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HELP ME PLEASE

I need alot of help right now, and don't know what to do?? I have 5 kids and I am married. I have been on percocet for 2 years now. I take 30 to 35 a day. I HAVE TO GET OFF NOW!! My husband and kids DO NOT KNOW that I am on these. But my husband and I are fighting ALL the time over money. As you may know why!! I run out of the pills and then I am buying them. I spend close to $2200.00 a month on them. YES that's alot of money. We have no money left and are going in debt. We are loosing everything:( PLEASE someone help me. I don't know what to do anymore. It is so hard because I have no one to talk to about this, because nobody knows that I'm on them. I feel like I want to die!! But my family needs me. I have tried many times. But on the first night, I go CRAZY. I can't sleep at all. I have a tingley feeling going through my body, and I toss and turn all night long. My husband even goes nuts asking me what the hell am I doing and what's wrong. Because I can't stop moving, while I try to go to sleep. That feeling in my body that makes my legs shake and my toes move and even my hands feel funny. That's the **** I can't take. I have a job and need to get up in the morning. I NEED MY SLEEP!! So then I start taking them all over again. I need HELP....PLEASE. I have nobody to help support me in this time. I have to do this without my family knowing. I CAN NOT TELL MY HUSBAND!! So anyone who may have any ideas, PLEASE let me know. I think I can get through the day without them, but NOT at night, when I really need to. Is there anything that can help that feeling go away, so I can SLEEP????

Thanks
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I am on Day 9 of a 8-10 Lortab 10/500 a day habit.  I tapered pretty quickly, went down each day by one (5/day, 4/day, 3/day, etc) and that helped w/ wd.  The 6 days after that were pretty bad, I mainly had anxiety attacks, and a bad GI tract.  But what helped me the most through this is this forum and my family support.  Believe me, having your family behind you helps immensely.  I could not imagine doing this by myself.  Each day is getting a little better.  Please, hang in there!
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271792 tn?1334979657
Just a suggestion: Instead of taking 7 pills at once twice a day, spread them out. Try taking 2 pills every 4 hours or however you can spread it. The reason being is taking that many pills at once "spikes" your dose. You will have a harder time tapering if you continue as you are doing. Your body is now craving that boost so if you take them over a period of time there will be less craving and less anxiety and it will make the inevitable withdrawal easier.
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Well, yesterday I only took 14 for the day. It was a bit hard near the end of the day. BUT I DID IT:) That was a very big step on my part....very big. From what I was taking in a day. Anyhow....at night time, I thought it was going to be ok....seeing how I took before bed. But when I took them....it was OK. But abut 2 hours later I started feeling that tingly feeling in my body....but was still able to go to bed. The only bad part was that I woke up really eary because of the feeling.....and can't take any as of yet. I am trying to spread them into 2 times a day. For now!! So here I am right now....with that feeling in my body....that is driving my NUTS. But YES I am trying to suffer it out. It is very hard....because I am getting angry with people very fast and for no reason, even my family. But I trying!!! So we will see how the day goes:( I will try to keep you all posted. Thanks again!!
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Thank you sooooo much!!! You have no idea how much those words mean to me. Just to know I have support, and that I'm not alone....and NOT the only one going through this. I know it will make this easier for me!!! Thanks again:)
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917815 tn?1377498254
Thats a MAJOR step. As hard as the day may get, just keep telling yourself u will have some later and just tough it out...your body will eventually get used to the lower amounts, slowly but surely...way to go and we're all here for ya!!!!!

Good luck and keep posting.
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Ok.....As of now 2:00pm, I have only taken 7 pills. I know that's still alot. But by this time of day I would have taken 14 to 21 already. So it's a start...I hope. I am going to try to go the rest of the day without any!!! Till night time. Then I will take again.....so I can go to sleep. If I can do that, then I will be so happy. Because that means I would have taken 14 for the whole day.....instead of 28!! Then I will do the same tomorrw. I then will try to take less the next day. So we will see.....I hope I can do this, and get through the day. If I feel like taking more.....I will come on here a read all the support you guys are giving me. I believe that will help me get through this. Like I said.....I DON'T FEEL ALONE ANYMORE:) Thanks......and I will keep you all posted through the day, and let you know how it's going!!!
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919239 tn?1269394658
I agree with Kevin. Suboxone is the way to go.
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Listen to me very carefully...

What you're doing is called "bargaining" with your addiction. As a guy who was on pain meds for 4 years and paid $12,500+ for rehab, I feel confident in my opinion. By hiding this situation from your family, you are facing it alone and thus isolating yourself. At the end of the day, what you're doing is lying. You're lying to your family by putting on one face and really being another, and you're lying to yourself if you think you don't need treatment. Your active addiction is what is causing the thoughts that tell you that no one would understand. You talk about the money you've lost to this addiction, but you didn't mention the dignity and self-respect it has (and will continue to) cost you.

There is absolutely NO SHAME in reaching out to those around you. Suboxone is addicting. It's another crutch in the way of your sobriety. Just like with seeking drugs, if you want sobriety bad enough, I'm sure you'll find a way to get it.

How bad do you want this? If getting sober is a bad thing to your husband, do it anyway. You HAVE to take care of yourself first. This addiction doesn't care about you. As with a every false-god -which is exactly what this beast is- you will continue to give and give and give and never get anything in return except for devastation and heartache. Give a little more credit to those around you. People are more comapssionate, understanding, and caring than what your active addiction will ever understand or allow your sick mind to believe.

Tell someone, and then fight your way into treatment. Do it at all costs.

If not now, then when? If not you, then who? Nobody, not even you, did this to you. It's an all-consuming, compulsive cycle that you find yourself in. Active addiction was the darkest place in my life. It took me places I never wanted to go, and it kept me longer than I ever wanted to stay. I know this is how you feel, and because nobody did this to you, while seeking sobriety, nobody can do this for you...nobody but you, my dear.

My words may sound harsh, but they come from a place of deep concern and complete understanding of your value as a person...and also from the deep heart of a man who hates addiction and wants to see another great soul pick itself up and slap the absurd face of nothingness. Please find a way to love yourself.
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Hi What....the taper is probably a good way to go.  I was also on percs and successfully tapered after 3.5 weeks.  Worked through the whole time as well.   The Thomas recipe and the Amino Acid Protocol contained within the Health Pages of this site contain some excellent guidance.

Just my thought but I would not take the sub route...why? Because sub is expensive and addicting as well....you need to get your finances back in order and probably tell your hub as well...I know if my wife came clean about something like this, I would do anything to help her succeed in her recovery.

Good Luck,

Guy
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How long have you been going through w/d? And trying to get off?? I take 7 pills....3 to 4 times a day. That is like 21 to 28 pills in a day.....and sometimes more!!! But starting tomorrow.....I am going to try taking only 15 for the whole day. I will take 5 pills 3 times through the day. I hope that will help. Then I will keep going down on the number of them. So I will be on here today......needing some more support. I know you all will be there for me. And I believe that will also help me. So I will keep you all posted!!! As for you stilltrying......I am so happy for you:) I hope you get through this.We can do this together.....and with others just like us. This site was the best thing for me. I am so happy that I'm on here. Well good night all......we will chat later today. Thanks again to all of you who are posting and giving me your support. I know it will help!!! xoxoxoxo
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Im in w/ds just now and finding it hatd to concentrate or type for too longbut i seen your post and felt i had to try and help first it is not going to be easy but you can do it you will lose some sleep and the feelings in your legs are called restless leg syndrome which some people are unfortunate to get it in their arms and hands my wife does and its one of the main reasons people find it hard to stop but it can be done try get some valium to help with the sleep and tonic water for the rls i know you can do this you are ready and not alone this place will help you come through it like it has helped me good luck and keep posting
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That is 4 pills a day........  listen, you have to buckup on this, I know that to tapper is a tough one for you but alot of the mental has to do with willpower.  You can make it thru with only four pills a day... it is doable.  Take the last two at night... you can sleep with two...  I know you can...
Some on here are just no good at tappering,  and I know you are taking way,way too many during the day,  so if the other plan does not work out for you then perhaps you should just get it done when you are out of the pills, whenever that is.  
  My Dr. would just be all over me for taking more than 6, yes, SIX,  7.5mg lortab a day!!!  My husband thought it was awful too!   I read so much on here from people taking 6 times the amt. per day that I was on.  It scares me for their liver, yes liver!!  Please, get the help you need for this and ask for an antidepressant too.  I was very depressed but I have had a prob. with that for many years.  
You will be amazed at how your pain levels will go down after you detox,  I am a chronic pain sufferor my self  with SLE,fibro,raynaurds, and I am taking Cymbalta x 2 day, and remeron at bedtime, along with 1800 mg neurotin a day.  Sounds like alot but not really.  I will do abt.anything to not be addicted to opiates again,  it brought me pain relief but caused me so much sorrow too.  At least now I am clean and dealing with the pain in other ways.    I hope and wish the best for you.  P.M. me any time.

Ella
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917815 tn?1377498254
go, sleep, let us know tomorrow how everything goes, good luck...we're here fr ya
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Again thanks!!! No....I have not stoped yet. I am trying to!!! I always take around this time....but am trying to skip it and go to bed. I did take today....so I am hoping I CAN get some sleep. Wish me luck....I am finally READY. Thanks to all of your support. I feel GOOD right now. I feel STRONG.....this is the time. Thanks:)
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917815 tn?1377498254
wait have u already stopped taking them, i'm a bit lost? u r 4 dys clean?
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You have had some good advice, I will add the Thomas recipe, listed at the lower right hand side of this page, read up on that, and the amino acid protocol, these will help you.

Remember how you are feeling right now.

Cut off your supply of pills, buck it up for a few days and then work some type of after care.

This cleaning up stuff stinks, you can do it, there are plenty of folks here to help you through this!!
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917815 tn?1377498254
r u taking the 5mg or 10mg pills?
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401095 tn?1351391770
might be best to cut it off now whil u r enthusiastic..I told my dealer that i lost my job..worked!  LOL   i am not sure of ur circumstance and how or if u can cut off ur supply..i did..and it helps.u really do not need easy access right now..u hav com too far..and tomorrow is day 5!  for most/including me//the majic nmber for feeling so much better..aftercare..dont forget aftercare so u do not have to do this again..keep postin
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Well....YES!! I would love to cut off my next supply. I hope I can!! I am going to try to cut down day by day. But I am scared for when I have no more, that I will get those feelings in my body and won't be able to sleep. Does anyone know what that is (It almost feels like when your hand falls asleep) but it's my whole body. Is there anything to stop that feeling??? Also!! How long will I go through the w/d??? I am also hoping that.....with all the support from you all, that it will help. I feel good about this already:) Thanks again!!!
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401095 tn?1351391770
u r at a turning point it seems...do u have a dr who can give u some meds to sleep and such?   can u cut off this supply coming up?  if u can then do so....at this point u r draining urself of everything u love and the pills arnt helping u anymore//they probably never did but now it probably apparent to u the damage they r doing to ur life..let them go..it may uncomfortable like mentioned but in the long run u will be so proud..dont be ashamed..it happens to the beast of us...when the quitting part comes is when u know what u r made of and u can do this...keep posting cos theres lots of people here who r in or were in ur shoes//u r not alone...this doesnt get better without some work on ur part...but u can do this...make a plan and keep us posted..let them go
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I CAN'T TELL YOU ALL HOW HAPPY I AM RIGHT NOW....HAVING PEOPLE TO TALK TO ABOUT THIS. AS I HAVE HAD  NOBODY!! I FELT SOOOO ALONE....AND NOW I DON'T. I AM CRYING SO MUCH RIGHT NOW.....AND HOPE THAT WITH ALL YOUR ADVICE, I CAN DO THIS. THANK'S TO ALL OF YOU!! GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
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I don't know how I have kept this from my husband as well. But all I know is if he knew....we would be OVER. For him to find out where all our money has went!! Anyhow....I can't tell you how HAPPY I am right now, just to be able to TALK to someone about this. I am crying so much right now....that I am having a hard time typing this. I hate my life, and what I have done to my family:( But I do want OFF....and I am glad I ahve found this site. I have NOT tried anything to get off. I have and can get down to taking 7 pills, 3 times a day. But can't seem to take less!! I think I can take less....but I am scared that when I go to bed, I will get that feeling again. Because I tried to go down to 2 a day....and that's when I can't sleep. I believe I CAN get off of these. Because I really want to. The times that I tried to....I didn't care for them. I was doing fine....until I had to go to bed. That's the part I can't take. I have 80 pills left, and can't get anymore for 20 days. I AM SO SCARED THAT I AM GOING TO BUY MORE....WHEN I AM OUT OF THEM. I have to STOP buying them.....because WE have NO MORE money left.
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Please go to a dr. if you have health insurance and tell him that you want to get off the pills.  Tell him that you need Clonidine and a few tranzene to help you.  Clonidine will help with the w/d and keep you " in your skin" during the first 3-4 days.  It is a blood pressure med that really does help.  The tranzene will help with your nerves.   If this is not possible,  then tapper down with the percs and jump off when you get to one a day.  It is low enough to barely keep you from withdrawl, one every 12 hrs.  This is a challenge but then you will see that you CAN do that.  Please, do it for your family but most of all do it for YOURSELF.  There is life after all this and just think of how many of us on here can feel for you in their hearts like I do.   We will be here for you, and we have been where you are,  with the broken hearts.  This is Doable,  and you can do this.!

Hugs
Ella
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917008 tn?1251223979
Oh. Of course, if you can have someone dole them out, as worried878 suggests, get going on that. Find something to help you sleep. There are lots of stories for the doctor if you need a few, and you don't want him/her in on it ... a doctor mighn't want to risk the combination, but if you've been taking as much as you state, you might be okay with a low dose of Valium or something.

Really, I think you should try tapering first, but if the sleeplessness continues, you're gonna have to tell your story to a doc.

Good luck and get back to us.
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