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Detoxing off Methadone is vellum going to help?
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I have been on methadone for 3 1/2 years, started out at 85 mg detoxed down to 1 mg took me about a year. I sat at 12 mg for awhille and after my wedding rushed to tapper -2 mg a week. i am not feeling the best but i am not dying, i am just a little nervous cuz i know what kicking this stuff feels like i kicked 85mg cold turkey once before. So i am getting some 10mg vellum and i have clondine & phenegran. i wanted to know if this would help a bit and how much of the vellum one would take if in my postion. I am not a risk of getting addicted to pills never have been my plan is just to sleep this off, i hate restless legs and not being able to sleep and constant having to run to the restroom i just want to avoid this. Once this is over and i dont have to depend on this i will be so grateful.
I have been on methadone for 3 1/2 years, started out at 85 mg detoxed down to 1 mg took me about a year. I sat at 12 mg for awhille and after my wedding rushed to tapper -2 mg a week. i am not feeling the best but i am not dying, i am just a little nervous cuz i know what kicking this stuff feels like i kicked 85mg cold turkey once before. So i am getting some 10mg vellum and i have clondine & phenegran. i wanted to know if this would help a bit and how much of the vellum one would take if in my postion. I am not a risk of getting addicted to pills never have been my plan is just to sleep this off, i hate restless legs and not being able to sleep and constant having to run to the restroom i just want to avoid this. Once this is over and i dont have to depend on this i will be so grateful.
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HI....I wa on methadone for 6 1/2 yrs I tapered my self off in 8 1/2 mo down to 1mg its still no walk in the park jumping off expect t be dope sick for 7 days then some lingering symptoms for around 2 weeks....you have been on it for a wile its not so much the withdrawal but the post withdrawal thats tuff coming off methadone I was just plain sick for the first month then 60 day was a little better it was around 90 days that I finley turned the corner and started to get well I also recommend the protein shakes from walmart the main thing they got is essential amino acids as well as vitamins and the protein you cant feed your brain enough of this stuff after detoxing as for you plan to sleep threw withdrawals you will be lucky to sleep at all even with meds coming off methadone is ruff the valum will help with the anxiety but use it sparingly it has its own set of vises I have helped several people detox of this stuff so if you have any questions or need help or support Im out here to help good luck and God bless....Gnarly
hi the initial withdrawal will last arond 7 to 10 days but it is the post withdrawal that makes methadone such a monster to kick you get hit with an energy crash that is debilitating this can last 3 mo and your sleep will be disrupted for 2 mo so you got to be in it for the long haul I dont sugar coat it kicking methadone in a mofo but with some perseverance and determination it can be don im clean 2 yr 3mo but will never forget what I went threw if you need more info just ask or send me a message good lock and God bless......Gnarly
HI and welcome to the forum.....detoxing off 155 mg in 30 days is going to make you feel like you got ran over by a truck.....im not saying it cant be done people have done it but as you get into the lower doses the withdrawals are going to get bad I detoxed off 150 and it took me 8 1/2 mo and I did it fast compared to most...I went in and out of withdrawals along the way
some wost then others but it was always when I was trying to go to fast I would rethink this and sit down with your conslor and set up a more realistic taper plan....we will support you in what ever you decide im just trying to set you up for success what your trying has a very high failure rate keep posting for support good luck and God bless.....Gnarly
some wost then others but it was always when I was trying to go to fast I would rethink this and sit down with your conslor and set up a more realistic taper plan....we will support you in what ever you decide im just trying to set you up for success what your trying has a very high failure rate keep posting for support good luck and God bless.....Gnarly
im detoxing off 155mg methdone im on a 30 day detox im allready down to 110mg and i must say i have not had any pain yet but i have had the sweats im afraid i pray that god will carry me through this i hate iever got on this **** . and to top it off im in a realtioship of ten years and my wife do not jnow that im drinking meth done and it its driving me crazy we have hda plenty of fall out's about it because she say i be nodding off and stuff any how she assume that she know what im doing but that anit good eough for me she will have to catch me drinking the methdone .any how i want to tell her that im detoxing off of it now and i need her support but i cant because she will leave me and that's why i did not tell her any how so now i dont know what to do because to day we got into it about it and she said that she know i be going to the progam because a peolpe that she know goes there and they saw me and told her and also she been knowing for about a month what i been doing any how i dont know what to do .im afraid about not been sussecful at detoxing im afraid she going to leave i ean at this moment i need her to be there for me and not beat me up or tear me down.can i get some feed back plz. from any one that might can help me .
I've been on Methadone after many failed attempts to straighten my back out. I've gone through seven back operations, two fusions, and finally a Pedicile with Screw Fixation. Well, needless to say I was one of these people who kept going back to worl after each surgery. Needless to say after this last Operation, I was RETIRED at 44 years old. I did a lot of soul searching and thinking I was a total failure for letting my Family down. Boy, that just took the wind out of my sails!
But something still had to be done, so they did a Spinal Implant that was supposed to kill the extreme pain in my back and legs. Needless to say the Doctor who did this lied about his experience putting these implants in, and made my situation worse than it was before. I ended back in the same Hospital the very next day having this Spinal Implant removed.
I was at the end of my rope by that time. The best way for me to beat this extreme pain according to the same Pain Doctor who did this Spinal Implant said for me to be put on Methadone!
I have been on this crap for almost 10 years. Finally I decided I wanted off of this stuff. By the Grace of God, I never took all of the methadone they told me I needed to take. I was supposed to take 80 mg per day, but took 40mg per day.
Three weeks ago I started tapering figuring it wouldn't be that bad? I mean, only 40 mg, whats the big deal? WRONG!
When I first quit completely I was fine for a day of so, and I could actually stay awake for more than 12 hours a day. I was STOKED! Then it got to the point when I laid my head down at night to sleep. I couldn't! I finally called my Pain Doctor (A different one than the quack I was dealing with) the issued me .25 mg of Xanex to battle this until I go and see her at the end of the month.
My question is this. I see Vitimin B Complex and Amino Acids, What else are good to take for battling this anxity!
Thanks!
But something still had to be done, so they did a Spinal Implant that was supposed to kill the extreme pain in my back and legs. Needless to say the Doctor who did this lied about his experience putting these implants in, and made my situation worse than it was before. I ended back in the same Hospital the very next day having this Spinal Implant removed.
I was at the end of my rope by that time. The best way for me to beat this extreme pain according to the same Pain Doctor who did this Spinal Implant said for me to be put on Methadone!
I have been on this crap for almost 10 years. Finally I decided I wanted off of this stuff. By the Grace of God, I never took all of the methadone they told me I needed to take. I was supposed to take 80 mg per day, but took 40mg per day.
Three weeks ago I started tapering figuring it wouldn't be that bad? I mean, only 40 mg, whats the big deal? WRONG!
When I first quit completely I was fine for a day of so, and I could actually stay awake for more than 12 hours a day. I was STOKED! Then it got to the point when I laid my head down at night to sleep. I couldn't! I finally called my Pain Doctor (A different one than the quack I was dealing with) the issued me .25 mg of Xanex to battle this until I go and see her at the end of the month.
My question is this. I see Vitimin B Complex and Amino Acids, What else are good to take for battling this anxity!
Thanks!
HI well your doing it and making it threw it....the first month is the tuffest ....drink the protein drinks they help get you well quicker.....coming off methadone is a gradual process with many curves you will have your good days but also bad days as you get farther along you will get more and more good days just be pacent with the recovery methadone is really hard on your system and takes a wile to come off of you can try vitimin B-complex it helps with the energy for some....look up the amino acid protacal on the lower right of this screen they will help with the energy also....read up on the thomas recipe you will find it also in the lower right of this page it gives you specific amino's for energy....for me it took a good 90 days to start feeling better I hope it goes quicker for you but 90 days is typical try not to get discouraged you are healing its just slower then we like as addicts we want it and want it now just know it is so so worth it when its said and done...you will get threw this and I will keep you in my prayers good luck and God bless......Gnarly
ah yeah back checking up agian.. I said i am doing well i am. The thing that is annoying is the sleep my energy if i do sleep i sleep during the day. Doc prescribed me Trazadone to sleep, mind you i hate this sleep med, but its not helping at all last night i took 100mg of trazadone 5mg of Valium, and a clondine. I am Highly annoyed keeping my husband up and i cant seem to keep my part of the bargain in house hold crap, cuz day time i am so exhausted. I am also finding myself very deppresed, dont like being this way.
OKAY positive things are off the methadone, i am over the worst of the withdraw symptoms, and i am doing a lot of praying and going to church, oh and the monkey on the back has not jumped on me and hopefully wont i have not had craving to go back to heroin at this time its just not an option for me. I know i am powerless over this but i am standing strong and i admit i am not above relapse but i can stay sober if i chose today. I have a good family and even thou my husband has never touched a drug in his life, well besides weed here and there he fully supports me. So i do have a lot to be grateful for...
I just want my sleep, and feel energy, and not so gloomy.
On the 15th it will be a month i believe, Feb 15.
OKAY positive things are off the methadone, i am over the worst of the withdraw symptoms, and i am doing a lot of praying and going to church, oh and the monkey on the back has not jumped on me and hopefully wont i have not had craving to go back to heroin at this time its just not an option for me. I know i am powerless over this but i am standing strong and i admit i am not above relapse but i can stay sober if i chose today. I have a good family and even thou my husband has never touched a drug in his life, well besides weed here and there he fully supports me. So i do have a lot to be grateful for...
I just want my sleep, and feel energy, and not so gloomy.
On the 15th it will be a month i believe, Feb 15.
I am doing really good.. the meds helped alot... geez i don't know how long its been now that i am off it.. I just get the little chills a bit leg aches and like right now i cant sleep but i dont want to keep taking that Valium cuz well ya know, dont need another thing on my back. Praying alot and went to church this morning, i just feel very blessed to be able to say i did it and sober for today. Its a blessing for my daughter and guy too.
Thank You Gnarly for checking up on me, that is awesome... its cool to see people care and support people like i see on these forums.
Abel, i am sorry you have to go through that my only option to offer you is a methadone clinic which are sorry to say Not a place you probably want to go if your is for chronic pain but it just might be your only option if you dont want to drive 2 hrs to get what you need. Methadone is a hard drug to come off not sugar coat it, withdraw will be long and very uncomfortable if you just cold turkey a high amount of mg's. I do know though if you do have to end up going to a methadone clinic you can work up yourself to a level where you can get take out so you dont have to go every morning/day to get what you need... they just require you stay sober some require groups so many a month or week. I wish you luck and hope you find a solution to your problem.
Moxie!
Thank You Gnarly for checking up on me, that is awesome... its cool to see people care and support people like i see on these forums.
Abel, i am sorry you have to go through that my only option to offer you is a methadone clinic which are sorry to say Not a place you probably want to go if your is for chronic pain but it just might be your only option if you dont want to drive 2 hrs to get what you need. Methadone is a hard drug to come off not sugar coat it, withdraw will be long and very uncomfortable if you just cold turkey a high amount of mg's. I do know though if you do have to end up going to a methadone clinic you can work up yourself to a level where you can get take out so you dont have to go every morning/day to get what you need... they just require you stay sober some require groups so many a month or week. I wish you luck and hope you find a solution to your problem.
Moxie!
HEY Dude just checking up on you are you still at 1mg or did you make the jump off yet???
anyways where out here for ya keep us posted on how this goes for ya.......Gnarly
anyways where out here for ya keep us posted on how this goes for ya.......Gnarly
Im not sure where you live, but to my knowledge, only certain dr can prescribe methadone because it is so dangerous and addiciting. I'm my area, there are 2 doctors out of about 80 that can write the scripts. We are 3 hours from another town that has dr that can prescribe methadone too.
I have been on methadone for 5 years on and off, and it has been tough on me and my family. i have just recently moved 2 hours away from my home town and my doctor who prescribes me the methadone. My biggest fear is that he will no longer see me because I have moved out of town. He is an old fashioned doctor and I heard that he will only see people that live in town or real close to town. I'm afraid to tell him I have moved because I don't want to have the pain of withdrawls and finding a new doctor to prescribe it to me. I have called several doctors down here where I live and no one will help me . As soon as they ask me what meds I take and I tell them I take methadone for chronic pain, they say we don't prescribe that here. I just do not know what to do anymore. Not only that I have to make a 2 hour drive up to my doctors office just to pick up my script for methadone. he will not write it out onced a month,because I asked him.does anyone out there have any suggestions? thanks, J.L.A
Thank so much for the response i will deffinitly get some of the protein shakes. Yeah i have about 22 valiums and lots of clonidine. i have noticed i am very weak from the clonidine. so i figure i will take the vailum in the morning and nite just to help take the edge off. i have been kinda of going through it already i really felt the drop from 2mg to 1mg. my mind is a bit all over the place and yeah i just have the on edge feeling but its not the worse at all if its going to be like this i can deffinitly handle it. i handle going down from 85 to 1 pretty good better then expected so i hope that i surprise myself and get teh same results coming off this stuff. Ty agian for the advice it deffinitly is useful.
congrats on your 31 dys vantart.
congrats on your 31 dys vantart.
Do you mean valium?I've gone cold turkey a few times time from 80mgs and it was the worst thing I have ever gone thru.I tapered down from 80 mg to 10mg then took suboxone for 4 days before jumping off.It was still no walk in the park. I went to the hospital once after stopping at the 80 mg level. They gave me 5 valium and sent me home, The doc said "you may feel like you're going to die, but you won't die from the withdrawals". I was not very encouraged by that.
Yes, I'd say the valium will help with the anxiety. Use them sparingly though. I hear benzo are a real nightmare to get off as well. The clondine was given to me also once while in detox to keep my blood pressure down. It made me feel really weak. I almost fell once walking down the stairs. My legs felt very wobbly. They took me off it and gave me something else. Don't know anything about phenegran. I'd get some protein shakes with a lot of amino acids (brain building stuff). They have it at Walmart for less then $20. Drink 2 or 3 a day. Also get some valerian and/or kava tea. to help stay calm.
Melatonin and advil pm helped me get about 3 hrs sleep a nite after the first 2 days.
I think tapering helps, some don't. I've done both. Its still hard and last a while but not quite as bad as going cold turkey from that level. Best to you! Day 29 - 4 me
Yes, I'd say the valium will help with the anxiety. Use them sparingly though. I hear benzo are a real nightmare to get off as well. The clondine was given to me also once while in detox to keep my blood pressure down. It made me feel really weak. I almost fell once walking down the stairs. My legs felt very wobbly. They took me off it and gave me something else. Don't know anything about phenegran. I'd get some protein shakes with a lot of amino acids (brain building stuff). They have it at Walmart for less then $20. Drink 2 or 3 a day. Also get some valerian and/or kava tea. to help stay calm.
Melatonin and advil pm helped me get about 3 hrs sleep a nite after the first 2 days.
I think tapering helps, some don't. I've done both. Its still hard and last a while but not quite as bad as going cold turkey from that level. Best to you! Day 29 - 4 me
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