care of everyone and that is WONDERFUL.
Just make sure you are taking time for YOU too okay?
Don't censor who you are or put your Type A in the closet. You help a lot of people and you are perfect and beautiful just the way you are.
I, for one, appreciate you immensely.
Much love,
Lu
youre great PK I really mean it. don't feel bad, its always putting yourself out there to be here on the front. you do such a great job of it!!!! don't even trip. you are golden and we need you!! muk love!
Yeah I've got mojo all right...but typically it seems to upset people...I need to put my Type A in the closet, do my own thing and just quit trying to help. Seems to be safer that way. Hugz
Thanks hun...that's why I like my original idea of having anyone who wants the paper to take it, put it in their journal, personalize it their way and move on from there. I certainly don't want to cause problems...I just wanted to help.
I'm just going to drop the whole thing!
I'm just going to drop the whole thing!
I gotta say PK you sure have a lot of mojo. its all good and I think your determination, drive, and well wishes are incredibly powerful. I like the other comments too though, what people said ... its nice for the newbies to have the idea that things are personalized for them and like, they're the center of attn. when they come on here for the first time etc. But you are great to do this! I admire your hard work and kindness.
Seriously, I'd leave it off. Those stockings can be dangerous and many people don't even know they have circulatory insufficiency. It would be a bad way to find out. If you keep the suggestion there, please be sure to list all the ways to check for adequate circulation and list the dangers to compromised individuals. I'm sorry to push this so strenuously but I'd be remiss if I didn't.
Yes Pat...I still think that everyone should share their own experiences. Originally I just thought that anyone who wanted to use this page could come and cut and paste it for themselves. I will talk to Mark about your viewpoint tonight and see what he says. Having me post on Day pages was an idea he had. I'm willing to go anyway the majority wants. I don't want to step on toes or upset anyone. The ONLY reason I did this paper was to make it easier for everyone who wanted to use it.
I still like the idea of me just periodically posting it in the forum but I've been told it will get pulled if I do that. I will send a message to Lira and see what the mods have to say about it too :-)
Will try to do this so everyone is happy....if it is going to make anyone unhappy I'll just delete it.
I still like the idea of me just periodically posting it in the forum but I've been told it will get pulled if I do that. I will send a message to Lira and see what the mods have to say about it too :-)
Will try to do this so everyone is happy....if it is going to make anyone unhappy I'll just delete it.
I think this is great but it's nice for everyone to contribute to newbies posts with their own experiences and what works for them.
Isn't that what it's all about? Sharing our own experiences? I think that's all that we do and can do.
Isn't that what it's all about? Sharing our own experiences? I think that's all that we do and can do.
Thanks Vicki...when I get back I'll make some changes. I'm going to leave the compression stockings on BUT I will put your warning right there just like we decided to do with the vitamins and supplements. Even if I don't put the suggestion on the paper someone will suggest it...I've seen it often...so I'd rather have it suggested with the warning.
Your suggestions are good- One thing I would not suggest are the compression stockings/tight hose. There are some folks who should just not use them: Anyone with diabetes, neuropathy, peripheral vascular disease, a leg ulcer or infected area on the leg. We can't know the medical background for everyone and don't want to cause an injury with our advice. I would remove that suggestion.
Also, the Epsom salt baths. Along with being relaxing, the main reason these salts are so helpful is because they contain magnesium which is what muscles are craving. The magnesium is absorbed during the soak, thus calming the RLS.
All the best with your continued recovery; keep it first and foremost in your daily life-
Also, the Epsom salt baths. Along with being relaxing, the main reason these salts are so helpful is because they contain magnesium which is what muscles are craving. The magnesium is absorbed during the soak, thus calming the RLS.
All the best with your continued recovery; keep it first and foremost in your daily life-
Same here...people come over and I have been known to put a note on the door saying "I am not responsible for the condition of this room" lol. He just laughs. I'm heading to bed now...gotta be a good girl and get some rest so I don't get yelled at for overdoing it ;-)
Have a great night....you too Mark!
Have a great night....you too Mark!
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