Going into Day 6 Grumpy

[Pat1956100]

I finally fell asleep after over 20 hours without any and there is a knock at my door.  It's my tenant telling me it's garbage night.  I KNOW what freaking night it is.  Let me know if there's a fire but otherwise, leave me alone.....No, I didn't say that but that's what I was thinking.  So, I didn't even get 3 hours sleep.  I am so tired and I know i would have slept longer.  Sleep is so precious now.  I even turned the ringer off on my phone and I never do that because of my mother but I told her I was going to, so I could sleep.
Well I had to vent to someone and to someone who get's it lol.
Also my external mouse quit on my computer and I am finally learning how to use this silly built in one and stuff is going all over the place.  I am losing posts too.  I don't like change.
The softer side of Pat shall return soon, hopefully

[kyle505]

Yeah...I remember the Seven Dwarfs reference. I also mentioned that you'd be Sleepy, Sneezy and eventually Happy.  And just don't visit Doc.
Keep on keeping on.  

[Pat1956100]

If they phoned me at 7 ;30 in the morning, I would tell them they lost my vote.  Anyone who phones that early for no good reason. should be shot.
Seriously.  John's parents used to phone early and it drove me crazy.  I so wish that was my problem now lol.

[Sonrissa]

Good morning, you Grumpy Gus's! I hate the ringing phone too! It's what woke me up at 7:30 today! A freaking political call! Man, I hate living in a so called Swing State! Just want this over with now!!

There, I do feel better!!

[Pat1956100]

I know I am just way behind the times.  I just have no desire for a cell phone.  Don't want anyone tracking me down lol.  My new motto is LEAVE ME ALONE lol.

[buddycrunch]

Everytime I try to talk with my kids, i hear their dang phone vibrating, then they pull them out and start texting.  I pay for that service so they can ignore me, how dumb is that?

Thinking to myself when I meet those people on the walking trail using their earbuds, I bet they are not actually talking to anybody, they're just trying to look cool since they have nobody to walk with........I should try that, and carry on some kind of conversation that freaks them out, say stuff like, "yeah, i'll meet you in 20 minutes, are you sure your husband won't show up?"

[smiles4eva]

You make me laugh.  Have I mentioned how happy I am to have you back!?
BTW...I am one of those people who would drive you nuts!  How else am I going to check in on everyone at medhelp while sitting in traffic!? Lol

[Pat1956100]

I have never owned a cell phone believe it or not.  I have had too many jobs where I had to answer the phone and I honestly hate the sound of a ringing phone.  It's bad enough that I have to answer it at home, let alone when I am out of the house.
It also is crazy now how people are glued to them and texting on them constantly.  
Just my opinion lol.

[buddycrunch]

it would be so cool, if we (as many as possible) could use our cellphones with the earbud attatchments and do conference calls while we walk.  Everytime I use our walking trails I run into people walking by themselves and talking up a strom, when I get close enough I see they are using earbuds and talking on their cellphones.  I could probably walk much longer with companionship like that.

[Pat1956100]

Good morning Buddy and all
YAY, I did fall back into a deep, deep sleep.  I took a melatonin and it helped.  I was so tired and it just pushed me over the edge.
Just woke up and not so grumpy.  Just foggy and very sore body.
I did walk around the block yesterday and going to try for a longer one today when I can muster up some energy.  
lol at muster.  Where do these words come from.
Hope everyone has a great clean day.
xo

[buddycrunch]

Patteeeee, Oh Pattie,   Wakie wakie.

I've been up and on here for over an hour figured i should make my first post. so wrote along 1 here.  about my sleep, aids i took, headache @ 2:30 mixin saline nasal spray, falling asleep in the kithen sink, still bamming headache, too many sleep aids to get on with you girls at 2:30.

But then Pat, this damn laptopin without a mouse,  I went to make a capital letter and it highlighted and deletes my entire post.  son of a ******* it has done that to me so many times, by the time i rewrite, others posted and mine doesn't make since.

Good morning everybody, its gettin late.  gotta shower dress & try to accomplish sumthin 2day.

[worried878]

oh..going to the gym..good 4 u!  I went day 2 for 10 minutes..lol..but i went!  everyday I lasted a little longer and was up to an hour byt the second week.  When i was doing the cardio machines, I felt normal for a while as endorphins kicked in and it would last for hours after...is worth it!  Now I know why runners get addicted to the high they get after a certain time due to the endorphins..cos we need them after we take the pills away..the pills were our endorphins and the brain has to catch up again.  Our body knows when it is getting sumpin from an outside source..aand stops producing as much.  Exercise forces the production of those much needed energy boosters!  Keep moving forward...be sure u have a plan to stay clean.

[worried878]

Pat will return.  Staying busy helps me a lot...mind is not on how bad I felt.  Exercise helps tho it seems impossible to do...but helps stress and gives u nrg too!  A walk around the block even a walk in your yard.  I did some soft yoga and it helped.  I slept a lot verses no sleep..so good i guess...we r all different.  5HTP helped me sleep  melatonin or valerian root helps as well.  I have the opposite  effect to benadryl as it wires me up but helps some sleep as does exercise.  A cold, cold room is great for sleeping cos it slows your metabolism down.  Also read that if you cant sleep, get up and leave your bed instead of tossing and turning so your bed doesnt become a place u associate with stress.  Calcium with magnesium also helps if taken at night...good luck to u and hang tight

[CH617]

Thanks so much for your kind words.  You are correct: this is my first (and hopefully last) time doing this. Sorry about posting in the wrong thread.  Typical new guy, stepping on someone else's post. Sorry about that. Rookie mistake, lol. I will repost in a new thread, and thanks again for the support, much appreciated!

[selfinduced]

WOW! You have an amazing attitude. This has served you well I see. Sounds like this may be your first time detoxing? You have already tapped into the most (at least for me) important tools to get thru this. Music and exercise during this time is soooo valuable.Just wanted to trow some support your way. It is hard to go this journey alone, but we're on your side. Keep posting for addition support and care. You may want to repost this note on your own thread as it will be easier to keep up with. Much congrats to you for reclaiming your freedom for these wicked pills. Keep up the great attitude. It only gets better from here.

[CH617]

The message above was posted yesterday.  I am new here and I didn't know where I should post it.  I figured I'd repost it here in a newer thread.  

As for me, I am now into day 4 and I really do feel better, but not completely back to my old self yet.  A few observations:  I am a 46 y/o male and consider myself pretty tough, but I'm amazed how many times I've found myself crying over the last few days.  Each day I've gone for a run with my Ipod (which really helps, by the way) and I'll hear a song and find myself tearing up as I'm running.  The funny part is that they are not tears of sadness or pain, but instead they are tears of me thinking about how much I love my family and how great my pain-in-the-***-kids are.  Each song I hear has a line that somehow relates to my own life.  It's weird, but I really look forward to these moments every day.  It's during these times that I'm able to think about the things in my life that are so important and that I would never want to lose.

As for my detox, yesterday was pretty good and I was looking forward to a better night's sleep. That's what I got: a “better night's sleep” than the night before. Still not a "good night's sleep" though.  A lot of restlessness and at one point it felt like my legs were on fire.  I find it's good to get up and move around and then go back to bed.  I'm then able to sleep again for a while.  I still have the diarrhea and no appetite.  I try to force down a little food, and the vitamins help. The other thing that really helps is coming to this site and reading all the moving stories of people going through the same thing.  I find a lot of strength in other people that have made it out of this thing.  

A few interesting things that other people here have talked about, that have really rung true over the last few days:  In a different thread, someone mentioned you will find yourself singing a song in your head, during the worst parts, that just won't go away.  For me it was "Five Years" by David Bowie.  What's strange about this is that I hadn't heard, or thought about, that song in probably 20 years.  It came out of nowhere and was going through my head constantly while I was shivering.  Also, I am sneezing constantly. It was funny to read that this is very common.  I just figured it was my allergies, though I almost never sneezed before.  The last thing is that I'm starting to notice how I am seeing and hearing things a lot more acutely than before.  I enjoy music more (again!), I enjoy the sun, and the smells, and the little things that were blunted for so long.  Oh yeah, I'm also horny.  My sex drive is returning and that's always a good thing.

Finally, the most important thing for me now is to keep moving forward and not sliding back.  I know there are going to be tough times, but the trick for me is going to be staying busy and filling my free time, so I don't get "distracted".  I'll say again what I said before.  We all need to find that inner toughness that's inside every one of us. BTW, that doesn't mean you have to go cold turkey like me, but just find it so you can get clean any way you know how.  I didn't appreciate how tough it would be until I tried it, and I had to summon the courage to get through it.  It's still early and there's a long way to go, but it's getting a little better every day.  So thank you again to everyone here for the words and the wisdom and the courage and the "toughness" that I have drawn from each of you.  

BTW, sorry about the long posts, but I find them to be cathartic for me.

[CH617]

Hello everyone, I am in day three of cold turkey from 10/325 Hydros 6-8 per day.  For me it's just time to stop. I've been on them for a few years for a degenerative hip condition (it's time to just get the hip replacement), and I want to see what my life will be like without them. This may help people trying to go cold turkey.  

I took my last dose (20mg) 3 days ago @ around 2pm.  This was so I knew I could get some sleep the first night.  Then yesterday, I took a multi vitamin, and an extra B-Complex vitamin.  I also decided to go for a nice long run.  Afterwards I made sure I stayed hydrated with gatorade.  I kept myself busy all day and coached a hockey practice last night.  These things may sound like a hassle, but they are very helpful in making the time pass.

Last night was the toughest.  Just a lousy night with the classic symptoms inc. chills, RLS, diarrhea, etc.  All in all just a tough night.  The hardest part is that my family has no idea.  They don't know about my addiction or that I've decided to quit.  My wife wondered what last night was all about and I just told her I didn't feel well.  She has a lot on her plate at work and this would just add to her stress level.  She's very cool and just wanted me to feel better.

I got up today @ around 6 am after very little sleep and immediately took a multi vitamin and B-Complex with some juice.  I also ate a multi grain bar and then took 800 mg of Ibuprofen for the joint/muscle aches.  I plan to get some exercise again today and try to stay busy.  I am already starting to feel like I am on the other side of the mountain and now just need to continue on this path and feel a little better each day.

I just want to say, we all possess a certain amount of innate toughness and this is the time when you need to tap into that reserve of toughness and get through those first few days.  You can absolutely do it and it is worth doing it.  I'm already getting a feeling of satisfaction that I've been able to get through the toughest part.  For me, I just wouldn't be able to ween. I don't work that way. I needed to just suck it up and ride it out.

My larger point is that this community has been more helpful than anyone could know.  I have read many of the posts and found there are hundreds of people that have been through what I'm going through.  So I want to thank everyone who has posted and I also want to encourage everyone to find that inner toughness. You can get through it, no matter which method you choose.  You must accept that there will be low points and you will get through them as well.  

I'll try to post again in a few days to update where I'm at, but so far so good.  

[Teresa1717]

I wish I could have posts like these every night to make me laugh! lol You guys are too funny! Thanks, I needed that! :)

WOO HOO on Day 6 rolling in !!! Even if its Grumpy Pat, Its not high Pat and thats a good thing! :)

[selfinduced]

DAY 6....Why is this going so fast for me? (Ikid). Your doing amazingly well. Just think very soon you will be feeling a world better. You'll wake without a racing heart, your lungs will feel less heavy, your throat will be open again, your head will be clear, your body won't randomly twitch and  drum roll please.......YOU'LL BE SLEEPING AGAIN. Keep those days coming! YAY PAT!

[Undertow71]

I guess i only needed 3 hours too,cause i woke wide awake to read this and cannot sleep either.Gotta love it hehe

[Sonrissa]

Nope, it was the plate of pasta, Cesar salad, and cheese bread that did it!

[dominosarah]

See, you got your recycling out!!  YAAAA YOUUU!!

[Pat1956100]

Did my garbage talk make you hungry?

[Sonrissa]

Thanks! Now I'm hungry! Guess I will start in on the left over candy!

[Pat1956100]

Put out my recycling.  The garbage can wait until next week.  Baby steps.