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Found a great addiction website
This website explains our addiction and reasons for it in great detail. I especially liked all the info it gave on why we relapse. Hope everyone is having a good day. Here's the link.
http://draonline.org/sitemap.html
http://draonline.org/sitemap.html
Sorry you're having a tough one spunk...it will do that to you over time...I am at 20 and feeling good...think about coming out to 20 too...OK?
pon
pon
I have yet to overcome something that has come in my way. The way I learned this is by DOING it.
I am going to get through this.
Life will pass as will time, but I will never forget where I came from.
My fight is not over. For some people it may never end. I do know that I would rather fight, then battle this anymore.
I am scared as well, but I see where this path leads. I feel for the people that have battled this for years.
For that I am lucky. I was/am able to overcome this. For some never will.......
Chezz
I am going to get through this.
Life will pass as will time, but I will never forget where I came from.
My fight is not over. For some people it may never end. I do know that I would rather fight, then battle this anymore.
I am scared as well, but I see where this path leads. I feel for the people that have battled this for years.
For that I am lucky. I was/am able to overcome this. For some never will.......
Chezz
Allisa, Chezz is right...I was where you are now (sort of) with alcohol when I was 27...I din't have an easy time growing up...left home at 17...put myself through college...but at 27 I saw what lay ahead of me as an alcoholic...I saw it in my older brother, who never quit drinking and committed suicide this past may, only 45 years old....still an alcoholic...at the end of his rope...deeply in debt, with a wife and two children...and he saw no way out. I saw that future when I was 27....I have had 15 wonderful years since I quit drinking...I have a wife I love who is a wonderful person, 2 beautiful daughters, a third on the way, a farm with horses (my life long love), and a job I LIKE and ENJOY....if I hadn't quit, I would not have any of that now.
Yes, I could live without my farm, without my horses, without the other things that money can buy...but I would not live without my wife and children who I love...if I was still drinking, they would never have come into my life.
You are at a cross roads in your life now...you are obviously sstarting to see the potential future that lays ahead of you with the pills...am I not right? would you be coming here if not? would you be trying and wanting to quit if not?
The choice is yours...think about what you want your life to be when you are 41 like me...think about it and see which is the higher price to pay...w/d now or missing the life you COULD have...the life that is waiting out there for you...if you are free.
I'll share with you some words from a song that helped me make my choice back then...
Days turn to minutes
and minutes to memories
life sweeps away the dreams
that we have planned
You are young and you are the future
so suck it up and tough it out
and be the best you can
This is my life, it is what I've chosen to do, there are no free rides, no one said it would be easy.
BUT I SAY IT IS WORTH IT...and so are YOU.
Chezz, hang in there man...I know that everything feels like it is coming down on you right now...but think aboout the advice you gave to Allisa...you made that choice as a young man..now you are faced with the choice AGAIN, same as I am.
You are making the right choice Chezz...no one said it would be easy...everything comes with it's price...this price is high...VERY HIGH...but the reward is higher
I wish I could take away what you are going through right now, but I can't...I can tell you this though...TIME will take away what you are dealing with right now...IF you see it through.
See it through my friend...join me...stick it out ...IT IS WORTH IT...AND SO ARE YOU.
pon
Yes, I could live without my farm, without my horses, without the other things that money can buy...but I would not live without my wife and children who I love...if I was still drinking, they would never have come into my life.
You are at a cross roads in your life now...you are obviously sstarting to see the potential future that lays ahead of you with the pills...am I not right? would you be coming here if not? would you be trying and wanting to quit if not?
The choice is yours...think about what you want your life to be when you are 41 like me...think about it and see which is the higher price to pay...w/d now or missing the life you COULD have...the life that is waiting out there for you...if you are free.
I'll share with you some words from a song that helped me make my choice back then...
Days turn to minutes
and minutes to memories
life sweeps away the dreams
that we have planned
You are young and you are the future
so suck it up and tough it out
and be the best you can
This is my life, it is what I've chosen to do, there are no free rides, no one said it would be easy.
BUT I SAY IT IS WORTH IT...and so are YOU.
Chezz, hang in there man...I know that everything feels like it is coming down on you right now...but think aboout the advice you gave to Allisa...you made that choice as a young man..now you are faced with the choice AGAIN, same as I am.
You are making the right choice Chezz...no one said it would be easy...everything comes with it's price...this price is high...VERY HIGH...but the reward is higher
I wish I could take away what you are going through right now, but I can't...I can tell you this though...TIME will take away what you are dealing with right now...IF you see it through.
See it through my friend...join me...stick it out ...IT IS WORTH IT...AND SO ARE YOU.
pon
Hope you had a good sleep kiddo...when you are awake and reading this you will be on day 4! 3 & 4 usually seem to be the worst physically, so you may be getting through that part not too badly...my physical w/d wasn't terrible, just bad...perhaps you will be lucky like me.
Allisa, I usually try not to tell people what they should do..I don't do that outside the forum...and especially `not inside...when I talk to people here I am seeking their help, strength, and encouragement...and I have to say, I have never found a greater source of each of those. I am on day 18 and feeling good AND happy...the forum helped me get there.
That said, I would like to offer you a little "encouragement"...stay away from your friend with all the stuff this weekend...you've made it too the first crossroad at day 4, i would encourage you to stick it out. Set yourself a goal...maybe 10 days? and see if you can do it. If you do, then maybe you'll want to set another...but at least it will be YOUR choice.
I'm sorry if I am out of line with my "encouragment"...just care and worry some about you...like to see you have the life you deserve, a life free from the slavery of the pills.
prayers,
Pon
Allisa, I usually try not to tell people what they should do..I don't do that outside the forum...and especially `not inside...when I talk to people here I am seeking their help, strength, and encouragement...and I have to say, I have never found a greater source of each of those. I am on day 18 and feeling good AND happy...the forum helped me get there.
That said, I would like to offer you a little "encouragement"...stay away from your friend with all the stuff this weekend...you've made it too the first crossroad at day 4, i would encourage you to stick it out. Set yourself a goal...maybe 10 days? and see if you can do it. If you do, then maybe you'll want to set another...but at least it will be YOUR choice.
I'm sorry if I am out of line with my "encouragment"...just care and worry some about you...like to see you have the life you deserve, a life free from the slavery of the pills.
prayers,
Pon
Pon's got it right Allisa. You are a slave to the pills when it gets bad. And bad it will. You know it, WE all know it.
I can not be more honest than this...
If I had my life to do over again. I would have listened a little more to myself(gut feeling) when things didn't seem right. I would have also listened to more people who can see things for the outside looking in. (its called therapy in the real world-and you have to pay for it)
You really have a chance to go down the right road. I remember when I had to make that decision out of high school. Sit around and party with my friends. Which I absolutely loved, drank, smoked, did nnnnnoooooottttthhhhhhiiiiinnnnnngggggggg.
Or I could have made the other choice. Which for me at the time was the military. I was in 4 years.
I have since furthered my life and career to places I never thought I would get.
Anyways, the moral of the story is when I go back home now and I see all my old friends. They are still doing the same thing, nothing. They wonder how I afford my "toys". I earned them. I worked my ass off. Now I can delve in the fruits of my labor.
You may think this is a small issue. When in reality, I feel I feel this decision will direct your life. I personally think you need to make some decisions about where you want to be in 10 years.
How would you feel 10 years from now, back on this forum, describing to someone new what to expect, ect. And then to tell them this same story I am telling you. That you wished you would have taken control of your life when you had the chance.
You would be giving this same advice to them.
Do you think I maybe grew up different. No. My parents were both fu#@%$# up when I was growing up. We got by, bearly sometimes. I would love to tell you more. But it hurts wayyyyyyy to much right now. I haven't talked to them in 5-6 years, due to their drug/alchohol/pain killer/divorce.
Nobody gets a free ride in life. You are at the apex of the rest of your life. You can do it. You can make a better life for yourself. This goes way beyond using or not. You can get out of the situation you are in. Away from your using "friends".
You have so much potential. Yet I feel your pain. I know.
I know because these were the exact things my sister was dealing with when I left. She turned around the wrong corner, and lost 4 years of her life. And I wasn't there to help her. I wish I could have been there to tell her the things I am telling you. I can't take back time. Although there are many nights I lay awake wondering if I could have saved her from all of that pain if I never left.
I wish I could write until you would listen. I wish I could make this pain go away.........I am lucky I have my sister back now. There is nothing I can do now to save her from the pain.
All I can do now is try and help you.
Allisa, you probably will never know how hard this is, writing this to you and going through this pain/thoughts/wishes. I would trade everything in my life right now if I could have saved her from the pain she had to go through.
Sincerely,
Chezz
this is one of the hardest posts I have ever.......it just hurts.
I can not be more honest than this...
If I had my life to do over again. I would have listened a little more to myself(gut feeling) when things didn't seem right. I would have also listened to more people who can see things for the outside looking in. (its called therapy in the real world-and you have to pay for it)
You really have a chance to go down the right road. I remember when I had to make that decision out of high school. Sit around and party with my friends. Which I absolutely loved, drank, smoked, did nnnnnoooooottttthhhhhhiiiiinnnnnngggggggg.
Or I could have made the other choice. Which for me at the time was the military. I was in 4 years.
I have since furthered my life and career to places I never thought I would get.
Anyways, the moral of the story is when I go back home now and I see all my old friends. They are still doing the same thing, nothing. They wonder how I afford my "toys". I earned them. I worked my ass off. Now I can delve in the fruits of my labor.
You may think this is a small issue. When in reality, I feel I feel this decision will direct your life. I personally think you need to make some decisions about where you want to be in 10 years.
How would you feel 10 years from now, back on this forum, describing to someone new what to expect, ect. And then to tell them this same story I am telling you. That you wished you would have taken control of your life when you had the chance.
You would be giving this same advice to them.
Do you think I maybe grew up different. No. My parents were both fu#@%$# up when I was growing up. We got by, bearly sometimes. I would love to tell you more. But it hurts wayyyyyyy to much right now. I haven't talked to them in 5-6 years, due to their drug/alchohol/pain killer/divorce.
Nobody gets a free ride in life. You are at the apex of the rest of your life. You can do it. You can make a better life for yourself. This goes way beyond using or not. You can get out of the situation you are in. Away from your using "friends".
You have so much potential. Yet I feel your pain. I know.
I know because these were the exact things my sister was dealing with when I left. She turned around the wrong corner, and lost 4 years of her life. And I wasn't there to help her. I wish I could have been there to tell her the things I am telling you. I can't take back time. Although there are many nights I lay awake wondering if I could have saved her from all of that pain if I never left.
I wish I could write until you would listen. I wish I could make this pain go away.........I am lucky I have my sister back now. There is nothing I can do now to save her from the pain.
All I can do now is try and help you.
Allisa, you probably will never know how hard this is, writing this to you and going through this pain/thoughts/wishes. I would trade everything in my life right now if I could have saved her from the pain she had to go through.
Sincerely,
Chezz
this is one of the hardest posts I have ever.......it just hurts.
Hey, glad to hear you are having a little better day. And you are right, that "feeling" you are having is part of the w/d's.
Kind of hard to put a name to it, huh.
If you are seriously going to try and quit, read my post above about me going CT tomorrow. It has everything listed in it that I am going to do and take to make it the most comfortable that I can.
Remember we are here for you. YOU can do it too. All it takes is the WILL amd DESIRE and you can beat this. If not, we will still be here for ya anyways.
If you want, you can email at ***@****
I tried to check you pic out. But couldn't seem to figure out how to view your profile. It came up not found. Lucy 420(pothead) heheheheheheh. I puff a little myself. It also helps with the w/ds.
Let us know what's up when you get off work,
Chezz
Kind of hard to put a name to it, huh.
If you are seriously going to try and quit, read my post above about me going CT tomorrow. It has everything listed in it that I am going to do and take to make it the most comfortable that I can.
Remember we are here for you. YOU can do it too. All it takes is the WILL amd DESIRE and you can beat this. If not, we will still be here for ya anyways.
If you want, you can email at ***@****
I tried to check you pic out. But couldn't seem to figure out how to view your profile. It came up not found. Lucy 420(pothead) heheheheheheh. I puff a little myself. It also helps with the w/ds.
Let us know what's up when you get off work,
Chezz
I think I am the one that kept things stirred up yesterday between you and Groovy.After you both had posted to eachother then I jumped in and kept the **** stirred up.I am sorry.I don't care if you use or not.That is your decision.I am not here to judge you ,only to talk to you.We have had several really good conversations and I will miss them if you leave us.This forum is for the negative part of our addiction, not just the positive part.Not everyone here is clean and if they were this would be a love fest not an addiction board.
Hey I love ya no matter what!!!!!!!!!
bmac
Hey I love ya no matter what!!!!!!!!!
bmac
I'm glad to here it too...you can do it Allisa...you just have to want to bad enough. It IS really hard and it hurts a lot, BUT the w/d does end and you come out the otherside with a chance at a fresh start...
We don't care if you're usin'...we just care about you. Do the best you can, we'll be here for you.
pon
We don't care if you're usin'...we just care about you. Do the best you can, we'll be here for you.
pon
Nobody is disappointed in you. We are just WORRIED for you. We know how it is to be young and spunky and think we are in control.
Personally I hope the best for you. I want to see you succeed in becoming clean.
Although if you are going to use, we want you to know you are still welcome here too.
Don't worry about Groovy, me or anybody else. Nobody is mad or anything else at you here.
We CARE about you. Using or not. Keep posting and let us know how you are doing. You are going to have ups and downs, and you should be able to come here for support.
Don't let us down. The only way we would be upset, is if you stopped posting. We need your SPUNKINESS.
Chezz
Personally I hope the best for you. I want to see you succeed in becoming clean.
Although if you are going to use, we want you to know you are still welcome here too.
Don't worry about Groovy, me or anybody else. Nobody is mad or anything else at you here.
We CARE about you. Using or not. Keep posting and let us know how you are doing. You are going to have ups and downs, and you should be able to come here for support.
Don't let us down. The only way we would be upset, is if you stopped posting. We need your SPUNKINESS.
Chezz
I am never disapointed in you kiddo...there is no room for diapointment among us...just sharing and caring....I'll write you more later.
pon
pon
hi - i looked into that site and meetings in my area. i think i might try one...thanks for the info.
... i guess it's easy to obssess about something that is/has/could consume ones' body and soul!!!! Kind of a natural response...
I really hope things work out for you; in such a short time, you've helped an awful lot of people "pops" haha.(father fig.)
I'll be wishing the least painful surgery and recovery for you.
I really hope things work out for you; in such a short time, you've helped an awful lot of people "pops" haha.(father fig.)
I'll be wishing the least painful surgery and recovery for you.
Thanks,and about the father figure I take that as a compliment.
At 44 I feel I have been there and done it all and to share
my experiences good or bad with you younger people makes me feel like allthis **** I have done is worth it if I can help one person get off this mess.I have been obsessed with withdrawing and the aftermath of it.My surgeon told me yesterday that
being so obsessed over narcotics can be as bad for me as taking them.He said look at some of the people in NA.They get so
obsessed with never ever taking anything that when they get
cancer they refuse narcotics and die a terrible death.One of his
patients had cancer and had been in NA for 10 years and was totally against even taking Advil.He watched this guy die a death that was totally unnecessary.He did add that he believes in NA but not the point of being obsessed.I got his point.
He said after my surgery that the day I go home if I still feel so against narcotics he can run Narcane thru me.That would stop all the opiates in me,but hey,I'm not stupid I will do what I have to do.I will always have you guys.And that has given me more support than any doctor could,
Thanks
bmac
At 44 I feel I have been there and done it all and to share
my experiences good or bad with you younger people makes me feel like allthis **** I have done is worth it if I can help one person get off this mess.I have been obsessed with withdrawing and the aftermath of it.My surgeon told me yesterday that
being so obsessed over narcotics can be as bad for me as taking them.He said look at some of the people in NA.They get so
obsessed with never ever taking anything that when they get
cancer they refuse narcotics and die a terrible death.One of his
patients had cancer and had been in NA for 10 years and was totally against even taking Advil.He watched this guy die a death that was totally unnecessary.He did add that he believes in NA but not the point of being obsessed.I got his point.
He said after my surgery that the day I go home if I still feel so against narcotics he can run Narcane thru me.That would stop all the opiates in me,but hey,I'm not stupid I will do what I have to do.I will always have you guys.And that has given me more support than any doctor could,
Thanks
bmac
Narcane is something the detox centers use to detox people
overnight.My wife says they use it in surgery when they have to give narcotics to people that have never taken such strong of a drug.When they wake up from surgery and they have that euphoric
feeling, it scares them.So they put narcane into their iv's to
stop that feeling.Man,what's their problem(just kidding)not
really.I am just afraid of getting back to where I was two months ago,but I think my being afraid is just that little mindgame we as addicts always play in our minds.
thanks,
bmac
overnight.My wife says they use it in surgery when they have to give narcotics to people that have never taken such strong of a drug.When they wake up from surgery and they have that euphoric
feeling, it scares them.So they put narcane into their iv's to
stop that feeling.Man,what's their problem(just kidding)not
really.I am just afraid of getting back to where I was two months ago,but I think my being afraid is just that little mindgame we as addicts always play in our minds.
thanks,
bmac
Yes I saw the doc and he wants me to start taking MS contin.
Can you believe after the past month a doctor wants me back on opiates and even though he knows of my problems I have had getting off.He told me that too many people are obsessed
with addiction.Boy,he nailed me.He says addiction to narcotics while under the care of a good doctor won't be a problem.
I got back to my van and had a good laugh.I did do something I haven't done in awhile.I smoked a joint and man for about 30 minutes I didn't think about this **** at all.Why is it I can take tons of morphine but I can't smoke pot.This laws in this country are really stupid.Anyway I haven't made my mind up yet about using again.My pain doc is out of town until Oct 1st so
until then I will remain opiate free.But hey,who knows maybe I'll find the reeferman instead.
Thanks for asking!
36 days and growing!!
bmac
Can you believe after the past month a doctor wants me back on opiates and even though he knows of my problems I have had getting off.He told me that too many people are obsessed
with addiction.Boy,he nailed me.He says addiction to narcotics while under the care of a good doctor won't be a problem.
I got back to my van and had a good laugh.I did do something I haven't done in awhile.I smoked a joint and man for about 30 minutes I didn't think about this **** at all.Why is it I can take tons of morphine but I can't smoke pot.This laws in this country are really stupid.Anyway I haven't made my mind up yet about using again.My pain doc is out of town until Oct 1st so
until then I will remain opiate free.But hey,who knows maybe I'll find the reeferman instead.
Thanks for asking!
36 days and growing!!
bmac
About your post yesterday.About the time released hydromorphine.
That was just fate I guess.I had just come home from a doctors appt.We talked about the fact that they now had it in a time release form.Then I start reading and your post was about it.
Well,I haven't taken hydromorph since the 70's and we called them K4's back then but man I can't imagine taking it everyday.
Talk about nodding off.Well my doctor said they give it to cancer victims but I am sure the pain medicine field is already using it.
peace and thanks for the flashback!
bmac
That was just fate I guess.I had just come home from a doctors appt.We talked about the fact that they now had it in a time release form.Then I start reading and your post was about it.
Well,I haven't taken hydromorph since the 70's and we called them K4's back then but man I can't imagine taking it everyday.
Talk about nodding off.Well my doctor said they give it to cancer victims but I am sure the pain medicine field is already using it.
peace and thanks for the flashback!
bmac
Allisa,
this is one of your 1st posts(below). You were reaching out for help in my opinion.
Now you are asking about how to take different things. And how you aren't out of control like your friends on coke ect. "What I take is manufactured at least" is something else you said.
Allisa - This is just my humble opinion. Addiction is addiction. I don't care if you take pills or crack. Try not taking anything for 1 week. If you can do that, than you might be alright. But you won't because you are addicted, just like us. Letting your tolerance rise/drop ect,ect, doesn't help, or mean that you have control. This is going to go on until you are really in deep. Then you are going to wish that you would have taken the chance you have here with us to help and support you through getting clean.
I personally really think you are a pretty spunky funny kind of girl.
You aren't going to stay that way on the path you are on. All I am asking is take a look at where you were when you 1st posted and were you are now. If you aren't ready to quit, you won't. When you are, we will be here. Until then be safe and know that you are worth being clean and happy.
I personally have kept a "diary" of my posts to remind myself were I came from. It helps to reread some of the things I was going through just weeks ago. It reminds me that I AM NOT IN CONTROL as long as I am using.
I am just trying to reach out to you. Take it for what it is.
Please don't post back. This was meant "for your thoughts"
Chezz
i see a lot of you guys are doing good today, and im happy for you. almost envious. i was doing good the last three days and then lastnight this guy i know told me to hold out my hand. i had no idea what he was giving me until i looked into my palm. it was a percocet 10. big, fat, yellow, and tempting. i was still going through opiate withdrawl from the hydrocodone and i wanted my body to feel good again so i took half, but it took me like 45 minutes before i decided to eat it, and then that feeling sets in after 30 minutes or so. my body felt better, but mentally i felt even more depressed. it's been really tough for me to stay away from these drugs. i never use to be so bad on them. i would get one for the day and then not take any for weeks and be ok, but i got hooked bad the last go around before this one. and i know i'll never have it like that again. my friend worked for a doctor's office and she was hooked too. we got our drugs straight from the pharmacy. it was a lot cheeper too. all i had to do was pick them up and i got a percentage. we would hit three pharmacy's in one day. picking up for names that weren't even real. then she started selling them and she was making a killing. she got greedy though. she ate anywhere from 16-20 pills a day and managed to make almost a thousand dollars in a week. she charged 5 bucks a pop. she got her jeep cheroke and her house paid off and managed to support mine and her habit. which become a 10 month habit. then one day it was over just like that. she got fired, but the doctor or the pharmacist never pressed any charges. she was lucky and so was i, but we went cold turkey. we had to. they're was no way we could get enough pills to taper a habit like that. the withdrawl was almost ugly. i didn't want to see anybody. not my boyfriend, even though we live together. not my family. no one. the first day was absolute hell. the bad thing is i would have sold my soul to the devil for more pills. so for the last month ive been on and off them and it's hard, but it's not the hell i went through before. i've stocked up on things i need such as, i have 30 valuim, blow pops, lifesavers, heating pad, and multivitamin that i bought yesterday. i don't have enough money for the thomas recipe. so thats out. last time i went through withdrawl i wanted candy so bad........well im out--allisa
this is one of your 1st posts(below). You were reaching out for help in my opinion.
Now you are asking about how to take different things. And how you aren't out of control like your friends on coke ect. "What I take is manufactured at least" is something else you said.
Allisa - This is just my humble opinion. Addiction is addiction. I don't care if you take pills or crack. Try not taking anything for 1 week. If you can do that, than you might be alright. But you won't because you are addicted, just like us. Letting your tolerance rise/drop ect,ect, doesn't help, or mean that you have control. This is going to go on until you are really in deep. Then you are going to wish that you would have taken the chance you have here with us to help and support you through getting clean.
I personally really think you are a pretty spunky funny kind of girl.
You aren't going to stay that way on the path you are on. All I am asking is take a look at where you were when you 1st posted and were you are now. If you aren't ready to quit, you won't. When you are, we will be here. Until then be safe and know that you are worth being clean and happy.
I personally have kept a "diary" of my posts to remind myself were I came from. It helps to reread some of the things I was going through just weeks ago. It reminds me that I AM NOT IN CONTROL as long as I am using.
I am just trying to reach out to you. Take it for what it is.
Please don't post back. This was meant "for your thoughts"
Chezz
i see a lot of you guys are doing good today, and im happy for you. almost envious. i was doing good the last three days and then lastnight this guy i know told me to hold out my hand. i had no idea what he was giving me until i looked into my palm. it was a percocet 10. big, fat, yellow, and tempting. i was still going through opiate withdrawl from the hydrocodone and i wanted my body to feel good again so i took half, but it took me like 45 minutes before i decided to eat it, and then that feeling sets in after 30 minutes or so. my body felt better, but mentally i felt even more depressed. it's been really tough for me to stay away from these drugs. i never use to be so bad on them. i would get one for the day and then not take any for weeks and be ok, but i got hooked bad the last go around before this one. and i know i'll never have it like that again. my friend worked for a doctor's office and she was hooked too. we got our drugs straight from the pharmacy. it was a lot cheeper too. all i had to do was pick them up and i got a percentage. we would hit three pharmacy's in one day. picking up for names that weren't even real. then she started selling them and she was making a killing. she got greedy though. she ate anywhere from 16-20 pills a day and managed to make almost a thousand dollars in a week. she charged 5 bucks a pop. she got her jeep cheroke and her house paid off and managed to support mine and her habit. which become a 10 month habit. then one day it was over just like that. she got fired, but the doctor or the pharmacist never pressed any charges. she was lucky and so was i, but we went cold turkey. we had to. they're was no way we could get enough pills to taper a habit like that. the withdrawl was almost ugly. i didn't want to see anybody. not my boyfriend, even though we live together. not my family. no one. the first day was absolute hell. the bad thing is i would have sold my soul to the devil for more pills. so for the last month ive been on and off them and it's hard, but it's not the hell i went through before. i've stocked up on things i need such as, i have 30 valuim, blow pops, lifesavers, heating pad, and multivitamin that i bought yesterday. i don't have enough money for the thomas recipe. so thats out. last time i went through withdrawl i wanted candy so bad........well im out--allisa
Well.... There you have it.
All put into proper perspective.
Thanks Chezz.
Everybody, go read the posts from Wednesday a.m. to now (notice the anger directed at many posters back and forth), and you will see that EVERYBODY had good points, but in the end, the RIGHT thing happened. Someone realized what was right in front of their nose: "I have a problem. I am reaching out. I need help."
That is what this forum is for.
Good day,
Jess
All put into proper perspective.
Thanks Chezz.
Everybody, go read the posts from Wednesday a.m. to now (notice the anger directed at many posters back and forth), and you will see that EVERYBODY had good points, but in the end, the RIGHT thing happened. Someone realized what was right in front of their nose: "I have a problem. I am reaching out. I need help."
That is what this forum is for.
Good day,
Jess
I remember good old K4's.That was back in the 70's,man a couple of K4's and you had a good nod for the evening.Reading your posts reminds me of my youth.We had all the fun one can imagine
with these drugs you mentioned earlier.Man,I'm having flashbacks here.
peace,
bmac
with these drugs you mentioned earlier.Man,I'm having flashbacks here.
peace,
bmac
allisa:
you will probably be ok taking 4 mg. of dilaudid (hydromorphone).
maybe if you waited for a day off from work. did you say it was in
suppository form? are you from canada? canadians see to have a lot
of medicine in suppository form...whats up with that? reminds me of
the old Lenny Bruce joke about seconal suppositorys (yur atheleep
before you can get your finger out of your ath)
the levo you refer too is a c-2 narcotic called levo dromorian
(levo phanol) this is one narcotic i've never run across. i think
british doctors like it as it has very low sedative propertys
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
you will probably be ok taking 4 mg. of dilaudid (hydromorphone).
maybe if you waited for a day off from work. did you say it was in
suppository form? are you from canada? canadians see to have a lot
of medicine in suppository form...whats up with that? reminds me of
the old Lenny Bruce joke about seconal suppositorys (yur atheleep
before you can get your finger out of your ath)
the levo you refer too is a c-2 narcotic called levo dromorian
(levo phanol) this is one narcotic i've never run across. i think
british doctors like it as it has very low sedative propertys
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
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