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CT off Percocet
Hi All,
I have been addicted to 10mg percocet for about 3 years now. It used to not be bad - used to only take about 50-60 per month. In the past 9 months (due to a family tradgedy it has become much worse) I am up to 10 a day or so. I just need off of it. I orginally started it for migraines and then had kidney stones, you know how the story goes. I am not strong enough to taper so I just need to C/T. My MD will give me ultram (I know I should not take this but I will use minimally and gives me no buzz - just helps with symptoms) and clonodine. I also have klonopin as well. I have 2 kids and I feel like when I take the percocet I am a better and more fun more. I like the buzz and like to do more fun things with them. I am really afraid that when I am clean I will not feel that same way. I guess I am just looking for some reassurance with all of this. Can I get through this? Can I deal with the aftermath? Please help me!
I have been addicted to 10mg percocet for about 3 years now. It used to not be bad - used to only take about 50-60 per month. In the past 9 months (due to a family tradgedy it has become much worse) I am up to 10 a day or so. I just need off of it. I orginally started it for migraines and then had kidney stones, you know how the story goes. I am not strong enough to taper so I just need to C/T. My MD will give me ultram (I know I should not take this but I will use minimally and gives me no buzz - just helps with symptoms) and clonodine. I also have klonopin as well. I have 2 kids and I feel like when I take the percocet I am a better and more fun more. I like the buzz and like to do more fun things with them. I am really afraid that when I am clean I will not feel that same way. I guess I am just looking for some reassurance with all of this. Can I get through this? Can I deal with the aftermath? Please help me!
hi just read through all ur post... first off u CAN do this and to answer ur question i saw so many time is YES u will be excited and happy w out these pills. I am 33 days clean and i feel the best i have way more than while using. I think it comes to a point tho u have to be sick of the life, sick of the pills, and just not happy anymore w the situation because it is a long preocess and it is HARD WORK BUT it pays off. I still have rough days after a month plus clean. I was clean for over 2 years and i can honestly say that was my best years. It is amazing when u start feeling emotions agian and ur not angry about everything adn trust me i LOVED my pills and the high it gave me but they turn on u so to speak u give up ur whole life for them and they stop giving u that high... it takes soooo much adn u still dont reach it it is just NOT worth it.... u will feel better and better each day. I am sorry to hear about ur brother i have lost loved ones to overdose on this same stuff it will take ur life it is no joke... i really should not even be here now w the amount i was taking. Do it for urself and then for ur kids they need a clean mommy. I would encourage u tho insead of beign scared about not living a "normal happy" life i would start thinking of the positives of quiting and write down what will be better because that is what is going to get u excited u have to remember ur brain essentually quit producing those happy endorphanes because the pills have been produycing false ones (not a very good descrition but u can ge tthe just of it) so u have to really be patient as ur brain starts to regain all those endorphans and excercise WILL help ALOT...
as far as the w/d go u will be fine it is rough but we all have to go through it it helps us to remember NEVER to go back because of having to do it all over again. I would NOT take the ultram i took it for 5 days all it did was postpone the w/d and when it did come it came bad and i was only taking 2 ultram a day i got restlees legs SOOOOO bad when i stopped it. It may help a ltitle but u will still have to get off that and i heard it can be harder than getting off percs/vics... the clonidine and benzo should be enough jsut be careful w the benzo u dont want to switch one addiction to the other.. u kinda just have to take it as it comes and stay strong it wont be easy but u can post ur way through it everyone on here will walk w u through every min if u need it... i wish u the best i will keep checking in to see if u post so when is ur quit date?? i would start some vit NOW as they take a few days to work check the thomas recipe and get some of the stuff. Also u will have to cancel ANY chances of getitng ANY scripts when the tempptaion gets bad its too easy to cave in make them UNAVAILABLE to u... blessings to u and i will wait to here back Ann it a HUGE help to i have been talking to her for a while and she is great so just keep posting
as far as the w/d go u will be fine it is rough but we all have to go through it it helps us to remember NEVER to go back because of having to do it all over again. I would NOT take the ultram i took it for 5 days all it did was postpone the w/d and when it did come it came bad and i was only taking 2 ultram a day i got restlees legs SOOOOO bad when i stopped it. It may help a ltitle but u will still have to get off that and i heard it can be harder than getting off percs/vics... the clonidine and benzo should be enough jsut be careful w the benzo u dont want to switch one addiction to the other.. u kinda just have to take it as it comes and stay strong it wont be easy but u can post ur way through it everyone on here will walk w u through every min if u need it... i wish u the best i will keep checking in to see if u post so when is ur quit date?? i would start some vit NOW as they take a few days to work check the thomas recipe and get some of the stuff. Also u will have to cancel ANY chances of getitng ANY scripts when the tempptaion gets bad its too easy to cave in make them UNAVAILABLE to u... blessings to u and i will wait to here back Ann it a HUGE help to i have been talking to her for a while and she is great so just keep posting
I was worried about the same issues you are. Would I still be "the life of the party" after I quit using? I too became SUPERPARENT when I was high. At least in the beginning. After seven years of using it was all an illusion. I was remembering the early days, not realizing that "that guy" didn't exist anymore. All that was left was a tired, extremely irritable,moody guy who was merely getting by until his next script.
On top of all that, I have a very demanding job and thought there was NO WAY I could cope without my "little friends". One morning I woke up and said enough is enough and decided to quit. I told my wife I was ready to quit, and she was the one who found this wonderful website! I got a lot of advise, even more support and encouragement and posted constantly. ( If you ever get bored, read some of my early posts, you'll see what I mean)
You not only can do this, you will be extremely glad you did. The alternative is bleak. Continuing to use is not the answer. It can and will get so much worse if you keep taking that poison. I had been high for so long I had forgotten who I was. It took a little while but I like myself clean, and so does my wife and daughter.
Keep posting and have faith, you are not alone. A lot of really good people are here at all hours of the day...lean on them for awhile....
Oh and P.S. YOU don't have to be Supermom all the time...cut yourself some slack....you will like the person you become when the "yellow fog" clears...
On top of all that, I have a very demanding job and thought there was NO WAY I could cope without my "little friends". One morning I woke up and said enough is enough and decided to quit. I told my wife I was ready to quit, and she was the one who found this wonderful website! I got a lot of advise, even more support and encouragement and posted constantly. ( If you ever get bored, read some of my early posts, you'll see what I mean)
You not only can do this, you will be extremely glad you did. The alternative is bleak. Continuing to use is not the answer. It can and will get so much worse if you keep taking that poison. I had been high for so long I had forgotten who I was. It took a little while but I like myself clean, and so does my wife and daughter.
Keep posting and have faith, you are not alone. A lot of really good people are here at all hours of the day...lean on them for awhile....
Oh and P.S. YOU don't have to be Supermom all the time...cut yourself some slack....you will like the person you become when the "yellow fog" clears...
You will be there soon enough. I don't know if you will need any of this or not but check out the Thomas Recipe article in the bottom right hand of this page. Also read the article on Food That Increases Dopamine Naturally. This will help with the depression.
During my "flu" I ate a lot of bananas, apples, and toast. Drank a lot of water, gatorade and juice. Stock up on your favorite healthy foods.
During my "flu" I ate a lot of bananas, apples, and toast. Drank a lot of water, gatorade and juice. Stock up on your favorite healthy foods.
I meant my dr gives me scripts. I don't buy them illegally off the street or anything like that. I have never taken them to the point of passing out or anything like that either. Like I said, I just take them to get through work, to help get through family functions, to have more fun shopping and such. I know life will be very different when I am clean - I just wish I was there already!
Someone else said their doctor just gives them pills - how is it that doctors get these pills for free? Or did you mean your dr gave you a script?
Does ultram prolong WD? It is a complicated question. It is similar to a taper.
Now that I am clean I don't get excited over things but I didn't get excited over things when I was using. I don't have the brain fog and just "dull" feeling that I had when I was using. I was just "blah" when I was using. No emotion whatsoever. Only emotion I showed was anger and irritability.
Does ultram prolong WD? It is a complicated question. It is similar to a taper.
Now that I am clean I don't get excited over things but I didn't get excited over things when I was using. I don't have the brain fog and just "dull" feeling that I had when I was using. I was just "blah" when I was using. No emotion whatsoever. Only emotion I showed was anger and irritability.
That is kind of what I was wondering - will ultram just prolong the withdrawal? I really get no buzz from them so I was going to take them for the first 5 or so days and then just taper off which I know I can do. I don't spend a lot of money on the pills becasue I have a doc that gives them to me - talk about adding to the addiction (not blaming - I know this is my fault). I will be out of pills come Wednesday/Thursday.
How do you feel now that you are clean? Do you still get excited over things and want to do things like you did when on the meds?
How do you feel now that you are clean? Do you still get excited over things and want to do things like you did when on the meds?
I too used to feel good from the pills, used to be able to work for hours, be the life of the party, cut the grass, clean the house and it turns on you. I became a lazy procrastinator. I did nothing but sit in a chair and watch tv. Didn't want to talk to anyone or go anywhere. I was depressed all the time.
The getting scripts and going to the pharmacy merry go round is a stressor that I am glad to be done with. Do you spend a lot of money on pills?
Since you have a limited number of pills do you have a date in mind? I have taken ultram and didn't have any connection to it. It helped with WDs and that was it. I just hope you are right and don't get addicted to it.
Since you didn't feel too sick by taking the ultram why don't you just start with your CT when you are done your Percs, go to work as usual and if you start to feel badly, go home sick. No reason not to go into work if you feel ok. I am thinking that you might start to feel badly when you run out of Ultram and may need to call in sick then.
The getting scripts and going to the pharmacy merry go round is a stressor that I am glad to be done with. Do you spend a lot of money on pills?
Since you have a limited number of pills do you have a date in mind? I have taken ultram and didn't have any connection to it. It helped with WDs and that was it. I just hope you are right and don't get addicted to it.
Since you didn't feel too sick by taking the ultram why don't you just start with your CT when you are done your Percs, go to work as usual and if you start to feel badly, go home sick. No reason not to go into work if you feel ok. I am thinking that you might start to feel badly when you run out of Ultram and may need to call in sick then.
Yes, I have taken Ultram instead of percocet before (when I have run out) and actually did not feel too bad. I went C/T once before for like 4 days where I took just ultram and klonopin and I think it was more in my head than anything because I felt ok but I was so afraid withdrawal was going to hit - it was like I made myself worse than I actually was if that makes any sense. I too have depression because of the recent loss of my brother (which has led to an increase in useage - ironically he too was addicted to pills and that is what he passed from). I just love the buzz and feel more energized and get better ideas at work etc. I am worried about losing all that and then always comparing it to what it was like when I was using. I am more talkitive, more happy go lucky, etc. Yes, I do have a limited # of pills where I will run out and force me into withdrawal. I have decided that this time I want to be the last time. I am tired of counting pills and worrying about what to do when I run out. I get so crabby when I know I am almost out. I just don't remember what life was like before the pills. I am just so scared.
ok - have you ever gone a day without percocet and just took ultram? I had Clonidine but did not have ultram. After day 5 I had some issues with my energy level and depression but i have always had depression issues so I don't want to influence you too much even though depression is a major symptom of withdrawal. Don't be scared. You need to do this. You cannot go on using the amount that you are. There are so many wonderful people on this forum. You will be amazed at the love and support here. I will ask my friend newlifeahead to stop by and give you some encouragement. Since you have clonidine and ultram you are way ahead of the game. I basically laid in bed for 4 days. You will need to prepare for your "flu". Do you have a limited number of pills where you have to pick a date?
To answer your question, I have some bad days but in general I am less depressed now that I am clean. I do still get depressed but it is a different type of depression. I don't have that brain fog that you get when using. I would knock things over, run into things, be forgetful, slur my words, drop things. I was also very very moody and fight with my husband. I feel like I look different. I had a "grey" look about me before> I just didn't look healthy. Always looked sad. In the majority of cases the worst is over after 5 days. Hope that helps.
To answer your question, I have some bad days but in general I am less depressed now that I am clean. I do still get depressed but it is a different type of depression. I don't have that brain fog that you get when using. I would knock things over, run into things, be forgetful, slur my words, drop things. I was also very very moody and fight with my husband. I feel like I look different. I had a "grey" look about me before> I just didn't look healthy. Always looked sad. In the majority of cases the worst is over after 5 days. Hope that helps.
1 of my kids is school age but the other is not in school yet. My husband does not know either. After day 5 did you feel better? I work also and cannot take 5 days off work. I can take a couple days off and hope to start over the weekend. I am scared, afraid, sad, depressed - all these emotions rolled into 1. How is it now that you are clean? Did you take anything through your withdrawal?
Have you ever tried CT before? The ultram and clonidine will help. as long as you think you won't get addicted to the ultram. Do you work? You will have flu symptoms for about 3 - 5 days. I did this on my own and did not tell my husband. I told him i had the flu and he had to take care of our son except for when he went to work I had to take my son to and from school. Are your children school age? If not do you have someone to help you?
Thanks Ann. I don't really have a plan. I just need to go cold turkey. I am not strong enough to do anything else. I will take the ultram and clonodine to help with withdrawal symptoms. I would appreciate any suggestions. How long will this take?
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