Detox from pain medication

Question

Hello everyone
Okay so here's my story.....3 Back surgeries later, (I won't bore you with all the boring details)  3 years since my first,  1.5 since my last being a fusion.  I have held and fought to not take oxymoron from the beginning because it was surely justified.  My husband had a horrible life threatening reaction.  Needless to say he is very opposed to me taking meds.  After my last surgery I tried several medications to cover the pain.  My doctor would not ever give me more than 4 10mg. Norco per day.   He would give me stronger but no more than 4 per day.  Most of the stronger medications made me feel depressed with suicidal thoughts.  I took oxycodone for a short period of time after my last surgery then took myself off after 6 weeks.  I felt like I was going to die.  It was the most horrible thing I've ever experienced.   I did have to get back on meds because it was just too soon and I couldn't function with the pain.  I'm also a type 1 diabetic which adds complications.  In hindsight it was a good thing because I was able to reduce my tolerance to Norco again.    I have had intolerable pain for most of the year and a half after the fusion. I have struggled with trying to make 4 Norco work.  I got desperate over the holidays because I knew being a pastry chef with lots of orders I would very in trouble with pain.  My dr. Also wanted to give my organs a break from Tylenol so he prescribed 10 mg. Oxymoron 4 x per day.  I did that for 3 weeks then started feeling bad so he reduced me to 7.5mg.  I took that for v another 3 weeks until I couldn't take the depression any more. (Not to mention the desire to end my life)

Three weeks ago I had an ablation therapy procedure.   I am happy to say that it has given me relief.  I finally have pain I feel like I can live with. It is supposed to work for up to 2 years.  This I feel will give me time to get stronger and healthier.   The only problem now is that 4 Norco does not cover me for withdrawal. 5 doesn't either.  I had no idea that  oxymoron was so much stronger.  What do I do?   I have called my dr. 3 times.   They take so long to respond.  I'm going to run out because I can't stand the way I feel when I take 4.   Any suggestions?  Miracle cures? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. 

Thank you
Di.

VICourageous · Answer

Hi Again!

Are you just trying to get down from those other meds and then take some as needed for pain???

The thing about opiates is that they block many Receptors and one of them is the Endorphin (morphine inside) so when we come off these meds it takes awhile for ALL those Brain Chems to balance back. Most of us had experienced Re-bound pain..which means the pain is worse
as we are detoxing. It will get way better.
There are many reason why one can become Addicted to these meds too. Therefore, if we do have a Addicting Brain or Chemistry we can not just take them as needed unless we have them handed out to us. These meds will also knock down many "happy chems" and we need time to heal and spark back up. (sorta speaking). When we use these for other reason, and there are many, the pleasure part (survival part) will remember this pleasure and use every excuse in the world to use again & again. NOT everyone becomes Addicted and like I said there are many reason why we do. YOU will be really surprised how much better you might be able to control your pain without these pain pills. MANY of us have to control are pain in other ways because of the Addiction issues. Set yourself up for Success. 
Outside face to face Support for Addiction is VERY important. 

Start drinking TONS of water and other drinks that have electrolytes in them. Pick up some good vit/min. Some vit/min you can use for sleep/anxiety and others for energy. Pick up some Protien powder and add to some berries. The Protein and Amino-acids (all the L-s) are great for the Brain. Get that immune system in high gear, so it will be healthy enough to ease up the w/ds. YOU still will go through w/ds, but maybe not as intense or long if you try now to flush these toxins and have some great vit/min in you. Eat very Healthy too.
Maybe pick up some Airborne or Emergen-C. I notice they have a good immune system one and electrolyte one. I take these now because I can add to water. However, I still order really good vit/min that are more plant based and not full of different fillers. If you take some Epsom salt bath this will help relax you and draw out those toxins. I do wish you the best and YES it has been a bit slow around here. Just keep checking your post and read other postings that come around. Join in and this will help you along the way too.
Bless
Vickie

Danny111 · Answer

Night was always the worst for me.  Not being able to sleep stinks as does lying there with nothing to do but think about how crappy you feel and how bad everything is.  You just have to keep reminding yourself that those thoughts are just the wds and not your real thoughts.  Every minute you get through moves you a minute closer to being clean.

Chefs · Answer

Ms. Delight
I'm not really interested in suboxone.  I don't know anything about it.  Do you know much about methadone?    I'm also worried about being labeled as a drug addict with my insurance company or doctors office.  I'm trying to come down a tad more before I go cold turkey so it's not so horrible. I'm down to 5 a day and it's hard.  The night time seems to be the hardest.   Really stinks.

Chefs · Answer

I'm sorry.  My notepad has a mind of its own.   It got sent before I was finished.  Anyways.  I am coming off of the meds but I'm in pain still and am trying to deal with it.  I have not been completely honest with how c bad it still hurts.  It is better but I want to have a choice of taking a pill because I'm in need of one and not because I have to in order to not go through WD.

Chefs · Answer

Hello Spooky
Thank you for your reply.  My doctor will not prescribe any of the medications that are typically given to come off of pain meds.  He is strict which I am grateful for ( at times .) Lol.  I feel like he has me coming off og

msdelight · Answer

Please avoid suboxone and subutex. While it is very appropriate for herion and dilaudid being used IV, it is way too much for pill addiction.  Its like using a shotgun to kill a fly. Just CT. Get hylands restless legs at Walgreens or any drug store. Or ask for some (3) Valium.  Its a mind game. Just do it and its over in a week. Subs may mess with your sugar levels.

spookyxmulder · Answer

I was on heroin and dilaudids etc in and out of rehabs and nothing worked for me. I've been on 8mg suboxone sublingual daily for 18 months and it's the only thing to get no withdrawal and no cravings(actually at time in did the withdrawal by myself and stayed off awhile so I could get high on suboxone and to this day it still gives me a little relief still) but it's amazing and nothing takes away cravings like that. If u want to message me I'll give u my number so we can talk

Danny111 · Answer

Hey Chefs, as msdelight said above noone is blacklisted.  Things are just slow on this site these days so you will wait a bit for replies.  This may not make you feel much better but just know that the fear of the wd's is almost always worse than the actuality.  They certainly suck but they're over with before long.

Chefs · Answer

I was beginning to wonder if I have a blacklist on my name.  I swear I never get replies.  It's a bit discouraging.  That being said.   I was taking oxycodone and asked to be taken off because it made me feel bad.  I also told my doctor that I wanted to taper off.  He gave me 10mg. Norco and I'm feeling awful.   It takes 6 to 7 to not feel bad.  I didn't know it was so much stronger than Norco.
I'm going to run out and I'm scared  to go thru withdrawals again.  It was horrible.   I have type 1 diabetes and it makes things much worse. What do you suggest I do?

VICourageous · Answer

Hi Di and Welcome!
Sorry no one caught this but it has been a bit on the slow side of life lately..SO you want to get completely off these meds right??
The best thing to do is to talk with the DR about a Taper plan. If you do taper it would be best for someone to hide these pills and hand them out to you by Dr request. The DR can also give you some comfort meds. Other wise we do home detoxes all the time on here. Just want to make sure you are still around.

Check back in if you can with a update.
Bless
Vickie

Chefs · Answer

I apologize for the misspelled words. Love that auto spell. I mean oxycodone. I also didn't mention but I'm absolutely terrified of going thru withdrawals. I keep hearing it's much to do with attitude. Ugh!