Adderol side effects, tolerance, and dependancy.

[Pippetta_kt]

I am prescribed adderol for my add and I have a few questions to ask.
The only times that I've used adderol is when I'm at work or while I'm at school. It honestly does help me stay focused and on task. What are the side effects for long and short term use?
Since I work almost everyday, I have been taking my adderol almost everyday. I've noticed that I need to take more in order for me to stay focused. I know that you are supposed to take it with food but when I eat I have to take 20-25 for it help me stay on task and if I don't then I only have to take 10-15mg. When I started taking it I only needed 7.5mg. I have also tried XR 10mg that my brother takes and it didn't seem to have any effect on me. Is this because my body has built up a tolerance to it being in my body? I'm just worried that I'm going to have to keep upping my dose. I have tried XR 10mg that my brother takes and it didn't seem to have any effect on me.
I've tried working without taking any adderol and I'm completely lost and distracted mainly the entire time I try to finish a task. I don't know if I "feel" like I have to take it or if I truly need it. Could I possibly have a dependancy to it?

[chef4u]

I know this is a addiction site Im a addict and as addict I know im am here because of MY SAVIOR maybe not yours I have every right to state that God is part of my recovery!
and I love the way non-Christians say we(Christians) are judgemental but yet you felt it OK to criticize my beliefs all I was doing was posting to a wrong post if your going to quote Jesus just get it right! will never back down from my beliefs
God Bless

[feohmoon]

You have resonded to an old post...perhaps you would like post a new question.
This is an addiction forum...I respect anyones religion but this is not the place to attempt to convert witches.
Those of us who truly practice witchcraft have more respect and spirituality than I ever experieced in my hypocritical christian upbringing.

[chef4u]

as a Christian were does it say we are not to spread the word and as far as Jesus destroying the temple it was because they had made a mockery of his HOUSE selling wares making money worshiping false idols not because he was mad about others condemning others for believing what they want, in the old testament God says he is a Jealous God and that all should worship him alone. aea is correct in what she wrote and for you to Go as the name God is insulting to Christians I try to respect everyone I would not condemn witchy thats God job which I fully believe we all will be judged but the only way into his KINGDOM is through the blood of his lamb Jesus Christ
God Bless and Prayers

[prary]

'aea', it's quite good that you are trying to convert, but you can't force them to read the Holy Bible or forcibly convert them into Christianity, (being Christian myself.)

'GOD', again said, he's not forcing anyone to convert to Christianity, but you also have one thing wrong.''It is not your job to convert those in this world.'' It was said also that it is our job as the Children of God to spread the gospel/word. Such as the story of Saul, becoming Paul.

'Witchywoman', I'm not trying to bombard you with the words of Christians, for any case that might be misunderstood. It is just that as the way 'aea' poses witchcraft as 'satanic' is the stereotypic way the people perceive 'witches' as, especially through the media. I am not imposing that you are satanic, a devil-worshiper, or simply a (slang term) witch. I don't really know the true meaning of your polytheistic religion, but I do believe that you are doing quite good for the people. Your kind words show pure and true heart, and hopefully you can be a forerunner towards future generations, in kindness that is. I do believe that Christianity is the one and true religion, but I am very apathetic, in all respects, towards what religion you choose to believe in. I do not want to infringe your rights as a person, and especially do not want you to do wrongs, spiritually. You keep practicing your 'Wicca'!

And in end to my long comment,

May God bless you all and be with you through these hard times of recovering.

(   or Gods for you :]   )

[Witchywoman]

Thanks for the support Jess. :-)

Aea, I practice love, healing, and compassion. I'll let you read more about it on the web, just do a search on Wicca or go to witchvox.com to find out what we *really* are about.

I am happy with my religion and my spirituality, and hope you are happy with yours. I truly believe that there is more than just one true way and hope everyone finds what is right for them.
Love and compassion are the words that unite all the religions of the world, not judgement and condemnation.

in peace and love,
WW

[GOD]

Dear AeA, you must let them practice whatever religion that they choose. It is not your job to convert those in this world. You said that you were a believer in Christ and his teachings, Right? Then you MUST leave them alone if you are a true Christian. They will be judged by their actions towards their fellow man-- their actions right here on earth rather than whatever religious beleifs that they profess. This is the way of Christ. He would be very angry if he came back today, and saw his teachings so twisted (by our ever-increasingly greedy churches and "Organized" Religions) and filled with hatred towards our fellow man. Remember when Christ was so angered at the synagogue that he basically destroyed it?

Now go read your Bible! Try getting a copy of the NIV King James-- The words of Christ are highlighted in RED. You will be amazed a what JESUS actually taught and professed, as compared with what you thought you knew from Sunday school, and your Pastor or Minister's sermons.

Peace be with you,
~~~~JesseSarpy~~~~

[aea]

I am a Christian & I just stumbled upon a comment by WW that bothered me and I felt I needed to voice my beliefs on it. I really am a firm believer in Jesus Christ. He is the way the truth and the life. He is the first and the last. Jesus died on the cross for our sins so that we may live. Read John 3:16 in the Holy Bible. It reads: "For God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him shall not parish , but have eternal life". This means all you have to do is you just believe in him, accept him into your heart, and ask for forgiveness. He loves you and & I would really hope that you think about the beliefs you are practicing. Witchery is of satan and only in the Love of Jesus Christ will you find true peace and happiness and eternal life with him in Heaven. May God be with you.

[Witchywoman]

Congrats on making it this far Kell!!! way to go. Keep doing it, one day at a time as they say.  :-)

Samar, the 5htp stands for 5 hydroxytryptophan. It is an amino acid, and the direct precusor for seratonin production in the body. Seratonin is the neurotransmitter responsible for mood. Too low and you get depressed. Too high and you get manic. Just right and you feel good. It is made from the seed of the graphonia plant and is a natural substand.

I'm not sure what SAMe stands for, but if you type it into a search engine you'll find tons of scienctific articles about it. I do know it is a substance that occurs naturally in the body, helps with neurotransmitter production, detoxifies the liver, and helps with joint pain. It has been a miracle for.  The cool thing is it has as  strong an antidepressant effect as prozac did for me but none of the sexual side effects.  The uncool thing is it is damned expensive.

Thanks for the kind comments. I call myself Withchywoman because I am a Witch. Witchraft is a life affirming religion that centers on the Divine being found right here and now, in nature. It is polytheistic, believing in many Gods and Goddesses. It's main focus tends to be healing, though there are many differnt forms of it.  It is a compassionate, caring religion that has been the focus of my life for over 20 years.

love,
WW

[samar]

Hey WW.......You are sooooooo sweet, usually the only one to respond to me and I appreciate it immensely, you have no idea.  Please let me know what the 5htp stands for and the SamE.  What are those?  Where do you get them?  I am sure where I live I will be able to locate it.  I can get depressive so I would really like to explore that part of the recipe.  Again thanks for your warm heart.  I don't know why you call yourself witchywoman because you seem far, far from it.....  :) Ali

[pillhell]

Whats worse the pain,depression,guilt,or fighting that urge to get high.Its all hell.I know exactly how horrible the depression is.5 days is absolutely incredible.YOU ARE STRONG!You can do this!!I don't know how active you are.I know it can be almost impossible to get out of the house when you are trying to kick,and are depressed.But try it.It helps me to go for a walk,or to write my thoughts down.Which is why this forum is a godsent.Dont give up!Is there a doctor you can talk to?Maybe there is something you can take for the depression thats not habbit forming.Keep posting on the forum,even if you don't have a question,you just want to vent.I hope anything I said will help you.Keep up the good fight!As depressed as you are,just remember when its all said and done,you will feel better about yourself.Talk 2 u soon.

[Witchywoman]

The recipe is indeed called Thomas's recipe, from a poster who used to be a regular here, and occassionally dose show up now and then. Thomas are you out there? We miss you!

The recipe is:
L-Tyrosine 8 500mg capsules, on an empty stomach (my edit here..this was too much for me, gave me a bad stomach ache and made me feel jittery, but some folks need this much. Test what works for you)
B-complex
Hot baths to help with muscle aches
Valium to help with sleep, but be careful to not take it too long or you will get addicted to it.
Multimineral tablet that includes zinc, magnesium, and manganese, as well as calcium.

I added 5 htp and SAM-e, that help with the depression quite a bit.

That's it in a nut shell. I have the whole version Thomas wrote but it is on my other computer. It is reprinted in a thread below though, I'm pretty sure.

good luck!
love,
WW

[Witchywoman]

Kell congratulations for making it to day 5! You are most likely through the worst of the physical wds, but now the difficult mental wds begin, and to me, they were the hardest to battle.

Now is the time to put down any attempt to do it all on your own, and *reach out* to anyone you can.  Go to a 12 meeting, go to see a therapist, write to us here all you want to, tell a friend you trust. They key is to avoid isolation. Anytime you stay in community with other addicts you will have all  the strength of all of us to add to your own desire to get clean.

I strongly recommend seeing a therapist. It has helped me enormously, and I am actually about to get back into therapy to deal with marital problem.  I also am a therapist myself, so of course I believe in it, but it can really help you to stay focused on the issues that were behind the addiction to begin with.

I just also want to say that you have come a long way in a very short time. Your first time on this forum was a post asking for online sources of meds, and now suddenly here you are in day 5 of detox. Be very proud of yourself! We are all pulling for you.

One piece of advice...take the supplements! Your brain needs extra nutritional help to get back to normal. The L-Tyrosine will help the dopamine and norepinephrine start to function normally again, which gets your natural endorphin production begining again.  The 5 htp and SAMe will help boost seratonin levels and take care of the depression. The SAMe is also a powerful liver detoxifyer.  Vitamin C helps a lot, Vitamin bcompolex is important for normal neurotransmitter function. And water. Lots and lots of water. You will feel lethargy for a week or two now, but if you can get through that you will be completely free.

I'll get off my soap box now, but am so happy that you are almost through it all.

love,
WW

[OxyDout]

just remember the guilt you feel now and don't ever forget it, along with the pain depression ect.... Every time you try to detox all of that emotion and pain will multiple and make it 10 times worse.  Keep up the hard work, don't look back and always remember that most of us are here because "one more pill can't hurt" just leave them alone.  Good luck!! keep posting.

GWH

[tex3]

Hi Kell and congratulations! As was mentioned, detox really does get tougher physically each time (at least it did for me, and many others I believe). Remember that if you were to falter now, you'd have to relive the past days all over again. I know the depression sucks, but think of it as a gift - at least you're feeling SOMETHING, not numbed as you've been while on pills. Very soon colors will be brighter and things will look much better, I promise. I couldn't believe how great it felt just to experience normal emotions.
That said, the depression really can get to you. Cry and let it out. Take the recipe, especially the L-tyrosone, if you aren't already. That turned my mental state around 100 percent. Hang in there and accept any help that is offered. I swear that in another few weeks you will feel wonderful, and each day from here will get easier. Good luck and we'll be pulling for you. tracy

[samar]

Can someone tell me what the "recipe" is or where I can find it?  WW mentioned some of the supplements but I am not sure about the entire recipe.  Is it called the Thomas recipe?  Thanks.  I like to make sure I am doing everything possible to get my body and mind to a healthier state.  And yes, after 5 days things are starting to look brighter!  For me anyway.....

PS/  I am not cleanman's roommate......   :)

[kell737]

Hi everyone.  Thanks for all your responses.  You all are great.  Just wanted to let everyone know I'm on day 6!! I didn't give in and I dont plan too.   Today is pretty rough but not near as bad as the last few days. Today I've just been fighting the urge BIG TIME to give... Well, I didnt!  Also, the last few nights I've had horrible nightmares.  I suppose thats part of this whole crapping w/d thing.  I went to my father's grave today and spent most of the afternoon there.  That helped tremendously!  I feel he's with me and helping me through this.  I so much appreciate the support from you all.  Reading the posts from this forum has been another thing that keeps me going.... Knowing I'm not the only one in the world (by far) who can make it through this.  DAY 7!!!.............. Seems like a lifetime.   Thanks everyone.

~kell

[lostlady]

Hey Kell - I am so glad to hear you've made it to day 5!  That is so good - you should be so proud of yourself.  I don't have the experience that some of the other posters have -but from looking at the other posts - it sounds like the worst of the w/d's should be gone by day 7.  It sounds like you are doing all the right things - here's a suggestion that is really working for me - not sure if it will help you - but it's worth a shot. I grew up in the 80's - and now we have a local radio station that plays all 80's music.  I've found that listening to the music really distracts me and reminds of me of good times that I had prior to my addiction.  I feel almost normal when listening to the songs.  Also - one of the worst feelings that i've been experiencing is the so called "sweats"  I been taking an ice pack around w/ me and putting it on the back of my neck.  I am not sure why it works - but it does.  It cools me off and actually makes me calmer.  

I know you can do this - you've made it to day 5.  I will be thinking of you and will send up a prayer for you and all of the other posters here on this board.  I will check back later if you just need someone to talk to!

[kell737]

Hi everyone.  Day 5 for me!  I almost gave up today several times.  This is so tough.  Today has been really bad... probably the worst day since Saturday.  Anyone have any suggestions on what else I can do before I lose my mind? ...I'm eating Motrin like candy and pretty much staying in the bathtub but the depression is getting rough.  HELP!
~kell

[Gianna m]

If you are still checking this site let me know how you made out with the info I gave you-please!