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For those considering Weismann methos or other Rapid Detox...
Before I get into my story, please let me say this..... I beg you to think long and hard about undergoing Weismann.
I had the Weismann procedure done at the Garden Grove, CA facility in 2006. It was the most torturous thing I have ever gone through in my life. I am not discrediting Weismann or other rapid detox companies themselves as I was taken very good care of rather the concept is the issue...
I underwent many blood tests EKG's medical history forms and whatnot two days prior to the procedure. I was checked into the hospital the night before, and given a morphine drip to hold back wd's. I guess they do this so they can monitor my drug intake for 24 hours prior.
I was taken down to the ICU at 0900. I was given a mild sedative Versed while they made preparations.... I was inducted under anesthesia using propofol, and pancuronium, and another dose of Versed. I was intubated, and then given the injections.... I woke up somewhere around 1400 and I felt like my heart had been ripped from my chest.... I felt just downright aweful.....
I was transported back to the medical observation unit where I was given clonidine, ativan, and zofran.... To help with any "Residual wd's" as they call them....
I was discharged with a script for Revia four days later.....
I was miserable throughout my hospital stay.... Much worse than any ct that I have ever gone through.... Hell I ct'd off fentanyl far mosr comfortably than this...
The days to come were much much worse. I got home and All I could do was cry asking myself why I went through this miserable procedure. I was vomiting uncontrollably, stomach upset, chills, sweating, the works.... just seemed to all be amplified from any ct I have done before.
The real ***** was the PAWS.... It was unbearable, depression was constant, from time to time I would get rebound wd's, flashbacks.... bad news.
This went on for a year and a half and I finally sought help elsewhere.... I was diagnosed with Post traumatic stress disorder... believed to be brought on by the trauma my body underwent during rapid detox.
At the time I was in the medical field finishing my first year of Medical school.... I had tried NA, methadone, everything but I could never get through the wd stage. Psychologically, I was ok. I worked around the stuff all day, no cravings, but when those wd's came... damn. I mean still no cravings, but I just couldnt handle physically being sick like that with work and school.... Which is what brought me to Weismann....
I paid $14,600 for my treatment, and was left with misery. Please think long and hard before doing this guys.... You will still be an addict after its over, just a sicker one.
Oh btw, the PTSD and PAWS I couldnt take so I ended up relapsing again... this started everything back up. I am now on suboxone 1mg daily and decreasing. No wd's, no cravings.... Things are good.
Be careful everyone,
Henry
I had the Weismann procedure done at the Garden Grove, CA facility in 2006. It was the most torturous thing I have ever gone through in my life. I am not discrediting Weismann or other rapid detox companies themselves as I was taken very good care of rather the concept is the issue...
I underwent many blood tests EKG's medical history forms and whatnot two days prior to the procedure. I was checked into the hospital the night before, and given a morphine drip to hold back wd's. I guess they do this so they can monitor my drug intake for 24 hours prior.
I was taken down to the ICU at 0900. I was given a mild sedative Versed while they made preparations.... I was inducted under anesthesia using propofol, and pancuronium, and another dose of Versed. I was intubated, and then given the injections.... I woke up somewhere around 1400 and I felt like my heart had been ripped from my chest.... I felt just downright aweful.....
I was transported back to the medical observation unit where I was given clonidine, ativan, and zofran.... To help with any "Residual wd's" as they call them....
I was discharged with a script for Revia four days later.....
I was miserable throughout my hospital stay.... Much worse than any ct that I have ever gone through.... Hell I ct'd off fentanyl far mosr comfortably than this...
The days to come were much much worse. I got home and All I could do was cry asking myself why I went through this miserable procedure. I was vomiting uncontrollably, stomach upset, chills, sweating, the works.... just seemed to all be amplified from any ct I have done before.
The real ***** was the PAWS.... It was unbearable, depression was constant, from time to time I would get rebound wd's, flashbacks.... bad news.
This went on for a year and a half and I finally sought help elsewhere.... I was diagnosed with Post traumatic stress disorder... believed to be brought on by the trauma my body underwent during rapid detox.
At the time I was in the medical field finishing my first year of Medical school.... I had tried NA, methadone, everything but I could never get through the wd stage. Psychologically, I was ok. I worked around the stuff all day, no cravings, but when those wd's came... damn. I mean still no cravings, but I just couldnt handle physically being sick like that with work and school.... Which is what brought me to Weismann....
I paid $14,600 for my treatment, and was left with misery. Please think long and hard before doing this guys.... You will still be an addict after its over, just a sicker one.
Oh btw, the PTSD and PAWS I couldnt take so I ended up relapsing again... this started everything back up. I am now on suboxone 1mg daily and decreasing. No wd's, no cravings.... Things are good.
Be careful everyone,
Henry
I'm not sure about some of these testimonies. My son was at the waismann clinic in california for rapid detox and they really saved his life. We actually found out he had a medical condition that we were not aware of. He has been through multiple rehabs and the last one he vomited so much, he ended up in the hospital dehydrated and with low potassium. Thank God I spoke to him and took him to the hospital or he would have had a heart attack.
From that moment, I looked for a place that was a real hospital with real doctors. We found the Waismann and my son is doing great. He is back in school, sees a therapist and seems to be on his way to a healthy life. So all I need to say is maybe is not perfect, but I have not found a better drug treatment and I looked for years.
From that moment, I looked for a place that was a real hospital with real doctors. We found the Waismann and my son is doing great. He is back in school, sees a therapist and seems to be on his way to a healthy life. So all I need to say is maybe is not perfect, but I have not found a better drug treatment and I looked for years.
I was a current patient at a rapid detox center. It was the most awful experience I have ever been through $23,000 later, insurance won't cover it. I asked the head doc about getting me out and flight home. They kept me in the ICU for 3 days and it was hell. I developed colitis, via CT scan. When I asked about am I getting any of this money refunded back? Well you used it all up in the ICU now. Is that my fault? No way . I have never been sicker in my life. Bad bad bad choice ....
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It was at the Waismann method. Santa Ana , CA.... I still have a weird pain in my right side of kidney. They loaded me up with Toradol injections around the clock for almost 4 days ... Very hard on you. I lost nearly 35 lbs in 4 days.... I still feel horrible and the procedure took place back on Sept ,4. The doc accommodated me after ICU and told me I could go to their domus retreat or just go home. I booked the quickest flight out of there. The doc went out of his way to put me back upstairs out of ICU and was admitted under another doc care so I could actually make the flight home. The ICU was torture .... Never ever again.. Much better proven alternatives that work without putting your heart, brain and entire body under the most extreme stress it can take. It was very dangerous ...
My dad is at Waismann rt now & is doing horribly! He sd when they sedated him he did not go all the way out & felt the whole thing! Then he saw a guy in a room next to him goninto convulsions & the nurses just sat there & watched! Didnt check his vitals or call for a doc to come.
The doc told him on the phone he would be at the hospital for @ least 2 days before being moved to the aftercare home, he was there for exactly 25 hrs, & told them he wasn't ready to leave & begged them not to release him yet & so did my mom. My dad was looking for a facility that doesn't use naltrexone, & the doc told him over the phone that they "didn't ". He got down there after driving 654 miles & the dr. denied saying that & sd, "well I don't know what you expected". Back at the aftercare home the guy sd that they lie to everyone about what the actual detox in tails & then just ship them over to the aftercare facility to deal with.
The doc told him on the phone he would be at the hospital for @ least 2 days before being moved to the aftercare home, he was there for exactly 25 hrs, & told them he wasn't ready to leave & begged them not to release him yet & so did my mom. My dad was looking for a facility that doesn't use naltrexone, & the doc told him over the phone that they "didn't ". He got down there after driving 654 miles & the dr. denied saying that & sd, "well I don't know what you expected". Back at the aftercare home the guy sd that they lie to everyone about what the actual detox in tails & then just ship them over to the aftercare facility to deal with.
Two years ago, I found out my son was addicted to opiates. With much research, I believed that rapid detox was the most humane way to detox. I further found out that all rapid detox centers are not alike. With safety as my biggest concern, I spent the additional money for what I felt was the best rapid detox center- Waismann Method... My son was treated in an intensive care unit in an accredited hospital (3 days), and then proceeded to their aftercare center (Domus Retreat) for four days of medical monitoring, therapy etc... The less expensive option I passed on was a similar medical treatment done in a surgery center, and then the patient was sent back to a hotel to manage himself the medications they provided. All I can say is I do not regret speeding the money, my son is clean two years later, and he did not suffer.
From what I have learned about Rapid Detox...make sure the procedure is done in a hospital, preferably an IC Unit, and not in a surgery center. Make sure you are not sent to a hotel after procedure, but remain in the hospital or sent to an aftercare for monitoring for a few days. Places like Michigan charge much less by cutting back on safety!
My son really wants to give the rapid detox a go and we have looked at what we be closest for us and have found 2 in Detroit, Michigan. Has anyone heard of Clarity or MDS clinics in Detroit, Michigan.
He has tried everything to detox off of methadone!
He has tried everything to detox off of methadone!
Sorry for the typos, friends lol btw i am 29 and i was dependent for 6 years before I did this.
I just completed the weisman method in LA California with doctor cliford Bernstein. I was on 160mg of liquid methadone IV from my local methadone clinc, and was shooting Oxycodone 30mg IR by the hand full. So I was an heavy opiate user in deed.. I flew a diract flight from nashville tenn. to LAX airport, aprox 3hour and 50 min flight. When I arrive a limo driver picked me up from the air port and drove me to Chapman Medical Center and as soon as I was admitted they put me on a morphine pump that I could control with by button to keep the withdraws away. The next morning I was taken to the ICU and given 3mg of xanax and 50 mg of SEROQUEL and put under anesthesia. Gave me an high dose of Naltrexone woke up around 20 hours later feeling kinda crappy but any one who is put under is not going to feel like a million dollars when they come out.. After it was all said and done they put me back in my room. WARNING if you think you have gas, It is NOT gas my friend. They pump bout 5 bags of saline in you and it has to come out some where. After I was awake enough they took me to the Domus Retreat witch is pretty much a mansion. The first day I slept and didnt come out of my room. The second day I was feeling so so.. but the entire time they were giving me meds for my stomach, xanax 0.5mg to help with sleep and more seroquel and a few other light drugs to help with the discomfort. and of course Naltrexone By day 3 I was golden still a little bit of loose stool but not one withdraw symptom.. I exp slight fatigue.. The rest of the time I was fine. I enjoyed in house acupuncture, massage and yoga. We had our own chief and all the amenity of home.. My exp was awesome and Its had been 4 days sense i was was detoxed. and I was back to 100%.. I was there a total of 10 days and it was the BEST 22K I ever spent! If you are on methadone I think this is your best option considering how long acting it is. I've been home now for 3 days and im feeling awesome and my energy level is back to normal. 4/25/2013
My son did the rapid detox recently (June 2012). It is not what it is described to be. There is value in it, but it is NOT a pain/discomfort free detox at all. This is what they do. They put you on a morphine drip as soon as possible after you arrive (in order to delay withdrawal). Then they do some testing to make sure you can handle the anesthetic. The morphine drip remains for almost the entire first day. You sleep over night, then the next day they administer what they describe as a light sedative that knocks you out. While you are asleep they administer a high dose of naltrexone and a high dose of clonidine and a high dose of seroquel...intravenously.
According to most posts about opiate WD, it lasts about 72-96 hours. And the peak is from 48-72 hours. So...they give you enough naltroxone to detox you quickly, but they drop you (take you out of sedation) at about 65-72 hours. So you wake up at the peak of WD. That's the bad news. The good news is you do not experience a WD that is constantly getting worse. You experience a WD that is absolutely horrible, but gets better constantly. Also the WD is much shorter (24 to 36 hours).
There were four people who transferred from the hospital to the recovery (rehab) after the rapid detox. Not one of them experienced a pain/discomfort free detox. ALL were quite sick after the rapid detox. It's difficult to know how much of the pain/sickness is from WD and how much is from the after effects of the anesthetic. My son had hallucinations from the high dose naltrexone. He was in severe WD pain/anxiety for almost 48 hours. They had to have a diaper on them for a while after the anesthetic.
This was our experience with the rapid detox in Los Angeles. The patient care once you are transferred from the hospital to the rehab centre declines. Although the staff at the rehab take very good care of you, the doctoral care diminishes and you might not even be given clonidine, because according to them "you are not experiencing a painful detox." The doctors are in denial about the amount of pain and discomfort the patients have, as it contradicts their claim of a pain free WD.
If you can't get through a 96 hour WD, and this is the only way you think you can do it, then go for it. Although anyone's claim of a pain free/easy WD is a delusion. There is still value in this, since it is the ONLY way some people can get through it. I believe this WAS the only way to get my son through it. But expect pain, expect anxiety, expect to wear a diaper, expect the doctors to ignore your pain/anxiety. But hang in there for the 36 hours and get through it. Nothing else worked for my son BUT THIS. But know it does not work as described.
According to most posts about opiate WD, it lasts about 72-96 hours. And the peak is from 48-72 hours. So...they give you enough naltroxone to detox you quickly, but they drop you (take you out of sedation) at about 65-72 hours. So you wake up at the peak of WD. That's the bad news. The good news is you do not experience a WD that is constantly getting worse. You experience a WD that is absolutely horrible, but gets better constantly. Also the WD is much shorter (24 to 36 hours).
There were four people who transferred from the hospital to the recovery (rehab) after the rapid detox. Not one of them experienced a pain/discomfort free detox. ALL were quite sick after the rapid detox. It's difficult to know how much of the pain/sickness is from WD and how much is from the after effects of the anesthetic. My son had hallucinations from the high dose naltrexone. He was in severe WD pain/anxiety for almost 48 hours. They had to have a diaper on them for a while after the anesthetic.
This was our experience with the rapid detox in Los Angeles. The patient care once you are transferred from the hospital to the rehab centre declines. Although the staff at the rehab take very good care of you, the doctoral care diminishes and you might not even be given clonidine, because according to them "you are not experiencing a painful detox." The doctors are in denial about the amount of pain and discomfort the patients have, as it contradicts their claim of a pain free WD.
If you can't get through a 96 hour WD, and this is the only way you think you can do it, then go for it. Although anyone's claim of a pain free/easy WD is a delusion. There is still value in this, since it is the ONLY way some people can get through it. I believe this WAS the only way to get my son through it. But expect pain, expect anxiety, expect to wear a diaper, expect the doctors to ignore your pain/anxiety. But hang in there for the 36 hours and get through it. Nothing else worked for my son BUT THIS. But know it does not work as described.
I think a definative statement that rapid detox doesnt work is somewhat misleading, especially as my own experiences contradict that assertion. Perhaps it didnt work for you, in which case im sorry, but The Waismann method worked for me. I dont say its guarenteed, but a success rate of ( i seem to remember) 65% still clean after one year would seem indicative of working more often than not.
You are right about one thing though, i was still sick afterwards. But having minor physical discomfort ( weakness, bowel irritation) for a day or so afterwards as opposed to the sickness i had for years before really doesnt compare. My opinion is based on my own experience and as such, as far as im concerned, is irrefutable.
I was dependent on painkillers and suboxone for about seven years, i did the procedure 4 1/2 years ago and have been clean and happy since. feel free to draw your own conclusions.
You are right about one thing though, i was still sick afterwards. But having minor physical discomfort ( weakness, bowel irritation) for a day or so afterwards as opposed to the sickness i had for years before really doesnt compare. My opinion is based on my own experience and as such, as far as im concerned, is irrefutable.
I was dependent on painkillers and suboxone for about seven years, i did the procedure 4 1/2 years ago and have been clean and happy since. feel free to draw your own conclusions.
wisman was 20 grand 2yrs ago save your mony detoxing is no worst then 4 days of the flu it is always worst in your head then it turns out to be in the 2+ yrs I have been on this forum I have only heard 1 good thing about wisman and im fairly certain it was a salesman most of the people say they where still sick after the procedure this is tyipical for narcotic detox it takes a little wile to feel good again rapid detox dosent work..............Gnarly
OK... we are now in Oct, 2011. I am looking into this method. It has been what four years now since your experience. Can you bring me up to speed, or anyone who has recently gone through this method?
I have been on V 750's for 7 years due to an accident in 2004. Now, I want out. I am tired of feeling like this. I don't use it for sport, I use it for pain and at this point I would rather deal with the back pain than the withdrawal pain of which has kept me laced into taking it.
I don't know what to do.
I don't know where to go get help and trying to do this myself is not working. I don't know what I am doing.
Being that said, anyone recently go through this method and have a success story. Maybe now four years later they have refined it. Also, I know there are others out there, but I would NOT use anyone others except the Waismann Method. The other methods do the procedure then you go off to either a hotel room or home which is completely non responsible of the treatment center offering this treatment.
Thank you......
Someone write me please...
I have been on V 750's for 7 years due to an accident in 2004. Now, I want out. I am tired of feeling like this. I don't use it for sport, I use it for pain and at this point I would rather deal with the back pain than the withdrawal pain of which has kept me laced into taking it.
I don't know what to do.
I don't know where to go get help and trying to do this myself is not working. I don't know what I am doing.
Being that said, anyone recently go through this method and have a success story. Maybe now four years later they have refined it. Also, I know there are others out there, but I would NOT use anyone others except the Waismann Method. The other methods do the procedure then you go off to either a hotel room or home which is completely non responsible of the treatment center offering this treatment.
Thank you......
Someone write me please...
The Weismann scam is just another "Hollywood Cure" ... it has more or less been roundly discredited by addiction experts, and, gee, it sure costs a lot.
And you wake up opiate-free, never to consider that you can play the same old game and "Weismann" yourself back out ... hucksters and thieves.
Not to suggest that other in-patient treatments don't help (you have to find somewhere that softens the suffering, but there will be some suffering, under medical supervision); but "rapid detox" ain't it ....
Bet those folks live nice lives, what with the cost they inflict on the desperate ...
And you wake up opiate-free, never to consider that you can play the same old game and "Weismann" yourself back out ... hucksters and thieves.
Not to suggest that other in-patient treatments don't help (you have to find somewhere that softens the suffering, but there will be some suffering, under medical supervision); but "rapid detox" ain't it ....
Bet those folks live nice lives, what with the cost they inflict on the desperate ...
You pointed out another one of my points in originally writing this post.
And thats that even if weismann or any other detox method was completely painless.... we are all still left as addicts. Without learning the tools to live daily life, we will fall back.
I received no aftercare with UROD, nor did I seek it out. The theory was that the oral revia that I was prescribed would be enough of a second line of defense. Looking back... a second line of defense for a just in case scenario is no longer an option as this is my life.
I learned that lesson hard with my UROD experience, and again the first time I tried to come off suboxone. It wasnt until I went back and did things right that I can say that I have 194 Clean days today!
Thanks for pointing that out!
Henry
And thats that even if weismann or any other detox method was completely painless.... we are all still left as addicts. Without learning the tools to live daily life, we will fall back.
I received no aftercare with UROD, nor did I seek it out. The theory was that the oral revia that I was prescribed would be enough of a second line of defense. Looking back... a second line of defense for a just in case scenario is no longer an option as this is my life.
I learned that lesson hard with my UROD experience, and again the first time I tried to come off suboxone. It wasnt until I went back and did things right that I can say that I have 194 Clean days today!
Thanks for pointing that out!
Henry
Wow,
Kind of crazy to see this old post surface again!
You are absolutely right my friend in that the experience is quite subjective to the individual! There are still many questions as to what actually happens once you go behind those doors of the ICU for a UROD procedure. My only goal was to tell of my experience... which is why I urged people to do their homework.
To be honest withdrawal period is subjective. Take for instance the horror stories that one often reads regarding suboxone treatment and withdrawal. My suboxone experience was quite a positive one, to the point I would do it all over again if I ever felt like I was veering off the track of recovery.
Thanks for posting, Im glad to hear that there are those out there that had a positive experience with UROD! As I wouldnt wish the hell I endured on my worst enemy... I take that back... Its EXACTLY what I would wish on my worst enemy! LOL
Hope you had a happy holiday.
Henry
Kind of crazy to see this old post surface again!
You are absolutely right my friend in that the experience is quite subjective to the individual! There are still many questions as to what actually happens once you go behind those doors of the ICU for a UROD procedure. My only goal was to tell of my experience... which is why I urged people to do their homework.
To be honest withdrawal period is subjective. Take for instance the horror stories that one often reads regarding suboxone treatment and withdrawal. My suboxone experience was quite a positive one, to the point I would do it all over again if I ever felt like I was veering off the track of recovery.
Thanks for posting, Im glad to hear that there are those out there that had a positive experience with UROD! As I wouldnt wish the hell I endured on my worst enemy... I take that back... Its EXACTLY what I would wish on my worst enemy! LOL
Hope you had a happy holiday.
Henry
Physical wd is not the hard part of stopping narcotics
It is not dangerous either as a rule unless u have a sever heart condition etc
If someone can afford this, then perhaps it is to somes advantage to do so
I personally, have not heard many good stories, but a couple. of positive ones...then they got home and mental wd hit them and the fun and fantastic experience was over.
as a rule this is expensive as heck....my physical wd lasted 3-4 days and the symptoms were mild altho I was imagining writhing on the floor and throwing up for days!
it was the aftermath that hit me hard....and is what causes relapse....aftercare is helping as u say this person is attempting aftercare. The ones i have spoken with who did this method were sent home with no aftercare at all.....Even with aftercare, relapse is possible, very possible, just a better chance of avoiding it with aftercare.
I am glad ur friend is doing well....it is just not the rule as physical wd is not the hardship of getting clean and definitely not the hardship of staying clean...it is the mental portion of addiction that will burn an addict everytime
It is not dangerous either as a rule unless u have a sever heart condition etc
If someone can afford this, then perhaps it is to somes advantage to do so
I personally, have not heard many good stories, but a couple. of positive ones...then they got home and mental wd hit them and the fun and fantastic experience was over.
as a rule this is expensive as heck....my physical wd lasted 3-4 days and the symptoms were mild altho I was imagining writhing on the floor and throwing up for days!
it was the aftermath that hit me hard....and is what causes relapse....aftercare is helping as u say this person is attempting aftercare. The ones i have spoken with who did this method were sent home with no aftercare at all.....Even with aftercare, relapse is possible, very possible, just a better chance of avoiding it with aftercare.
I am glad ur friend is doing well....it is just not the rule as physical wd is not the hardship of getting clean and definitely not the hardship of staying clean...it is the mental portion of addiction that will burn an addict everytime
I am not sure what you all are talking about . I just witness someone going through the Waismann Method and they are doing wonderful. And after visiting the after care Domus , it was pretty amazing to see how many people were doing so well and gratefull for being able to go through withdrawal with out crawling the walls.
Everyone react different to life experiences , specially medical ones. If you ask people how they felt after a root canal from the same dentist , you will hear horrble and great.
I belive that having people withdrawing while under doctors supervison is so much safer and comfortable then at home or in the rehab.
Everyone react different to life experiences , specially medical ones. If you ask people how they felt after a root canal from the same dentist , you will hear horrble and great.
I belive that having people withdrawing while under doctors supervison is so much safer and comfortable then at home or in the rehab.
Hi Henry,
I know that this is an old post, but I was mortified at your experience. I did an accelerated detox that was over the course of 8 days - for suboxone - and it was not nearly as bad - but it still was difficult and took about 5 weeks for me to come around. Glad you are in much better shape now.
I know that this is an old post, but I was mortified at your experience. I did an accelerated detox that was over the course of 8 days - for suboxone - and it was not nearly as bad - but it still was difficult and took about 5 weeks for me to come around. Glad you are in much better shape now.
Hey Hun,
Congrats on your taper! I know how difficult that can be, you have done very well!
I was on methadone for over 7 years at high doses usually maintained at about 425mgs daily.
Personally had I not switched to suboxone I would still be on methadone today. Sub withdrawals are tough, but nothing compared to my methadone Wes
I am out running around and sending from my iPad, hence the typos. I will be sure to message you all the info you could want later on tonight when I get home and can focus on an accurate message for you!
Head over to naabt.org in the mean time for lots of info on sub. You are at a good dose to invert to! Are you planning on doing this wi a docs help?
Henry
Congrats on your taper! I know how difficult that can be, you have done very well!
I was on methadone for over 7 years at high doses usually maintained at about 425mgs daily.
Personally had I not switched to suboxone I would still be on methadone today. Sub withdrawals are tough, but nothing compared to my methadone Wes
I am out running around and sending from my iPad, hence the typos. I will be sure to message you all the info you could want later on tonight when I get home and can focus on an accurate message for you!
Head over to naabt.org in the mean time for lots of info on sub. You are at a good dose to invert to! Are you planning on doing this wi a docs help?
Henry
Henry,
I am sorry you suffered so greatly. My father just phoned me telling me about rapid detox. I have been on Methadone for 10 years, which has arrested my development. I have been tapering off because I want to switch to suboxon but its almost impossible to switch. Can you provide me any advise on switching over. I am on a daily dose of 20 miligrams of methadone. I used to be on 100 mgs but I managed to ween all the way down to 20. Now I am in a state of constant but minor withdrawals. Should I continue to tapper slowly of methadone or make the switch to suboxon and suffer the withdrawal.
I am sorry you suffered so greatly. My father just phoned me telling me about rapid detox. I have been on Methadone for 10 years, which has arrested my development. I have been tapering off because I want to switch to suboxon but its almost impossible to switch. Can you provide me any advise on switching over. I am on a daily dose of 20 miligrams of methadone. I used to be on 100 mgs but I managed to ween all the way down to 20. Now I am in a state of constant but minor withdrawals. Should I continue to tapper slowly of methadone or make the switch to suboxon and suffer the withdrawal.
Wow,
I was kind of shocked to see this post pop up again after so long!
It has come to my attention that the Waismann centers have been closed down now?
Interesting... Again though I would like to reiterate what one poster said... I got what I paid for. A quick detox. Albeit not painless, nor successfull for ME, but I walked out of there detoxed.
I also agree that this is the future of addiction medicine. Now that it can be classified as a disease, they are aiming at fixing the disease not the person.
I dont necessarily regret having waismann done, but only because I have learned a lot since that fateful day. But in the same breath I could not in good faith reccomend this procedure to anyone.
As an update, I left the medical field and now fly as an International Flight attendant for the military. I stopped my sub taper in '08 and went back up as I was having some problems with it, but IM happy to say that today I am on my 7th day free of suboxone. Hasnt been easy, but its been worth it!
HS
I was kind of shocked to see this post pop up again after so long!
It has come to my attention that the Waismann centers have been closed down now?
Interesting... Again though I would like to reiterate what one poster said... I got what I paid for. A quick detox. Albeit not painless, nor successfull for ME, but I walked out of there detoxed.
I also agree that this is the future of addiction medicine. Now that it can be classified as a disease, they are aiming at fixing the disease not the person.
I dont necessarily regret having waismann done, but only because I have learned a lot since that fateful day. But in the same breath I could not in good faith reccomend this procedure to anyone.
As an update, I left the medical field and now fly as an International Flight attendant for the military. I stopped my sub taper in '08 and went back up as I was having some problems with it, but IM happy to say that today I am on my 7th day free of suboxone. Hasnt been easy, but its been worth it!
HS
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