Anyone tried or know about the waismann method.

[TysonRed]

I was just wondering if anyone out there has or knows someone who has experienced the Waismann Method???  Im wondering about its success rates, I saw somewhere that women after a year supposedly had 65% success rate, but didnt find anything on men. I know that Waismann is an inpatient procedure usually lasting 5-7days, your induced into withdrawl after being put under anesthesia, then given sedatives and sleeping pills when you wake up and are transferred to ICU. Im curious to hear if anyone knows of the success rates involved, how the success differs from drug to drug, I would think the success rates of  someone on hydrocodone would be greater than that of someone on methadone, oxycontin. Now I also would think that amounts of medication and its abuse would have to be factored in and their personal medical info. So if anyone out there has been through it please respond, if you know of someone that would be great, or if you've looked into yourself what have you found? Just so others know, Im looking into it for friends that may be able to benefit greatly from it, one friend in particular is on methadone and can't stop. He has no insurance so his care has subsequently has been less the adequate. But he does have family members that could fully afford to pay, if they were made somewhat certain that it would be successful. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance, I'll be sticking around to see if I can get any responses.

[dillon1954]

I got the same treatment at local hospital for accidental over dose by a hospital connected pain management M.D.
Difference being I was not put under they just kept pumping the Narcan in me I begged screamed they wanted to strap me down my wife refused and stayed to help hold me down...I saw my dead mother and 2 dead brothers near death???who knows....so now I am 60 addicted to all this **** because of spinal neuro and spinal complications .....woke up in icu 3 days later .....sent to floor and was treated like a junkie......and all they did to me did not work they sent me home with a reduced amount that I did not stick to anyway they tried their best just gives me a guilt complex...

[IBKleen]

I think it is a complete waste of money. GETTING clean is not an issue for us addict. STAYING clean is where many fail. They may have got the opiates out of his body but what happens when he comes home? He does not have the tools he needs for recovery. I wish him luck.

[lynette900]

I am just reading these comments on different people that have tried the  Waismann method and some sound very disturbing. I am a sister of a brother in his mid 40s that has dealt with opiate addiction for over 10 years . It has been ongoing battle . First off I feel for anybody that is going through this as a family member for the person struggling with addiction them self's . This is a wide epidemic spreading across the world.  


My brother just started the rapid detox program . I'm sure there are different clinics that do this program of proclaim to . The one my brother is at he was first taken to a hospital in southern California . The fist day he went through medical screening and then the next day they start the rapid detox under medical MD doctor in a ICU environment . after they released him from the icu he was sent to a recovery program where he has been monitored by an on sight staff of caregivers and trained medical and even a cook . I have been talking to him daily and I think this has probably the hardest thing in his life and will continue to be for a long time .
  I really don't believe this was easy  process . My brother told me that he was sick and did deal with withdraw in the hospital . He even had a bad panic attach and thought he was be held there as a hostage.I wish I could have been there with him. My brother has tried to tell me over the years what is feels like with the addition , how his brain functions differently . Its like he has been living in a fog and the withdraws well I guess imagine your worst nightmare coming to life. I guess i really wont know until i really get to talk to him more about it. Our conversations have been brief . I want to know he is alright and for him to know im here for him but at the same time I know this is his time and he has to do this and get through it .    .

Like i said this has just started and he is in the first few days of being opiate free . I say that him not taking anything. I do believe the drugs are still leaving his body and he has side effects from that . He has lost his appetite , stomach aches , diarrhea , muscle aches , body tremors ... and that is just the physical part .

This had been a very scary experience not only for my brother but my entire family .After talking with my brother this morning and his head nurse I feel more confident that he can get through this .

I will post again as time gos on with his progress and maybe even he will tell his story so others can know what to expect .



This is day 4

[EvolverU]

The thing about rapid detox that no one seems to get is that you STILL have to go through the post-withdrawal syndrome. Sure, you condense the first several days of withdrawal into 4 hrs. (Which, btw., is an incredible trauma to the nervous system & dangerous too boot!) There have been, to my knowledge, no long term studies comparing the neural healing & general condition of long-term patients of rapid detox v. c/t or taper patients. (This alone, screams 'red flag' to me). From my own research before my detox & from talking to patients that have gone this route, I've seen only mixed results @ best. While the Waismann method is probably the best amongst them, I'd opt for the less brutal, 'non-magic-bullet' route every time. While I think my friend directly above is being a little optimistic asserting that acute w/d's only last 5 days for regular opiates, I do in principle agree that a regular detox & aftercare is safer, saner & a far less costly way to go.

[Ben727]

I have come to the conclusion that Rapid Detox is essentially a scam. $30K to get some potential relief from physical withdrawal is absurd. It would be absurd if it worked, and from what I gather it's hit or miss that it even works. What happens if the person relapses after two weeks? Another $30K?

You can detox from any opiate for free, and you can get aftercare that works for free. Or if you're inclined to spend money, you could go to a top-of-the-line inpatient addiction recovery center for 90 days of aftercare in a gorgeous setting. Aside from methadone and suboxone, physical withdrawal is less than a week. Why do you need to spend $30K to detox in 2 days instead of doing it in 5 days for free?

Rapid detox is a scam that preys on desparate people.

[snap4500]

This is not true.  I went through the Waismann method 1 month ago and it was like an exorcism without a lpriest.  Worst experience of my life.  I have gone cold turkey before and it was awful but nothing compared to the Waismann rapid detox.  EVERYONE HAS WITHDRAWALS AFTER THIS PROCEDURE.  Every patient is incredibly sick and everyone says that they had no idea it was this awful.  The PA who is suppose to take care of you at the Domus is worthless.  She was negligent in her care and basically sat outside and smoked cigarettes most of the time.  They promise you over the phone before you come that within a few days after the procedure that you will wake up feeling GREAT..  That is a lie.  The ICU is archaic and the nurses are not available.  I cannot describe what it is like when you wake up in that ICU.  A dark , dismal room with a metal toilet that comes out of a cupboard.  Waking up hallucinating, unable to talk,  legs thrashing,  nauseated,  so completely disoriented,  I  felt like I was going to die, and I wanted to it was so horrific.  Nurses were unavailable, I had to scream in order to get some help.  I know that my writing is scattered.  It is because I still feel fuzzy in the brain.  I still have leg cramps, nausea, sleepless nights, horrible anxiety, am sneezing all the time-basically all the symptoms of opiate withdrawal.  I could go on and on.  I really want to spare people from this experience.  Do not go to the Waismann program. I spent 30,000 there, am in debt and still feel sick.  I also have nightmares about the ICU.